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Slidemeroot5r1 and missing paid apps in the market

Has anyone else noticed that there some paid/protected apps are not showing up in the marketplace? I can't find fandango or ride hopper pro using this rom, but they show up on slidemeroot2, nonrooted slides and a nonrooted motorola droid.
Anyone else notice missing crap?
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using Tapatalk

There are rooted and unrooted slides experiencing this as well. There is a thread about it in the general section
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I restored my slidemeroot2 nandroid image, wiped and reset up my google account. Low and behold I could get those two apps.
I restored my slidemeroot5, wiped, reset and still couldn't get them.
Wiped, reflashed slidemeroot5r1, added my google account and no dice off a virgin 5r1 flash.
Only thing I can think of is it knows I'm running apps2sd and can copy the apk from apps.private.
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mytouch slide
I see a lot of mytouch slide owners here and I was wondering if rooting the mytouch makes it more efficient?

dynamikd said:
I see a lot of mytouch slide owners here and I was wondering if rooting the mytouch makes it more efficient?
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There are a few reasons why some might actually need root the most important being the ability to put your applications onto the SD card (a2sd). Some people love to fill their phones to the brim with applications and currently there is no stock feature that allows you to use a2sd. Another feature that rooting allows is the capacity to use a wireless data sharing application that would give one the ability to use their phone as a modem with any wirelessly enabled laptop or computer. Currently there are a couple of applications in the market that will allow the use of your phone as a modem but I have found them to be less efficient than the rooted solution and limited as free versions and somewhat expensive for the full featured versions. There is talk that the 2.2 (FroYo) system update will include the a2sd feature but I was told by a tmobile beta device and software tester that he is confident that a2sd and native data tethering (network data connection sharing) with a usb cable will NOT be features supported natively in the coming FroYo (2.2) system update.
Rooting is also good for simply trying out customized and themed operating systems in the form of ROMs. Some folks have a big problem with the tmobile branded "Sense" operating system (OS) that was shipped with the phone. I love the Sense OS and I was a hardcore "Cyanogen Mod" ROM fan ... I can't imagine using a Cyanogen ROM at this point but I will try a Cyanogen ROM once that particular ROM is released because those ROMs are usually very nice. As the rooting scene develops there might by a way to "overclock" the processor to a higher speed than the 600mhz clock speed the stock ROM and all root ROMs are currently set. There has been no such overclocking achieved or utilized with a rooted ROM for the MT3GS at this point. Overclocking reduces battery life so you really have to choose whether a subtle performance improvement is worth the loss of battery longevity throughout the day.
Currently I think stock and unrooted is the way to go as the ROM's that are currently available for the MT3GS are no real improvement over stock ... but if you need a2sd due to limited internal memory or you need a mobile modem for your laptop or home computer then it is absolutely worth while. So it all depends on what you are trying improve the efficiency of when it comes to rooting.

