Hello all
I think this thread would be highly relevant since we are all in the business of continuous wipes and ROM installs.
I have been using two programs for my backup needs: Titanium Backup and My Backup Pro. I know the two apps are quite different, but ultimately their purpose is the same. I list brief observations about the two:
TItanium BAckup
1) Backs up all right, but stalls on some programs while restoring, restarting Sense. In order to resume, one has to uncheck that program from the restore list
2) Creates a single, unified backup, thus saving disk space. But also, I haven't found a way to restore exactly the apps that I had last - it only restores ALL the apps in its backup history, meaning it is a cumulative history of apps rather than latest snapshot. The options are either 'restore missing apps' or 'restore all apps'. Am I missing something?
3) Closes down everything while backing up - something of a minor irritation
4) Does not restore my Sense desktop fully
5) Some restored programs are prone to errors or missing data
My BAckup Pro:
1) Generally quite slower than TB
2) Backs up everything, allows to restore only the apps I had last installed
3) Restores Sense desktop quite well
4) Sometimes stalls in the process of zipping the backup or unzipping it again. But always picks up from where it left.
It turns out MBP is slightly better. But I'd love others' feedback on this.
I've found TB to be highly advanced in Apps backup area compared to MBP. TB allows app freezing, which virtually allows you to uninstall a nagging system app with an undo option. And with the latest version it even allows uninstalling system apps!!
Bye Bye Teeter, Peep and the like.
Yes, you are right it is more 'advanced'. But for me more important than saving a few MB by removing system apps is getting my whole apps and desktop back undamaged and without errors etc, and in this case I found MBP to be better.
As I mentioned above, Titanium does not offer an easy way to restore the EXACT apps I had before wipe - it either offers 'ALL apps ever backed up' or nothing. Again, that might be my misconception. But as I said, it does stall on too many apps.
talhamid said:
Yes, you are right it is more 'advanced'. But for me more important than saving a few MB by removing system apps is getting my whole apps and desktop back undamaged and without errors etc, and in this case I found MBP to be better.
As I mentioned above, Titanium does not offer an easy way to restore the EXACT apps I had before wipe - it either offers 'ALL apps ever backed up' or nothing. Again, that might be my misconception. But as I said, it does stall on too many apps.
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will have to agree with u TB is quite annoying stopped using a while ago
the only problem i have with MBP is the contacts and calender restore so i stopped using them
i just log on to my gmail and sync my contacts and calender
and as for app restore, its works great never had any errors and i usually restore with data.
TB does allow single apps to backup or restore.
I have backup and restored single apps many times. U can set it to backup only user apps an optionally add the system ones. You simple press menu->batch->backup user apps then you can go through the list and tick/untick those apps you wish to backup or not.
I have found TB so easy to use for whatever combination of backup restore i feel like doing. Also the scheduled backup is a life saver!
for these reasons i have donated to this app!
Been using the paid version of Titanium since I got my Desire and love it. Have never had a single issue or experienced any of the problems listed...
i always used titanium earlier but since i tried MBP.... i generally uninstall titanium from the custom roms of flash. for me MBP is the best love it
I have paid versions of both TB and MBP, and only have one installed on my phone now.
Which one?
Titanium.
I've not experienced a single one of the issues that the OP mentioned. As has been said previously, even in batch operation you can select/deselect the apps you want to backup or restore.
To the OP: Are you using the paid version of Titanium?
Regards,
Dave
Yes, I am using paid version. I am aware of the option to restore single apps as well. I have been using both for months.
Actually, my problem is this: I have about 167 apps that I am currently using (or pretend to be using anyway!). TBP has a backup of these 167, PLUS many other apps that I backed up earlier but uninstalled. Now when I wipe, and then restore, I have to uncheck the apps I had uninstalled from the restore list. Second problem is, TBU stalls on some apps and reboots Sense, and will continue only if I keep looking at the progress bar, notice which app causes the crash, and uncheck it from restore list.
MBP provides multiple backups, allows me to back up JUST the apps I have installed RIGHT now, and restores them without a problem. it also restores my desktops quite nicely.
when you do a full backup of all the apps and system apps of course sense will crash , because TB shuts sense down to back up the files !
Thats the case with all the running apps, because you can choose
Kill active apps OR Exclude active apps !
You can choose a batch to backup the NEW programs in TB.
its in the list.
Backup All new apps & newer versions
I use the paid version and im very happy with it, it works great.
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Now when I wipe, and then restore, I have to uncheck the apps I had uninstalled from the restore list.
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If you don't want the backups for the uninstalled apps, why not just use the batch operation to delete them?
