Did my little brother brick his Evo? v.OTA - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

He ran the original OTA update the day before yesterday, he didn't run it twice like everyone else that had issues.. He's not bricked in the "won't power on or boot" sense of the term, it WILL boot up. But it's pretty much completely unusable, it keeps trying to remove and install widgets on its own, the touch screen does the opposite of whatever he touches, swiping between screens hangs and sits in between each screen, it keeps opening the htc weather widget and won't let you back out of it.. voice search keeps popping up randomly. It tries to install the htc coin flip widget, a lot. It basically takes 5 to 10 tries to get anything to work right, and when something does work right it's only for a minute.
He wasn't rooted in any way, and he tried doing a factory restore through the settings menu, as well as formatting the sd card.
Radio shack has no eta on a replacement and sprint says to just return the phone and get a different kind of phone if they are out of evo's (seriously..? wtf).
You guys are smart, is there anything he can do to try and troubleshoot this?

there currently isnt a way to root after the ota update, so the suggestion to try some cooked roms is out the window.
i dont want to be the bearer of bad news, but it doesnt look good.

I think he can try restoring to factory.
Download this:
http://www.joeyconway.me/evo/stock/...Radio_1.39.00.05.31_release_171253_signed.zip
Rename it PC36IMG.zip and put it on the root of the SD card.
Turn off the phone, hold volume down and turn it on, it should boot into hboot, sort of a factory recovery
It will automatically detect the zip file and ask if you want to apply it. Select yes, and it should restore to factory.
If you continue to have problems, then there is probably something wrong with the phone and it'll need to be returned.
Hope this helps!

Could this in anyway void my warrenty or make sprint un-willing to give me a new phone/ repair my phone if this fix does not work?

if that is stock, they would not be able to find out even if it further messed up the phone by attempting that method
...err taking a look, if he has the newest ota, then I am not sure if that link will work because it is a lower version. you would need to find the one that is for 1.47...
I am not even sure if that would work, but hey it is worth a shot if the phone doesnt work already

Use this ruu
It'll bring you back to stock with the latest OTA included.

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[q] (help!!)calling the geniuses of xda. I need your help(yes, another bricked phone)

