Hi, my phone got bricked using GPart live to turn my ext 2 into a 3 partition. Everything went fine using the program, turned off Usb storage, went into market and tried to download a program, when it started to install the screen when black.
Now I cant boot with sdcard in, I don't come past the white HTC screen
Without SDcard it starts loading the system but the loading is a never ending loop.
Tried to format SD with fakeflash, dosent help
Tried reflashing my rom with wipe and everything, dosent help
Any ideas?
did you convert it while the phone was in Android or while it was in recovery?
Nekromantik said:
did you convert it while the phone was in Android or while it was in recovery?
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In android =X I don't know why, really stupid.
prove said:
In android =X I don't know why, really stupid.
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yes that would be why
lol
you should have thought about it.
only thing I can think of is trying to flash a official HTC RUU update so you will get back to stock and will have to re-root.
If you have wiped everything and re-flashed then I dont know what else to suggest.
Nekromantik said:
yes that would be why
lol
you should have thought about it.
only thing I can think of is trying to flash a official HTC RUU update so you will get back to stock and will have to re-root.
If you have wiped everything and re-flashed then I dont know what else to suggest.
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Yeah, I guess that its my best chance. Do you know which files that has to be on the SD for fake-flash and where I can find them?
just need the update.zip on the root of the card.
Have u tryed using AM recovery?
If u load it like the clockwork recovery u can partiotion your sd-card in recovery mode,
works every time for me ;-)
http://www.multiupload.com/61STV8CPHL <-- fake flash version just like clockwork but whit partitioning options.
Qliratu said:
Have u tryed using AM recovery?
If u load it like the clockwork recovery u can partiotion your sd-card in recovery mode,
works every time for me ;-)
http://www.multiupload.com/61STV8CPHL <-- fake flash version just like clockwork but whit partitioning options.
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Yes that could work, if the ROM you have flashed requires a ext partition, it will boot loop if you dont have a SD card in. So use clockwork to re-partition the card with a ext.
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Yes that could work, if the ROM you have flashed requires a ext partition, it will boot loop if you dont have a SD card in. So use clockwork to re-partition the card with a ext.
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Im on DeFrost right now, does it require ext? I have to find a micro sd reader then I get right on partitioning.
Edit: I've been thinking if this don't work. Is it possible for someone to make an image of their full rom so that I can try and flash that? Because what I've understood the ones that are up for downloading e.g. DeFrost are not 100% complete.
Maybe some developer know's what could cause a boot loop so I (with some help) could make a flash containing just those files.
u can also try booting recovery, mount SD-USB..
remove update.zip from your root sd.
Place the file i posted above in your root (rename to update.zip ofc's)
Restart phone and enter recovery again (now u get a new recovery) go to partition menu and repartition your SD.
I loooove this forum! Thanks for all the help people, reformat the sd solved my problem. Thanks a thousand times!
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Hi all
A very noob question but I cannot find out how. How to format my sd card with ext partition? I tried the clockwork but did not work. I tried ROM Manager and its telling me that there is an error.
Can someone point me to something were it shows how to do this?
Thanks a lot for your help
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Hi all
A very noob question but I cannot find out how. How to format my sd card with ext partition? I tried the clockwork but did not work. I tried ROM Manager and its telling me that there is an error.
Can someone point me to something were it shows how to do this?
Thanks a lot for your help
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Get a SD card reader?
i don't have one, is there another procedure through the phone?
No need for card reader. I did it using the one in rom manager, but as you are not able to use this, i would go with the pushed recovery from the older rooting methods from modaco. You just enter the black recovery screen with the !
Then your insert the cable, and run a batch file on your computer. This recovery should have the ability to partitionate.
just search for the r5 root or pm me for link (cant post links as i'm a new user)
You must use the file called "recovery-windows.bat" or the one for your system.
but if you have clockwork installed, the black screen with <!> will not appear becaus clockwork recovery is loaded automaticly.
if i push the recovery from the r5-root img (while beeing in clockwork recovery) it seems like there are both recoverys running at the same time.
how can i uninstall clockwork recovery or block it from beeing autostarted ?
