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Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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My phone is rooted now with Modaco / CyanogenMod v1.4 + JF.
sonny88 said:
Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)
deeren said:
I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)
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To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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Please people, i don't want to be a jerk, but don't come up with questions like "Why did you buy a hero then?" ..
sonny88 said:
To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
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I'm on the same boat. When I bought my hero I hadn't really seen any working Android phone, either stock or HTC. Now that I have seen both I think that the stock apps and interface are somehow saner than HTC's, and what can I say? I'd prefer to use them.
Why don't you run the Rosie remover. It will get you part of the way to where you want to go
Indeed! but I also prefer the stock browser, the stock music player, the stock calendar, the stock contact list and dialer... and so on. They look less flashy but handier to my taste.
I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.
Actually, why do magic roms not work with the hero? What kind of modification would you have to do for them to work?
Fredriksen said:
I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.
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I think that the hero rom is not like the win rom. i mean all the htc customisations superimposed on the windows ones. There, all we had to do was just to remove the htc ones and we automatically got the windows ones.
I guess android's different. we have to remove all the htc customisations and add android's ones. Problem is hero never had the android's applications. what could be done is take a magic rom, remove all the applications and try to port them to the hero.
Problems would definetely arise cause the 2 phones are not 100% identical. some software work on the magic but not on hero bla bla bla.
I know some stock apps do work with the hero. I have been able to use the stock calendar and browser in my hero by replacing the apk and odex files, however replacing the contacts app makes it hang.
We could try to make a list of what apps can be replaced and how, or maybe even make update.zip files specific for that, similar to modaco's rosie remover. How difficult would that be?
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The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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I think that you'll probably find that the difference here is that chefs with a Magic or G1 actively want to "upgrade" to the latest and greatest ROMs. So, when presented with a Hero ROM, they will make the effort to back port it to the hardware they have.
The situation with the Hero is a little different. Here we already have the "latest and greatest", so there is probably very little motivation for a chef to port what is essentially an earlier ROM to the Hero. What you need to find is a chef who has a Hero, who either wants to run stock android, or is interesting in the intellectual challenge!
So, it's not really the case that "the magic can almost run any rom" - it's that their are chefs with Magics who are building these ROMs.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks guys!
I knew i wasn't the only one who wanted a clean vanilla android rom on the hero. Like frandavid100 said before, till there's another "magic rom" or something, we could make a list of apps working on hero.
I've had the same thing with the Contacts.app. This makes the phone freeze, and after removing the battery it constantly reboots.
If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.
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If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.
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Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE
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Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE
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I will do that tomorrow ok? I live in The Netherlands and its 09.35pm and i'm watching a movie
BTW: I also have a stock Magic/ION image. I can extract the apps from there as well. Tomorrow i'll try some apps.
Thanks for the effort guys!
Just another quick post. Below you'll see a list of apps which i'm going to try tomorrow. Please post request apps if i forget one.
- Contacts (probably doesn't work)
- Phone (unknown - probably same as contacts)
- Browser (probably works)
- Music Player (probably works)
- Messages/sms?
- Camera (unknown)
- Albums (probably no multitouch)
- Camcorder (don't know if this one is available)
- Calender (probably works)
- Calculator (unknown)
- Clock (don't know if this one is available)
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BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!
Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).
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Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).
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I am sorry.. i'm at my girlfriend and don't have my laptop with me tomorrow i'll post some links to different roms we can work with. But i can assure you they won't work on the hero.
Im also going to try to port the sapphire keyboard to the hero. Don't know if someone already did this, i haven't used google yet.
Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!
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Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!
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haha ok lol
I'm going to work on that list now.. wish me luck
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BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!
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Or you can just use the HTC lockscreen and press menu twice!
Regards,
Dave
I have moved this post to HTCPedia, where I can have a bit more control over the moderation. Please continue to follow development here: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1528
Great, booting now
First impression:
REALLY fast, can find Twidroid free(not the pro) so not all apps are working(i think)
but it's a lot better then the Sense...
This is great! Flashing this now.
Btw it has all Google Apps right?