So I flashed the Deodexed version of the new stock 3.70 ROM this weekend and it re-booted with no problem. I played with it for a few minutes, and then went back into Recovery using CWM and flashed the Radio/WiMax combo and it flashed unusually quick. The on screen message then prompted me to Re-boot to complete initialization or something to that effect. So then I re-boot and it takes a second for the screen to shut off like usual and then where it normally brings up my splash screen it brings up the little cigarette looking box with the arrow pointing towards the Android guy standing outside the box and the RED TRIANGLE image. I didn't panic and did a battery pull as I have had this happen once before. I put the battery back in and try to power on and the same image pops up. I did a battery pull again and tried to turn on the device in Hboot mode and then something bad happened, the same image popped up again. FML. I have waited 24 hours and attempted to go back into HBoot and the same thing happens over and over. I downloaded both the ROM and the radio/wimax file from my phone, but I did notice the Radio/Max file downloaded unusually quick ( Bad download maybe???) and I also performed a NANDROID back up but without being able to access my HBOOT, it's pretty much useless to me. Needless to say, I am currently the owner of a $500 dollar paper weight ( A very nice one might I add). I do have insurance and can make a claim if need be. But I would really like to avoid having to pay the deductible if at all possible. I have used these forums religiously and am now hoping that some kind soul might be able to save me from the depths of BRICKED EVO HELL. Any links to a guide or input on correcting the problem would be greatly and absolutely appreciated. Or if you just want to be brutally honest and tell me my EVO is doomed from now until eternity I would appreciate it also... Thanks for reading if you made it this far and I anxiously await any and all responses
Well hopefully u didnt screw up the phone by pulling the battery put that sign with the arrow pointing down is just writting the new radio down on the phone just let it set for awhile takes a good 5 min the most
Have you tried to boot up the phone without the SD card?
Edit:
Sorry for the short response but I said that because I believe that the CWM recovery is stored on the SD card or at least part of it. Maybe that'll work. If not I'll try and think of something else.
WOW... SMH
Words can not express how much of an idiot I feel like right now. I have never flashed a radio and did not realize that image was indicating writing of the radio. If I just bricked my phone because my dumb ass didn't do it right... I have flashed countless times and always made sure to feel comfortable before doing so and now this happens. My phone is in my car and im here at work. Do you think I should just power on the device and let it sit there at that image or what? I hope pulling the battery in the middle of instillation didn't brick it forever. Damn, I am so pissed at my self its not even funny
Try that. If that doesn't work maybe you can have someone upload the files you need to place on your SD card for CWM. You can pop out your SD card and place it into a reader/laptop and delete the ClockWork folder and replace with the new files.
Hopefully someone with more knowledge can lend their expertise but that's just some things I would try if I were in your situation.
My guess is that you can turn it on but it probably won't do anything because you popped the battery out mid cycle instead of waiting. Hopefully it picks up from where the installation left off but I doubt it.
::: By doing that you'll delete your backup so I'd recommend placing that file somewhere on your computer :::
Pimp. I had the same thing happen to me, I flash the newest 3.70 update and it change everything and I could not go back to my old nandroid so, all I did was flash the sprint lovers with the 3.30 update. It cames with evrythign you need. I hope that this helps you. Put this on the root of the sd card and than press the - volume button and the power button, the phone will look for the pcm36img.zip.and update.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D454VSVN
whooo...(huge sigh of relief sound)