Second problem is, TBU stalls on some apps and reboots Sense, and will continue only if I keep looking at the progress bar, notice which app causes the crash, and uncheck it from restore list.
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I've never experienced this issue, so I can't comment.
MBP provides multiple backups, allows me to back up JUST the apps I have installed RIGHT now, and restores them without a problem. it also restores my desktops quite nicely.
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TB backs up your desktop too, if you select the right options.
Does MBP now have something similar to Market Doctor from TB?
Regards,
Dave
The Sense stall comes during RESTORATION not BACKUP, and on certain specific apps.
Secondly, yes I have seen the option, but what about restore. I have 'restore missing apps', 'restore all apps', and 'restore newer apps', none of which exactly matches my requirement.
Also, I know with the 'right options' I can restore the desktop with TB too, but it is restored in a broken way with many widgets missing.
Does MBP now have something similar to Market Doctor from TB?
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Actually yes but I have currently the problem, when restoring all apps with their data, they won't show up in the market until I reinstall one app (does not matter which one) and then you will see all your installed apps in the market. Can anyone confirm this ?
Besides that it won't restore 3rd party widgets at your homescreen but I'm almost using all launcherpro plus widgets and the lpp config will be anyway saved through MBP app backup.
I'm using MBP quite often to restore everything and it's quite impressive imho and definitely well worth its money. Never had a big issue with it except the small ones mentioned above.
Best Regards
How about, "Delete backups of Uninstalled Apps"
I used that after every full backup to make sure when I restore it doesn't restore uninstalled apps.
OK, I didn't notice the 'delete backups of uninstalled apps' - so my bad.
That said, I think MBP does what I need with far fewer clicks. Perhaps this is because it has less features.
One thing I can't get around is the error messages I keep getting with TBU.
Guess will have to keep both
talhamid said:
Also, I know with the 'right options' I can restore the desktop with TB too, but it is restored in a broken way with many widgets missing.
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I suspect that this may be due to the order in which the backups are restored. It's possible that TB restores the Sense homescreen data before some of the apps and widgets that are on the homescreens have been restored, causing the problems you mentioned.
I've no particular interest in testing it because I don't generally feel the need to backup and restore my homescreens, but if you are, I'd suggest trying to restore your apps and then try to restore your homescreen data.
One other great feature of TB is its integration with App Organizer. Using this, you can label your apps and then backup/restore by label. For example, I do play some games on my phone, but due to space restrictions I don't keep them on the phone at all times. Using App Organizer, I label all my games as "Games", and I then in TB I can backup/restore by that label.
Personally, I think TB is a much more flexible tool than MBP, but with that flexibility comes complexity, which means that MBP is probably superior for less technical users.
Regards,
Dave
To be honest i am a Lover of
My Backup Pro,
When i first flashed my phone, i was told by a number of people to use
Titanium
So i got it installed it,
and it come to flashing my rom, i loaded it up,
And was blown away by the number of options,
For me and my honest opinion and what i need it for,
Its far to over complex and does not always perform correctly,
After fafing around for a while i finialy managed to Backup my apps and Data,
And restoring them was a faf, And when i did some Apps didnt load / crash
At this point i never give it the time of day,
I got My Backup on the go and Wow was it easy and fast.
In the Time messing around with options in Titanium i would have backeup all my Apps and Data, and every settings and contacts SMS and MMS Alarms, well pretty much the whole phone using My Backup,
It was Super easy, no fuss, no messing, it backs up and restores,
Restoring is just as easy, select all, or Deselect ones you dont want to restore, if its Settings or A Couple of Apps,
So after loving it i paid for the Pro Version,
Never looked back
the_rebel said:
I've found TB to be highly advanced in Apps backup area compared to MBP. TB allows app freezing, which virtually allows you to uninstall a nagging system app with an undo option. And with the latest version it even allows uninstalling system apps!!
Bye Bye Teeter, Peep and the like.
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I am trying right now to uninstall Facebook widget and devices is rebooting...
Any suggestion
P.S.: Leedroid 2.0c ROM
I have been using My Backup Pro since day 1 of having an Android phone. But I am so sick of this POS app. Every single time I restore my apps to a newly rommed phone a number of them force close. If I uninstall those and reinstall fresh from market, they then work fine, so I completely blame this app.
I am not referring to widgets, btw
My question is, before I dump this POS and buy Titanium, has anyone experienced similar problems with it?
Thanks
Hi Barsky,
According to your question, I didn't encounter any issues with user apps + data restore.
However, in order to succesfully use all the features of Titanium Backup (reffered as TB) you have to be an aware user.
