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Newbie Questions about EVO Rooting

I'm coming from a rooted port of Android for the Sprint Touch (Vogue) (Thanks DZO, Myn, and company!!!) and WOW EVO is amazing.
Anyways I have a few questions I need help with getting started I've been reading a lot but I'm still overwhelmed with the wealth of info:
#1. I updated the OTA - does this mean I can't root yet until the new OTA is rooted?
#2. I would like to go to a new rom without all the junk. I don't use sense, or any of that other fancy stuff running in the background. Is there a rom you would recommend?
#3. In the past, I had a rooted device where I could modify the androidinstall.tar and remove .apk's I didn't want. Is this possible with the current situation on EVO?
#4. With all these roms, do you generally clean wipe everything each time? or do settings / apps / configs remain?
Thanks!!!

I can try to answer your questions.
1. Unless something has come out recently off you are stock and did the update no way to root yet.
2. I just use stock ROM and remove what I don't use.
3. I personally use "root explorer" once you are root you can either unlock nand and use out to remove bloatware or you can adb and remove with your computer.
4. I'm not to sure about those commands, I haven't ever used those.
Look at the sticky in any forum and go to the ROM and Guide link and everything you need to know its there. Keep a close lookout I'm sure somebody will figure out how to root the update soon.
Ifly
EVO fully rooted fresh

ifly4vamerica said:
I can try to answer your questions.
1. Unless something has come out recently off you are stock and did the update no way to root yet.
2. I just use stock ROM and remove what I don't use.
3. I personally use "root explorer" once you are root you can either unlock nand and use out to remove bloatware or you can adb and remove with your computer.
4. I'm not to sure about those commands, I haven't ever used those.
Look at the sticky in any forum and go to the ROM and Guide link and everything you need to know its there. Keep a close lookout I'm sure somebody will figure out how to root the update soon.
Ifly
EVO fully rooted fresh
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Thanks!
Yeah I love root explorer, that's how I used to change things on my old phone. I have it installed but I guess I just have to wait for them to root the update. Maybe I shouldn't have updated
Oh well, knowing XDA they will probably root it by the time I'm finished typing this post. I'll keep reading those stickies... thanks for the answer though!

No problem. Yeah, never install an update till the devs ok it. Good luck.
Ifly
EVO fully rooted fresh

Crap one question I forgot - without being rooted - is there anyway I can do the wireless tethering besides the standard Sprint program?

There is a program on the market called easytether. One is the lite version, which is free. The full version is 10 bucks

Dave2582 said:
There is a program on the market called easytether. One is the lite version, which is free. The full version is 10 bucks
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yeah but it doesnt work as a router which is what I want. I decided to just use the sprint version for 29 a month

Stock Roms for EVO

I rooted using toasts method. Tried a bunch of ROMs and don't really like any of them. What is the closest to STOCK Rom out there? I like the HTC sense and stock EVO but want to maintain root for wifi tether. Any recomendations on a close to stock Rom greatly appreciated!

you can use the stock supersonic roms to keep root and maintain the stock experience. do a quick search at the top of this forum for the guides and roms sticky.

sringgen said:
I rooted using toasts method. Tried a bunch of ROMs and don't really like any of them. What is the closest to STOCK Rom out there? I like the HTC sense and stock EVO but want to maintain root for wifi tether. Any recomendations on a close to stock Rom greatly appreciated!
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prob best for the q&a thread.
im biased but i think my ROM, which i designed for exactly this intent is the best stock ROM. of course, thats my opinion. it loads the stock kernel and a completely stock system, with root that properly works with wifi tether and small developer tools like busybox, flash_image, and a shortcut remount script.
it loads all the stock apps, everything stock!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699847
if you want to remove some stock apps, i have a small web site tool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700621

Just reroot via this method and you will 100% stock rom with root access and nand unlocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
I really like the stock experience as well, and this allows me to maintain that + add things like the FPS fix (godsend), & setcpu.
Enjoy.

Thanks FluShot! That is exactly what I wanted. One question though.... can I format the SD card now without loosing root? I have a bunch of junk on there from all the "messing" around.

Try omj eclair rom
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I think Caulkin posted an entirely stock rom, it has nothing but root added.
However I think OMJ or JoeyKrim is an even better idea, the only changes they have made are adding in some tools you may eventually need, which won't be in the way. BusyBox for example gives you tools for backing up, adding, and removing data and apps, but it doesn't even add an icon to your drawer, it is just available when needed from the terminal (and is probably less than 100k, but I don't know).

FluShot said:
Just reroot via this method and you will 100% stock rom with root access and nand unlocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
I really like the stock experience as well, and this allows me to maintain that + add things like the FPS fix (godsend), & setcpu.
Enjoy.
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I used this method and lost all capabilities of syncing my facebook contacts and pictures. a few of us have had that problems but no one seems to have the answer. =/

I used Facebook sync from the market to get all my contact pictures imported. Not sure if that is how you are supposed to do it but it worked for pictures then I removed the app.