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NJAZ said:
There are a few reasons why some might actually need root the most important being the ability to put your applications onto the SD card (a2sd). Some people love to fill their phones to the brim with applications and currently there is no stock feature that allows you to use a2sd. Another feature that rooting allows is the capacity to use a wireless data sharing application that would give one the ability to use their phone as a modem with any wirelessly enabled laptop or computer. Currently there are a couple of applications in the market that will allow the use of your phone as a modem but I have found them to be less efficient than the rooted solution and limited as free versions and somewhat expensive for the full featured versions. There is talk that the 2.2 (FroYo) system update will include the a2sd feature but I was told by a tmobile beta device and software tester that he is confident that a2sd and native data tethering (network data connection sharing) with a usb cable will NOT be features supported natively in the coming FroYo (2.2) system update.
Rooting is also good for simply trying out customized and themed operating systems in the form of ROMs. Some folks have a big problem with the tmobile branded "Sense" operating system (OS) that was shipped with the phone. I love the Sense OS and I was a hardcore "Cyanogen Mod" ROM fan ... I can't imagine using a Cyanogen ROM at this point but I will try a Cyanogen ROM once that particular ROM is released because those ROMs are usually very nice. As the rooting scene develops there might by a way to "overclock" the processor to a higher speed than the 600mhz clock speed the stock ROM and all root ROMs are currently set. There has been no such overclocking achieved or utilized with a rooted ROM for the MT3GS at this point. Overclocking reduces battery life so you really have to choose whether a subtle performance improvement is worth the loss of battery longevity throughout the day.
Currently I think stock and unrooted is the way to go as the ROM's that are currently available for the MT3GS are no real improvement over stock ... but if you need a2sd due to limited internal memory or you need a mobile modem for your laptop or home computer then it is absolutely worth while. So it all depends on what you are trying improve the efficiency of when it comes to rooting.
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I really appreciate you answering my question . I have a stock mt3g slide and I love the phone along with the Sense UI. It's fast, responsive and the only thing I was going to do was purchase a 32 gig card and be done with it . I started poking around the forums and that's how I came across "rooting". I just came from a jailbroken, unlocked Iphone 3g so I was totally stoked about doing this to my phone. But as I was reading up on it, I really did not see the purpose in rooting the mt3g slide just yet, besides like you said, the apps2sd and the tethering (which I did not know I could do on this phone until you mentioned it). I am a firm believer in tethering and I even downloaded the PdaNet app onto my phone but have yet to test it out.
My battery life is decent considering I keep 3g on at all times. Granted, there are a few spots that I travel to that have to use Edge but those spots are small. I saw a few videos with some nice roms but they all had the Sense UI removed and basically looked like every other android phone. I personally would like to "root" my phone while retaining Sense UI. I really like the "live wallpapers" and I have seen videos with it running on the slide and it looks really nice. Have you heard of an app called SetCpu <--spelling? I saw that people were able to overclock their chips significantly and I was wondering if I could use this same app on my mt3g slide?

dynamikd said:
I saw that people were able to overclock their chips significantly and I was wondering if I could use this same app on my mt3g slide?
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Doesnt work yet, we dont have a kernal that supports it.
It will happen.

ratchetrizzo said:
Doesnt work yet, we dont have a kernal that supports it.
It will happen.
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Oh ok I was just wondering. I cannot wait until that becomes available for our phones.
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Are you people total knuckleheads or just totally miguided and misinformed
I have it on good authority ( as the person sitting next to me at the moment can attest, that Team Cyanogen does indeed have a froyo 2.2 like build out for the G1, soon to be available for the MT3GS....It has native tethering, native JIT, native apps2SD, and native froyo gmail, changes to the market and native FROYO 2.2 calendar and many other tasty goodies......without all of the junk of a sense UI, so put all these inferior and one step backwards builds on your nice new shiny phone (like putting retreads on a Lamborghini)and get your heads out of your know nothing asses, and wait 2 months top for (as they say on many pizza boxes, you've tried all the rest....now try the best) a MT3GS cyanogen build

As excited as I am about obsidian's post (/sarcasm), it has no relevance to this discussion.
I'm also missing some paid apps with this ROM. Specifically Pure Calendar Agenda widget. When I get some time this weekend I'm going to try out another ROM and see what happens.
That being said, looking on Google's support boards, it might not be a ROM specific problem, but could be account related.

That is good to know. If it's an account issue, are they working on a fix for it? I don't want to root my phone then not be able to see certain products in the market place.
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Oh, I should be more specific. The threads I found on Google's boards were saying the problem seemed tied to Google accounts. But I've also seen some people say that changing ROMs has done it too. I'll flash something else tomorrow and check it out.

