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HTC Desire overheating

My HTC Desire has a serious issue with battery life. Although I shut down most programs and connections, the battery lasts about 3 hours only. Also I have noticed that the phone gets quite hot on the back by the micro SD card. Do you think that my phone is faulty?
I posted the same question on,
http://www.htcdesireforum.com/htc-desire-troubleshooting/desire-overheating/
but not many inputs, does anyone else got the same issue?

mmmm 3 hours? i think its faultly.. my one last more or less a day with normal usage. gets warm when i use it a lot.

checkout the thread on excessive battery usage before you deem it as faulty.

ardsar said:
checkout the thread on excessive battery usage before you deem it as faulty.
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can you please point me to the right thread? thanks.

coolfx35 said:
can you please point me to the right thread? thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666404
There are many tips in this thread and how to identify which application is using the most battery, and which are causing the device not to sleep correctly. Its a long thread, but worth the read.

If it is only lasting three hours no matter what you do, and it's getting THAT hot, then yeah... I would say there is an issue. Maybe it is shorting out somewhere. I would take it back if I were you. It can have poor battery life under VERY heavy use, but that's still pretty extreme... and I have never seen my battery get above 39c.

I had this last night, but only while I was charging the phone. I pulled the battery & it was around the microSD that was hottest. Took it out & replaced n rebooted...haven't had any problems since.
Doub't the microSD caused the problem but might be worth a try. Either that or when I rebooted I didn't start the app that caused the overheating.
Does it overheat if you just do nothing with it when u reboot?

cbanbury said:
I had this last night, but only while I was charging the phone. I pulled the battery & it was around the microSD that was hottest. Took it out & replaced n rebooted...haven't had any problems since.
Doub't the microSD caused the problem but might be worth a try. Either that or when I rebooted I didn't start the app that caused the overheating.
Does it overheat if you just do nothing with it when u reboot?
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So far it doesn't happen, I will keep you guys posted.
thanks for the help.

Hot Battery
I received my HTC on Tues night and within half an hour the palm of my hand was burning inside and yet still not healed (Thurs AM). P10 of the safety guide says this is nonionizng radiation (sounds unhealthy). I believe that the aerial is just beside the SIM and card slot and holding this next to your palm is warned against in the manual. Bit strange since that is how you would hold a PDA. However, I informed my service provider (Three) and they said it must be a fault so are replacing (with new apparently). Slighlty concerning however I will reserve the option to refund until I see the new handset. I might add that I have HTC's XDA Guide for bus. and that battery also gets very hot, but not as quick! Why put an aerial next to a battery, the combination of the two, I beleive is casuing heat issues.

my phone gets extremely hot ! sometimes up to 56 degree C !! and suddenly it reboots!

StrongOneX said:
my phone gets extremely hot ! sometimes up to 56 degree C !! and suddenly it reboots!
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56c?! That's probably the highest I've heard of? What are you doing when it gets that hot, charging?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

GANJDROID said:
56c?! That's probably the highest I've heard of? What are you doing when it gets that hot, charging?
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My phone was charging, WiFi was ON and I was browsering the internet, then i watched a movie. suddenly it started to smell like pommes frites. The phone was lying on a sleeping bag ( which is air tight and works like a heat shield ) and seriously it almost went flame on! lol

StrongOneX said:
My phone was charging, WiFi was ON and I was browsering the internet, then i watched a movie. suddenly it started to smell like pommes frites. The phone was lying on a sleeping bag ( which is air tight and works like a heat shield ) and seriously it almost went flame on! lol
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I would seriously reconsider your usage when charging. The highest mine has gotten was 40c. Just take into account that the bottom of your screen will also get near that temp, so be very careful
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reached today 49,5 °C by simply navigating and charging via my car-charger at the same time... battery-status showed status "overheated"
is this normal?!
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b

berre said:
reached today 49,5 °C by simply navigating and charging via my car-charger at the same time... battery-status showed status "overheated"
is this normal?!
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b
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Erm, no.
I'd consider mine overheated if it gets over 35c.

