Ive read through dozens of threads asking this very question. Is there anyway to avoid having all of your internal memory sucked up by the great unknown? Im running defrost with all my apps installed on the microSD card.
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Don't think this is possible because some application data is partially stored in the phone in /data/data/* too. Nothing moves /data/data to SD card, because this would result in instability and generally poor performance. You could move the app and dalvik-cache to SD with less trouble, but /data/data is buggy, so that stays on the phone.
Download Cache cleaner like CacheCleaner or CacheMate from the Marketplace, this will free up some space for you.
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Thanks for the tip!
Freed up about 4 MBs. Hmm... Maybe I've adopted Android a wee bit too soon. Figured they'd have something as fundamental as this solved by now.
Xephrey said:
Freed up about 4 MBs. Hmm... Maybe I've adopted Android a wee bit too soon. Figured they'd have something as fundamental as this solved by now.
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It is a common misconception that this is somehow Androids "fault".
Quite simply - it isn't. It is the hardware manufacturers who are not building enough physical storage into the device. There's absolutely no reason, other than cost, why someone couldn't build a phone with more memory available for apps etc - in fact, the Dell Streak has 2gb space for apps which is likely to be more than enough.
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Good point. I was too quick to stack all the blame on Android. What would be SUPER cool is a phone with dual MicroSD slots. That way, one could be dedicated to apps and one to mounting, unmounting / whatever.
Can we repartition the mtd like the g1 users can?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7061471#post7061471
cause i think for those who are not using sense ui, there is a lot of space unused on the system partition that can be transfered to data partition for our apps.
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Is there a way to partition the SD card in such a way that the EVO can access it for RAM? Running some of the newer sense 2.1 and 3.0 roms my RAM tends to dip down as low as almost 50MB free, and I'm constantly having to kill tasks to free up more. Any ideas?
Not really. RAM and storage are different things. Granted, there is the concept of a swap file, but I don't think that's something people generally see as very useful in Android. See this article:
http://zerocredibility.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/why-android-swap-doesnt-make-sense/
Eh I didn't think so.... I've even noticed on the EVO 3D that it's a process hog too. Oh well. Thanks for the reply.
Hi,
I wonder where is the truth about moving apps to SD card. I have HTC Desire which has really low space for apps. I used to use Darktremor A2SD script with CM7 but according to some users this can really slow down my phone while opening apps when I have slow SD card (I have 4class Kingston) and it probably does, becuase I experienced this issue very often. It was horrible and I decided to use different partition table. Now I have dalvik cache on internal storage.
Today I read that the more space I have on my internal storage, the faster the device is. The question is: Is this true? And is true that apps moved to SD (not using A2SD script) are slower?
On a very slow (cheap class 2) it can be true.
I have class 6 and not noticed slowdowns.
Theoretically - the internal NAND is faster than the SD Card, but if the ROM is set up correctly, it is unnoticeable.
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On a very slow (cheap class 2) it can be true.
I have class 6 and not noticed slowdowns.
Theoretically - the internal NAND is faster than the SD Card, but if the ROM is set up correctly, it is unnoticeable.
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So where is the problem? When I used A2SD script I experienct heavy lags while opening apps (Handcent, gallery, etc.) sometimes 2-5 seconds. It was really bothering. Full wipe helped everytime but after two days lags were back.
Now I am trying have dalvik on internal to see how it behaves.
I believe that class4 is not so slow and I also read that Kingston cards are sometimes much faster in tests, sometimes similar to other class6 SDs.
AFAIK, it depends on the ROM, too. For example I had no lags with AOSP ROMs, just Sense ones.
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AFAIK, it depends on the ROM, too. For example I had no lags with AOSP ROMs, just Sense ones.
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Ok. And do you think that the more free space on internal I have the more speed I can get while using the apps?
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Ok. And do you think that the more free space on internal I have the more speed I can get while using the apps?
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You might. Again i Think it is affected by many factors. For instance, when I was using Gingervillain 2.7 the phone was fast even with 20 MB left on internal - then I moved internal & stuff to the SD and had around 96 MB free - but did not notice that it was running faster.
Try using s2e app from market, I'm using that and it works very well
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I keep seeing everybody talking about having an sd-ext partition and how much better it
makes the phone run. Is it possible with a g2, and if so, how do you do it?
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http://forums.virtuousrom.com/index.php/topic,58.0.html
If you're running a Sense 3.0+ port I can see the need for swap but for AOSP based ROMs there's no need. We have plenty of RAM. It can actually induce lag and slow things down using it. Use compcache if you really need the extra RAM - of course it will slow things down a bit too but shouldn't be as bad.
As far as using an EXT partition, yet again you don't need it. These things were/are useful for older phones and lower end phones with limited memory and RAM. Unless you just download every app in the market you see, you should have plenty of space on your phone for all your apps. There's no performance gain by putting the apps on your sdcard in an EXT partition.
Okay, I have Link2Sd installed on my device, I have almost one gigabyte of apps in it. I was just wondering, that can it be the problem, cause my Arc S' performance has became pretty awkward(gaming performance is ok, but scrolling it the menus and so on). Anyone else having Link2Sd and having the same problem? I really wouldn't like to uninstall this app, because it does wonders!
What class is your SD card?
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Okay, I have Link2Sd installed on my device, I have almost one gigabyte of apps in it. I was just wondering, that can it be the problem, cause my Arc S' performance has became pretty awkward(gaming performance is ok, but scrolling it the menus and so on). Anyone else having Link2Sd and having the same problem? I really wouldn't like to uninstall this app, because it does wonders!
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No it does not affect performance.
