lens cover damage - Desire General

The see-through (plastic?) lens cover appears to have a thin layer on it, a layer that comes off easily? i can remove it with my finger nail with repeated rubbing so it can't be an anti scratch layer
It's not really like scratches it looks more like it's just being rubbed off and the surface below looks not as shiny.
Do others have this or have had this?
Anyway on mine this layer is mostly off in the middle, bit of a pisser it probably effects the photo quality..

yes, this happened to me. I got a scratch on the lens cover and the "coating" started to rub off around the scratch then. Once it's broken it will all eventually chip or rub off. I was left with a dull not so transparent lens cover. crap photos.
I got a new back cover for 30euro! (argh!!). Now I do not rub my lens and am very careful. The initial scratch was caused by a tiny piece of salt or sand on the lens when I rubbed it clean with a microfibre cloth. Once it was scratched the protective film just flaked off really easy when I rubbed it even lightly.
Get a new back cover and be very careful when rubbing the lens cover in future. In fact DON'T rub it is best. If you do get a finger print on it very very lightly use a microfibre cloth to remove it. no hard rubbing.

bummer.. i'll just leave mine i think, maybe some one will bring out a better version, or i could maybe maybe stick a plane glass disc in.

yeah, it sucks doesn't it! I would not mind paying an extra 20euro for a desire if HTC would coat the lens cover with mineral glass or something so its much less likely to scuff. plastic with a coating is useless.
anyway, good luck if you replace it with a glass disc, that would be cool too. I splashed out for the battery cover, but it was expensive and wouldn't do it again if it happens.
Thats why I loved my Nokia N82. It had an actual lens cover that kept out dust, fingerprints, grit etc.
well, HTCs next big handset release will only be improved I imagine.

Same here
I've had the same problem, bad engineering on HTC's part in my opinion as the lens(cover) is a very much exposed part of this particular phone because of its 'bulgy' design. Never had this kind of problem on my Cybershotphones.
Too bad though as I'm otherwise very happy with my Desire (although it would have been nice if the screen were a bit less prone to scratching, gief Gorillaglass).
I ended up rubbing the lenscover until the entire coating was actually rubbed off in the hope pictures would be less blurry because of the partly chipped off coating.
Anyone know what the coating is for in the first place?

if this happens to mine I will drill the clear lens out

jamesmcuk said:
if this happens to mine I will drill the clear lens out
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I think you can just bash it out - there's a post on the forum somewhere about it

Related

How or what are you all using to clean the edges of the screen?

I've just removed my screen protector and phone cover and there's a bunch of crud around the edges of the screen. I'm afraid to slide anything under the frame for fear of damagning something. How are you all cleaning yours?
cotton buds
I use cotten buds and Razzle Dazzle spray used to clean your specs, glasses
does a great job
comes up like new
hope that helps
i just cleaned mine when i had it apart put a new screen protector on afterwards
I use the thin plastic toothpicks that have a 45 degree on one side. They're bendable and flex with slightest resistance. Great for cleaning between screen and case. There is a pretty big gap between the screen and faceplate so alot of debris can get trapped in there. As long as the spongy black insulation foam is in good shape I dont see putting anything in edges to be a harmful to it.

Desire lens cover badly scratched

I like to think that I look after my handset and indeed the screen and casing are untouched. But look in bright light at the lens cover in the back cover and it has numerous very light scratches.
It must be a very soft plastic. Will it effect quality and can it be replaced?
Thanks
Remove the back cover and compare picture quality. You can see there is a massive difference. I'm having yellow tint in every pic.
Any back covers on the market with better lens cover?
Get a new back cover and cover the lens part with screen protector, thats what I recommend
That wont necisarily help, since some users have reported that the non scratch coating on the inside of the window also becomes scratched over time on some phones.
I'm going to bite the bullet soon & try the method suggested here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764673
Worst I can do is knack my lens & if so, just buy a replacement cover. First ever time I've had anything like this on any of my phones & again, I do take care of it with screen protector & softcase...
Clean it with Displex - I had the same issue and it really worked - And Displex is only a few euros... Alternatively Brasso should also work, however I have not tested this.
I had the same issue. I think there is some layer over the plastic. I rubbed the cover with a oakley pouch for a couple minutes and the layer faded away revealing shiny plastic. I knew mine could not be really scratched. It's been fine ever since.
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Displex. Found half a tube that must be nearly 10 years old - used on a beloved Sony Ericsson T68i (first colour screen). And seems to have a worked on my Desire. Just to can't understand why it got scratched in the first place as it is slightly recessed.
Must be very soft plastic which is a disappointing economy.
Nutsonfire said:
I had the same issue. I think there is some layer over the plastic. I rubbed the cover with a oakley pouch for a couple minutes and the layer faded away revealing shiny plastic. I knew mine could not be really scratched. It's been fine ever since.
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I did the same thing. Seems like some thin layer is what gets scratched. You can remove it gently with nail (or tooth, like i did LOL)...
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[Review] Crystal Armor Ultra Thin 0.2mm Tempered Glass Protector & ASF Removal

