Just been speaking to a guy from work who in the same situation as me, hes on orange, im on t-mobile, and basically, about 1 in every 10 messages sent, doesnt send, or some send twice etc...
Iv just installed a new rom and rooted, and if anything my issues are getting worse.
As i text a lot, this is rather annoying and i now it not just me!
So question is , is it a software issue or hardware?
and can it be fixed, or helped?
many of my messages are only sent half since i have my desire.....
I get the same. I kinda thought it was because I flashed with a stock ROM instead of the Orange one but when HTC sent back from repair with the Orange ROM it did the same bloody thing!
It only happens when I text Vodafone or O2. Orange, Virgin, 3 etc. are fine.
To be honest I think it's a network issue. Either that or your phone is in a weak 3g area, and as you are sending the text, it is changing from hsdpa, to 3g etc. That might cause it to double send, or fail.
Try setting it to 2g only and test it.
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To be honest I think it's a network issue. Either that or your phone is in a weak 3g area, and as you are sending the text, it is changing from hsdpa, to 3g etc. That might cause it to double send, or fail.
Try setting it to 2g only and test it.
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Yeah he's rite its prob ur signal, i get it when im on one bar hsdpa rather than, 4 bar gprs lol also data affects txt msgs, it sometimes happens when my fone is sending or receving data
if its signal why does it happen on my tmobile phone, and my friends orange phone???
I turn 3g off most of the time, makes no difference , still messes up.
Both networks share the same masts don't they? If you are both in the same office and connected to the same mast that would explain it. Also this thread only has people complaining from tmob, and orange. I'd say that is a pointer. I'm on O2 and have never had this problem. I also don't remember seeing any other threads on the same issue.
I'm by no means saying this isn't an issue for you, but I'd be looking more at the network than the handset. Have you rang Tmob and asked them what might be up?
For me, this issue is related to spesific contacts. When I text some of my contacts, I always get an error message. I have reentered their number in phonebook, but it does not help.
This is rather annoying, as one of the contacts is my wife...
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Not a network issue. It also happens on Vodafone. I don't have so many messagee broken as you to but one out of eight is not sent. I think it desires problem.
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Yep same on my unlocked unbranded desire on 3 uk getting pissed off with it
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Im on orange generic non-branded phone with bog standard Sence ROM, I noticed I get this and as I have notice will all phones it only tends to happen if im sending a text at the same time I receive it, Of course actually getting it to resend is a bugger! and normally requires a battery pull, Im used to it these days but
Has anyone who is having problems tried a different messaging application, e.g Handcent?
Regards,
Dave
I've posted all of this before and there are loads of threads on this topic already
If you uninstall chomp/handcent (or any third party messaging app - even the HTC sense one) and use 'messages' instead this problem goes away.
Like you, I would get send failed/multiple messages received quite often, but since using the default app i've now sent 1, 127 messages without 1 problem I used to get this all of the time and this is what has cured it for me
1) uninstall any messaging software you have downloaded from the market
2) download sms unread count and sms popup from the market
3) put the sms unread count widget on the homescreen
4) configure sms popup to your liking
5) send messages to your heart's content
This uses the default 'messages' app rather than anything else and works perfectly
For me this happened continually, regardless of if the phone had just been hard reset and only had the stock message app.
In my case it was an issue with a local mast and the switching between WCDMA and GSM signal.
The issue went, as some other people have said, when I switched the phone to GSM only - keep in mind just turning Mobile data OFF isn't the same thing, you must go into settings and select 'GSM only'.
Give it a try and see if the issue remains.
There does seem to be several causes for the same issue so what works for me / someone else may not work for everyone
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For me this happened continually, regardless of if the phone had just been hard reset and only had the stock message app.
In my case it was an issue with a local mast and the switching between WCDMA and GSM signal.
The issue went, as some other people have said, when I switched the phone to GSM only - keep in mind just turning Mobile data OFF isn't the same thing, you must go into settings and select 'GSM only'.
Give it a try and see if the issue remains.
There does seem to be several causes for the same issue so what works for me / someone else may not work for everyone
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This was part of my problem too as my signal at home constantly moves between 3G and E, however, the method I posted above has fixed this too
kingkang said:
For me, this issue is related to spesific contacts. When I text some of my contacts, I always get an error message. I have reentered their number in phonebook, but it does not help.