Samsung Galaxy USA Tmobile S3.. root question

hello all. I've rooted my past phones, and used custom ROMS.
I'm wondering if it's possible to just root my S3, but keep the stock Rom on it? i think it's fast, and I'm quite happy with it!
I'd like to be able to remove some of the bloat programs, and be able to do backups via titanium.
Is this possible?
Would i be able to do samsung ROM updates with ease?
would this void my warranty?
Could someone guide me to the right guide to accomplish this task?
Thanks for your time, and assistance!

xtacybyme said:
hello all. I've rooted my past phones, and used custom ROMS.
I'm wondering if it's possible to just root my S3, but keep the stock Rom on it? i think it's fast, and I'm quite happy with it!
I'd like to be able to remove some of the bloat programs, and be able to do backups via titanium.
Is this possible?
Would i be able to do samsung ROM updates with ease?
would this void my warranty?
Could someone guide me to the right guide to accomplish this task?
Thanks for your time, and assistance!
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Of course you can root your phone and stay on the stock rom, that's where your at after every root! Just don't flash a rom, your not forced to. You will probably have to unroot to apply updates, but I think there's an app in the play store to temporarily unroot the phone, or disable super user & busy box? Your correct on using TB to remove bloat, and there's a thread somewhere in general about what's safe to remove, and it's also best to make a back up before you remove anything just in case. There are guides in the development section on how to root, or for a video tutorial go to galaxys3root.com. It's a site created by user zedomax where he makes videos on how to root & install custom roms/reviews that can be very helpful to less advanced users. I hope I've helped, and if you have any questions, issues, or are just looking for an opinion on something feel free to PM me and if I can't help you I'll point you to someone that can! Best of luck, and be careful!

Root, but keep stock ROM? (I know there are other threads, still confused!)

Hey all...
To summarise:
- I want to create a definitive and easy to follow guide for the following:
- I am using a GSM Samsung Galaxy Nexus, in the UK.
- I would like root access (Super User).
- I don't want ClockWork Mod Manager (permanently, if I need to use it at some point).
- I don't mind learning to use ADB, but please bear in mind that I am an ADB Novice.
- I DON'T want a custom ROM (I want to keep the stock firmware).
Details:
So first things first, I know there are other threads relating to this topic - however I still feel a bit unsure about the whole thing..so my aim here is to get some clear cut advice, and then hopefully create a guide for people who have the same aim as me in the future.
I've come from a HTC Desire, which I felt I needed to root in order to overcome some of the handsets shortcomings - for example the lack of native App2SD+ features, and poor battery life. Because of this I felt the need to alter the stock firmware and replace it to better suit my needs. (With MIUI, which I'd highly recommend for anyone using an older smartphone)
With the Galaxy Nexus, I feel that the firmware itself is not a problem. I would, however, still like Root access so I can install Root only software, such as AdFree.
How would I go about this? I don't really want to permanently flash ClockWork Mod Manager or anything that makes it obvious the phone has been Rooted. Rather, I would like access to be available but take a back seat (if that makes any sense)
If ADB makes this possible, I am not really comfortable with it - BUT I would be willing to learn
I hope I have made my question clear, if I haven't then please let me know! I look forward to your replies, and thank you for your help in advance
Amar

First of all, this isn't the place to post this.
and you have to install cwm to get a custom recovery, then you can put back stock recovery (don't see the point of this... but whatever).
You can flash a stock rom that has super user... thats the only way to do it

isinisterx said:
First of all, this isn't the place to post this.
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Only thing you said that was 100% correct.
isinisterx said:
and you have to install cwm to get a custom recovery, then you can put back stock recovery (don't see the point of this... but whatever).
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Wrong, he doesnt have to install cwm to root: just booting it with fastboot and flashing a zip containing su binary/superuser.apk or supersu.apk will do the trick.
isinisterx said:
You can flash a stock rom with super user... thats the only way to do it
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Wrong again.
@op, read stickies in q&a thread before posting. Start in efrant's android 101.
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Please keep questions in the correct section. Development is reserved for on dev related items to download.

Use the guide in my SIG.
Just ignore the part about making CWM stick and you'll be fine.

[Q] Rooting and ROM

Hello, this is the first time posting on this forum and relatively new on the android platform after jumping ship from blackberry. So, i have afew questions i hope you guys can help me with.
1. I heard/read alot regarding rooting to bring out the full potential of an android(s4) phone. What is the full advantage of rooting my phone? How does granting administrative access affect my phone performance?
2. I often see the jargon of bloatware on this forum, what does it exactly mean?
3. What is the function of ROM?
Sorry if these qns are repeated, please direct me to the answer if it is already present in the forum. thanks

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Still confused between Samsung Galaxy S4 and 10 acres of land in London