New to Android, Some Questions

I have been a long time Cell phone modder, and I have just gotten my first Android Phone, the HTC Evo 4G.
I have been reading androidforums.com and these forums for about a week now trying to get my head wrapped around things, but I still have some lingering questions.
I feel I have a good grip on how to get my phone rooted/nand unlocked, but its the what to do after that, which bothers me.
What I would like to accomplish:
More customized look and feel
Better battery life (without disabling half the features of the damn phone)
Free Wifi Hotspot
Removal of the pre-packaged crapware
Froyo
What I would not like to lose in the process:
Any of the phones functionality, including GPS/4G/Camera/Video/Bluetooth/etc.
Nice features that Sense has, such as Facebook contact syncing
Reliability or usability of the phone in general
As I have gotten older, my desire to mod has become less and less, and I get more tempted to just leave the phone alone and wait for OTA updates to come out, but when I just tried to do the wifi hotspot and learned I would have to pay an additional $30 on top of the $10 "premium data access" I made the decision to root. That being said, I don't want my phone to be something I am flashing every day. I want it to be as stable as possible so that I can get it all set up how I want without having to worry about re-flashing and losing all my data week after week to keep up with bugfixes and such.
What I don't understand is the differences between all the roms. The opinion at large seems to be that CM6 is the way to go, but it seems a lot of stuff is broken in CM6 atm, like 4G among other things.
Since this is my first android phone, I am already getting used to the Sense UI, but I have seen some other peoples home screens that just look amazing.
I guess what I am looking for is some advice, or a bit of a rundown (since I cant find all of this information in one place) about what is the best course of action to get from point A(stock phone) to point B(customized rooted phone which is "stable") over a path of least resistance.
Thanks in advance!
[also making this same post on androidforums.com]

You can accomplish everything you mentioned except froyo. If you do not want to lose any functionality then flashing a froyo rom is out of the question right now because they all have small issues. CM6 is a froyo rom.
The difference between roms is some are based on 2.2 (froyo) and others are based on 2.1 (stock for evo). Then they also differ in terms of what comes pre-installed, some remove all bloatware even sense and others do not, and then there are some in between. Any rom based on 2.1 will likely have everything working. I can tell you from experience that Damage Control and Backed Snack worked very well on my phone. The best thing to do is just try them out. Once your phone is rooted it is very easy to switch between roms.
Lastly the easiest way to achieve root is using simple root program which can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720565 (that link is assuming you have latest OTA update, if not search for simple root and you will find the one pre update)

try dc 3.2.3 very stable release(has all the features working; 4g, camera, ect) and has good battery life(don't need to disable half of your phones features), it also allows for a lot of customization(DCupdater allows you to download themes and flash them straight from your phone), and you can pick and choose what bloatware to remove using DConfig, a froyo release is suppose to come out sometime this weekend.

Another option for you is to root and then flash the latest rooted "stock" rom. then flash the latest radio and wimax. then you can use a file manager to remove bloatware. I use "root explorer" from the market. be careful what you remove as removing some things can cause problems. I am currently running this on one of my evo's with no problems everything works and battery life will get me through a day. if you need more info as removing the bloatware feel free to pm me and ill help with what i can. I'm sure using the stock rom will be sufficient for you. On the phone i have running i have all features enabled and am pushing my pop3 accounts through gmail, 4g wifitether, all works just fine.

So Many ROMS - What works in one may not work on the other - How to choose?

Hello everyone,
While i'm sure this must be a hard decision for most people, I am currently trying to decide which Rom to go with myself. I see there are about 5 different roms based on Froyo (2.2) and while i've tried reading pages and pages from each Rom post i've found out that what work in one may not work in the other.
So with that said how do you pick a rom that offers everything (if there's even one out yet?)
If i'm not mistaken Fresh has 4G issues and Tether doesnt work (not that tether is an issue but it'll be nice to have)
OMJ has music steaming issues, has working tether but camera is set to 3MP
I also see that most roms remove the Sprint apps (which i'm cool with except for the Navigator).. is there a way to get the Navigator back?
Decisions, Decisions.... Decisions....

The WiFi Tether issue isn't an issue with the rom. It's still a work in progress for full 2.2 support and it's possible to get it running if you flash a different kernel. Unfortunately that kernel has the adverse side effect of making the camera 3MP. Keep checking the wifi tether google code page to see when they release a fully working version for 2.2.

fresh has never had 4g issues.
4g confirmed working on all froyo betas and releases.