This is rather annoying, as one of the contacts is my wife...
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Same issue for me one contact can sms me but every time i try to reply it fails other contacts seem to work just fine.
Sorry but how do you uninstall the sense messaging app?
This is defiantly a problem with the desire not network. I've never had this problem before with any of my phones. but since got the desire it happens a lot. it seems to be when I try to send multiple texts very quickly. plz stop blaming the network it didn't happen when I had an iPhone so how do you explain that.
I also have an issue sending multiple sms. My Desire is on Vodafone, unrooted.
Whether I use the default messaging app or Chompsms, if I try to send a message to multiple people it immediately fails to most of the recipients.
The phone will give me repeated warnings (vibration/failed msg reports) again and again, until it has managed to send the sms to all recipients. It will generally complete the request eventually, but in the process it's thrashing my battery down as I have to keep checking if the new notification is a warning or in fact an sms that I have received from someone else.
This behaviour is absolutely AWFUL, and although I used to forward on jokes that I received to a list of about 20 people several times a day, I just cannot do it any more. The same action using the same sim in my old Dream completes fine without a hiccup.
how do you uninstall the htc sense messaging app?
do you just mount /system and remove the Mms.apk from the App folder?
will this still mean that the default messaging app is not removed?
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Hey guys,
Picked up a desire yesterday and its great, though I'm having some issues with sms. I notice I don't receive any texts until I send a text first, then I'll receive 2 or 3 texts, timestamped in the past, up to an hour ago!
Any ideas anyone?
Thanks.
edit: unrooted on o2
i get a similar problem, i know i should have received a text message but it doeant show up for hours.
unrooted on tmobile uk
Most likely when your phone is connected over GPRS the text don't come through till you disconnect, used to happen on my N95.
So if my phone is operating in GPRS mode, until it decides it doesn't need the internet anymore and disconnects, it won't retrieve texts... right. So any workarounds or fixes for this?
Prety much, after I use GPRS I just made a call and during or after the call my text came in.
Been getting this all day, are people really just dealing with this or is it only a few people that have this issue?
I am having another problem... on T-mobile, my phone won't download MMS messages. It will just say Download error, General Network Failure... After it expired (3days) , I was sent a link to the T-mobile website, where I am able to see it for 14 days.
Another problem that I am having, the phone is struggling sending long text messages... 4 or 5 normal lenght messages 500-600 characters... I am using the Text App provided with the phone.
I have a problem that I dont think is an actual problem I think its just how the phone works, and tbh its a bit rubbish.
If you dont have signal when you hit send (im my office at work I only get signal on a little square of the desk) the phone says "message not sent". Sometime when it gets signal it will send the message, but if it doesnt get signal quick enough it seems to just give up sending.... a bit lame really....
I'm going to post a message up with the T-mobile UK MMS settings so people in future can find it on search. Have a look in 5 mins.
JAmes.
I've got the same issue with my HTC Desire.
My operator is a Belgium one, namely Mobistar.
I've got the impression that when i open the sms box, i start seeing the messages. Don't know if it's the communication that goes wrong, or the 'throughput' in the phone (screen, alerting...).
After installing (and using of course) chompSMS, this problem is gone... yipppie...
Guys, about 90% of the time when i send a text message, of any size, to anyone, i get a 'message can not be sent' notification and the phone vibrates, this happens about 2-7 times before the text message is sent, and for each time it tries to send the text again, this amount is send to the recipient, for example if it retries 7 times i will send the message 7 times - very annoying
when using the froyo rom from both paul and richardtrip i did not have this issue, although i am almost certain this was due to the stock messaging app, i even tried using handcent on the froyo which i used on the stock and on the froyo it worked perfectly too, but handcent will not work on the stock rom.
so it seems to me that it is an issue with either the stock (sense based) rom or the htc messaging app
im on tmobile UK on a branded phone, this happens on any radio, both rooted and unrooted
does anyone have any advice, or know of a way to replace the htc messaging app with the stock android messaging app?
if i could get this sorted id be very happy, so i appreciate any help
thanks in advance
I've had this issue happen a couple of times aswell, not sure how to replicate it, it seems totally random, but i haven't seen a 90% change of getting it!
try a new radio lol
This happens to me if I use any messaging system other than the default one (e.g. handcent or chomp) and the signal changes whilst sending the message (i.e. H to 3G or E to G etc. etc.)