Rooting your phone gives you access to do anything you want ie (Apps 2 sd) that the phone dosent permit you to do.
A ROM is just a different feel, and its a faster alternative in upgrading your android ios. (S4 has touchwiz, can change it to Htc Sense)
Bloatware is a bunch of unnecessary apps that Carriers know youll never use but have it just cause. Its annoying and it takes up space. Rooting allows you to delete these apps, cause if its not you wont be able to remove it.
I hope this helped, ask again if you have any more questions.
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I was wondering if there is a sort of rooting guide for dummies out there. I want to root my phone to get rid of some of the bloatware that I will never use, and also to delete the annoying start up and shut down sounds. Other than that, I'm happy with Touchwiz so far, but I suppose adding custom themes would be fun.
I rooted my last phone (Samsung Vibrant) over 2yrs ago and don't remember how I did it. I know I installed a custom ROM, but don't remember how to do that either. I remember following a really good guide with pictures and step by step instructions though. It's early days yet with the S4, but I really hope someone will do the same kind of guide because it's very helpful for those of us who like to customize but don't have the time or knowledge to seriously get into it. When I look at some of the threads on rooting it just seems like a foreign language to me!
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mahgnillig said:
I was wondering if there is a sort of rooting guide for dummies out there. I want to root my phone to get rid of some of the bloatware that I will never use, and also to delete the annoying start up and shut down sounds. Other than that, I'm happy with Touchwiz so far, but I suppose adding custom themes would be fun.
I rooted my last phone (Samsung Vibrant) over 2yrs ago and don't remember how I did it. I know I installed a custom ROM, but don't remember how to do that either. I remember following a really good guide with pictures and step by step instructions though. It's early days yet with the S4, but I really hope someone will do the same kind of guide because it's very helpful for those of us who like to customize but don't have the time or knowledge to seriously get into it.
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Try the motochopper method - the guide is pretty simple and self explanatory however if you're on latest kernel then rooting is a no go as of now
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Still confused between Samsung Galaxy S4 and 10 acres of land in London

nikufellow said:
Try the motochopper method - the guide is pretty simple and self explanatory however if you're on latest kernel then rooting is a no go as of now
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Thanks I looked at that and it seems straightforward, but I'm concerned about what to do after the actual root. Things like how to back the phone up in case I mess it up, how to delete things, how to add things. Also I find a lot of the terminology confusing... not quite sure what all the acronyms stand for either, like ODIN or CWM, or what each thing does exactly. This is the kind of thread which would be totally useful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028 (this one is for the Vibrant though, so I think a lot of it would be different on a different device?)
As far as the kernel... as far as I know nothing has been updated. I got the phone on the first day it came out so I'm assuming it doesn't have the latest kernel. How would you find out? Not even sure what the kernel is or what it does :\ I would like to find out though!

^^^then you might be on an earlier kernel version anyway trying to root by motochopper method won't brick your device even if it doesn't go successful so no worries.
ODIN is the same software that service centres use to revive your bricked device - as a matter of fact with Samsung drivers, a usb cable and stock rom downloaded from online sources like sammobile, you can revert almost any instances of soft brick. Simply saying ODIN will flash back factory/stock rom anfd make your device as it was when you bought it. And yeah flashing via ODIN and all are more or less same procedure for all Samsung devices
Cwm is a custom recovery. If you don't know what recovery means it might be worth googling for better understanding the concept as even my knowledge is limited and my explanations might fall short of your expectations
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with regards to rooting my s4 which is running on 4.2.2 jellybean, does motochopper actually brick my phone? In addition, can i root my phone to remove the bloatwares and afterwhich, unroot my phone again, with all the bloatwares already permanently removed? Is it possible to download the full list of softwares of the s4 online such that if i accidentally remove an important software, i will be able to restore it. As I am someone who is not into very much customization and over-clocking, i believe i dont need my phone rooted for custom ROM right? I can use stock ROM when my phone is unrooted and clear of bloatware?

Mami-dalous said:
with regards to rooting my s4 which is running on 4.2.2 jellybean, does motochopper actually brick my phone? In addition, can i root my phone to remove the bloatwares and afterwhich, unroot my phone again, with all the bloatwares already permanently removed? Is it possible to download the full list of softwares of the s4 online such that if i accidentally remove an important software, i will be able to restore it. As I am someone who is not into very much customization and over-clocking, i believe i dont need my phone rooted for custom ROM right? I can use stock ROM when my phone is unrooted and clear of bloatware?
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Steps
#1. Locate GS4 box, place phone inside box.
#2. Return to store and get iPhone.
Serious tho. Best thing you can do is READ. SEARCH and READ. SEARCH and READ.
If you are unsure about something, READ again. Most questions have already been asked and answered.
If you find yourself lost......SEARCH and READ. Believe me this is this most useful advice you will ever get here.
Stuff is so easy now compared to when android 1st started. I remember rooting my G1 on a terminal prompt and installing recovery with wicked long commands. Now everything is automated and the hardest (NOT) part is reading the step by step instructions provided on almost every mod and tweak.
Welcome and goodluck !