I can only comment on fresh bc that's the one I've used. I have no issues with 4g and tethering works great with netarchys 3.7.6c kernel although the back camera drops to 3mp which I'm fine with..also, fresh takes out the Sprint and some HTC apps but leaves them in a folder on your SD card in case you want to install any like navigation.
I'm sure you can adjust any of the roms to your liking, just play with them
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I like Fresh's rom for HTC Sense. I am currently still running the CM6 nightlies tho. No 4G in my area so not a big deal for me.

WillJV said:
Hello everyone,
While i'm sure this must be a hard decision for most people, I am currently trying to decide which Rom to go with myself. I see there are about 5 different roms based on Froyo (2.2) and while i've tried reading pages and pages from each Rom post i've found out that what work in one may not work in the other.
So with that said how do you pick a rom that offers everything (if there's even one out yet?)
If i'm not mistaken Fresh has 4G issues and Tether doesnt work (not that tether is an issue but it'll be nice to have)
OMJ has music steaming issues, has working tether but camera is set to 3MP
I also see that most roms remove the Sprint apps (which i'm cool with except for the Navigator).. is there a way to get the Navigator back?
Decisions, Decisions.... Decisions....
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This thread really belongs in the Q&A, as it has nothing to do with development.
However...
My best advice would be read through the threads for the respective roms, then try them out. Trying them out will give you the best information as far as what that rom has and what it doesn't have. but keep in mind, these roms aren't really made for you, they are just provided so you can use them if you want. They are ultimately made for the developers, and have their personal preferences built in.
If you want the sprint apps, I would suggest flashing fresh at least once. Although I'm not sure if he does it anymore, he use to put all the removed apps into /sdcard/fresh-removed-apks and you could reinstall them from there, on any rom.

It's all about one's personal choice when it comes to custom roms. They are all made possible and available by the wonderful devs. so you can flash as many of the roms you like. Once you see one that works good for you then go with it, that's what it all comes down to.

Nibert, Thanks i'll keep checking the post you mentioned.
Fazzmanic, not that i know for a fact that FRESH has issues with 4G. The only reason i said that is because there are at least 2 post in the ROM's thread from users who reported 4G not working... that's all.
ervman1, Does Fresh have that kernel you mentioned or you have to install that kernel after flashing the rom with Fresh?
bdelbenes, I like the HTC Sense myself. I've tried Open Home and Launcher Pro and they're cool yet I guess i used Sense at the beginning of me getting the phone so i got used to it.
Dougie2187, sorry for posting it on the wrong section but thanks to the Moderator who moved it to the correct forum. I have yet to flash my rom so i'm still on the factory 2.1 rom (rooted)... I guess i will do like most of you do and try one by one (well at least a few) till i find one that i like. I just wanted to make one choice and go with that instead of flashing my phone everyday LOL

WillJV said:
Nibert, Thanks i'll keep checking the post you mentioned.
Fazzmanic, not that i know for a fact that FRESH has issues with 4G. The only reason i said that is because there are at least 2 post in the ROM's thread from users who reported 4G not working... that's all.
ervman1, Does Fresh have that kernel you mentioned or you have to install that kernel after flashing the rom with Fresh?
bdelbenes, I like the HTC Sense myself. I've tried Open Home and Launcher Pro and they're cool yet I guess i used Sense at the beginning of me getting the phone so i got used to it.
Dougie2187, sorry for posting it on the wrong section but thanks to the Moderator who moved it to the correct forum. I have yet to flash my rom so i'm still on the factory 2.1 rom (rooted)... I guess i will do like most of you do and try one by one (well at least a few) till i find one that i like. I just wanted to make one choice and go with that instead of flashing my phone everyday LOL
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Nandroid backups help make this process a lot easier. Fresh was my rom of choice for a while, Bugless Beast is really good as well but isn't up to date. Damage Control is really good too. But I've been using Cyanogen because it's AOSP.
It all ends up being personal preference, but those are some I would try out. Basically, flash one, set it up 100% and back it up. Then use it for a day or so, and try another one. And continue this until you find one you like.