Thanks!
Also, how soon can we expect working Camera?
yeah all works, can find a lot of programs(i have 2 apps now that i can't find, taskiller FULL and Twidroid Pro, but free editions of those are available)
HTC_IME.apk won't work gives a FC, looking for a dutch dictionary (A)
Thanks! Good job!
How about HTC Widgets, Clock and Calendar?
Great!!!!
Hi... seems like a good ROM.... whilst you might be working on it... would love it if u can possibly add in A2SD... that would be amazing. When should we expect the new ROM
Thanks
you've made my day!!!!!! cheers
Thanks, This is going on my hero tomorrow
tisungho said:
Thanks! Good job!
How about HTC Widgets, Clock and Calendar?
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are gone, it's a AOSP, that is without HTC stuff!!!
so NON Sense, no htc keyboard, no .............................
Absolutely fantastic. This is the fastest user interface I have ever experienced on any of my phones ever. Including my iphone 3G.
I now have almost everything I need in this ROM and I don't think I will try any other ROM until HTC releases their ROM. I might not even try that. I love vanilla Eclair (with sugar on top).
The only thing that annoys me is that my Exchange calendar still not synchronizes. Wonder why? But I can fix this via the Market. Not for free, though. :/
And, theres the issue with the camera. I guess that will be fixed pretty soon, though.
I have tested a bit, so its really damn fast . Camera not working like said in the topic, the Youtube apps seems non working too. If someone can confirm too.
But really good work . I hope you caontinu this Amazing work
Edit: About the youtube app, the application laucnh correctly but when i try to play an video the screen is black.
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I have tested a bit, so its really damn fast . Camera not working like said in the topic, the Youtube apps seems non working too. If someone can confirm too.
But really good work . I hope you caontinu this Amazing work
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confirm, i hear the sound, but the screen is only black....
Video playback is unusable. Trying to play .mp4's from my sd card with meridian and it lags so badly that it is unusable.
The youtube application works, but I only get a black screen when I start playing a video.
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I have tested a bit, so its really damn fast . Camera not working like said in the topic, the Youtube apps seems non working too. If someone can confirm too.
But really good work . I hope you caontinu this Amazing work
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Yes, I can confirm. You could add Meridian player for your videos.
Great work BTW dev. I like the cleaness and simplicity of this ROM, its also quite quick.
Also voice search is non usable
nice work.
Is it just me experiencing lag while swiping between homescreens?
ismaskin, I'm experiencing that lag too.
Also, isn't this the Moto Droid one? I like the AOSP 2.0 better, but I guess the sync problems killed that for me. Any way to get the sync to work on 2.0 now that its working on this? Somehow strip from this and attach to that?
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Code:
Initial release (r1):
* Added akmd from HTC's leaked 2.1 build
* Added wlan.ko from HTC's leaked 2.1 build
* Added libhtc_ril.so from HTC's leaked 2.1 build
* Added sensors.hero.so from HTC's leaked 2.1 build
* Added libgps.so from HTC's leaked 2.1 build
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Which leaked ROM are you referring to?
ismaskin said:
nice work.
Is it just me experiencing lag while swiping between homescreens?
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it's silky smoothe for me, have you tried a reboot?
Hmm its maybe (like in lox rom) an missing driver for the GPU part of the MSM CPU ?
will give this a blast tomorrow when I've got time...... Its great to see another plain rom for our hero! Well done to everyone involved!
wonder if somebody can make a custom rom with htc legend theme would be real nice?
....... Villain rom?
rudgia said:
wonder if somebody can make a custom rom with htc legend theme would be real nice?
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Seriously?
You do realize that the HTC Legend runs HTC Sense? We already have a great theme for that. It's called HTC Sense and it comes with every HTC Hero out there.
htc Legend rom copy
cursordroid said:
Seriously?
You do realize that the HTC Legend runs HTC Sense? We already have a great theme for that. It's called HTC Sense and it comes with every HTC Hero out there.