It doesn't. Normally it boots into normal recovery, and then you have to apply update.zip (which is Clockwork Recovery). THEN it boots into CMR.
ye it is because you have flashed the unrevoked permanent recovery. I prefer the fakeflash as it is easy to change and work just as well.
In that case if there is another easy method to format the sd other than using your computer. I have seen som suggestions on using the amonra recovery.. You could try that.
And i only think you can remove the permanent recovery by flashing stock ruu for now, but then you will have to reroot, as it also unroot the device.
pain in the arse isn't it.. I came across this exact dilemma today
hopefully the unrevoked guys will sense this and make some changes on their next release?
Ok managerd to do it by flashing the ROM
Thanks for your help guys
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pain in the arse isn't it.. I came across this exact dilemma today
hopefully the unrevoked guys will sense this and make some changes on their next release?
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Good evening,
before I start:
HTC Desire HD
Orange Branded
Clockwordmod Recovery
I was out and about today when I recieved a nice message telling me there was a system update to download and install. I got within WiFi signal and downloaded it. when I tried to run it, it kept hanging on the ClockwordMod (CWM) Recovery page. First it told me that it couldn't mount the SD card where the update was stored. So I mounted the SD card through CWM and tried again. This time it told me that it couldn't be verified. So I turned that off too. Then it told me something else didn't work so I disabled that (sorry, I can't remember but it begins with 'A'). I tried a final time to install the update but it wouldn't work still.
Then the phone wouldn't load. It just hung on the HTC white screen for about ten mins with no movement.
I removed the battery, reloaded by pressing Vol Down + On. I have tried every menu item but the loader tells me that an image (beginning with P****.zip) is missing. It lets me load the clockworkmod recovery page so I have tried to restore a backup that I made about a week ago. It restored it, (or so it said) but when I then told it to reload it still hangs on the HTC white screen.
It's now been hanging for ten mins and I'm just leaving it.
Does it just need to be left for a long time to reload from the HTC white screen?
If it does not reload, how can I get it to?
Many thanks for your impending help!
You havent bricked your phone, a bricked phone wont power on! For future reference, remember, you cannot flash an ota update with a custom recovery installed. As you have found out it messes your device up. Ok you have 2 options.
1. Try a full wipe from the mounts and storage menu. Then try to restore your backup.
2. Flash a custom rom from recovery.
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You havent bricked your phone, a bricked phone wont power on! For future reference, remember, you cannot flash an ota update with a custom recovery installed. As you have found out it messes your device up. Ok you have 2 options.
1. Try a full wipe from the mounts and storage menu. Then try to restore your backup.
2. Flash a custom rom from recovery.
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I really thought restoring my backup would have done it.
I now need to try a custom rom.
AndroHero said:
You havent bricked your phone, a bricked phone wont power on! For future reference, remember, you cannot flash an ota update with a custom recovery installed. As you have found out it messes your device up. Ok you have 2 options.
1. Try a full wipe from the mounts and storage menu. Then try to restore your backup.
2. Flash a custom rom from recovery.
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Would you happen to know where I can get the Orange ACE Rom from?
I've tried to install the Cyanogen Mod but that has got me no further.
I downloaded the most uptodate build of Cyanogen Mod (7) and copied it to my SD Card.
Through ClockworkMod Recovery I installed Cyanogen Mod and it told me that it had been successful. I restarted the phone and it got past the HTC white screen.....
I was very excited until it is not sat here on the Cyanogen Mod screen which just loads over and over again repeatedly.