StrongOneX said:
my phone gets extremely hot ! sometimes up to 56 degree C !! and suddenly it reboots!
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Wow, thats hot. Farrr too hot

berre said:
reached today 49,5 °C by simply navigating and charging via my car-charger at the same time... battery-status showed status "overheated"
is this normal?!
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highest I've seen is 38°C, I believe above 45 is extremely hot

I've had to send mine back to HTC for "stress testing" as mine can't even get past 33°C without going into a reboot loop . It gets that hot just with some light use of GPS + Maps or Mobile Internet + Browsing.
Hopefully they at least replace the MoBo or possibly even the whole phone doubtful though...

hehe, my active holder in the car is in such a place I aim the vent/blower at the back of the Desire. No overheating while navigating with the airco on!
But I guess having something this fast (1ghz) in such a small package which uses quite some power as well means it's going to be hot real fast.
Although I don't find the Desire -that- much warmer/hotter than some of the other phones I've owned.
I guess when your Desire gets really hot (over 40C-45C or something) you can always give HTC or the warranty service a call. Perhaps when some parts don't sit properly on the cpu (something like a cooling frame or whatever), temperatures will rise a lot. And might even cause the phone to reboot.

Hi, I had similar problems that is very evident when i started playing games. I sent back to HTC 3 times before they finally replaced my mobo. I suggest you guys do the same

how hot is your desire?

Just got a replacement phone from htc due to a problem with my previous one. The thing with this so called new phone is the it gets very hot. Even the screen feels hot to the touch. All the aluminium parts are worse, tracking ball is also hot. Anyone with the same problem or is it just me

must say i have not noticed any heat issues with my desire. my wifes is fine and my sons is ok too

Mine is cool and only the battery and the bottom part(CPU there?) feel a little hot with heavy usage.

Mine can get pretty warm - probably warmer than my old touch pro - but its slimmer, more powerful and a bigger screen which i guess uses more power.

looks like i am the only person with this problem. Last night while using the phone it really got too hot to handle. I had to put the phone down to let it cool off a bit before using. Looks like i got to send HTC more e-mails again. Damn...

About 90F from the temp reading ... thats on an idle day. When doing stuff it can go up to 100-120.

Mine is getting quite warm when charging and using it at the same time but never really that hot that I couldn't handle it. Other than that it stays handwarm or cool when idle. The Desire getting as hot as you descibe it does not feel right for me, except you're using it in the desert?

Mine gets hot too.. just reading some news and the battery is 38C. Also device feels hot. Especially the lower part of the screen and back. No reboot though. Is this normal?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Mine gets quite hot when I oc.
How well do our devices toletate heat? Has anyone spoke to the allmighty allknowing HTC about this?
What is their view?

I think my Desire is cool... muahaha..
Yeah, bad joke. .
In real, it is warm when using wlan and some bits moving around, but it will get very hot if i use 3G/hsdpa.. Actually it start to warm up badly even with very light data traffic... Connection is ok with allmost allways full bars.
Nice to have this HOT device...
Aargh... bad joke day i have...
Edit: forgot to say it didnt warm up like this when oc and stress test. Have not tested/used GPS so can not say anything about it.
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Mine is getting hot when i have the wifi on and surfin for hours but i get used to now,is not concerning any more

Pulled down this app called tempmonitor from the market. So far the hottest that i managed to get for the battery temp was 45degrees. I think that is pretty hot.

My phone was 160 the other day in the car while listening pandora.
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hmm yeah after some internet browsing my battery temp was at 40 degrees celsuis the other day. It did feel hot but then again other smart phones heat up too i guess so i have come to accept it

Ever since i started to use the desire i have been having problems with my sd card. I dont know why but i keep getting this error message "sd card damaged" i got to reformat the card every time. Data loss is making my blood boil, i never had this problem when i was using this card with the touch pro2. Could it be that because of the heat that the card keeps getting damaged?