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yes iknow that but i would like to have the ui in settnings and like friendstream
watch video "Hands-on with the HTC Legend and the aluminum unibody" on youtube
Any 2.1 rom should have that menu and the friendstream is an app when someone gets hold of the .apk for it then that should be possible as well.
thanks for the infO
rudgia said:
yes iknow that but i would like to have the ui in settnings and like friendstream
watch video "Hands-on with the HTC Legend and the aluminum unibody" on youtube
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We won't be able to theme something like FriendStream, but like mentioned above, there will be an APK for it.
Within minutes of the Legend being released we will have a system dump. It won't be long.
I am also waiting a lot for the dev's to get the ROm of the HTC Desire and Legend and adapt it for Hero!
I am so excited to get all these new features ( i don't care about the stupid pinch to see desktops, but the copy-paste , Bluetooth audio on 2.1 ROM, the new contact widgets, etc..)
Villain is really nice but still buggy and i am sure it will get really better when he will get the Legend/Bravo sources!
im hoping its soon its a really nice UI !!
I'm looking forward to this as well. Does villain have good 3d gaming? i havent tried his yet because of this.
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I am also waiting a lot for the dev's to get the ROm of the HTC Desire and Legend and adapt it for Hero!
I am so excited to get all these new features ( i don't care about the stupid pinch to see desktops, but the copy-paste , Bluetooth audio on 2.1 ROM, the new contact widgets, etc..)
Villain is really nice but still buggy and i am sure it will get really better when he will get the Legend/Bravo sources!
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You do know we can already copy and paste don't you? Bluetooth audio works on some 2.1 roms already and so does the new contact widget and even pinch zoom on desktop. Currently the only real thing we are missing is the friend stream.
jcarrz1 said:
I'm looking forward to this as well. Does villain have good 3d gaming? i havent tried his yet because of this.
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No it does have problems with this but that's more due to the files we have available than how he has made the rom, we need a more complete htc 2.1 rom before this will work properly
Lennyuk said:
You do know we can already copy and paste don't you? Bluetooth audio works on some 2.1 roms already and so does the new contact widget and even pinch zoom on desktop. Currently the only real thing we are missing is the friend stream.
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u forgot camera @ 5mp
profete162 said:
Villain is really nice but still buggy and i am sure it will get really better when he will get the Legend/Bravo sources!
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He won't get the Legend/Bravo sources! Android 2.1 is already available AOSP, and the HTC stuff is closed source.
To be honest, I rather expect the Hero update to be pretty much everything that will be on the Legend, so the real issue here is which will come first - the Legend or the Hero 2.1 update?
Regards,
Dave
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Even that works on 2.1 sense based roms
Lennyuk said:
You do know we can already copy and paste don't you? Bluetooth audio works on some 2.1 roms already and so does the new contact widget and even pinch zoom on desktop. Currently the only real thing we are missing is the friend stream.
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He probably meant that the copy and paste feature have been much improved since 1.5, if you watch the presentation of the new HTC phones.
In about a month, we're getting the same Sense update..
For the who wants to know:
The new ROM is already compiled for the Nexus one and works 99%.
I really hope that once it's OK for the N1, we will get it for the Hero!
Thank to Paul from Modaco: http://android.modaco.com/content/google-nexus-one-nexusone-modaco-com/302822/loading-up-the-desire-rom-on-the-nexus-one-my-findings-so-far/
This doesn't make any since because you want a 2.1 sense ROM that will also be given to the Hero?
The work making a rom based off of the Legend is pointless since it would be the same thing your getting.
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This doesn't make any since because you want a 2.1 sense ROM that will also be given to the Hero?
The work making a rom based off of the Legend is pointless since it would be the same thing your getting.
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Exactly, people don't seem to be understanding this point.
Also about 80-85% of the features are also available on custom roms (albeit maybe a little buggy until we get the real thing)
I was googling and i found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647837
to all the developers, does anyone think this live wallpaper can be ported to the hero? it would be great instead of having just the static wallpaper.