Any other ideas please? I suspect I need the Orange ACE Stock Rom....is it available?
did you wipe your phone before trying to flash the new roms as AndroHero suggested?
if not try that first (you can do it via clockwork recovery or via easy full wipe from mero01 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868720)
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did you wipe your phone before trying to flash the new roms as AndroHero suggested?
if not try that first (you can do it via clockwork recovery or via easy full wipe from mero01 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868720)
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yes, the only thing I didn't wipe was the SD card because that's where the rom / backup is stored. Do i need to completely wipe that then put the backup back on there?
as far as i know, it shouldn't be necessary. but i'm not really sure, sorry.
you could try formatting your sd card, wouldn't hurt, but maybe it would be better to wait for someone with more knowledge about android than me.
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as far as i know, it shouldn't be necessary. but i'm not really sure, sorry.
you could try formatting your sd card, wouldn't hurt, but maybe it would be better to wait for someone with more knowledge about android than me.
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Thanks for your help so far. I am trying everything. If I could find the actual Orange Stock Rom (Ace) then I might get somewhere. I don't want to install a custom rom if not necessary.
EDIT: I have found an Orange Stock Rom (RUU). How do i install it?
I can only get to the bootloader screen so do I plug the USB cable in at this point and run the RUU from the PC once the drivers have installed? Do I put the RUU on the SD card and somehow run it from there?
i think this is the newest stock rom : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969374&highlight=orange+rom
but as AndroHero already mentioned, i think you can't flash stock RUUs with cwm recovery.
p.s. did you give easy wipe from the link from my previous post a try ?
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i think this is the newest stock rom : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969374&highlight=orange+rom
but as AndroHero already mentioned, i think you can't flash stock RUUs with cwm recovery.
p.s. did you give easy wipe from the link from my previous post a try ?
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I must admit that i've not yet tried the Easy Wipe. At the moment I am downloading an older stock Rom (the one that was on there before this happened) and am following some other instructions to extract the PD98IMG.ZIP which appears to be missing.
I DID go through CWM to competely wipe everything with the exception of the SD card and i managed to almost get CyanogenMod working....it would work for about 20seconds before reloading again....very strange. It has given me hope though. I tried wiping everything before doing the restore of my original backup but still nothing.
the download is taking ages so I'll give easy wipe a go.....wait....
SOLVED
thank you for all who helped.
I solved this problem by downloading an older Orange Stock Rom from the link above. After that, I followed instructions in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841890 and reinstalled the rom.zip that it mentions. Sure enough, I am back to where I started about 3 weeks ago but because everything was backed up to the cloud I really don't mind at all. Sure, I have to root it with VISIONary again to remove all the apps that Orange have stuffed in but I can cope with that.
In fact, the worst thing is that I completed Angry Birds and Angry Birds Seasons and now i have no proof!!
Thanks again all.
glad that you could finally solved it!
i, too just lost all my angry birds saves because i just downgraded so that i could root my dhd
So my phone now will only reboot up to the HTC Incredible white screen. I'm not even sure what the issue is, all i did last before it got stuck was erase data on an old sd card i had in the phone. Then I just did a reboot and it froze on the white screen.
I'm running GB evervolv 2.3.2 with 2.6.37.4 incredikernel.
I can get into HBOOT but when i click on recovery it takes me into fastboot everytime.
What can i do to fix this????
Sorry please move this thread to the Q&A section, i thought that's where I was posting it, my bad.
Go to the Clockwork Recovery thread and download the update for a different version and try getting that to flash via bootloader. That way you can at least get into recovery if you need to flash new. Just to clear it up, did you use your phone to delete stuff off the old card, by using Astro or ES file explorer? I know ES file explorer has root access so is there a chance you could've deleted a system file on accident? All it takes is a click of the SD card icon and you're in root instead of SDcard. Also this is probably a thread more for the Q&A subforum, just an fyi
i deleted an old sd card that i don't even use for my phone, i was just putting it in there to clear out whatever was left on it. so i could use it new.
And it still bootloops even when you put your normal SD card back in?
yup, i dunno what it's deal is.
I remember an older version of cm7 on the nook color warned against formating sd cards because it accidentaly formats the boot partition, this may be a bug that exists in the rom your using.
at least you can get into hboot, you should be able to download ruu image and flash it in hboot. this would get you back to stock, then root and install clockwork, and then restore your latest nandroid.