Overheating, random reboots.. out of warrenty

Hi, I have a HTC desire, its nice but it gets hot latley when playing games like angry birds for a bit when the battery drops to 20% or so, and I plug in in.. it starts doing reboot cycle.. I think it only happens until the phone cools down.
I know the only real fix for this is a new mainboard, but I am not under warrenty..
any suggestions on how to live with it, or work with it.. someone told me a bad sim card or sd card might do this to the phone... I have already put 2.3 on it and factory reset and such...
thanks

How old is it? In the eu the warranty is 2 years.
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Wow, good to see im not the only one. I have the same problems, and depending on the rom they get worse or better. im running CM7 now and i have little problems, but when i was running the ICS beta it happend a lot, both on and of the charger and in my pants pocket or out.
If its overheated and i take out the battery i can smell a sort of molten plastic / overheated electronics smell.

for me it was the same - main problem is motherboard.
in the end service center exchanged for me motherboard and now this problem is gone.
but before this exchange i did following:
* decreased max cpu speed to 576-768MHz (via SetCPU)
* in one of old kernels I was able to manipulate with CPU voltage level, so i was decreasing it for all freq. which was used by me.
* charging only via PC usb ports - when it was able to be fully charged and not overheat
but the proper way would be only to bring your device into service center...

I would also suggest decreasing the max speed

might be that sleep mode doesn't work entirely as it should in some roms, not making the CPU frequency drop enough when the screen is off.
And your device might be getting old and wear is starting to show.
If it's actually damaged, replacing parts may be the only solution

This is a known problem for the first devices. The solution is to change the motherboard, of course at the service center.

mephoneisjunk said:
Hi, I have a HTC desire, its nice but it gets hot latley when playing games like angry birds for a bit when the battery drops to 20% or so, and I plug in in.. it starts doing reboot cycle.. I think it only happens until the phone cools down.
I know the only real fix for this is a new mainboard, but I am not under warrenty..
any suggestions on how to live with it, or work with it.. someone told me a bad sim card or sd card might do this to the phone... I have already put 2.3 on it and factory reset and such...
thanks
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You need to pick a good firmware I worth Runnymede AIO V 5.0.1 Special Edition-> Base Runnymede 1.22.461.2 Official Sensation sense 3.5 Android 2.3.5 [CM7/r2] [STOCK] [AD2SDX] [A2SD] [BEATS] [RCTWEAKS] [Aroma Touch Installer]
no problems found! the same problems arise Earlier.

How did you void your warranty? Rooting or installing custom does not void hardware warranty. At least I got my pvt1 motherboard replaced even when I had rooted and used superglue to fix some broken plastic under back cover.
Sent from my HTC Runnymede

Ya, the phone is just out of warrenty, it really is only 1 year in Canada.. no ifs ands or butts...
But the phone only seems to do the reboot loop when I play angry birds when the battery is low and or when I play angry birds when the phone is charging ..
I think it happend once in google street view...
in other words intense apps... that make the phone warm up and then the sensor tells the phone to restart to protect the processor from overheating, but when the phone reboots the thing is still hot so it keeps rebooting.. only solution is to take the phone battery out and let it cool..
I guess this problem could get worse but it doesn't happen with normal web browsing at this point. I might have to live with it until I find someone to replace the mainboard cheaper than HTC wants.. otherwise not worth it.
I guess lowering the CPU max might be great so it doesn't overheat in the 1st place, I will try that.
I don't really understand rom, I have 2.3 gingerbread, is there something else I can change to perhaps get a better radio signal on this puppy ?
THanks GUys

I have this problem, although until recently it only when trying to use it as satnav.
I'm glad to hear it's a known problem though.
I contacted my provider and they said perhaps the battery is getting tired and causing it to reboot due to lack of power. I pointed out that it was the other components near the sim & sd card slots that were getting hot, not the battery, so they sent me another one. I did buy another battery too and that has made no difference either. As soon as I rooted the replacement phone it started getting warm too. I'm also pretty sure that the "replacement" was a refurbed one, since the optical joystick doesn't always respond and when typing msgs sometimes the vibe feedback stops working mid-word.
It's very frustrating not being able to use it for navigation any more (although it works happily with My Tracks for recording routes).
However since I've rooted it, I don't think I'd get away with requesting another replacement phone. I've tried installing other rom's that might run cooler, but when I do they always lock at the HTC splashscreen and I have to restore nandroid backup.