This means that you either backup everything and make custom restore, or you backup with a proper selection of things and restore everything. What do I mean?
1. You probably don't need to hesitate backuping user apps+user data, that comes pretty straight-forward.
2. You also probably don't need to worry when you upgrade your ROM.
3. The problem arises with rom/system applications and settings when changing (not upgrading) ROM (Froyo/GB, Sense/AOSP etc). What I found quite safe is:
BACKUP:
- backup everything in TB
- use Calls Logs & Backup from the market to backup calls log
- synchronize contacts and calendar with google
RESTORE:
[don't allow google synchronization before restoring calls log if you don't want to have call log with unbound telephone numbers]
- use Titanium Backup to restore Call Logs & Backup application
- use Calls Logs & Backup to restore calls log
- restore selective tasks in TB:
[be aware that restoring Widgets/HTC Sense may cause conflicts]
# Accounts
# Bluetooth Pairings
# HTC Sense (If you use Sense - and I have suspicion this can cause conflicts, but not sure yet)*
# Bookmarks
# SMS/MMS/Apn
# E-mail account settings
# Wi-Fi Access Points
# SMS/MMS Prefs
# ALARMS
- reboot
- enable google synchronization for contacts and calendar (I don't restore contacts with Titanium Backup since: 1. It's not necessary, 2. It causes FC on some migrations)
- restore all user apps+data from TB
Always make nandroid backup along with TB backup. I also advise making nandroid backup after restoring everything mentioned above except HTC Sense and Widgets, and then try to restore those two (if needed).
Obviuos tip - selective restoring can be done by executing 'batch restore' and then selecting from the generated list.
When I got all that, I am happy with TB. I don't expect perfect Backup&Restore tool, since there are too much defragmentation in Android platform.
Hi there,
Its the first time that i've had a Samsung phone, coming from iPhone > HTC ONE X > SN2.
i havent put in a MicroSD card yet, as its on its way to me soon.
So i presume that all the app that i downloaded from play store is stored on the OS memory?
In this case how can i put my whatsapp backups to? so that it can detect it and restore accordingly?
also need to do the same thing for my SMS & Call log apps.
help~
Use titanium backup to backup the files. Install TB on your new device and backup one thing (a single one you want). This will create a titaniumbackup in your root of the sd card.
In your old device search for the same folder and copy all the files there. Paste the in the new folder created on ur n7100.
Now, if you launch TB you should see the backups there, simply restore first only app and after only data. Thats it.
Don't forget to say thanks if this post helped you.
MobileFirmware.com addict and Nexus 4 user
[email protected]$Er said:
Use titanium backup to backup the files. Install TB on your new device and backup one thing (a single one you want). This will create a titaniumbackup in your root of the sd card.
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Youre telling the Root way to the dude...he isnt rooted, or may not want to root.
@OP: you will have to put the backups to /sdcard/whatsapp/databases
And for sms backup and restore, there is an app SMS Backup and Restore from Market. You can use thay
My contact was on google accounts, so they came back with sync
For call logs, SMS and MMS, i use MyBackup PRO or Titanium Backup (very useful, but not a very friendly app and root needed)
For apps, i use again MyBackup PRO or Titanium Backup, but if the phone is not root, you can't restore apps setting along with the app. And even with root, some games setting can't be restored. It's the case with all my Gameloft Game, i restore game, setting and even the big game data folder, but when i start the game, it's an all new game that start
It's really a pity there is no standard backup and restore app in Android, and that you must root your phone to do such a useful task But yeah, Android is for geek
Is it just me or does the note 3 not like it when you restore software from a titanium backup on another phone? Ever since I restored my software from my s4 to the no I've had headache after headache, including but not limited to:
* system slowdowns
* texts not sending or receiving
* security popup due to improper system access
* apps freezing upon loading and then you get "unfortunately such - and - such app has stopped."
fortunately I got the first three under control.
GN3, N9005T model, N900TUVUBMI7 firmware. additionally the gs4 is rooted with superuser and the n3 has superSU
adventure_of_link said:
Is it just me or does the note 3 not like it when you restore software from a titanium backup on another phone? Ever since I restored my software from my s4 to the no I've had headache after headache, including but not limited to:
* system slowdowns
* texts not sending or receiving
* security popup due to improper system access
* apps freezing upon loading and then you get "unfortunately such - and - such app has stopped."
fortunately I got the first three under control.