I am still using the default rom with the latest update as I am waiting for 2.2 before rooting
turn off GRPS/EDGE/ 3G Data
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Guys, about 90% of the time when i send a text message, of any size, to anyone, i get a 'message can not be sent' notification and the phone vibrates, this happens about 2-7 times before the text message is sent, and for each time it tries to send the text again, this amount is send to the recipient, for example if it retries 7 times i will send the message 7 times - very annoying
when using the froyo rom from both paul and richardtrip i did not have this issue, although i am almost certain this was due to the stock messaging app, i even tried using handcent on the froyo which i used on the stock and on the froyo it worked perfectly too, but handcent will not work on the stock rom.
so it seems to me that it is an issue with either the stock (sense based) rom or the htc messaging app
im on tmobile UK on a branded phone, this happens on any radio, both rooted and unrooted
does anyone have any advice, or know of a way to replace the htc messaging app with the stock android messaging app?
if i could get this sorted id be very happy, so i appreciate any help
thanks in advance
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Had exactly the same problem on stock/sense based verions of romms. NEver had an issue on stock android messaging app, only with the sense one. Think it must be a bug with that app. I'm T-mo in UK to but have an unbranded phone.
dont resend it, just wait until the message is sent, the phone resends automatically, because if you click the resend, it will send another message. what i do is when i get that error message i just wait.
I'm getting this problem on my o2-uk Desire; they are sending me a replacement handset
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dont resend it, just wait until the message is sent, the phone resends automatically, because if you click the resend, it will send another message. what i do is when i get that error message i just wait.
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Thanks everyone for your replies
So it is confirmed that it is an issue with the HTC messaging app but not with the stock android messaging app, and no messaging clients can fix this as they use the default messaging app.
Is there anyway to change the HTC messaging app with the stock android? I prefer it anyway it works much better, the official froyo release will also contain the stock messaging app which I guess will have the same problem.
I will try flashing a different radio
Setting the phone to WCDMA only does not fix the issue
I am having this problem, and also another which I feel might be related, it tries to resend the message, and it eventually goes. I have also noticed that quite a number of times when I try to make a call, it doesnt dial, it just goes silent and returns to the call register screen. Maybe both related to a siganl problem . Somebody suggested switching off Edge or whatever, but thats not really a fix, and why should you have to do this to send a text. ?
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I am having this problem, and also another which I feel might be related, it tries to resend the message, and it eventually goes. I have also noticed that quite a number of times when I try to make a call, it doesnt dial, it just goes silent and returns to the call register screen. Maybe both related to a siganl problem . Somebody suggested switching off Edge or whatever, but thats not really a fix, and why should you have to do this to send a text. ?
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I agree, and I also experience the same problem, sometimes during a phone call the most strange sounds happen and then the call cuts out, I'm guessing is interference. Problems with calls, text messages, and the connection repeatedly drops when using the mobile internet, exactly the same problems as the hd2, they will not get fixed by HTC, speaking from experience.. very basic requirements of a phone still not being met
I have the exact same issue with both texts and calls that seem to take ages to connect and then just dump me back to the dialer. I've put it down to O2 being so awful but of people have the same issues on other networks id love to know
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I get it off and on, but I let it be and the messages eventually get sent out.
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I get it off and on, but I let it be and the messages eventually get sent out.
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Same here. I did the resending thing for a while, but now I just ignore those error notifications. The text messages arrive anyway
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I get it off and on, but I let it be and the messages eventually get sent out.
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same. I get it 10% of the time. On a unlocked Desire with a UK T-Mobile contract. just leave it to send a couple times, put your desire on a window sill and it should be okay.
but i think the message is not automatically sent if you lock the phone. can anyone confirm this? my unsent message was still not sent when i locked my phone.
