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Droid Incredible- root and then unroot?

Hello-
Again, big thanks for the work done by unrevoked team. Awesome.
My phone is arriving today, and I'd like to root. However, I'd also like the ability to return the phone to factory spec in case of an emergency. Is that possible via the unrevoked3 tool? If not, where can I find a factory Droid Incredible ROM or recovery image to flash?
Lastly, are there any changes to the wifi tether methods with one click root vs previous methods?
Thanks!

please search for unroot, there are videos out there for this as well.

Not really- nothing addresses the new unrevoked3 tool. Don't leave an answer unless you bring something new to the table- I've done my basic homework.
EDIT: Can't post links yet, but there is a post called "[HOW 2] Downgrade software version (before OTA)" which has instructions on using the HTC Radio Update Utility. Can anyone confirm if this works with unrevoked3? outsid0r - is this the same method you are referring to?

yes thats the method and i have done it so i can confirm it does work

outsid0r said:
yes thats the method and i have done it so i can confirm it does work
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Thanks! That was very helpful, I appreciate it. The mods can mark this thread as closed, I think. I suppose I'll now be comfortable with rooting the phone!

rooting is quite easy, but and FYI for right now, using windows can get a communication error which is under investigation by the unrevoked team

So, could someone help me with rooting??

I've had my Evo for about 3 weeks now and am now wanting to root now that I see cyanogenmod is coming to Evo. I've rooted my Nexus and G1 with no problems but it seems the Evo is more difficult, what is the easiest way to root my Evo? And would someone be willing to help me with rooting it via IM or something similar?

There are tons of threads in the android development forum to show you how. Not to mention there was a one click root at some point if I am not mistaken, although I have no idea if it still works.

dougdascenzo said:
There are tons of threads in the android development forum to show you how. Not to mention there was a one click root at some point if I am not mistaken, although I have no idea if it still works.
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Yea, I've seen all of them and they all seem tedious compared to Nexus rooting. Which is the best method to go about rooting? I want to use Amon RA recovery if that helps. I'd really appreciate if someone could help me too.

Can anyone help?

Simple Root is 3 clicks & you're rooted & nand unlocked. Running win7 x64 & worked great for me.

I was reading up on it, do I need to uninstall HTC sync and the HTC drivers to get it to work??

I believe for unrevoked you need to remove those items ( the last time i checked at v2 ).
Versus Simple Root... I believe those are all required to get it to work.

What Version is your phone it would be much easier to know
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Its 1.47.651.1 I'm going to try the 1 simple root method, but just have one question, am I supposed to have it on charge only or disk drive?

Charge-only

Awe crap, I forgot to put flash recovery, was I supposed to do that first or can I do that after step 1 or something???

Ok, so I got to part 4 and it just says starting part 2, thats it, it doesn't do anything more. Did I do something wrong, or....? Please help.

So could someone please help me???????

What method are u using? Try unrevoked 3, its very simple
*This was posted from my Evo 4G*

I had to do this after the using simple root method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915

Thanks for replying guys, but I got it to work finally late last night. Anyways, I can't get wireless tether to work. It keeps force closing. I know I have root and everything because I was able to make a nand backup and I flashed Damagecontrol.

Unrevoked 3 NAND unlock?

Hello, I am new to this but successfully used unrevoked 3.1 on my evo. From there I installed two roms under clockwork recovery from zip files on my sd card, one worked, the other did not. What I am confused about is that they say unrevoked does not allow NAND write to /system, but yet I was able to flash a custom rom? i thought i had to be nand unlocked to flash a custom rom? Thanks !

should I post this to a different part of the forum or...

If you have a "Question" to which you would like an "Answer" then the "Q&A" section will suffice.
Regarding your question, my answer is to use the "Search" button or read the threads first. - You won't believe how much information I've learned just by reading through a thread with a couple hundreds pages of "good" feedback on root, roms, and what type of root methods to stay away from.

My question wasnt really a general question and is about development so I thought it would be appropriate here. I have read this forum since 07 and this was the only question I wasn't able to find anywhere. No one has spelled out exactly why some roms need nand unlock and others don't as far as I have seen.

I've noticed this too. I'm using baked snack with no issues but can't run damage control.
sent from my htc evo

Certain ROMs will require you to have NAND unlocked others not, this isnt a development question though its a general question about how to root the phone.

What is the difference though ? As in why if one rom can work nand locked why would another not be able to work? I'm trying to understand whats happening here.

more importantly, does anyone know how to nand unlock? Simple root doesn't work on my system after unrevoked..

prophetx2 said:
more importantly, does anyone know how to nand unlock? Simple root doesn't work on my system after unrevoked..
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If i was you i would go back to stock RUU and try Toast root method 1 and 2 for the full root, or if you got the 1.47.651.1 the the SimpleRoot.
And i believe the difference between ROM that need or does not need Nand unlock is that some roms writes in nand and other doesn't.