So pretty sure I just took a smoke break and went and got my phone. Turned it on, let it sit there for about three minutes, it went through two boot loops ( I was biting my nails ) and then it finally booted up into the new stock ROM ( Thank god ). Thanks for everyone's responses as I had no idea that image was indicating a process on the phone and I thought it was an error message. But you live and you learn, I will try to delete this thread so it doesn't take up any more space. Or maybe leave it up in case someone has a similar problem.. Either way, whatever the moderators want is fine by me... Thanks again a million...
You very likly screwed up your RSA keys for 4g. That happened to me when I pulled the bat as it was writing the radio.
Only way to get those back is via nandroid restore (and hope you have amanra 1.8)
DAMN
You are correct my friend. Everything is fully functional but 4G and I dont use Amon RA, im a ClockWork man. It keeps saying scanning, connecting to sprint, and where it normally says obtaining IP address it just starts saying scanning again. It does this over and over until I turn 4G off. Should I just re-flash the radio/wimax .zip or what? Any links to a guide would be greatly appreciated. So looks like my phone isn't bricked but 4G is broken, so goes the life of a MODDER... SMH
Through adb shell check /data/misc/wimax and do an ls there.
If it is creating a file called 0016......tree.xml, basically a number other than your wimax MAC address (located under battery on sticker) then you have the same problem I did.
There is a thread on XDA that allows you to verify your wimac MAC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715525
Basically, I deleted the *.tree.xml files that were in my /data/misc/wimax
I did the fastboot process and corrected my wimax MAC.
After I did that, and I verified that it was correct by rebooting phone and turning on 4g. This created a new file in /data/misc/wimax that was my actual MAC address.
It was still stuck scanning. Looking at logcat I saw that the RSA keys were invalid.
Luckily I had a backup of a past rom where 4g was working. Amonra 1.8 includes the wimax partition and gets your RSA keys. I don't know if clocks does that.
I restored that backup, booted up and 4g would connect and work.

[Q] Phone Bricked. Please help!

Okay, so I was unrooting my droid incredible and it brought it to stock 2.1 i was trying to install the update.zip to update it to 2.2, but it wasnt working...so i tried installing the 2.2 RUU onto it...and now when i try to turn on my phone it always boots into the Bootloader...what should i do?
Note: LED charging light still comes on, and i can still go into recovery(stock recovery though since my phone is no longer rooted)
If theres no way to fix it, can i just play dumb and tell verizon its not starting up, because doesnt HTC have to reflash everything anyway for security purposes....the only downside though is they would probably send me an SLCD Incredible
First and foremost, your phone is not bricked... not even close.
Simply try reinstalling the 2.1 RUU. Being that it's signed by HTC, you should be able to do what you need to in the stock recoveryThat being said, your update.zip probably failed because your phone was restored to a state prior to the May OTA. Without being at the correct software version, you cannot use the update.zip to install Froyo.
If you get the bootloader, you should be ok. I think the zip has to be on the root of the SD and named update.zip for the stock recovery.
Sent from my DInc
Look in the android development forum for "the ultimate back to stock thread". download the "PB31IMGxxxxx" file there, rename it to just PB31IMG.zip and put it on the root of your sd card. Go into the bootloader and let it run the update. This will bring you back to a 2.2 stock. From there you can re-root and do whatever else you like.
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Okay, well it was the get back to stock thread that i followed...and i know that i was trying to do the update.zip from a version of android that was too old, because i was the one who posted a thread a few months back with the update.zip in it. However, i was obviously stupid enough to not save teh "May" OTA and now the link is dead. Some people were reporting however that it still worked without it, so i wanted to see for myself.
In any case, it seems that a 5 hour battery pull seemed to do the trick, go figure. Can someone explain to me what a battery pull on this kind of stuff makes a difference and why the length of time sometimes makes a difference as well?

