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HTC Desire Video Quality and Compression

Hey there,
In my experience, the Desire compresses the hell out of all recorded video, which makes it blurry. My girlfriend ran a marathon a couple of weeks ago, I recorded parts of it but people's faces looked like they had been blurred out digitally, or as taken from a Japanese 00's horror-flick.
I have the highest quality setting activated, as well as the MPEG4 encoding type selected. Still the Desire saves videos in the outdated .3GP-format that I had on my Sony Ericsson's six years ago, instead of as .MP4.
The file size of one minute of recorded video is about half the size of the same recording on my Nokia N97, and unfortunately, the quality is about half as well.
Is it just me, or does the Desire compress video way too hard? And why aren't they saved as .MP4 when the MPEG4 setting is on? Is there a tweak to decrease the compression ratio?
Thanks!

MapleDouglas said:
Still the Desire saves videos in the outdated .3GP-format that I had on my Sony Ericsson's six years ago, instead of as .MP4.
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Neither .3GP or .MP4 are video formats - they are container formats (see here).
If you select MPEG4, it will be saving as MPEG4 within the 3GP container.
As to the actual recorded quality, I can't really comment as on the few occasions I've used it to record video, it looks ok to me.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Neither .3GP or .MP4 are video formats - they are container formats (see here).
If you select MPEG4, it will be saving as MPEG4 within the 3GP container.
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Intriguing, I did not know that Thanks. Still bummed about the video quality, though. There ought to be a setting for those who prioritize quality and not small files.

MapleDouglas said:
Intriguing, I did not know that Thanks. Still bummed about the video quality, though. There ought to be a setting for those who prioritize quality and not small files.
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We're supposed to be getting an update to support recording at 720p (as well as DivX). HTC announced this before the Desire had shipped, but has been curiously silent on the matter since then.
I did tweet @HTC about the lack of a DivX update, but @HTC only wants to respond to trivial nonsense it seems.
Regards,
Dave

Yeah I noticed they are quiet on that at the moment.
I wonder if they are planning it with the 2.2 update maybe?

hmm, I got a feeling they have trashed the 720p video quality update.
it has been silence about it for a long time:\

Froyo 2.2 will have the 720 option it was mentioned in the detailed Google IO paper. Along with better gmail. End calls with the power buttons. And app updates upposed to OS revisions.

The max option records at 2Mbps. You can get decent quality from that, most YouTube vids are far far lower. The framerate however differs depending on the ambient light but anything plus 15ish looks fine.
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th3 said:
The max option records at 2Mbps.
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Is there even a "max" option for the video camera? If so, where is it located? I can only find a quality setting for the still camera. A 40 second video clip recorded with my HTC Desire is approx. 10MB. That's very far from 2 MB per second?

MapleDouglas said:
Is there even a "max" option for the video camera? If so, where is it located? I can only find a quality setting for the still camera. A 40 second video clip recorded with my HTC Desire is approx. 10MB. That's very far from 2 MB per second?
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It's 2 Mbit /s (Mega bit), not MB (Mega Byte).

2mbps is not 2MB per second
its more like 256KB per second in the terms you're using
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081226184426AASu2ov
good luck

i use format factory free to download and only program which rips bluray rips .mkv to make it work for htc desire. You can choose from so many profile and test the settings which suits best to your mobile i believe res setting for htc desire are 400 by 800. i can send you setting i use. I ripped avatar blueray rip 8gb to 745mb with awesome quality. Give it a go you wont be disapointed and it supports subs. it basically supports all formats.

i just used MEGUI and it's iphone preset but left the res as 800xwhatever. AAC audio.
worked fine.