GN3, N9005T model, N900TUVUBMI7 firmware. additionally the gs4 is rooted with superuser and the n3 has superSU
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this seems to be the case. Fortunately I do not use Titanium. I use a program pair called Nandroid Manager and Online Nandroid Backup. Online Nandroid backup allows you to create a nandroid without rebooting. Nandroid Manager can do whatever you want with a Nandroid made either by Online nandroid backup or direct in TWRP or CWM. What I did personally is I used Online Nandroid Backup to create an up to date nandroid of my S4 on a sd card and then moved that SD card to my Note 3. I used Nanadroid Manager then to restore the following items directly out of the nandroid.
1) Apps (but not app data. never restore app data moving between versions of android)
2) Texts
3) Call History
4) Wifi Access points
5) Bluetooth Pairings
I also use Nova so I restored the nova backup I had made just before this as well and there I had it. A note 3 all setup just like my S4 had been.
Try using Helium. Since I didn't root yet, I used Helium to backup the apps and data on my S4. Then when I restored it on the Note 3, I don't remember having any issues.
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this seems to be the case. Fortunately I do not use Titanium. I use a program pair called Nandroid Manager and Online Nandroid Backup. Online Nandroid backup allows you to create a nandroid without rebooting. Nandroid Manager can do whatever you want with a Nandroid made either by Online nandroid backup or direct in TWRP or CWM. What I did personally is I used Online Nandroid Backup to create an up to date nandroid of my S4 on a sd card and then moved that SD card to my Note 3. I used Nanadroid Manager then to restore the following items directly out of the nandroid.
1) Apps (but not app data. never restore app data moving between versions of android)
2) Texts
3) Call History
4) Wifi Access points
5) Bluetooth Pairings
I also use Nova so I restored the nova backup I had made just before this as well and there I had it. A note 3 all setup just like my S4 had been.
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I had the same issue and I found this on another thread here, fixed all the issues I had with Titanium restores. The issues seem to be related to Samsung Knox, so they may not be present if you install some one of the firmware versions listed in the developers section.
"Found on the international side, worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=46026078
For those that don't want to read... restore your apps and then open terminal command and type the following:
su
restorecon -r -v /data/data
This has to be done after each restore to stop force closes."
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.viper.tbrestorefixerfree&hl=en
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.viper.tbrestorefixerfree&hl=en
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thank you. also, is it normal for this program to totally freeze the phone? I've let it run now for about four minutes and I can't even so much as press the home button...
EDIT: I could at least turn the screen off, then go back to the lock screen..
EDIT, again: Never mind. I got past the lockups, even got a program not responding error, reported it, ran it again, and it was instantly fixed. Now all my emulators will save their settings and whatnot. Thanks again.
Hi guys, I would like to save my Apps and associated data using the Titanium BU.
I unlocked the Bootloader, installed TWRP 3.3.1-0924 (unoff.) and Magisk 19.2.
Device is: RN8P, MIUI Global 11.0.3 Stable, 11.0..3.0 (PGGEUXM)
Problem: I can install the Titanium App v8.04 or the v7 version. When the TitaniumBU trying to start, and there is some long error message (approx. 2 pages) that all list only Java errors.
Unfortunately, I have not tried the Titanium before (without TWRP and Magisk Root).
Now, I can not say whether it worked before this modification.
Question: Is there any Java settings in the MIUI settings. I didn't find anything in Settings / Developer mode. Maybe someone can help me. I just want to back up my data and the apps with Titanium. On my old Samsung it made a perfect job.
Thanks
regards wa2ld
I downloaded Titanium Backup from play store seemed to work perfectly fine for me.
I had trouble getting titanium backup to install from my backed up apk's but as JuanM2020 said, from the play store works fine. Only issue I have is I've noticed some apps fail to restore with titanium backup on my rn8pro, just hangs, doesn't matter which settings I change. Maybe 10% of my apps have to be manually installed from the play store and then I can restore "data only".
I did not have any issue installing Titanium backup I grabbed from apkmirror, latest version available.
Gave it root and done.
Tbh I had been looking in that solution to backup my apps due to TWRP issues with work profiles (second space) which I am using, and so far none of the apps I tried to backup and restore worked. It backed up the Apk yes (but I dont care about that I have backup of those already) but not once I could make a backup of the app data (well yes I made the backup) more precisely could not restore those apps userdatas. Simple thing I wanted to have my login passwords saved so it could be restore without having to retype them.
Whatsapp, telegram, protonmail and some others, restoration of userdata failed all times.
Still have not found any solution to backup and restore apps and their associated datas from both profiles. Fails on both.
It is likely working for some apps, but certainly not for the app I need it to work. Too bad for me.
Speaking of which is there a way to only backup OS settings alone (without all the apps) for like walpapers, colors, default apps, per app settings like notifications and such?
Thanks.