Hello,
i'm new to XDA developers. Should i buy this phone? I'm thinking about it these days but i'm not sure if it is worth. Thanks for your answers.

The same Problem on my Phone! While charging i can not use my Phone.
My solution: Don't touch while charging. :-(

I think I have same problem...my Desire in regular use get worm at 35% and at 38% burns my hand...and what is wors,for 15/20 min. regular use(not havy or gaming) temp. rise from 28% to 37% but something confuse me...last night I play 3d games for an 1 hour and at 20 min. I put it on charger and continue to play games and 40 min. later temp. is 40% and stil no reboot but butom side of phone(not battery...front side (buttons and screen) and back side) is so hot that I can burn my hand on it. I put statistic that battery indicator show(time,%,temp.). So is it like that to you guys? Is your phone have that heat thing for 15 min. of regular use?
Its pic of last night 3D gaming and its all statistic of temp./ % / time...

setCPU sorted this issue for me

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setCPU sorted this issue for me
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Ok, sounds promising. Can you elaborate on that a little bit please? What settings did you use etc?

Ahhhhh.... My gf phone having this issue.. and i think the problem is the sdcard, class 2 and use it for a2sd..
But, i tried to unroot the problems still happen, even without sdcard, the best way for me is leave this phone.. :-(
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If still in warranty, call HTC.
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timwb said:
Ok, sounds promising. Can you elaborate on that a little bit please? What settings did you use etc?
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simply installed it, and it had it run at lowest speed on idle so it could remain cooler
(you can check the settings on it to see what it runs on idle and modify to your needs anyway)

I have similar problem like yours. I suspect the problem is come from SIM because there is no this kind issue happened IF turn to flight mode or tool out the SIM.
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Brand new Nitro getting really hot

This thing gets hot. I've had an HTC Hero, LG Optimus, and HTC Evo 4G before (all on Sprint) and none of them got hot unless I was charging it and talking on the phone.
But this Nitro gets hot after just a minute of browsing the internet, or even just playing with the settings (ie not using the radio). It's not the battery getting hot either. It's up on top of the phone around the camera. I have no idea what's causing it.
Anyone else experiencing this?

Yeah.. that happens to all of us. Under-volting helps a bit.

Welcome to the hell that is the Nitro's constant overheating!

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing it! lol
Maybe I won't notice it so much when my Body Glove comes in today.

JINXR said:
Well I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing it! lol
Maybe I won't notice it so much when my Body Glove comes in today.
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Depending on how new your phone is, if you can still return it I would honestly suggest doing that. This phone WAS good when it was first released, but the other offerings on the market now (HTC one X, galaxy S 3, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Nexus) blow it away.
The screen is awesome, but you can't only base a phone's performance on it's screen quality.
One X is beast

JINXR said:
Well I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing it! lol
Maybe I won't notice it so much when my Body Glove comes in today.
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The bodyglove will get hot as well. Only happens to mine once in a while when I'm using it heavily.

It's a software issue I believe. If after using ur browser of the Facebook app and hit home then open the stock application manager u will see the browser can use up to 28% and Facebook spiking to 70% CPU usage and since the small logic board holding the core CPU is at the top of the phone it can cause the overheating in that area

hereric said:
Depending on how new your phone is, if you can still return it I would honestly suggest doing that. This phone WAS good when it was first released, but the other offerings on the market now (HTC one X, galaxy S 3, Galaxy Note, Galaxy Nexus) blow it away.
The screen is awesome, but you can't only base a phone's performance on it's screen quality.
One X is beast
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It's my work phone, and I don't think any of those better phones would cost the same amount. I had to pull all kinds of strings just to get into an Android. I can't be any more of a PITA and exchange it now.