on fresh 0.53 and 1.01 i had a 4g reconnection issue that i couldn't seem to shake even after doing the posted fix. it all seems to be sorted out with 3.whatever. avalaunch is another rom i can confirm that all the relevent bits work on.
froyo roms in general have taken a giant step forward since the OTA. i'd recommend downloading titanium backup and getting yourself the donated version then just try out whatever looks interesting. titanium makes the process a lot less painful since you can restore all your apps with their data in a batch process.

[Q] I am trying to understand the ROM build process

Do any of the altered, tweaked ROMS gives all the specs that the phone has in its OEM version?
I have been running baked snack for a few weeks and I didn't realize HDMI didn't work until I tried it the other night. So then I started wondering what else I was missing.
So is there a ROM out there that hasn't lost functionality that the phones comes with in stock form?
I just did a Titanium backup and bought the clockwork ROM program so I could see what all the hype is with the Cyanogen mod. But with that ROM missing all the stuff I paid to have that my old phone didn't, 4g, HDMI I am sure it will be a short run.
But that is the beauty of these rooted phones then isn't it.
Anyways if someone knows of a complete ROM worth trying I'd like to know. I tried Fresh with the Manup theme and I kept getting hard locks\freezes that required pulling the battery.

PAPutzback said:
Do any of the altered, tweaked ROMS gives all the specs that the phone has in its OEM version?
I have been running baked snack for a few weeks and I didn't realize HDMI didn't work until I tried it the other night. So then I started wondering what else I was missing.
So is there a ROM out there that hasn't lost functionality that the phones comes with in stock form?
I just did a Titanium backup and bought the clockwork ROM program so I could see what all the hype is with the Cyanogen mod. But with that ROM missing all the stuff I paid to have that my old phone didn't, 4g, HDMI I am sure it will be a short run.
But that is the beauty of these rooted phones then isn't it.
Anyways if someone knows of a complete ROM worth trying I'd like to know. I tried Fresh with the Manup theme and I kept getting hard locks\freezes that required pulling the battery.
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If you're getting lockups you may be overclocking too high. I'm running Fresh 3.1.0.2 with King's #7 bfs right now. SetCpu is set at 998max/245min with Conservative scaling. Most phones cant clock past 1152 and I wouldnt recommend constant use of the Performance scaling profile. I havent tested HDMI and cant test 4G, but from what I've seen in the rom's thread, everything works. As far as I knew, CM6 was the only rom currently missing features.

see if this helps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
you may want to research the hdmi issue a bit more. i've read something about it having an issue...not sure if that was across the board or what. so far as i can tell the hdmi is a bit of a gimmick. it works but it's not right.
you did wipe and all that stuff right? cause they do help.
at least with a good nandroid, the purchased version of Titanium and Clockwork...you can test any ROM you want and revert back with ease.
good luck.

I have bought both and might try again tomorrow to check it out. I tried the CM6 rom and it just tied up my phone forever as it started reinstalling apps from the market.

[Q] Just un-rooted my EVO to apply 3.29 update... WHY ROOT NOW?

I feel bad but I just un-rooted my regaw_leinad rooted EVO using djR3Z method so I could apply the new update. I know there were other ways of doing it but it just seemed the more sensible way for a noob. I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways. I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use... I am still learning all about what is possible with root on Android, and until I find something totally mind blowing I think I'll keep stock.
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
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Just rooted again with unrEVOked 3.22 on Ubuntu 10.10.
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generalExpert said:
I feel bad but I just un-rooted my regaw_leinad rooted EVO using djR3Z method so I could apply the new update. I know there were other ways of doing it but it just seemed the more sensible way for a noob. I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways. I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use... I am still learning all about what is possible with root on Android, and until I find something totally mind blowing I think I'll keep stock.
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
Please list here.
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Custom ROMs are usually faster and have more features and customizations than the stock ROM. There are also tons of root-required apps that let you do crazy things to your phone like get free wireless hotspot, backup all of your apps with data and Market links, and change the apparent density of your display.