As mentioned earlier in this thread, i used to get this issue all of the time when using handcent or chomp. However, since doing the following i've not had it happen once in 2 weeks (where it would happen 10+ times a day before)
1) uninstall any messaging software you have downloaded from the market
2) download sms unread count and sms popup from the market
3) put the sms unread count widget on the homescreen
4) configure sms popup to your liking
5) send messages to your heart's content
This uses the default 'messages' app rather than anything else and works perfectly
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As mentioned earlier in this thread, i used to get this issue all of the time when using handcent or chomp. However, since doing the following i've not had it happen once in 2 weeks (where it would happen 10+ times a day before)
1) uninstall any messaging software you have downloaded from the market
2) download sms unread count and sms popup from the market
3) put the sms unread count widget on the homescreen
4) configure sms popup to your liking
5) send messages to your heart's content
This uses the default 'messages' app rather than anything else and works perfectly
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Thanks very much for your reply
I will try this right now
i also have the problem with the unsent messages and undialled calls, tmo uk contract phone.
I searched the CM7 thread, but MMS and issue are such vague queries that I was unable to find anything pertaining to my issue.
I can receive MMS fine, but I cannot send at all. I choose the pic I want to send and hit send, and it just disappears. Doesn't show up in the thread of messages. Then when I back out of it, I see the last message I sent that person is (no subject) like it was my pic, but when I go into the thread it is not sent. But it shows up with the pic again like I never sent it. It saves it as a draft. Any time I hit send it does the same thing over and over. I can't even get the pic to delete from drafts. The only way is to delete the whole thread.
I have changed my number in the call settings to show with a +509251xxxx, no dashes or anything. Is there something else I am missing? I have tried several different CM7 builds and all have the same problem.
bump - really? Nothin guys?
Edit: reflashed CM7 and only restored apps+data, no system data and problem was resolved. I assumed since my system data was from a prior CM7 version that it would be no problem, apparently I was wrong. Thank me for all the help
I have the same issue. It doesn't disappear for me, but it just stays there wit the spinning circle thing. It never sends and after a couple of minutes, it says I cannot send the MMS.
Is there a solution without reflashing?
same problem.mine says mms is too large
I have the opposite issue. I've been completely unable to pin down the issue. I can MMS myself pictures and can MMS them to my email, but I cannot receive them. I used to receive them just fine, but now it's an issue.
I've confirmed that I can't receive them from iPhones, BlackBerries, and other Android phones.
I've checked my APN and know it works. I can access Mobile Data.
I've tried third party apps for messaging and that doesn't help.
I've spoofed as an iPhone, BlackBerry, and Custom (Blank) Agent without any results.
I've ensured my phone number in system settings doesn't have any symbols.
Anyone fix this issue?
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I searched the CM7 thread, but MMS and issue are such vague queries that I was unable to find anything pertaining to my issue.
I can receive MMS fine, but I cannot send at all. I choose the pic I want to send and hit send, and it just disappears. Doesn't show up in the thread of messages. Then when I back out of it, I see the last message I sent that person is (no subject) like it was my pic, but when I go into the thread it is not sent. But it shows up with the pic again like I never sent it. It saves it as a draft. Any time I hit send it does the same thing over and over. I can't even get the pic to delete from drafts. The only way is to delete the whole thread.
I have changed my number in the call settings to show with a +509251xxxx, no dashes or anything. Is there something else I am missing? I have tried several different CM7 builds and all have the same problem.
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Uhh, yeah that sucks: I have absolutely no idea, im on GingerVill 1.5 and it works fine, I also flashed sense, regular cm7, miui, and I never had a problem with it..
Try to download handscent or go sms and try that? I doubt that will work but give it a try!
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I have the opposite issue. I've been completely unable to pin down the issue. I can MMS myself pictures and can MMS them to my email, but I cannot receive them. I used to receive them just fine, but now it's an issue.
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Anyone fix this issue?
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I've got a similar issue -
Using CM7 7.0.3's Mms.apk my phone processes sms no problem, however it will not process mms - send or receive.
Go SMS Pro however will let me SEND picture messages - and Its going through my carrier because in an email to myself it was full of their crap - Sent to you from a Koodo Mobile Customer!
Unfortunately I cannot receive mms; Go SMS implies that it relies on the Mms.apk to forward notifications.
Considering that the Mms.apk isn't syncing with the mmsc properly, I'm assuming the problem lies there. I've even gone so far as to go to one of the phone kiosks and ask to play with their new Nexus S (*drool*) and ripped the apns off of it and uploaded their apn directly to my phone. Still, no dice.