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It's a software issue I believe. If after using ur browser of the Facebook app and hit home then open the stock application manager u will see the browser can use up to 28% and Facebook spiking to 70% CPU usage and since the small logic board holding the core CPU is at the top of the phone it can cause the overheating in that area
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Gotcha.
Does anyone know if CM9 fixes this? Or maybe the ICS update will?

The phone will always get hot if you are heavily using the CPU, regardless of what ROM you're using. That is considered normal. It doesn't mean your phone or ROM is defective UNLESS your phone is rebooting when it gets too hot (i.e., it's overheating).
The Nitro is just designed with a CPU that gets hotter than most.

mine doesn't get hot. warm yes. hot, not in the slightest.

Mine starts to get hot after about 10 minutes on a voice call. After about 20 minutes I have to go to speaker phone because it's just uncomfortable to have next to my ear. I'm hoping that this is a software issue and that it gets resolved with the official ICS release.

lg lu6200
my lg lu6200 also gets very hot while playing games but stays at normal temperature while internet browsing

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The phone will always get hot if you are heavily using the CPU, regardless of what ROM you're using. That is considered normal. It doesn't mean your phone or ROM is defective UNLESS your phone is rebooting when it gets too hot (i.e., it's overheating).
The Nitro is just designed with a CPU that gets hotter than most.
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? snapdragon is in alot of phones wtf are u talking about.
mine only got "hot" one time, when i left it in the direct sunlight in the car with the windows up and was shopping for 30 min or so, when i came back it was hot, i left it on mistake.
other than that i've only had it very warm a few times, when charging while doing heavy usage, this is because your battery gets real hot, you can get widgets that give you the temperature of your battery, which is more likely to overheat than your cpu, unless your cpu is overclocked too much.
if your phone is getting warm brand new, your battery is getting broken in, don't panic, keep an eye on it though and it should break in over time. my battery got warm alot faster when it was new, and it didn't get as much lifespan as it does now, as far as i know this is normal.

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? snapdragon is in alot of phones wtf are u talking about.
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my lg lu6200 also gets very hot while playing games but stays at normal temperature while internet browsing
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congrats your were arguing on something posted year ago..!:good:

Extremely high phone temp!

Does anyone have issues with your SGSII T989 phones having extremely high temps?
I get it when using the GPS, charging the phone while i'm talking on the phone, and doing a few other activities. It did not do this on my first purchase of the phone and i'm a bit weary of the temps as sometiems it gets quite warm!
Currently I'm on O.E. SGS II Rom w/ root, that's about it! No OC no mods or anything of that sort. (Just CWM and Root).
Any tips would be greatly appreciated, as this heat as caused me from using my phone each day more and more.
P.S. I WAS on Juggernaut Rom and then flashed back to Stock, and it was having this heating issue then, should i try to do a complete 100% wipe like on one of the development threads and start from scratch like I just got the phone from the factory again? I wiped my system using Odin and it seems to of kept my old programs, no information like games and etc. was kept however, does anyone think that might be the problem? Once again thanks!

XxGoKoUxX said:
Does anyone have issues with your SGSII T989 phones having extremely high temps?
I get it when using the GPS, charging the phone while i'm talking on the phone, and doing a few other activities. It did not do this on my first purchase of the phone and i'm a bit weary of the temps as sometiems it gets quite warm!
Currently I'm on O.E. SGS II Rom w/ root, that's about it! No OC no mods or anything of that sort. (Just CWM and Root).
Any tips would be greatly appreciated, as this heat as caused me from using my phone each day more and more.
P.S. I WAS on Juggernaut Rom and then flashed back to Stock, and it was having this heating issue then, should i try to do a complete 100% wipe like on one of the development threads and start from scratch like I just got the phone from the factory again? I wiped my system using Odin and it seems to of kept my old programs, no information like games and etc. was kept however, does anyone think that might be the problem? Once again thanks!
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If you are rooted you might want to try a different kernel and maybe SetCPU. I had some overheating/temp issues a while back and after I lowered my CPU a bit and set it to an Ondemand state with a profile for screen off running CPU very low when not actively in use it seemed to fix the problem.. Btw SetCPU is free for XDA users, there is a thread somewhere in the Android Hacking Apps forum..
GL
Edit: I thought it was free to xda users, I checked and cant find the thread, maybe I was wrong or they changed it..