Flash this recovery in hboot
http://downloads.unrevoked.com/forever/recovery/clockworkmod/PB31IMG.ZIP
It should at least give you a working recovery.
i have to rename things as update.zip in order for hboot to flash them right??
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i have to rename things as update.zip in order for hboot to flash them right??
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NO leave it PB31IMG.ZIP.
hboot can only see that name. if you rename it hboot will not see it at all.
also make sure your card is formatted as FAT32
got it into recovery so i'm just wiping and restoring, thanks for the help!
ok now i'm getting a bootloop on the cm7 boot screen...i just went to flash that new instead of my nandroid because the nandroid was from an older rom.
Did you wipe everything? Davik, Cache, Data, etc?
wiped data and cache...didn't do davik because i've never had to in the past. but i'll give it a try.
would i need to update CMW from version 2.0+ to 3 in order for cm7 to work? because it's still bootlooping
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO ME!
i was on MIUI 1.3.25 (the newest GB release) and i was formatting an sd card and when i restarted my phone i got stuck at the splash screen! i have been able to boot back into cwm recovery but even when i wipe and flash, nothing works.
i booted into recovery and tried to restart from there - failed
i reflashed 3.18 (wiped cache/dalvik) - failed
i wiped all data and reflashed 3.18 - failed
wiped all, flashed 3.25, fixed permissions - stuck at splash screen again
restored an old MIUI (v1.1.15) - stuck at splash screen
pleaseee let me know if you figure this out
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i ran the RUU and got stock to start working. i'm about to root and try flashing something
JWorth said:
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO ME!
i was on MIUI 1.3.25 (the newest GB release) and i was formatting an sd card and when i restarted my phone i got stuck at the splash screen! i have been able to boot back into cwm recovery but even when i wipe and flash, nothing works.
i booted into recovery and tried to restart from there - failed
i reflashed 3.18 (wiped cache/dalvik) - failed
i wiped all data and reflashed 3.18 - failed
wiped all, flashed 3.25, fixed permissions - stuck at splash screen again
restored an old MIUI (v1.1.15) - stuck at splash screen
pleaseee let me know if you figure this out
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i ran the RUU and got stock to start working. i'm about to root and try flashing something
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Are you getting errors when you wipe?like when you wipe data does it say error can't mount or anything like that.... I have a feeling you may have to flash an Ruu and then reroot
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no, no errors. but i flashed the RUU and rerooted and everything works just fine. I flashed MIUI again and it worked perfect
thanks!
I figured that's what you would have to do glad you are back running
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I always mount my sdcard in a linux and format/fix/repartion, or at least let Clockwork Recovery do it. I have never found a Sense, Vanilla, or AOSP ROM that handled SD partition operations very well, without at least a little tragedy.
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I always mount my sdcard in a linux and format/fix/repartion, or at least let Clockwork Recovery do it. I have never found a Sense, Vanilla, or AOSP ROM that handled SD partition operations very well, without at least a little tragedy.
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This tends to be things go as far as ROMs partitioning my sd, always back it up externally and format/partition before transferring stuck back over to it while in phone.
Hi,
I am having some real problems with my Desire. I was using T-Mod (Leedroid) but thought I'd try out the RCMix ROM this arvo so I did all my backups and a Nandroid backup. I was using CWM 2.5.0.7 and this was fine before but I tried to flash RCMix on and it didn't work. I then tried to upgrade CWM to 3.2.0.8 unsuccessfully. I even tried upgrading from ext3 to ext4 and I formatted my 16GB SD card but that didn't help either.
I have not been able to upgrade anything yet and my phone will not even boot up stock. It is not letting me do any installs of zips, it says no files found and it won't let me do any Nandroid restores either.
So I am stuck with a useless phone that I can't even temporarily use because it won't boot past the Telstra boot screen. I can only get into bootloader and recovery. I have wiped everything but can't get anything to work. I am S-ON.