I'm somewhat of a noob and just made the switch.
WiFi tether
Remove some sprint apps
Custom boot animations
Like the above said, custom roms show a performance increase
Love the Quick Boot app
There are a bunch of threads around with more root apps you will most likely like.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

General, the benefit is freedom. if you waited a litttle bit you would already be able to flash the exact same rom rooted which is readily available. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
Good luck though.

Also, rooting takes like 2 seconds now that unrEVOked Forever is out.

A rooted phone nets you more options. There's no drawback to it. Why not?

generalExpert said:
I feel bad but I just un-rooted my regaw_leinad rooted EVO using djR3Z method so I could apply the new update. I know there were other ways of doing it but it just seemed the more sensible way for a noob. I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways. I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use... I am still learning all about what is possible with root on Android, and until I find something totally mind blowing I think I'll keep stock.
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
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Not everyone roots their phone - just the people here So, if you feel no need to root your phone, then don't.
I'm not a power user or speed freak so uncapping the fps isn't a big issue for me. I originally rooted my phone so I could use wireless tether. I'm staying rooted because I can play around with my phone a little more - change the boot animation (and turn off the sound), remove the Sprint apps that I don't use but that turn off automatically, and back up my apps and data and monitor my battery usage.
The custom roms are a quick way for me to accomplish my needs. I don't really like the Sense UI (which surprised me because I always though it was great-looking), so the roms give alternative ways to set up my phone.

Help with OTA
Hey guys. Okay I saw there is a update on xda. I'm using unrevoked3. Do I need to delete Unrevoked or just download the zip file that was released. I'm talking about about the deodexed and rooted.Im still lost on how where to put the updated file at? Please if anyone is in my boat and have had good results please tell me,im a noob,beginner,novice.
There is got to be someone who can explain in plain english lol..
Thanks everyone

Yes, I do feel crappy about it... I wish I was still rooted. I know the rooted update was available, but just thought that the OG update would run a bit better..?.. I guess I wanted to unroot to learn how among other things too. Believe it or not, doing that taught me a lot about hboot and recovery. At least I know I can always root again.
And YES, I HATE SENSE!!! But, I was reading on Cyanogen that CM6 had problems with the 4g and had a few bugs. But that vanilla android look is what I want!
Also, when non-rooted, is there no recovery? I clicked back into it just to check and it gave me a red exclamation mark over a phone...

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Custom ROMs are usually faster and have more features and customizations than the stock ROM. There are also tons of root-required apps that let you do crazy things to your phone like get free wireless hotspot, backup all of your apps with data and Market links, and change the apparent density of your display.
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Hey, thanks for the info... But along with all of the "Customness" and features aren't there also, bugs that go along with it? Like random reboots, and battery issues, and some other stuff?
Yes I love hacking stuff and know that this is all part of the fun, but I think I just need to research a little more. If you can't tell already I'm kind of paranoid about screwing things up. I rooted and really wanted to flash CM6 but didn't have the balls to. Maybe in a month or so i'll redo it.

generalExpert said:
Hey, thanks for the info... But along with all of the "Customness" and features aren't there also, bugs that go along with it? Like random reboots, and battery issues, and some other stuff?
Yes I love hacking stuff and know that this is all part of the fun, but I think I just need to research a little more. If you can't tell already I'm kind of paranoid about screwing things up. I rooted and really wanted to flash CM6 but didn't have the balls to. Maybe in a month or so i'll redo it.
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Most of the custom ROMs are very stable and have better battery life than the stock ROM. As long as you make a nandroid backup there is ZERO risk to flashing a new ROM (assuming you don't like pull the battery out while flashing or something), so you can try one out for a few hours, and if you don't like it you can instantly go back to what you had before. Simple as pie. Give the major ones a whirl and see what you like. I know that there are some HTC ROMs themed to look like CM6 that have working 4G.