I've been trying to figure this out as well as I have 1.47.651.1, rooted with unrevoked 3.1, and have been trying to unlock nand with no luck. I'm on a mac so simpleroot won't work for me (even tried it on my work PC, but something is messed up with the /net framework, installed 4, but simpleroot says it can't find it), and when I try toast's method I get "permission denied" errors when trying to use the adb system. So I'm kinda stuck on what to do right now....
Scratch that, found my problem.. Forgot to startup superuser access...

I also rooted with unrevoked 3 and want to get the nand unlocked.
Did you get it to work on your Mac or the PC? I'll continue to search around in the meantime and see what the best method is... I'd rather do it on my Mac, but I can find a PC if I must.
thanks.

http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Scroll down to install instructions, download the forever zip and then flash in recovery, and you'll be all set.

help unlocking NAND after using unrevoked

I'm a noob at Android hacking and wanted to root my evo After a few questions to one of my friends, he pointed me towards unrevoked3. Now am stuckand don't now how to unlock the NAND and its driving me crazy. I want to be able to use roms such as damage control. Please help. Im compleatly lost.

I would ask your friend, don't think many here use unrevoked, we used the complete method from toast.
Also read through the posts in the Dev wiki.

I just rooted and unlocked last night...had a few issues. Should be around most of the evening. Where are you and what did you do?
Last night I used that unrEVOked3.1 software and then moved on to unlocking. You will need to ADB installed to do it the way I did it. This is a component of the Andoroid SDK. (You can find that from the google android site.) It is complicated and I got through it because I am old enough to have actually worked in DOS back when there were dinosaurs.
It's not impossible, there are instructions out there...but it will take effort. Hate to point you away from xda...'cause LOTs of good work here...but I followed the unlockr.com tutorial for unlocking nand.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/07/20/how-to-unlock-nand-on-the-htc-evo-4g/
There were a couple issues where su couldn't find the sdcard. I even did lists and saw it, but the commands failed at start. Took a mix of unplugging usb and replugging and mounting and just charging....not sure what fixed it...LOL. But I got the commands to run eventually.

dude741 said:
I'm a noob at Android hacking and wanted to root my evo After a few questions to one of my friends, he pointed me towards unrevoked3. Now am stuckand don't now how to unlock the NAND and its driving me crazy. I want to be able to use roms such as damage control. Please help. Im compleatly lost.
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toast's part 2 FTW

ok i got the evo in dec. and had it rooted using unrevoked3 i just got in to flashing roms using rom manger easy but i want to try cm7 and i dont think i can use rom manger for that one if iam wrong let me know and i just started learning about nand seems like a big headache i looked at the unlockr still just not sure about it i dont want to brick my phone if anyone has any advice help me out

ric87 said:
ok i got the evo in dec. and had it rooted using unrevoked3 i just got in to flashing roms using rom manger easy but i want to try cm7 and i dont think i can use rom manger for that one if iam wrong let me know and i just started learning about nand seems like a big headache i looked at the unlockr still just not sure about it i dont want to brick my phone if anyone has any advice help me out
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You can use Rom Manager app to install CM7. In fact Rom Manager is included in CM7 Rom. Honestly I think Rom Manager was made mostly for CM Roms. Make sure you wipe data, cache and davlik before going to CM from another Rom. I never flash through Rom Manager app and always flash manually from recovery, but a lot of people do flash through Rom Manager. Good Luck.
Also just to clarify(someone correct me if I'm wrong),
I think if you used the unrevoked3 app from this thread Unrevoked to root your EVO that it also nand unlocks it too. The thread doesn't state it, but the app has been updated to work with the latest hboot, so it should work on all Evo's right now. I could be wrong, but I have used the latest Unrevoked to root all of the Evo's that I have rooted and have never had any problems with backups, restores and flashing Rom's.

and i got titanium back up for my apps but not sure how to use it i got idea of hot to use it and how can tell if my nand is unlocked or not

ric87 said:
and i got titanium back up for my apps but not sure how to use it i got idea of hot to use it and how can tell if my nand is unlocked or not
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power off your phone then go into bootloader using power+vol. down..if you see s-off at the top the youre unlocked

If you are s-off, but still having problems with some root apps, you need to install busybox. You can do this from the "problems?" button in the bottom right of the overview screen in Titanium Backup. Then choose "get busybox".
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HELP
ok so i got gb by deck but he say's in the thread that you have to flash a kernal iam not sure if the rom come's with one if it doesn't anyone have any suggestions that would go good with the rom battery is a big thing for me i dont like having to carry my chager around with me every where i go i would've posted this on the page with the rom but xda saying that i haven't posted enough to post anything there yet and yall have been really helpfull with my ignorance and i did find out that my nand was already unlocked thinks to yall
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078558
thats the ulr i copied from my adderss bar for the rom someone help