[Q] Evo bricked ?

I'm hoping I did not brick this thing because I literally just got it replaced because of screen issues and a blown speaker and broken usb port. Anyway, got the replacement home and wasted no time to use unrevoked 3 on it. Worked great. installed Fresh Evo Rom 4, installed perfect. Tested - working fine. Then I tried installing the Radio, Wimax, NV, and PRI updates. Radio and Wimax installed correctly. Went to install the NV and PRI updates and it just said installation aborted ( I was driving to pick up dinner for the family so I just let it run for a few minutes then checked on it). I then decided to just restart and start putting in my contacts and stuff. It restarted to a screen with a box and what looks like a droid jumping out of it. Removed the battery and tried again after a minute or so, same thing. Tried the VOL - and Power method to boot into Hboot, same screen. Removed my SD card per some instructions on here , same screen. Replaced the battery with another one I had per some people getting the same issue here , same thing. Frustrated I ate dinner and came back to it. Now it wont turn on at all. No charging LED light at all. Tried both batteries, one red and one black, no go. Doesnt boot at all and doesnt look like its charging. Am I royally f*kt ? Anyone have any ideas for me to try ?
From what you said...yes....I guess its time to plead ignorance and get another replacement
Sent from my nightly EVO
So what went wrong ? I've done this same method about 6 other times with my previous phone and friends phones with absolutely no problems. Any insight so this doesn't happen again ? I'm on my way through traffic to a sprint store to pick up another one and want to root it but not brick this guy too.
My guess would be that it was either interrupted or a bad install...I really couldn't tell you though
Sent from my nightly EVO
tayden812 said:
I'm hoping I did not brick this thing because I literally just got it replaced because of screen issues and a blown speaker and broken usb port. Anyway, got the replacement home and wasted no time to use unrevoked 3 on it. Worked great. installed Fresh Evo Rom 4, installed perfect. Tested - working fine. Then I tried installing the Radio, Wimax, NV, and PRI updates. Radio and Wimax installed correctly. Went to install the NV and PRI updates and it just said installation aborted ( I was driving to pick up dinner for the family so I just let it run for a few minutes then checked on it). I then decided to just restart and start putting in my contacts and stuff. It restarted to a screen with a box and what looks like a droid jumping out of it. Removed the battery and tried again after a minute or so, same thing. Tried the VOL - and Power method to boot into Hboot, same screen. Removed my SD card per some instructions on here , same screen. Replaced the battery with another one I had per some people getting the same issue here , same thing. Frustrated I ate dinner and came back to it. Now it wont turn on at all. No charging LED light at all. Tried both batteries, one red and one black, no go. Doesnt boot at all and doesnt look like its charging. Am I royally f*kt ? Anyone have any ideas for me to try ?
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Whenever you flash a radio, NV, or PRI or something like that, when you first flash it, it then tells you that you need to reboot to complete the installation. When it reboots, you will see that odd screen, which will either be an arrow facing down with a phone, an arrow with a box, or some kind of a droid guy with a box or something. That is very important to not pull the battery during that phase (it's when it's actually writing the radio, or pri, or whatever), otherwise a brick is the result, 99% of the time. Never pull the battery during any kind of a radio flash whatsoever. As far as why it told you that the installation was aborted, I've got no idea on that one. Maybe the file you were trying to flash was corrupted, or something to that nature.
If you're sure the battery is charged up, yet you get no LED light when the phone is powered down and plugged in, the phone won't boot to the bootloader, and seems completely unresponsive, then you are most likely indeed bricked. Sorry for the bad news. Don't pull the battery during any kind of a flash, especially a radio, pri, wimax, hboot, recovery flash etc. Battery pull during flashing of important things = bad idea.
EDIT: after thinking about it for a few minutes, after you updated your radio and wimax (which you said updated successfully), did you complete the installation by rebooting? After you flashed the radio, did you reboot, and see the black screen with an arrow coming out of a box, or something like that (that screen varies based upon your hboot version or recovery version)? If not, and you just tried flashing all of them, one after the other, without rebooting inbetween each one...then that may be why the installation of the pri aborted. Then when you went to reboot, it tried to finish the installation of the radio and wimax (which if you didnt reboot initially after selecting to flash, those installations would not have been complete, so as soon as you tried to reboot, it'd have tried to finish writing the radio image, which appears to be where you pulled the battery out)
If I remember right, that screen is part of the radio update. After it flashes, when you reboot you will see that screen. You're supposed to wait until it finishes and it should send you back to the recovery screen. After that you can reboot into the rom.
I'm scratching my head though because you said the installation aborted. Maybe part of it flashed successfully but the rest didn't?
EDIT: Didn't see that the radio flashed successfully. If you can still get to that screen, letting it run it's course should eventually solve the problem.
EDIT 2: K2buckley beat me to the punch. At least I know I was right and not giving you wrong info. Sometimes it takes pulling the battery 20 or so times to actually brick the phone, so hopefully you can still recover.
My Evo + xda Premium App = This post.
Thanx for the quick responses. After the radio and wimax update it went back to the install from zip screen in clockwork. From there I ran the other update. I let it sit on that installation aborted screen as I was driving. I ran in , grabbed dinner, came back within 5 minutes and it was still on that screen. Thats when I figured I'd just put contacts and stuff after I remove the battery. Still didnt work. If I indeed "bricked" this phone, is there any way ANYONE can fix it ? HTC or otherwise ? BTW - I already bought a new phone. Just scared to root and stuff now. I mainly want root to put in ROMS that have better battery life. Although now I have 3 batteries for it because of this brick lol.
tayden812 said:
Thanx for the quick responses. After the radio and wimax update it went back to the install from zip screen in clockwork. From there I ran the other update. I let it sit on that installation aborted screen as I was driving. I ran in , grabbed dinner, came back within 5 minutes and it was still on that screen. Thats when I figured I'd just put contacts and stuff after I remove the battery. Still didnt work. If I indeed "bricked" this phone, is there any way ANYONE can fix it ? HTC or otherwise ? BTW - I already bought a new phone. Just scared to root and stuff now. I mainly want root to put in ROMS that have better battery life. Although now I have 3 batteries for it because of this brick lol.
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Unfortunately, if its bricked there's nothing that can be done. Since it doesn't turn on, sprint wont be able to tell it was rooted. Just be sure your SD card is "clean", and take it to sprint. See what they say about it. I'd just tell them it wont turn on. Still under 1 yr warranty...
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Great idea. Never even crossed my mind to take it back. I know if they know its rooted they wont touch it which is why I was hesitant to take it back. I'm gonna try that tomorrow, thanks.
BTW - Any suggestions as to a ROM and kernel for absolutely the best battery life without sacrificing any of the Evo's stock options ?
Again, thanks for all the help guys.