I also avoid cm6 because of the lack of 4g. Instead I use Vaelpak because it has minimal sense but enough so I can have my 4g. I'm thinking of trying Virus' mostly senseless rom.
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generalExpert said:
But that vanilla android look is what I want!
Also, when non-rooted, is there no recovery? I clicked back into it just to check and it gave me a red exclamation mark over a phone...
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When you mention the vanilla android look, what exactly are you referring to?
Is it the Vanilla theme and icons? -De-Odex roms would allow for custom themes that give the vanilla android look i.e. MrPuffin's Vanilla AOSP and Vanilla theme for Sense UI
Is it the android launcher? -Launcher Pro and ADW launcher are quite nice replacements to the Sense launcher
I'd think that if you didn't like the HTC Sense look, you would have kept root and just themed your phone to look Vanilla. Then again, it all comes down to what you believe provides the best user experience.
And regarding recovery, I believe Clockwork and Amon Ra require root.

mizzos4 said:
When you mention the vanilla android look, what exactly are you referring to?
Is it the Vanilla theme and icons? -De-Odex roms would allow for custom themes that give the vanilla android look i.e. MrPuffin's Vanilla AOSP and Vanilla theme for Sense UI
Is it the android launcher? -Launcher Pro and ADW launcher are quite nice replacements to the Sense launcher
I'd think that if you didn't like the HTC Sense look, you would have kept root and just themed your phone to look Vanilla. Then again, it all comes down to what you believe provides the best user experience.
And regarding recovery, I believe Clockwork and Amon Ra require root.
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Yes, by Vanilla Android i'm talkin Nexus One. Those themes look pretty good though. I'm already jonsen for root again and it's only been a half day.
Launcher Pro? Doesn't that just overlay Sense and therefore cause a bit of a slow down, use more memory, and possibly more battery. (probably not noticeable though..)
Yes, Clockwork and Amon_Ra require root. I was just wondering if there was a recovery in NON-ROOTED. When I'm in a non-rooted EVO at hboot, and select Recovery I get that red Exclamation mark over the phone and have to pull the battery.
Thanks for all your help!

Whoa thr new kernel allows up to 53 fps but std is 8+... on netarchys' kernel it was about 54 - 56 with a std of 4... at least that is how it behaves on mine.
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halorin said:
A rooted phone nets you more options. There's no drawback to it. Why not?
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there may be security drawbacks to those that are not cautious with the apps they install.
generalExpert said:
I feel bad but I just un-rooted my <EvO>.
I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways.
I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
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- why feel bad?
- if the next statement is true, then the FPS cap must not have been an issue; else you would have done a google search on the issue and corrected it.
- if this statement is true, why feel bad?
- i dont find the need for so many custom ROMs (not like back when i was running on WinMo6). once you have 'root', adding/removing apps is straightforward and most of the ROMs are just a "here is my theme and apps, it's built on someone else who did the low level tweaking". custom ROM just makes it easier to get closer to what YOU want for an applist and themelayout. i like cm6 and dont' like theme's so life is easy for me.
- CM6 is AOSP. this means they will not use propriarty code (like Sense). for the EVO it also means the 4G radio software has to be written from scratch since there is no opensource 4G stuff to use yet. if you pick a Sense based rom (ie: anythign that doesn't refer to itself as CM6 or AOSP based).
Note: AOSP Like means that it is a Sense based ROM but it's been made to look/act similar to the CM6 or AOSP ROMs. 4G and Radio and such should work normally.
enjoy the free time associated with being Root-less.

Well, I'm re-rooted. Used the unrEVOked method. It was just so easy, there was no reason not to. Really want to get on cyanogen but waiting for the 4g.
sent from my bad-ass EVO!