There are live wallpapers for hero. For example on villainrom.
i think he means the Bokeh wallpaper.You can buy it on the market but it eats up ram on the nexus so i never bought it
no its different, you know the desire wallpaper? its a live wallpaper version of that, like you see in the TV adds
I fail to see your point. Do you want to have this live wallpaper run on the hero or do you want LWP to run on the hero in general? Because if you can run LWP on the hero in general, you sure can run this one too, but I'm afraid it's gonna be slow. If you want to run this LWP on the hero, you first have to enable LWP in general which brings us back to starting position. So yeah, basically, whatever you meant, as I said villainrom is the only rom AFAIK to support LWP with sense. Then you have to buy the bokeh LWP from the market and apply it and you're done.
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no its different, you know the desire wallpaper? its a live wallpaper version of that, like you see in the TV adds
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My friend has the Desire and that one you are meaning is called HTC Sense in the LWP List...otherwise known as Bokeh Live wallpaper...
would anyone know how to get live wallpaper on a ROM that doesn't have it?
As I say for like... 3825923589th time, team villain apparently knows and got LWP to work on their rom. If you are a dev and want to implement it, ask them. If you are a user, flash villain10. Can we consider matter closed, or should we wait for 50 more questions of the sort "I want LWP on my hero! How?"? Thanks!
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As I say for like... 3825923589th time, team villain apparently knows and got LWP to work on their rom. If you are a dev and want to implement it, ask them. If you are a user, flash villain10. Can we consider matter closed, or should we wait for 50 more questions of the sort "I want LWP on my hero! How?"? Thanks!
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I know that Villain can do it but I don't use their ROM so I just wanted to know if there was a way to do it. I'm not a user who enjoys harassing devs about things I want on their ROM if I can do it myself. Next time I won't bother asking if I have to deal with someone as unpleasant as yourself
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I know that Villain can do it but I don't use their ROM so I just wanted to know if there was a way to do it. I'm not a user who enjoys harassing devs about things I want on their ROM if I can do it myself. Next time I won't bother asking if I have to deal with someone as unpleasant as yourself
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I think you should be able to use the lwp patch on other roms too which you can find at the villainrom forums: http://www.villainrom.co.uk/download/file.php?id=478
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I think you should be able to use the lwp patch on other roms too which you can find at the villainrom forums: http://www.villainrom.co.uk/download/file.php?id=478
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Thank you very much
It is greatly appreciated not to mention you weren't anal about the matter
HomerSp said:
I think you should be able to use the lwp patch on other roms too which you can find at the villainrom forums: http://www.villainrom.co.uk/download/file.php?id=478
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Thanks, is there anyway to get that sense lwp onto the hero? its nice
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Thank you very much
It is greatly appreciated not to mention you weren't anal about the matter
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Although HomerSp is nice and friendly, he is slightly incorrect in his assumption. Seeing your sig, you are using Cronos droid and in case that is the 1.7 version, you can apply the LWP fix, but it will break your theme and still you won't be able to use LWP. And still I don't see why you have to bother other devs (like HomerSp) in order not to bother Feeyo. It wasn't all that hard to do a nandroid and try it without asking people whether you can do it. And sorry about being anal again, but if you would like to do things yourself, do you have to ask about every single thing? Just do it - if it works, great, if it doesn't - go harass Feeyo about it.
Thanks, is there anyway to get that sense lwp onto the hero? its nice
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This is what i was asking, this lwp is the same concept as the bokeh one, but its not the same.
I tried pushing it, but it force closes when you try to use it. I also tried flashing the whole zip, which contains lib files as well, but then my phone wouldn't boot up
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Although HomerSp is nice and friendly, he is slightly incorrect in his assumption. Seeing your sig, you are using Cronos droid and in case that is the 1.7 version, you can apply the LWP fix, but it will break your theme and still you won't be able to use LWP. And still I don't see why you have to bother other devs (like HomerSp) in order not to bother Feeyo. It wasn't all that hard to do a nandroid and try it without asking people whether you can do it. And sorry about being anal again, but if you would like to do things yourself, do you have to ask about every single thing? Just do it - if it works, great, if it doesn't - go harass Feeyo about it.