[Q] {Q} ClockworkMod

now im coming from many other android related phones but what i remember most that may help....ima test this but i remember ClockworkMod Recovery being used for MT3GS.......we go into our stock recovery; click update.zip (which was the clockwork recovery) and it would boot up a recovery mode that way; has anyone attempted this?
....Just a thought towards root or atleast custom recovery

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now im coming from many other android related phones but what i remember most that may help....ima test this but i remember ClockworkMod Recovery being used for MT3GS.......we go into our stock recovery; click update.zip (which was the clockwork recovery) and it would boot up a recovery mode that way; has anyone attempted this?
....Just a thought towards root or atleast custom recovery
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The way I understand is the locked or bug in NAND will not allow for a recover. It removes all SU permissions on reboot.

Big Dawg 23 said:
The way I understand is the locked or bug in NAND will not allow for a recover. It removes all SU permissions on reboot.
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i feel as if if we can get into fastboot and do modifications that way (thanks Modaco) why cant we go even further to be that a means of rooting; with appropriate scripts? why is it people are like *sigh* i have no root but i have temp root.......nand locked but i can do **** with android actually open; what if there was a way to initiate visionary on run.....before actual loading the os like the steps as
power on > visionary/turn into custom recov or custom boot like magldr is supposed to be> os?

This thread can't be serious.
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unforgiven512 said:
This thread can't be serious.
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so it cant be serious because i have an idea? that can help speed up the development for your phone? thanks guy

s0xpan said:
i feel as if if we can get into fastboot and do modifications that way (thanks Modaco) why cant we go even further to be that a means of rooting; with appropriate scripts? why is it people are like *sigh* i have no root but i have temp root.......nand locked but i can do **** with android actually open; what if there was a way to initiate visionary on run.....before actual loading the os like the steps as
power on > visionary/turn into custom recov or custom boot like magldr is supposed to be> os?
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Have you contributed anything to the G2 root effort? Some of the best Android hackers are working to root this phone; in fact many of the same ones who came up with the method you posted in your first post.

im actually attempting but with any type of movement requires a brainstorming; so i was literally brainstorming outloud......i cant help if my ideas have been thought of you kno

There's a thinktank thread, it was posted there, it won't work.
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Not trying to be rude, but present some facts. Try it out. Show us the code. Explain your findings. And present your idea in a clean, intelligent, organized manner. That means capital letters. That means punctuation. That means use the space bar.
I agree with, I'd say, ~90% of the other users here. All the useless crap in this forum is doing absolutely nothing towards getting actual development accomplished.
Mods: Please lock and/or delete this thread. Also, I apologize for wasting an entry in the SQL database. =P
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well i have an idea; ima pursue it the clockwork mod has been proven to not work so ima attempt ; ima get this working even though i dont have contact with too many devs working on this phone

s0xpan said:
well i have an idea; ima pursue it the clockwork mod has been proven to not work so ima attempt ; ima get this working even though i dont have contact with too many devs working on this phone
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Haha good luck. People keep posting about what should be done yet have no idea what actually goes on to do any of this stuff. It isn't as simple as "making" it, you have to know HOW to make it. Please go to the think tank thread.

thinktank thread is good but the WIKI is even better. I just wish it was updated more often -- but anyway this thing has everything short of #g2root irc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Intro
READ THIS REALLY F*CKING CAREFULLY --- it is great reading. If you have ideas after reading it (i said read it dont glance it dont masturbate on it just read it as if it was your last will and testament) and then speak up.

Look not to rain on ur parade buddy but in order to do that on the mts you first had to install the enginering img to the phone that allows unsigned packages. Now since we have a copy of the eng img for the g2 (we as in the devs not me) and the phone will not let you downgrade to it so therefore the mts way of loading a custom recovery won't work. I traded in my mts to get my g2.

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thinktank thread is good but the WIKI is even better. I just wish it was updated more often -- but anyway this thing has everything short of #g2root irc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Intro
READ THIS REALLY F*CKING CAREFULLY --- it is great reading. If you have ideas after reading it (i said read it dont glance it dont masturbate on it just read it as if it was your last will and testament) and then speak up.
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Wow, I didn't even know this existed. Thanks mate!
As for OP, post this in the thinktank thread. Why did you bother making your own thread? You only had an idea, which is what the other thread is for. If you had tried it out and had success, then it may be a different story.

Don't post stuff here unless you get permission