HTC EVO stuck in BAD boot loop.. need HELP

I had cyanogenmod 7 installed on my EVO and one day my phone just turned itself off. This time it will only boot up to the white HTC EVO screen then power itself back off and continue to cycle. I loaded into bootloader and tried to go into recovery. As soon as I select recovery it goes right back to the white screen and continues to loop. I tried to clear storage and recieved the same results. I searched a tone online and tried to find a resolution. As far as I can get is install the boot interface driver and HBOOT USB the phone. All root programs get stuck at the "waiting for device". Any help would be much appreciated.
Drake13 said:
I had cyanogenmod 7 installed on my EVO and one day my phone just turned itself off. This time it will only boot up to the white HTC EVO screen then power itself back off and continue to cycle. I loaded into bootloader and tried to go into recovery. As soon as I select recovery it goes right back to the white screen and continues to loop. I tried to clear storage and recieved the same results. I searched a tone online and tried to find a resolution. As far as I can get is install the boot interface driver and HBOOT USB the phone. All root programs get stuck at the "waiting for device". Any help would be much appreciated.
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sorry but you're pretty much S O L on this, has something to do with a bad boot.img and you can't get it to take another one might as well file a lost phone claim and pay the $100 and get a new one thats what i had to do and they just happened to have sent me the 3d instead so i guess i got a bit lucky.
i still have my evo 4g and still working on it but its been about a month and i haven't had any luck with it.
Sounds like you have no recovery or not completely rooted. You could try to put a recovery CWM or Amon-Ra file renamed PC36IMG.zip onto your sd card from your computer, put card back into phone then go in to hboot see if it will flash you a recovery then try to go into it
If that doesn't work search for a stock ruu file for the Evo, rename PC36IMG.zip, place on your card, put card back in phone, flash through hboot. This will return your phone to stock unrooted, then you try the process again
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
That's what happened to my phone also..It just happened out of nowhere..
I tried everything and in the end I had to file an insurance claim.
And once again, a phone running CM7 goes into this mysterious unfixable bootloop.
What is up with that?
What is up with that, I'm about to remove this rom its not really all that. Its already messed up my keyboard, sometimes I have to take the battery out just to restart it.
I Loved CM7 when I had it, but then i started seeing all these bootloop issues start up in the early part of Summer, and I refuse to put it back on. Sorry to those that dev and support it, but seriously, out of all the cases on here, and there have been a bunch, only one was on a phone that didn't have CM7 on it.
HipKat said:
I Loved CM7 when I had it, but then i started seeing all these bootloop issues start up in the early part of Summer, and I refuse to put it back on. Sorry to those that dev and support it, but seriously, out of all the cases on here, and there have been a bunch, only one was on a phone that didn't have CM7 on it.
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Most of those phones from the 'CM Scare" had bad nand blocks, and it had to be replaced. They had them frothe very beginning, but just decided to act up then. It also happen to some users using MIUI.
Okay my speaker got distorted so I decided to unrooted to take it in for service. Now the phone is unrooted but theres only one problem! Now the phone will boot up to the normal home screen but within 2 to five minutes, it shuts itself down and boot back up to home screen again and the cycle starts again. I have reset few times but same ting' happens. Now sprint is ordering a new phone for me hope its not the 3D i don't think I like it. So now I have my evo still but will give it to sprint once my new phone is in at the sprint store tuesday! Oh by the way, beside the speaker problem the phone was working fine as normal before the unrooting. thx
teh roxxorz said:
t also happen to some users using MIUI.
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No! Don't say that!!
tony_2018 said:
What is up with that, I'm about to remove this rom its not really all that. Its already messed up my keyboard, sometimes I have to take the battery out just to restart it.
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I've been using CM for about a year and NEVER had either of those two problems. There has to be an issue with something else you've loaded onto the phone that isn't playing nice.
Concordium said:
I've been using CM for about a year and NEVER had either of those two problems. There has to be an issue with something else you've loaded onto the phone that isn't playing nice.
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No one ever said every install of CM7 will lead to this bootloop, but almost every case of this bootloop, the user was running CM7
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No! Don't say that!!
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Miui is based of cm's fixes and what not right?
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702
No, MIUI is not based on CM. It's a completely different ROM
Yeah but I'm pretty sure they use their fixes since its a port
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702
It's true that most of the cases happened on CM7, but from what I understand it can happen on any rom... and has happened on Sense and AOSP.
There's no known fix. You can try to RUU, but even if the RUU flashes properly, the phone will never boot. You're eternally stuck with hboot/fastboot. File an insurance claim, that's about all you can do. I had a similar problem with a stock, never-been-rooted Evo. I got a replacement through insurance without paying the deductible, but I was s-on.
Hopefully I don't get slammed for suggesting this, but if you don't want to pay the deductible for a "lost" phone, you can flash a radio through hboot and pull the battery. If you do it at the right time, the phone will completely brick and never turn on again. It may take a few tries. Then you can take it in and you shouldn't have to pay the deductible, as long as you play dumb of course.
I think this happens due to bad nand blocks on your boot partition, so the main cause is hardware. Something in the rom triggers the never-ending splashscreen bootloop (I'm assuming something related to the boot.img). I could be entirely wrong about this though.
You can't live in fear, if it happens it happens. It's one of the risks you take when rooting and flashing. The number of cases is small compared to the number of people with rooted Evos, especially considering only a portion of people are active on this site, and a lot of the reports come from members that wouldn't post or even be a member if they didn't have the problem. I wouldn't let the possibility deter you from running whatever rom you want.
Sent from my Evo + MIUI using Tapatalk!
I myself am stuck with same issue. Nothing takes. So where does hboot reside when loaded? I also have looked in vain for diagnostic flashes....
Now one thing I noticed is that I installed PDAnet and it shows it installed an app to the phone, however I cant connect. I think cause I cant boot the phone and enable what it telling me to...so how is it this software can load an apk and I cant?
Overall, I am now however learning and it has become a hobby.
Theres an answer somewhere I would think. Thinking maybe its time to tear apart and look for jtag points....
I have had this happen to me a few times, I leave the RUU on the sd card and when this happens and do what bimmerman7 wrote on the first page. This has always worked for me when I get stuck in a bootloop when trying to access recovery.

[Q] Completed Factory Reset (MIUI) and SDCard format and now soft-bricked!