The Product
Product Page
CRYSTAL ARMOR Ultra Thin Full Flat Tempered Glass Protector. Claimed to be the worlds thinnest; so thin, in fact, that they claim that a sensor hole cutout is necessary. Of course, it comes at a price. And that is a wallet gouging ¥5,000. Although on the product page they say that the shipping is included, they still said they had to charge me another ¥250. So I ended up paying ¥5,250 for a single sheet of glass...
They seem to have made the shipping free so it is "only" ¥5,000 now which makes me feel ripped off.
UPDATE: It's actually a promotion apparently for this month as their nice rep informed me.
The customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not
First Look
It came in a huge box (for a screen protector anyway) with a ton of bubble wrap.
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You think I'm kidding?
I tentatively open the package to reveal...
Nothing but the screen protector.
It's packaged nicely and all, but I can't help but feel a bit let down to find nothing else included in a ¥5,000 product. There is only film over the adhesive side of the protector too
Its thinness is something else though. This still has the protective film on.
A quick mockup shows the fitment to be spot on
Anti Shatter Film Removal
I found the corner to be the easiest to lift.
It's just peeling from now on.
Goodbye Sony logo.
Ahhhh, real glass!
I first thought I used too much WD-40 to clean the glass, but it turns out that even nail polish remover wasn't enough. After multiple passes with optical cleaning towel and nail polish remover, the screen only looks clean. A quick wipe with a cheap microfiber towel reveals tons of lint stuck onto the glass, and the glass feels slightly sticky to the touch, especially at the edges. Running water over the glass shows spots at the corners where the residue still remains, as the water flows around the spots.
After more rubbing with nail polish remover the spots seem to have mostly disappeared, but the screen still feels slightly sticky. Maybe the residue will wear off after a week of usage, but so far I have to recommend prospective ASF removers to put a screen protector over the bare glass.
I've given up for now. I'll just install the protector right over without worrying about the residue since it's not visible anyways. I just washed the towels and letting them to dry, and I'll get the protector installed in my washroom after my shower tonight to be as safe as possible. It is an expensive single usage protector after all.
On a side note, if you do this to your dock you'll be able to use it even with a thick screen protector
The Big Mistake
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
As you can see, the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
The ASF Free Experience
Feels good to be touching actual glass :angel:
But because there is no coating on the glass, fingerprints and smudges build up very very quickly, and I had to clean it frequently. Because there's no coating on it there's a bit of friction against your fingertips. I'm sure that some Rain-X or some sort of glass sealant will make the screen a lot more smooth (friction wise, there's no texture on the glass obviously).
Now don't expect the display to magically improve without the ASF. It doesn't become more vibrant, bright, or have any better viewing angles.
But don't think that removing the ASF is pretty much pointless and is a stupid move. The ASF is a stupid move. Unless you slap a screen protector over the ASF as soon as you get the phone, you are going to get scratches because the ASF is so soft. So I got fed up with the marks and decided to just remove it. Now you have glass that is actually hard. Some people are just anti-protector and that's perfectly fine. The Dragontrail glass is tough and it's not gonna get scratched that easily. I think running the bare glass with some sort of sealant, oleophobic coating , or a mix you'll have a nice feeling anti-fingerprint glass. Just reapply when the coating wears off.
Round 2
They included a microfiber cloth this time (I wonder if they read my review )
The tab for peeling off the protective film is also a lot easier to peel off this time.
I couldn't use the hinge method to install this protector because the duct tape just won't stick. Not sure if it's a good thing because the coating is strong or if it's a bad thing because I misaligned thanks to not having a hinge.
Also trapped a spec of fiber, which ironically is probably from the microfiber cloth they provided... Luckily it's so small that I can only find it with my face about 8cm from the screen.
Having this protector on is also definitely visible, due to the rounded corners
Also leaks a bit of light at the side like the edge of a lit acrylic panel (reference)
The coating is indeed very smooth in case I haven't mentioned it enough. My fingers glide on it with pretty much no friction, and because the screen is now raised a bit I don't feel the ridge at the end of the screen anymore. And because it's so smooth you don't have to use much force on the screen so it leaves even less marks. All the pictures I've taken are after 1 day of use and no cleaning at all. And I went snowboarding with it and it didn't crack so don't think its weak just because I goofed the first time.
My camera lens is 14-24mm which is useless for macro so here's a video for you guys
You can find it on their site
Short Term Experience
In the first week, it was oleophobic heaven. Super slick, almost completely fingerprint-proof. The few smudges come off extremely easily.
Towards the end of week 2 it has become less oleophobic. It's not extremely slick like new but it is still very good. Smudges and prints come off just from taking the phone out of the pocket.
End of week 3 had me a bit worried. Has the oleophobic coating worn off already? Fingerprints go on pretty easily and it is not very slick. Then I realized that in this entire time I have not once cleaned the screen with any cleaning solution, only wiping it down with a microfiber cloth.