ty VoiD
I'm on the stock kernal, I was on the modified 1.7ghz kernal before i believe, as I could overclock over that, but i just recently stopped that and went back to stock. I was and still am expecting the phone to malfunction on me sometime soon lol. It's been a really reliable phone so far! My G1 and Mytouch 3G slide (gf's phone) took soo many dumps on me while I used it. Each of those phones were probably sent back 5-8 times and they were kept completely stock for a while!
Back on subject though. Any kernals that go well with the factory rom? I don't favor any aftermarket roms right now as they're not stable enough for my usage IMO.

I have heat problems but I've always had the stock kernel...
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Undervolt at the stock clock if you want to lower temps. However, charging will always increase heat especially if you are using the phone at the same time, and depending on ambient temps.

Dude my moms sgsII literally got fried because it heated up once. She was using her phone normally and all of a sudden it started heating up. She kept using it and the next day the phone won't turn on, charge or get into download mode. It looked like what a hard brick would look like. So I just returned it for a HTC one S.
Btw she was on full stock.
My phone heats up a lot because I'm down south with 90-95 degree temps and I keep phone in the car dock by the windshield but it never failed on me.
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I thought it was a well fixable issue. Guess not? lol... Either way, everytime my batt temps rise, i notice i get 40-45C and i start to get worried. So if i'm in a car, i'd just put it next to the AC vent while the car's running and temps get down to about 25C and i'm good again. I just don't feel comfortable with the phone anymore like I use to. It never did this before, why now??

I have an app that warns when it goes over 40 and it happens daily. I was downloading torrents one time and it keeps the screen active while downloading and the thing got like 62 celsius before I realized what happened. It almost burnt my hand lol. if your ever in sunlight or palming the phone while using gps on 4g.
overheating is very common with this phone I wouldn't worrie about it to much it is uncomfortable though if in your pocket
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Also remember, any app that uses hardware acceleration for graphics or video (games, browser, etc.) or gps will cause the phone to heat up if used for a prolonged period of time.
Playing Osmos was like setting my phone on fire.

curry67 said:
I have an app that warns when it goes over 40 and it happens daily. I was downloading torrents one time and it keeps the screen active while downloading and the thing got like 62 celsius before I realized what happened. It almost burnt my hand lol. if your ever in sunlight or palming the phone while using gps on 4g.
overheating is very common with this phone I wouldn't worrie about it to much it is uncomfortable though if in your pocket
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Are you sure I shouldn't worry? I mean, I don't want solder points falling off due to too high of a temp. Then again these temps don't even reach 100C yet. I've got the same app too probably, it's a battery monitor that tells u when the phone gets too hot. mine's goes off everytime i'm around 40+
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Also remember, any app that uses hardware acceleration for graphics or video (games, browser, etc.) or gps will cause the phone to heat up if used for a prolonged period of time.
Playing Osmos was like setting my phone on fire.
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Yep, I use GPS and often. It's just so much easier than guessing your way off a piece of paper. But yeah, like you the phone gets soo hottttttt. I have to always put the phone to my AC vent.

It's normal to a point.
These are serious computers we have.
Think of the old P486's back in the day, those things needed huge heat sinks and some even had fans
our phones which is what, 4x the cpu power and not only no heat sink but everything is squished together inbetween a hot screen and a hot battery
That being said, I use a program called A-see, which is to watch my security cameras while out.
And if I forget to close it out (Actually exit the program) It will keep running and running and eventually probably fry my phone
lets put it this way, I will actually start to feel it in my jeans pocket, it gets that hot.
Also I have a program which will alert me if my phone gets to 130 degrees F
And will automatically shut the phone down if it gets to 140
overheat protection or something

I had this issue where whenever I try to charge my phone it would overheat to the point unbearable to touch I went back to stock flash different roms in the end i exchanged it it was still under warranty