Format Factory sounds great with a whole bunch of the 23 reviews saying it has a trojan in the installer and also automatically installs the Ask Toolbar!

i myself megui for ripping but format factory is way easy to use. Megui is bit complicated program i do use it for ripping you can crop colour correction etc but megui takes longer to rip. i have found format factory to rip 720p rips perfect for my nokia n97 mini and desire.

abats said:
It's 2 Mbit /s (Mega bit), not MB (Mega Byte).
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Yes, you're right, of course. My bad

foxmeister said:
We're supposed to be getting an update to support recording at 720p (as well as DivX). HTC announced this before the Desire had shipped, but has been curiously silent on the matter since then.
I did tweet @HTC about the lack of a DivX update, but @HTC only wants to respond to trivial nonsense it seems.
Regards,
Dave
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Could U please show me a link, or a press release or whatever from HTC regarding this topic? An official one, not just a blogger heard something...

lukacs.attila said:
Could U please show me a link, or a press release or whatever from HTC regarding this topic? An official one, not just a blogger heard something...
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I don't have one, and I can't be bothered to look for one either, but it was widely reported a few months ago.
Regards,
Dave

You can use a free program called Mediainfo, take a few clips with diffrent settings and see the codec and bitrate.
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lukacs.attila said:
Could U please show me a link, or a press release or whatever from HTC regarding this topic? An official one, not just a blogger heard something...
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I believe it was back when the Desire was the Bravo - there was alot of talk of 720p recording and the fact the hardware supports it

Why is the 720P recording always come out choppy with artifacts?!!?!

Seriously every single video I record comes out with artifacts and choppy/freezing. What in the world is happening. I can't be the only one? Fix for this!!? So disappointing, sigh

Try on CM6. HTC sucks at coding.
They set a low bit rate in the video with high compression. CM has normal ones, plus they're working on better audio.

Geniusdog254 said:
Try on CM6. HTC sucks at coding.
They set a low bit rate in the video with high compression. CM has normal ones, plus they're working on better audio.
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Damn out of all the times I've flashed CM6 I've never tried the HD recording! This might be the definite deal breaker for me for Sense Roms.

Yeah. It looks really nice on CM6. >_<

I had the same issue with 2.1 and 2.2. I noticed that when I played the video for a second time it would play smooth (maybe it got cached). I just changed the SD card to a Ridata class 6 and now videos always play OK.
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teomorell said:
I had the same issue with 2.1 and 2.2. I noticed that when I played the video for a second time it would play smooth (maybe it got cached). I just changed the SD card to a Ridata class 6 and now videos always play OK.
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Yeah but it also plays back choppy on my computer when I transfer the file over or if I upload it to YouTube or anywhere else. I am going to try CM6 now and see what kind of results I get.

I'll admit I haven't tried 720P recording on CM6 in a few weeks but under RC1 the issue I was having was that the video and audio would lose sync...I took a recording of my dog barking at my cat and the video of the bark was showing before the bark sound. I guess I should try it on the nightly I'm running now and see how it is.

do not record in mpeg4 try H.264 that worked for me

andre104623 said:
do not record in mpeg4 try H.264 that worked for me
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H.264 Doesn't do 720P though?

Vandam500 said:
Seriously every single video I record comes out with artifacts and choppy/freezing. What in the world is happening. I can't be the only one? Fix for this!!? So disappointing, sigh
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Video quality sucks man.. its the worst and 3GP video files are impossible to edit

Vandam500 said:
H.264 Doesn't do 720P though?
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H.264 does H.263 doesnt

(Request) JPK Froyo video 2-5 seconds long for testing

As stated in the title I need short video file download from those running on jpk. 1280 by 720. Daytime nighttime does not matter. Just playing around with codecs.

here you go

thanks a lot.
good to know that froyo brings mp4 with aac instead of eclair crappy 3gpp with amr. should be better for the concerts and loud environments now.

lol...When i first saw the video i laughed, i didnt read wat the op said, just the title...rofl

@idan - there is no significat difference with aac audio, the sound is still crappy when you record a concert.
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azreil24 said:
@idan - there is no significat difference with aac audio, the sound is still crappy when you record a concert.
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Damn audio, totally ruins the recording/video experience with this phone...

It still is a great improvement, now I can just make a video, start AllShare and immidiately see the result on the big screen using my PS3. I always thought it was a shame to use this stupid 3GP container so I have to remux all the videos on my PC.
As for the sound: does the phone record from headset if connected? If yes, I guess this could be exploited to use a better microphone. The inbuilt one is meant for the phone function, obviously, and they just didn't add another for noise cancellation and video recording.

Idan73 said:
good to know that froyo brings mp4 with aac instead of eclair crappy 3gpp with amr.
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Fantastic. Now all we need is touch-to-focus in video mode.

another nice thing would be to be able to change the recording sound volume or some thingy that corrects its selve when you record loud things.