Hey folks,
Thanks for taking the time to read/assist. I don't typically do these kinds of posts and am at my wit's end!
Phone's Previous Setup - MIUI Gingerbread, Rooted (but with S-ON after the fact).
What happened:
My HTC Incredible finally got to the point of being practically unuseable with laggy behavior and random restarts and the like, so I decided to complete a reset to factory settings or wipe.
I completed my backups using Titanium (apps) and ClockworkMod Recovery (full backup). After this, I went ahead and opened up Settings and directed the phone to complete a Reset to Factory Settings. It ran through the process, rebooted, and came up jelly. While no custom apps were installed (expected), my folder settings on my main home page were saved, along with some previous text messages. I was pleasantly surprised.
From here, I wished to wipe the SD Card so as to make sure it was clean of any residual folders/files that might cause conflict down the road (based on advice from others). So, headed to the SD card part of the settings. Had to unmount the SD card to format, proceeded to do so.
Here's where things went wonky: Despite receiving a confirmation that the SD card format had proceeded, nothing else ever happened. I attempted to mount the card again w/o luck (kept getting a msg that it was now unmounted). Eventually, I decided to go ahead and restart the phone and see if that helps. Big mistake.
From this point forward, the phone refuses to fully start up into any Android ROM. Initially, it hung on the white HTC Incredible splash screen (yes, even w/ giving it an hour+ of time). I tried wiping and reflashing different ROMS over the period of the day yesterday to no avail.
Doing a full recovery via ClockworkMod (from my backup that I made before and copied back onto the SD card via USB) leaves me stuck on the HTC Incredible white splash screen.
MIUI - 2.2.10
Hangs on white splash screen
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed
MIUI - 2.2.17
Loads past white and MIUI splash screens
Instead of loading into Android homescreen, immediately loads up "Encryption" error and directs to "reset phone."
Repeated restart and attempts of resetting phone don't work
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
MIUI - 1.12.9
Hangs on white splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 7.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 6.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
I looked into HBOOT options, getting PB31IMG.ZIP and PG86IMG.ZIP.img thinking maybe I could try reverting to stock at a friend's suggestion. HBOOT sees the files and "checks" them, even briefly showing a small vertical blue loading bar at the top-right corner, but never attempts to run/update them as I am lead to expect from all the instructions/encounters I've found on the net suggest. The screen info flashes by so quickly, I can barely read it, but I confirmed that it said "checking" and not updating or such. x.x
I considered trying to flash an updated copy of ClockworkMod Recovery, but I cannot do that w/o being able to load up the phone into Android.
I cannot run anything desktop-side, like ADB, as they all require the phone started up and put into USB-debugging mode.
I've looked into and tried all this and more, but nothing seems to be working.
My next idea is to try to forcibly downgrade the phone. Reasoning being that I read that the HBOOT will not try to update if it senses that the ROM is newer than its default settings(?). So, I need a good choice of "old" ROM that I can attempt to install via the HBOOT or CWM Recovery, and verify I have the correct files for HBOOT to try updating/running.
Again, this is a speculative attempt, but I'm willing to try whatever might work! Otherwise, I've got a fancy brick and my well-being on the line w/ no $$ to replace the phone. x.x
Thanks again for reading and hopefully offering some wonderful assistance! Sorry it's so long!
Feel free to ask Qs if you need clarification on stuff.
wigmuke said:
Hey folks,
Thanks for taking the time to read/assist. I don't typically do these kinds of posts and am at my wit's end!
Phone's Previous Setup - MIUI Gingerbread, Rooted (but with S-ON after the fact).
What happened:
My HTC Incredible finally got to the point of being practically unuseable with laggy behavior and random restarts and the like, so I decided to complete a reset to factory settings or wipe.
I completed my backups using Titanium (apps) and ClockworkMod Recovery (full backup). After this, I went ahead and opened up Settings and directed the phone to complete a Reset to Factory Settings. It ran through the process, rebooted, and came up jelly. While no custom apps were installed (expected), my folder settings on my main home page were saved, along with some previous text messages. I was pleasantly surprised.
From here, I wished to wipe the SD Card so as to make sure it was clean of any residual folders/files that might cause conflict down the road (based on advice from others). So, headed to the SD card part of the settings. Had to unmount the SD card to format, proceeded to do so.
Here's where things went wonky: Despite receiving a confirmation that the SD card format had proceeded, nothing else ever happened. I attempted to mount the card again w/o luck (kept getting a msg that it was now unmounted). Eventually, I decided to go ahead and restart the phone and see if that helps. Big mistake.