So I did that and the slickness is back. It feels more like week 2... At least for a few days.
So now I clean the screen regularly and when the screen is clean it's much easier to wipe off fingerprints.
TO BE CONTINUED FOR LONG TERM RESULTS
Well thanks to xda rules I can't post any pictures....
And I have to wait 5 minutes between posts...
This is too much for me to take :crying:
Need the pictures. Or just upload it somewhere else, then put the link here. Thanks so much anyway.
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omegahanggara said:
Need the pictures. Or just upload it somewhere else, then put the link here. Thanks so much anyway.
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xda won't allow external links even to pictures until I get 10 posts, and I can only post once every 5 minutes.
Winrahr said:
xda won't allow external links even to pictures until I get 10 posts, and I can only post once every 5 minutes.
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ok, so lets keep chatting here untill you get 10 posts!
how was the placing of the screen protector? the nillkin has almost 2 millimiters gaps from the sides so it's quite easy to fit, but it doesn't cover the whole screen though... but still almost all of it, it looks good.
shteren said:
ok, so lets keep chatting here untill you get 10 posts!
how was the placing of the screen protector? the nillkin has almost 2 millimiters gaps from the sides so it's quite easy to fit, but it doesn't cover the whole screen though... but still almost all of it, it looks good.
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And we shall!
It seems to cover exactly the entire screen but I'll check more precisely when I put it on.
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
(pic)
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
(pic)
As you can see (well you can't because I only have 9 posts), the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
(pic)
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
Winrahr said:
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
(pic)
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
(pic)
As you can see (well you can't because I only have 9 posts), the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
(pic)
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
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It's too bad that you cracked you screen protector, I cheer for you haha.
Well at least if the ultra thin is working like you said, I don't have to fear anything with the 0.33mm one. Thanks! By the way, take time to post one more time and you're good to go with the pictures, show us your baby!
Will be waiting for teh pictures!
Really wanting to buy this, front and back, to replace my <1week old nillkin tempered.
curious
I hope you can post the pics.... so add this reply to the count.:victory:
Boop. 10th post.
OP will now be updated with pictures
I think the greatest weakness of the 0.2mm will be its... weakness. The thinness probably makes it more prone to cracking than the thicker protectors, but it is also probably more flexible, so who knows. It's definitely not super fragile though, I was just being stupid.
Also want to add that the customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not :good:
So while I wait for the second protector to come in, I'll be using the phone without an ASF and I'll do a writeup on that in a few days as well.
I still have the cracked protector so if anyone wants me to do some testing with it let me know
Winrahr said:
The Product
CRYSTAL ARMOR Ultra Thin Full Flat Tempered Glass Protector. Claimed to be the worlds thinnest; so thin, in fact, that they claim that a sensor hole cutout is necessary. Of course, it comes at a price. And that is a wallet gouging ¥5,000. Although on the product page they say that the shipping is included, they still said they had to charge me another ¥250. So I ended up paying ¥5,250 for a single sheet of glass...
They seem to have made the shipping free so it is "only" ¥5,000 now which makes me feel ripped off.
UPDATE: It's actually a promotion apparently for this month as their nice rep informed me.
The customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not
First Look
It came in a huge box (for a screen protector anyway) with a ton of bubble wrap.
You think I'm kidding?
I tentatively open the package to reveal...
Nothing but the screen protector.
It's packaged nicely and all, but I can't help but feel a bit let down to find nothing else included in a ¥5,000 product. There is only film over the adhesive side of the protector too
Its thinness is something else though. This still has the protective film on.
A quick mockup shows the fitment to be spot on
Anti Shatter Film Removal
I found the corner to be the easiest to lift.
It's just peeling from now on.
Goodbye Sony logo.
Ahhhh, real glass!
I first thought I used too much WD-40 to clean the glass, but it turns out that even nail polish remover wasn't enough. After multiple passes with optical cleaning towel and nail polish remover, the screen only looks clean. A quick wipe with a cheap microfiber towel reveals tons of lint stuck onto the glass, and the glass feels slightly sticky to the touch, especially at the edges. Running water over the glass shows spots at the corners where the residue still remains, as the water flows around the spots.
After more rubbing with nail polish remover the spots seem to have mostly disappeared, but the screen still feels slightly sticky. Maybe the residue will wear off after a week of usage, but so far I have to recommend prospective ASF removers to put a screen protector over the bare glass.
I've given up for now. I'll just install the protector right over without worrying about the residue since it's not visible anyways. I just washed the towels and letting them to dry, and I'll get the protector installed in my washroom after my shower tonight to be as safe as possible. It is an expensive single usage protector after all.