Bear in mind that apps that are moved to SD (whether it is with Android's native method or Link2SD) do not suffer from performance decrease depending on the class of your SD. Apps do not run from the apk, it's not like Windows that apps run from the corresponding exe file.
Yeah, good point. Of course the apps theirselves are installed in the internal memory. Didn't come in my mind Looks like I have to find another causeto my problem
Use a file cleaner to clean the cache/ history
Try using links2sd to clean the dalvic cache.
Hope this helps
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Link2SD Plus version
I am using the latest version of Link2SD plus, which basically allows linking of all application files (apk, dex, lib, cache and data) to the second partition (ext2/3). Obviously this is a huge space saving benefit with the extremely limited internal memory of the Xperia Arc S.
Unfortunately, apps like Chrome, Skype and TuneIn radio (which require around 100MB each) have serious performance issues in this case; they become completely unresponsive and impossible to use.
I've experimented only moving certain types of the application files and noticed that this is most possibly caused by the cache files being linked to the sd card. By un-linking the cache files the apps become usable once again, but that takes quite a lot of space obviously. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Is there another solution?
I use link2sd on my arc s and i installed over 20 apps, it's fast.
I use link2sd on my arc s and i installed over 20 apps, it's fast.
I, too, must be another problem
Hello @ArmorD,
Link2SD performance relies on your external storage mediums read and write speeds; in this case your MicroSD cards speeds.
The MicroSD card which came with Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc is just a slow Class 4 card, with terrible read and write speeds.
To get better performance you have to replace the MicroSD card with something a bit faster; any class 10 card would do the job. I would recommend Samsung, Kingston or Sandisk MicroSD cards, they're all great.
Keelah se'lai,
GethPrime
Get a faster card
Get a faster sd card, preferrably class 10, they are cheap, been using link2sd forever n even now with kitkat, still fast
I have an 80mbps micro in my axiom and I am running link2sd flawlessly best buy has sales all the time I picked one up for like thirty bucks worth the speed.
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After closing out 29 apps with ram manager, im yielding 1.05gb out of 1.78gb total,
Im literally watching the 1.05 fluctuate to 1.06 1.10 .1.12 back to 1.05
This phone I mean is it that much more packed with system apps/data vs where I remember every other s3 and note 2 I owned had like 650-750mb used out of a total 1.78 available even after closing all apps and clearing ram.
And that was even with BLOATWARE.
I bring this up cause im getting a Low Memory notification out of nowhere?!
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After closing out 29 apps with ram manager, im yielding 1.05gb out of 1.78gb total,
Im literally watching the 1.05 fluctuate to 1.06 1.10 .1.12 back to 1.05
This phone I mean is it that much more packed with system apps/data vs where I remember every other s3 and note 2 I owned had like 650-750mb used out of a total 1.78 available even after closing all apps and clearing ram.
And that was even with BLOATWARE.
I bring this up cause im getting a Low Memory notification out of nowhere?!
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low memory as in RAM or low memory as in storage.
if its storage im having the same problem.
If its RAM, use something like rom toolboxes task manager to see whats running. im only using between 700-800 mb of ram, without clearing it
first off... android was designed to use Memory in much the same way linux does, (memory that isnt being used is wasted memory). Task killers actually cause more harm then good... they send a SIGKILL instead of SIGTERM. Its along the same lines as shutting your computer down every day vs just yanking the power cord out...
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
http://thelinuxnewbie.blogspot.com/2006/08/linux-uses-too-much-memory-very-basic.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=175419
My only guess in regards to the warning would be a malicious [side-loaded] app trying to run an exploit... or killing running processes constantly has caused a memory leak somewhere via corrupted database/config file... or there is a bug somewhere if you are running a custom rom.
Just let the system handle your memory... it was designed [from the ground up] to be incredibly good at this.
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After closing out 29 apps with ram manager, im yielding 1.05gb out of 1.78gb total,
Im literally watching the 1.05 fluctuate to 1.06 1.10 .1.12 back to 1.05
This phone I mean is it that much more packed with system apps/data vs where I remember every other s3 and note 2 I owned had like 650-750mb used out of a total 1.78 available even after closing all apps and clearing ram.
And that was even with BLOATWARE.
I bring this up cause im getting a Low Memory notification out of nowhere?!
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Low memory has nothing to do with how large or small the rom is or how many apps you have in the system/app folder.
Think of memory like this, a computer can have as little as 2GB of memory modules, but people want faster
computers with a lot more RAM in the memory modules which plug into the computers motherboards.
That's why a lot of people have 8 or even 16GB of memory inside their computers to make them faster.
When your talking about how many apps there are, or how large or how many megabytes a rom takes
up in space you are not thinking of it in the proper terms, think of it as "hard drive space".
If you get a larger hard drive you will have more free space for applications, games, music, videos & a lot of other things.
Bloatware also takes up space on the sdcards just like it would on a hard drive, but none of these things use any more or
less of the available memory in your phone. (RAM)
None of these things have anything to do with your low memory notifications, there is a notification in the phone
which notifies you if your low on space on your internal and external sdcards (they are like solid state hard drives).
If you are getting low memory notifications from no where, it must be some rogue apps or
app that you installed which is misbehaving and or is not 100% compatible with your phone.
I found out Why I had lowmem
Went to file manager and checked storage space...
My twrp backups were taking up 5.86gigs of internal ya Thats a Crap ton of spce to use up on nandroids ...I think its cause all my backups had backed up /system
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For future reference (after hearing your fix/reply)... you were running out of storage space (where user accessible data goes), not memory (RAM).
if you keep calling the storage space memory, your gonna keep confusing the hell out of everyone.