From this point forward, the phone refuses to fully start up into any Android ROM. Initially, it hung on the white HTC Incredible splash screen (yes, even w/ giving it an hour+ of time). I tried wiping and reflashing different ROMS over the period of the day yesterday to no avail.
Doing a full recovery via ClockworkMod (from my backup that I made before and copied back onto the SD card via USB) leaves me stuck on the HTC Incredible white splash screen.
MIUI - 2.2.10
Hangs on white splash screen
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed
MIUI - 2.2.17
Loads past white and MIUI splash screens
Instead of loading into Android homescreen, immediately loads up "Encryption" error and directs to "reset phone."
Repeated restart and attempts of resetting phone don't work
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
MIUI - 1.12.9
Hangs on white splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 7.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
CM - 6.1.0
Hangs/loops on CM splash screen.
No go w/ or w/o SD card installed.
I looked into HBOOT options, getting PB31IMG.ZIP and PG86IMG.ZIP.img thinking maybe I could try reverting to stock at a friend's suggestion. HBOOT sees the files and "checks" them, even briefly showing a small vertical blue loading bar at the top-right corner, but never attempts to run/update them as I am lead to expect from all the instructions/encounters I've found on the net suggest. The screen info flashes by so quickly, I can barely read it, but I confirmed that it said "checking" and not updating or such. x.x
I considered trying to flash an updated copy of ClockworkMod Recovery, but I cannot do that w/o being able to load up the phone into Android.
I cannot run anything desktop-side, like ADB, as they all require the phone started up and put into USB-debugging mode.
I've looked into and tried all this and more, but nothing seems to be working.
My next idea is to try to forcibly downgrade the phone. Reasoning being that I read that the HBOOT will not try to update if it senses that the ROM is newer than its default settings(?). So, I need a good choice of "old" ROM that I can attempt to install via the HBOOT or CWM Recovery, and verify I have the correct files for HBOOT to try updating/running.
Again, this is a speculative attempt, but I'm willing to try whatever might work! Otherwise, I've got a fancy brick and my well-being on the line w/ no $$ to replace it. x.x
Thanks again for reading and hopefully offering some wonderful assistance! Sorry it's so long!
Feel free to ask Qs if you need clarification on stuff.
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You need to gain s-off again before flashing with clockwork. How come you turned it back on?
"In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag."
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gain s=off boot into CMW wipe data, and factory reset. Flash a new rom of your choice and then boot. should get you back to a working phone.
synisterwolf said:
You need to gain s-off again before flashing with clockwork. How come you turned it back on?
"In a nutshell, S-OFF means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. The default setting for HTC’s devices is S-ON, which means that neither can you access certain areas of the system nor can you guarantee a permanent root. Furthermore, signature check for firmware images is also ensured by the S-ON flag."
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gain s=off boot into CMW wipe data, and factory reset. Flash a new rom of your choice and then boot. should get you back to a working phone.
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The first time my phone was rooted/flashed, my bf did it for me. He used Unrevoked to root it and install CWM Recovery (v2.5.1.2 presently). I recall conversation being that having S-On would be better security with regards to the cell carrier (e.g., good to leave on, bad if off as they can see you rooted). So I agreed to having it put back to S-On, which I understood he then took care of.
Fast-forward a year and he now tells me he didn't actually end up running the other Unrevoked (Forever) tool to put S-On back in place, but that it simply *was*, so he left it that way. o.o;
Keep in mind, I've flashed 3 different ROMs since he originally rooted and flashed, w/o issues.
I pulled up everything to try re-rooting it again (to gain S-Off), but the instructions required having the phone loaded up and in debugging mode, which I cannot do as I cannot start up the phone past recovery in the first place.
Did I miss something that allows it via recovery? Going to check again in the meantime.
wigmuke said:
The first time my phone was rooted/flashed, my bf did it for me. He used Unrevoked to root it and install CWM Recovery (v2.5.1.2 presently). I recall conversation being that having S-On would be better security with regards to the cell carrier (e.g., good to leave on, bad if off as they can see you rooted). So I agreed to having it put back to S-On, which I understood he then took care of.
Fast-forward a year and he now tells me he didn't actually end up running the other Unrevoked (Forever) tool to put S-On back in place, but that it simply *was*, so he left it that way. o.o;
Keep in mind, I've flashed 3 different ROMs since he originally rooted and flashed, w/o issues.
I pulled up everything to try re-rooting it again (to gain S-Off), but the instructions required having the phone loaded up and in debugging mode, which I cannot do as I cannot start up the phone past recovery in the first place.
Did I miss something that allows it via recovery? Going to check again in the meantime.