On a side note, if you do this to your dock you'll be able to use it even with a thick screen protector
The Big Mistake
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
As you can see, the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
TO BE CONTINUED
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sorry to see that buddy.... try nillkin next time it's smaller than the screen so it's very easy to fit, i did it without hinges, and it's also super slick, i sometimes have a hard time texting cos my fingers are sliding on the glass...
I don't see how a smaller screen protector makes it easier to fit, having to match the spacing on each side will definitely test the very limits of my patience, and I know I'll mess up and get reminded of my mistake every single time I use the phone.
Also can you please unquote the OP? That's a huge quote.
I have just received my front and back protector from Crystal Armour. For the front I got the 0,2mm version and for the back 0,33mm.
Later I will show you some photos.
I uploaded a comparison between Glass M and Crystal Armour, both 0,2mm thin, you can see there the difference in size of the protector.
I like that the CA haven't got a proximity sensor cut out, it is working without any issues.
And for the back protector I have to say, no flash cut out and no flash-light bleeding in photos.
masterv1 said:
I have just received my front and back protector from Crystal Armour. For the front I got the 0,2mm version and for the back 0,33mm.
Later I will show you some photos.
I uploaded a comparison between Glass M and Crystal Armour, both 0,2mm thin, you can see there the difference in size of the protector.
I like that the CA haven't got a proximity sensor cut out, it is working without any issues.
And for the back protector I have to say, no flash cut out and no flash-light bleeding in photos.
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Nice info. Any pictures of the back glass? I was contemplating getting it but I'm not sure if I even need glass on the back side.
Winrahr said:
Nice info. Any pictures of the back glass? I was contemplating getting it but I'm not sure if I even need glass on the back side.
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I like the feel of the back with the glass, because of rounded edges. Also less fingerprints and it's easy to remove them.
Before the glass I had a foil, I disliked it, because of scratches and fingerprints, it looked very cheap.
masterv1 said:
I like the feel of the back with the glass, because of rounded edges. Also less fingerprints and it's easy to remove them.
Before the glass I had a foil, I disliked it, because of scratches and fingerprints, it looked very cheap.
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Hmmm.. My main concern for the back is the fingerprints so maybe a good oleophobic coating on the glass after removing the ASF would be good... Or I could just get a cheap rear glass...
Speaking of the ASF, I've been using my bare screen for a while so I'll talk a little about it.
Feels good to be touching actual glass :angel:
But because there is no coating on the glass, fingerprints and smudges build up very very quickly, and I had to clean it frequently. Because there's no coating on it there's a bit of friction against your fingertips. I'm sure that some Rain-X or some sort of glass sealant will make the screen a lot more smooth (friction wise, there's no texture on the glass obviously).
Now don't expect the display to magically improve without the ASF. It doesn't become more vibrant, bright, or have any better viewing angles.
But don't think that removing the ASF is pretty much pointless and is a stupid move. The ASF is a stupid move. Unless you slap a screen protector over the ASF as soon as you get the phone, you are going to get scratches because the ASF is so soft. So I got fed up with the marks and decided to just remove it. Now you have glass that is actually hard. Some people are just anti-protector and that's perfectly fine. The Dragontrail glass is tough and it's not gonna get scratched that easily. I think running the bare glass with some sort of sealant, oleophobic coating , or a mix you'll have a nice feeling anti-fingerprint glass. Just reapply when the coating wears off.
shteren said:
sorry to see that buddy.... try nillkin next time it's smaller than the screen so it's very easy to fit, i did it without hinges, and it's also super slick, i sometimes have a hard time texting cos my fingers are sliding on the glass...
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I'm about to order one of these too since it's the only one that doesn't have those ugly cutouts.
Did you order them from this page: apeiros.stores.jp?
I tried ordering from Japanese Amazon but they wouldn't ship them outside of Japan unfortunately.
I'm thinking of getting the front & back set since their camera opening also looks pretty snug on the back. Slightly worried about the flash though.
Any new pictures?
Anon of Holland said:
I'm about to order one of these too since it's the only one that doesn't have those ugly cutouts.
Did you order them from this page: apeiros.stores.jp?
I tried ordering from Japanese Amazon but they wouldn't ship them outside of Japan unfortunately.
I'm thinking of getting the front & back set since their camera opening also looks pretty snug on the back. Slightly worried about the flash though.
Any new pictures?
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Yep you need to order from their page here which is specifically for out of Japan orders.
Then just put in your info like normal and don't worry about the state. You can repeat all the info in the comments field just in case.
I'm actually picking the new one up today and I'll have new pictures up soon. I didn't buy the back though.
There is actually no 0.2mm version set so you'll have to purchase the back glass separately here.