Can anybody help me? I'm at a loss and have been googling and trying things for hours upon hours tonight. It would be great just to even get back to stock....
Format your SD card (copy content to PC first!), go to fastboot and then try RUU from Telstra...
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The Telstra RUU didn't work because it's too old. I'm downloading the downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1 right now, so I'll try that and see what happens.
Any ideas why CWM can't see the zip files on my sd card?
Corrupted data perhaps...? Try formating your sd (all partitions - if any ext3/4) and rebuild your partitions... It should work...by your intel, it must be an sd card problem, have you tried another one...?
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I tried formatting it a few times. I tried both ext3 and also ext4 but it still couldn't see the zip files. I also formatted the FAT32 part. I used Gparted to do it with the FAT32 partition at the left and ext3/4 on the right. I tried it at 2GB but it didn't like it so I tried 1.8GB and then it recognised the ext3/4 part but still can't see the zip files.
Just finished downloading the downgrade so will try that now.
Perhaps something is wrong with my sdcard..?
The downgrade failed but I've managed to flash RCMix on with a different 2GB sdcard. I have tried to use the other card again but CWM still can't find any files on it for some reason. Gparted is also not loading it anymore so perhaps that 16GB sdcard is dead. Looks like I'm going to need to buy a new 16GB sdcard so I can store my music on there again as 1GB is being used for the ext3 partition.
Does this sound about right, that the sdcard is dead?
I can still use and access it in windows, it just won't work on the phone.
I found that if the cards file system is on the way out cwm nicely wipes it for me. If after several formats its the same, it may well be a dead card
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yeah ok, I've formatted it numerous times and it still won't read any zips. I wasted so much time when all I had to do was use another sdcard....sucks so much.
Also how do I permanently upgrade CWM from 2.5.0.7? I have to keep fake flashing 3.2.0.8 at the moment.
I was thinking when I get my new sdcard that I'll try and do S-OFF. Is it worth it? Should I bother?
Oh god yeah. Fake flash has so many flaws. S-off and fastboot flash recovery.img. see fastboot faq in my signature
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ok thanks, I'll try S-OFF and flash a new recovery.img when I get a new sdcard.
Which version of CWM is best to use? I was going to use 3.2.0.8 because that's what was said to use with RCMix.
I use 5.0.2.0 for some time now and I haven't had any problems at all.
http://download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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I use 5.0.2.0 for some time now and I haven't had any problems at all.
http://download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/
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ok thanks, I'll try that version then.
Do I need to download recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-bravo.zip or recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-bravo.img ??
.img to fastboot flash it. I prefer 2.5.0.7 myself
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Cool thanks. I can't use 2.5.0.7 though as apparently it won't work well with the ROM I'm using.
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Cool thanks. I can't use 2.5.0.7 though as apparently it won't work well with the ROM I'm using.
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And why not? You get errors?
I did have some issues but never mind all that now. I bought a new 16gb card today and am now S-OFF thanks to the revolutionary method and have flashed cwm 5.0.2.0, a new splash img and boot animation. Now to set up the rest of my phone. I'm a happy chappy!
Hello guys,
I think I'm dying over here.
I just got my HTC One X and since I don't really like Sense I tried to flash it. So here is what I did:
1. Unlock the Bootloader: Everything was fine
2. Flash Clockwork recovery via fastboot: Check.
2. Root the phone via Clockwork Recovery: Still everything worked
3. Flash the Bootimage via fastboot: Still green
4. Flash the actual ROM via Clockwork Recovery:
Here's where the problems started kicking in. The Rom started flashing, erased my internal storage, but then aborted for some reason.
Now I have the following Problem: I can get into HBOOT, I can get into the cwm, but thats it. When I try to get to the internal storage cwm tells me: internalsd was not found.