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actually its better to keep it s=off so this type of situation wont happen. Your carrier cant see your hboot from my understanding on how this phone works. They dont care if you have root or not, unless you are trying to exchange the phone for another one from them or for insurance reasons. With root you only void your warranty on the phone and not your contract or anything to do with VZW. S=off is just a NAND lock, meaning you cant add your own custom recover to the phone, and you are limited to builds that come from VZW themselves (ie the security signature check).
If you ever want to take the phone back to them because its defective or call insurance then you need to remove root and S=on. but thats the only time you need to toggle the NAND lock.
ok so you will need to ruu to stock, downgrade then gain s=off over again:
for the ruu for GB:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227279
a guide to do this all after you ruu:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
OMG I may've gotten it!
So I decided to give things another go with attempting to revert to stock again, as at this point, nothing is going to work other than via HBOOT.
I completed another reformat of the SD Card (Fat32) to be on the overcautious side and copied over ONLY the PB32IMG.zip file and restarted into HBOOT.
(Ah.. new user, so not allowed to post the link of where I got it.)
This time, much like before, it scanned, found the file, and did a parsing/loading. However, THIS TIME it actually prompted me to update! I chose yes (Vol+) and let it do its thing.
At this time, I am happy to announce that it actually is back up stock!
Wooohoo! Now to get it back to how I like it again. XD
If nothing else, hope this information helps someone else later on.
wigmuke said:
OMG I may've gotten it!
So I decided to give things another go with attempting to revert to stock again, as at this point, nothing is going to work other than via HBOOT.
I completed another reformat of the SD Card (Fat32) to be on the overcautious side and copied over ONLY the PB32IMG.zip file and restarted into HBOOT.
(Ah.. new user, so not allowed to post the link of where I got it.)
This time, much like before, it scanned, found the file, and did a parsing/loading. However, THIS TIME it actually prompted me to update! I chose yes (Vol+) and let it do its thing.
At this time, I am happy to announce that it actually is back up stock!
Wooohoo! Now to get it back to how I like it again. XD
If nothing else, hope this information helps someone else later on.
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You might have lost root if you did the ruu from hboot. to check download the app "super user" from market that will tell you if you still have root or not.
Alright, now that I'm back to stock and runnin' smoothly, I need to figure out what route to take for rooting and flashing. Everyone talks about Unrevoked3, but I've heard there're other newer tools, too.
What would you recommend?
....also, sorry for the weird delay/disjointed/incomplete responses. I keep forgetting that XDA severely limits my posting capabilities. I wanted to say super thanks wolf, for all your help and sticking with me! Your input is appreciated. And yes, I'm pretty sure I lost all root, etc. It is back to "out-of-the-box" stock as far as I can tell.
wigmuke said:
Alright, now that I'm back to stock and runnin' smoothly, I need to figure out what route to take for rooting and flashing. Everyone talks about Unrevoked3, but I've heard there're other newer tools, too.
What would you all recommend?
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unrevoked3 is the easiest way. but you will need to downgrade to android 2.2 for the security exploit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
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wigmuke said:
....also, sorry for the weird delay/disjointed/incomplete responses. I keep forgetting that XDA severely limits my posting capabilities. I wanted to say super thanks wolf, for all your help and sticking with me! Your input is appreciated. And yes, I'm pretty sure I lost all root, etc. It is back to "out-of-the-box" stock as far as I can tell.
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lol now worries. easiest way to get to the 10 limit is just pad the count in here. ie just say something 10 times and you are good to go.
synisterwolf said:
unrevoked3 is the easiest way. but you will need to downgrade to android 2.2 for the security exploit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
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Good news, I'm on 2.2 stock right now (just checked to confirm). So should be able to just go ahead and run Unrevoked3 then.
Also, the most popular recovery I'm aware of is ClockworkMod Recovery. I found that it's up to version 5.0.2.0. Would you recommend anything else or know of a newer version?
Figure if I'm going to do this, might as well do it right.
wigmuke said:
Good news, I'm on 2.2 stock right now (just checked to confirm). So should be able to just go ahead and run Unrevoked3 then.
Also, the most popular recovery I'm aware of is ClockworkMod Recovery. I found that it's up to version 5.0.2.0. Would you recommend anything else or know of a newer version?
Figure if I'm going to do this, might as well do it right.
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Nope I'm RunNing that one and it works well.
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