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Yes it doesn't work and I don't consider it bothering when my question is not directed at anyone but they do try and help, also I was unaware of the file and I would have done a Nandroid and flashed it myself if I was aware of it in the first place, not to mention I searched for a day or two looking on XDA and google for any possibility to get LWPs to work on a Hero without using another ROM but I came up empty handed I tried to push some LiveWallpaper.apk and LiveWallpaperPicker.apk to see if it would have any affect but it didn't so I was stumped so I asked when I tried everything I could think of. I am not a dev or a theme so I have no way of knowing how the internals of Android works I don't know any coding languages even though I tried when I was a bit younger to no success and I have put in a request to Feeyo to have it on the next version he releases.
Ok, ok, sorry. Guess I was bit too harsh, but I didn't realize you didn't find the fix on villain forums... I'm afraid I've started resembling kendon in attitude On the LWP with sense topic - I think you need some modifications done on the rosie, so any rom with custom themes will have problems. Also you might need a deodexed rom (as the update only contains rosie.apk and not a rosie.odex), so I guess it will be hard for a non-dev to work things out and modify the villain fix to the cronos rom.
Anyway, the thread apparently has different purpose - that is porting specifically the bokeh LWP to work with hero and not getting LWP to work in general, so I guess we were a bit off-topic for which I apologize.
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Ok, ok, sorry. Guess I was bit too harsh, but I didn't realize you didn't find the fix on villain forums... I'm afraid I've started resembling kendon in attitude On the LWP with sense topic - I think you need some modifications done on the rosie, so any rom with custom themes will have problems. Also you might need a deodexed rom (as the update only contains rosie.apk and not a rosie.odex), so I guess it will be hard for a non-dev to work things out and modify the villain fix to the cronos rom.
Anyway, the thread apparently has different purpose - that is porting specifically the bokeh LWP to work with hero and not getting LWP to work in general, so I guess we were a bit off-topic for which I apologize.
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Thank you for the feedback it is appreciated yes we are off topic if only a bit
HomerSp said:
I think you should be able to use the lwp patch on other roms too which you can find at the villainrom forums: http://www.villainrom.co.uk/download/file.php?id=478
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Homer you seem to be the porting master,the one we all want is on the desire.Called HTC Sense in the live wallpaper list,i reckon if anyone can do it you can!
Please can someone port HTC Sense Live Wallpaper from Desire to Hero
Thanks
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Reason: To improvise and make a full release at a later time..
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Cyne3yte release screenshots will come here...ROM coming soon...
I like your rom - but too bad that you use old TF3D version 1 which doesn't have calendar tab and 5 day weather
How about free RAM on boot?
Though, the lack of Calendar tab keeps me back from choosing again a TF3D rom..
Still, great work it looks great!
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I like your rom - but too bad that you use old TF3D version 1 which doesn't have calendar tab and 5 day weather
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Point well taken...
jpavly said:
How about free RAM on boot?
Though, the lack of Calendar tab keeps me back from choosing again a TF3D rom..
Still, great work it looks great!
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Free RAM on boot is 49mb.
Like i said this is an old is gold related ROM. But even though i said i would not add or remove apps, i still take your suggestions clearly
When i get my vacation arnd december, i will see about integrating Sense 2.1 and 2.5
Thankx for your replies.
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Free RAM on boot is 49mb.
Like i said this is an old is gold related ROM. But even though i said i would not add or remove apps, i still take your suggestions clearly
When i get my vacation arnd december, i will see about integrating Sense 2.1 and 2.5
Thankx for your replies.
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rather than sense 2.1 i will suggest you to take a look into TF3D 2.1
the only difference in sense 2.1 and TF3D 2.1 is that sense 2.1 has weather in home tab
something which is not really important if you can have a faster phone with more free RAM
I was not aware of that detail about TF3D 2.1!
Sure, the weather in the home tab is useless and it's animations are annoying.
I can't really recall seeing a TF3D 2.1 Rom though..
Sorry about the repost, just found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2943363#post2943363
It might help you somehow.
You are a chief?????o_o