Any suggestions anyone?
I've been having the same problems. Tried lots of things. I was also using Go SMS pro, and thought that was the issue. Tried fooling around with apn, user agent and MMS size etc... Nothing worked except the simple fix:
What I had to do to make it work was to have my mobile network on -- (which I almost always have off from the notification switches). Once it was turned on, it still didn't kick over because I was connected to wifi. So I had to manually disable wifi and then resend the message. It worked fine then.
So:
Turn off wifi
turn on mobile / 3g
resend message
Seems like a simple bug that's keeping the mobile network from kicking on.
Hi,
It's now for one year i have my HTC Desire (not rooted), and i have a problem with sms.
Two of the contacts i text the most reported me that they recieve my messages twice, sometimes more. One of them has a Nokia N900 and told me sometimes my messages get erased before he could read them (and it only happens with my sms) and the other one has an iphone 4.
So I think it comes from me but can't determine why, or how to stop it.
I'm using Handcent Sms (because of the annoying feature that converts sms longer than 3 or 5 in mms in the stock Messages apk).
For now i'm waiting for HTC to publish their 2.3 ROM for the desire, but it's still very boring.
I searched the web but i couldn't find any answer to my problem, so here i come to ask it to the most qualified forum i know.
Edit : I forgot to mention that for a few weeks my phone decided to randomly reboot without any obvious reason, don't know if it's related or not.
I had a similar problem, but it was my provider. Still occassionally it happens.
I'm french and my provider too. The friend with a nokia has got the same provider but never has the same issue.
But it could be.
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I'm french and my provider too. The friend with a nokia has got the same provider but never has the same issue.
But it could be.
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Come to think of it, I first noticed the problem on my N72. I would also get duplicate and sometimes triplicate sms from different people. And sometimes they would get from me.
Upgraded to Nokia E65, and it still ocassionally happened.
Since then, I've changed phones to the Desire. Didn't notice it, but the first was stolen after 2 weeks, so I got a new Desire and also changed providers. Haven't noticed anything odd yet.
As long as you don't get charged for the additional incoming/outgoing sms, I wouldn't worry.
Thanks,
I have unlimited sms included in my plan so i do not worry about it (i'm more about mms unwillingly sent). It does not bother me that much, but my friends complain about it a lot, that's why i would like to find a solution.
I'd check with your provider. Give them a few "short" words. See if these things are indeed being sent multiple times. IF they are (3 mms to the same person at the same time), then the issue is in their sms handling system.
At the time I had the issue with one provider, we were getting charged for both incoming and outgoing sms/mms. in otherwords, we were getting ripped off occassionally.
But now incoming is free.
EDIT: I suppose your Sent/recieved notfications are set to ON? Keep an eye on them, and see if you get 2 or 3 of the same notifications.
It seems like whenever I flash a sense rom and start texting, the outgoing messages are okay but the recieved messages are always an 2-3 hours behind. Is this just me or is there a fix for this?
I feel like its a sprint tower issue. I'm constantly roaming at my house so I always get delayed messages or texts showing a different time
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umm can you be more specific on what version of sense?
i have had issue with 3.5 not sending or recieving texts but no issues like the ones you describe with other versions
i believe this could help you out too but maybe not lol https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.sineo.android.GhostSMS&hl=en
qccoles said:
It seems like whenever I flash a sense rom and start texting, the outgoing messages are okay but the recieved messages are always an 2-3 hours behind. Is this just me or is there a fix for this?
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I have this issue EVERYTIME I receive a text while roaming. Never fails.
I have this problem with all Sense ROMs I have flashed, and I am a flashaholic. To get around this, I have just installed Go SMS Pro, which is better than the stock messaging app anyway. Any third-party SMS app should have the option to fix this as well.
I've had this problem on a couple occasions from what it sounds like... It does not sound like an app problem it sounds more like a service problem... When I called sprint to inform them of the issue they sent "refreshes" to my phone and it cleared up the problem almost instantly
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Checkyour settings and make sure to enable data while roaming. I think most roms have it disabled by default.
it's some sort of tower issue. It happens to me occassionally when I travel around. Cricket is my provider but it uses Sprint towers I beleive.
I use a tiny free app from the market called SMS Time Fix when I see it happen.