PlanetJumble said:
As for the sound: does the phone record from headset if connected? If yes, I guess this could be exploited to use a better microphone. The inbuilt one is meant for the phone function, obviously, and they just didn't add another for noise cancellation and video recording.
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It is possible to record from headset but sound is still crappy. It's software problem.

The problem is with the mic itself, it is very sensitive, it would be great if there was an app that could monitor the input level of the mic and adjust de volume when its lower or higher than a certain threshold level, if not automatic at least manually.

Some kind of mic equalizer?

my bad it was always aac audio and not amr. by mistake i compared with old nexus video lol. only wrapper changed to mp4.

Spik3balloon said:
Fantastic. Now all we need is touch-to-focus in video mode.
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The Cyanogen mod is gonna have this feature

SquirtingCherry said:
The Cyanogen mod is gonna have this feature
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This is just a stupid iPhone function. Video recording auto-focus is much usefull and better when you shoot a video.

[Q] Xperia PLAY record HD video?

Xperia PLAY have got 1Ghz CPU, and 5mpx Camera. This hardwares enough to the recorded of HD vido? Or not?
Is the solution of this possible?
(Sorry my bad Englis)

Should be!
One of Sony's recent updates gave you the 720p camera. if your on a custom rom i bet you can find the apk somewhere.

This was one of the early updates. Though it does not specifie it's recording in HD but really it records at 720P when the best quality is chosen in the options. However I personally think that the latest Cyanogenmod 7 video recording was remarkable. Best quality ever seen so far.

arian009 said:
This was one of the early updates. Though it does not specifie it's recording in HD but really it records at 720P when the best quality is chosen in the options. However I personally think that the latest Cyanogenmod 7 video recording was remarkable. Best quality ever seen so far.
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What? Really? It's pretty crap if you ask me. It records at 800x480 and the video usually has constant moments of extreme stutter.
What do you like about it? Is there any way to get 720p on CM7?

3dawg said:
What? Really? It's pretty crap if you ask me. It records at 800x480 and the video usually has constant moments of extreme stutter.
What do you like about it? Is there any way to get 720p on CM7?
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Yes latest CM7 shoots as 720p on default mate. Best quality so far witnessed!

arian009 said:
Yes latest CM7 shoots as 720p on default mate. Best quality so far witnessed!
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Are you sure? I've been using the latest CM7 FXP builds every time they're released and I've even tried some CM7 nightlies from the CyanogenMod site.
None of them, including FXP123, do 720p recording. Perhaps you're mistaken? Or have I missed something?

Yes I'm fairly certein. I vivdly remember I was shocked by the performance of the video camera. Flash the latets CM7 and start filming with the highest values in the settings. Then see the video on your computer. Even if he screen size is not 720x900 the video quality most definitly is HD

Any fix or alternative for Audio in Camcorder?

I find the HTC Droid Incredible Camcorder app decent to record on, and wouldn't mind it HAD IT BEEN they didn't make the audio recording horrible.
It records at a 8Khz AMR format........any solution or alternative to this?
I've tried lgCamera, but it freezes / skips / lags to much and causes the audio to desync.

Atunzuman said:
I find the HTC Droid Incredible Camcorder app decent to record on, and wouldn't mind it HAD IT BEEN they didn't make the audio recording horrible.
It records at a 8Khz AMR format........any solution or alternative to this?
I've tried lgCamera, but it freezes / skips / lags to much and causes the audio to desync.
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Did you try Videocam Illusions? That will let you set the audio much higher, though you will lose some video quality as compared to the stock camcorder.

musical_chairs said:
Did you try Videocam Illusions? That will let you set the audio much higher, though you will lose some video quality as compared to the stock camcorder.
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I want something that has atleast 720p

Atunzuman said:
I want something that has atleast 720p
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...and for 720p on the dinc, you're gonna need an app that uses hardware encoding, in other words, something that uses the stock camcorder.

musical_chairs said:
...and for 720p on the dinc, you're gonna need an app that uses hardware encoding, in other words, something that uses the stock camcorder.
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lgCamera has 720p, it just skips a little bit and that desyncs audio. Any ported APPs or something I could use from like a different phone or something?