Protect the camera lens?

I'd gladly use my HTC 10 casesless if it meant the camera lens wasn't exposed to being scraped along surfaces as I place down/pick up the phone.
Is there anything, could be as simple as a shallow adhesive rubber ring, that will keep the lens from making contact with a surface when laid down, something simple? Open to suggestions from the hardware store, already considering a rubber washer of the right size ...
The lens is sapphire glass. You'd be hard pressed to actually be able to scratch it, not impossible but rather unlikely from the random "scraping along a surface as I place the phone down / pick it up".
For reference sapphire is 9 on the Mohs scale (1-10) of hardness: 1 being baby powder, ~6-7 being Gorilla Glass and 10 being diamond.
So unless you plan on rubbing your 10's camera lens with a diamond anytime soon then don't bother trying to "protect" it, it already has the protection it needs.
Lol at the people who rub their camera lens with a diamond
I somehow managed to shatter the glass on my rear camera over the weekend. I tossed it in a bag with my GoPro and somehow when I took it out, the glass was absolutely ruined. Glad I have Uh-Oh protection, but I wasn't planning to have to use it only 3 weeks into the phone!

Question Scratches

Hey Guys, how is your Honor Ultimate managing scratches? i don't use screenprotectors because they don't survive long. My front screen has a lot of tiny scractches already after few months! Only putting it in my front jean pocket alone without keys, nothing! Working at an Office so no important dirt!
Is it gorilla glas? i had lot of phones before doing exactly the same things, but the honor seems getting impacted worse!
And the cameralens at the back has 2 deep scratches! how is this possible?
You experiencing the same thing?
Yeah that sucks...
Sand is almost always the culprit. One grain is all it takes. Sand is found just about everywhere.
Grit from granite bedrock will do it too. Pockets tend to collect debris and some of it may be hard enough to scratch glass. Loose pockets work better.
Any fine grit on your finger tip can do it. If water is present it acts as a cutting lubricant for any abrasives present. Brass keys are too soft to scratch glass.
Without a screen protector scratches are par for the course and it doesn't matter which type of glass as all will scratch to a greater or lesser extent.
Finding the right protector and applying are a true pain. I like the water based hydrogel ones.
Selection and availability depends on the phone make/model.
I've had mine for roughly a month here so far so good. Are you using a case on yours? I've been using the one that came with the phone and ordered a new case that I plan to use with it. I always wipe my screen with microfiber cloth and try to put it in a non abrasive pocket etc.

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