So I thought maybe I'll just set everything back to start via RUU. Problem is: I can't find a suitable RUU. Fastboot tells me my version is 2.17.111.3, but I can only find RUUs with the id 1.26.111.3. Seems to be an older version? Can I use that one, too? If not, has anyone any idea, what to do? I don't know what to do.
Thanks for your help.
You can mount your sd card within cwm recovery . Go to mounts & storage and then at the the bottom you see mount as USB disk. Copy another ics rom to it. And do the procedure all over. Flash the boot.img from the rom do a factory reset and flash the ics rom.
Try another ICS rom first !
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You can mount your sd card within cwm recovery . Go to mounts & storage and then at the the bottom you see mount as USB disk. Copy another ics rom to it. And do the procedure all over. Flash the boot.img from the rom do a factory reset and flash the ics rom. You tried to flash a JB rom that is not compatible with the hboot you have !
Try another ICS rom first !
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Thanks for the quick answer, I appreciate it.
When I try to mount the whole storage as USB drive windows wants me to format it. Can I do that, or is that a bad idea?
Hmm well it depends if you have personal stuff on it like fotos or something. Of not i don't see the problem. And by this you mean the 25 gig that is available on the sd card ?
And what do you mean with "the whole storage" ? There is only 1 sd card in the phone. And that's the one that will be mounted with the USB disk mount option.
You are using 5.8.4.0 cwm recovery ?
Keep the info coming so help can be provided ! :thumbup:
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Hmm well it depends if you have personal stuff on it like fotos or something. Of not i don't see the problem. And by this you mean the 25 gig that is available on the sd card ?
Keep the info coming so help can be provided ! :thumbup:
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Well, no personal stuff. As mentioned, I literally just bought the phone.
I go into the recovery, then mounts and storage -> mount USB Storage -> plug it into my computer -> windows wants me to format the storage of the device I just pluged in...
Should not be a problem then, maybe it got corrupted somehow....make sure that you format it as fat32. Then copy another ics rom, try viper x ..... Great experience with that one ! Just to make sure the whole shabam works !
Chill!
Well Just wanted to tell u ..Chill u havent BRICKED ur phone.
Take a deep breath and follow what has been told.
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Should not be a problem then, maybe it got corrupted somehow....make sure that you format it as fat32. Then copy another ics rom, try viper x ..... Great experience with that one ! Just to make sure the whole shabam works !
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Ah, it worked like a charm. You just saved my weekend. Thanks again.
Good to hear. and u can flash flash viper x also without sense , did u see that option in the aroma installer ?
MarcelHofs said:
Good to hear. and u can flash flash viper x also without sense , did u see that option in the aroma installer ?
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To be honest, I chose cyanogen mod 9. I really like the vanilla ICS/JB.
One more question: What would I have to to, to use JB roms?
No problem ! It's great that it worked !
Well for as far as i know you have to update the hboot IF the CID number of your phone supports it. You have to flash a firmware zip in a way. I'm not into this. I'm waiting for the original OTA
here is a link with some more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920060
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No problem ! It's great that it worked !
Well for as far as i know you have to update the hboot IF the CID number of your phone supports it. You have to flash a firmware zip in a way. I'm not into this. I'm waiting for the original OTA
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Well, I see. Hm, the way I see it the changes between ics and jb are way to insignificant, to risk destroying my phone. So, I'll stick with CM9 for the time beeing. But again: Thanks.
Enjoy the phone and have a nice weekend
SD card can't be found
SOLVED SOLVED SOLVED
Tried flashing a rom but the installation failed, so I tried again only to get the message
E:/Can't mount/sdcard/
Rebooted my phone to find that the oririnal rom was still working but its unable to read my sdcard because its unmounted. Can't use usb storage or mount in recovery or use any recovery tools that require sd card access
If the HOX was a sealed unit I would simply take the sd card and put it back in
Is there solution to this problem?
Reformatting my SD card fixed the problem
If you want jb ROMs you don't need to upgrade hboot, only jb sense ROMs need to. You can flash cm10 without any kind of problem.