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Can I go back?

I looked around and did not see a clear answer to the question of reverting/flashing back to WM5 if desired after flashing one of these WM6 ROMS.
Does anyone know where I can find the answer?
Thanks in advance.

I too have looked around but haven't asked for fear of being flamed. The gurus think that we should be able to pick up on all the lingo and have a clear understanding of what everything means.
I am looking for a way to go back to a shipped ROM from anything after flashing SPL 1.11 in case I need to warranty exchange my Cingular 8525. I have yet to figure out how to do it.

euth said:
I too have looked around but haven't asked for fear of being flamed. The gurus think that we should be able to pick up on all the lingo and have a clear understanding of what everything means.
I am looking for a way to go back to a shipped ROM from anything after flashing SPL 1.11 in case I need to warranty exchange my Cingular 8525. I have yet to figure out how to do it.
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Yes. You can go back to WM5 from WM6. I have done it before with no problems. Your answer is once again yes!
I will not flame you but look harder.

wildbilll said:
I looked around and did not see a clear answer to the question of reverting/flashing back to WM5 if desired after flashing one of these WM6 ROMS.
Does anyone know where I can find the answer?
Thanks in advance.
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I am feeling kind tonight!
Look here:- http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/

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Hope the hint helps

Oh dear
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeFAQ
And the gurus have used plain english too! wow!

...but just to let You know..
once You go black (2.5 ), You will never go back...

hi there
first of all, I am no expert in the ROM related knowledge, but i did go back to WM5 from WM6 recently. The reason I have gone back to WM5 it is because I am suspecting the Chinese viewer (CE-Star) that i used does not work good in any flavor of WM6, it causes frequent lock-ups in WM6 that makes my phone pretty much unusable.
Besides, i don't mind to share my experience for downgrading to WM5, the following is my up and down sequence.
1. upgrade from Dopod WM5 rom to WM6 cooked rom
2. upgrade to SPL 1.40
3. upgrade radio to 1.38.00.11
4. upgrade radio to 1.40.30.00
5. upgrade to SPL 2.10
6. downgrade SPL from 2.10 to 1.40
7. downgrade from WM5 Rom (It is some sort of HTC Standard WM5 Rom that my friend gave me, and my radio has gone back to 1.38.00.10 as the ROM comes with it.
8. upgrade to SPL 2.10
9. upgrade to Radio 1.40.30.00
Also, you may check out mrvanx's guide for downgrading to WM5 here.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26

bronx said:
...but just to let You know..
once You go black (2.5 ), You will never go back...
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actually... i'm on black 2.5 and thinking of going back... too many apps are wiggin out on wm6

I actually just did it. I was running the latest version of HardSPL, flashed to the new ATT ROM, and then created a updater to flash the SPL to the ATT spl.
Wasn't hard, and only took a few minutes. So, as of right now, my phone is running the new ATT ROM, and if I need to warranty it, I'm all set.

in the wiki it mentions..
If your vendor has released you original rom as a shipped upgrade, you just need to flash it.
If your vendor has not released any ROM upgrade yet, you cannot fall back to original ROM easily. You'll have to reconstruct the ROM out of a dumped ROM.
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I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.

crabwalker said:
The reason I have gone back to WM5 it is because I am suspecting the Chinese viewer (CE-Star) that i used does not work good in any flavor of WM6, it causes frequent lock-ups in WM6 that makes my phone pretty much unusable.
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if you only want to read chinese, but not input, there is an alternative to it. look for a cab which is named 'sunglobe.ttf register patch'.

Maybe the easiest way
First thing I would want to do is to Flash the unit to what is known as a "Hard SPL". For some reason it makes all the other flash work go a lot more smoothly. You can get instructions and software for that at:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php...ask=view&id=40&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=2
Once that is done, and it should take about 5-10 minutes depending upon the speed of your computer and USB connection, you can load whatever OS rom you desire.
You can get a carrier agreeable rom from the Cingular/ATT site:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8525/software-downloads.html
Or, and this should work, just link directly to the rob by clicking:
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/d...R_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship.exe
This should leave you at the latest and greatest of the WM5 packages from Cingular/ATT, and all should be well. And . . . if it hozes . . . which it should not, you should have no warrantee issues since you were trying to flash the upgrade that THEY were providing you. :-D
Laters,

d1eter said:
in the wiki it mentions..
I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.
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ROMs from Dopod HK or Singapore are very old ones. The SPL is 1.04. You may not be able to flash backward if you are with HardSPL v7. Also if your radio ROM is newer than 1.27, you may face problem when you flash the original (as it is packed with an old radio rom).
(Please correct me if I am wrong.)
To play safe, follow mrvanx' guide:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26

d1eter said:
in the wiki it mentions..
I'm using 838pro, what about the ROM which available to download from the dopod company website.
does it safe to just flash from it or do I need to repackage the ROM..?
thank you.
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After some readings and I have managed to used dutty's tool to recompiled the Dopod's WM5 English rom from the original Dopod shipped rom.
This rom has OS + Extended Rom ONLY.
No IPL, No SPL, No Radio.
I have tested and it works on my Hermes, and Bootloader and Radio stay as is. Please note your result may vary.
Here's the download link
http://rapidshare.com/files/29500131/WM5_Dopod_1.30.707.4__Huchison_3_AU__OS_ExtRom_only.7z
To play safe, I would suggest you to do the following prior flashing the OS rom.
1. Flash boot loader to Hard-SPL-V7
2. Flash your radio rom to 1.38. or 1.40

crabwalker said:
After some readings and I have managed to used dutty's tool to recompiled the Dopod's WM5 English rom from the original Dopod shipped rom.
This rom has OS + Extended Rom ONLY.
No IPL, No SPL, No Radio.
I have tested and it works on my Hermes, and Bootloader and Radio stay as is. Please note your result may vary.
Here's the download link
http://rapidshare.com/files/29500131/WM5_Dopod_1.30.707.4__Huchison_3_AU__OS_ExtRom_only.7z
To play safe, I would suggest you to do the following prior flashing the OS rom.
1. Flash boot loader to Hard-SPL-V7
2. Flash your radio rom to 1.38. or 1.40
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So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?

Why
mrvanx said:
So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?
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Why would anyone want to do that? A tested process that works time and time again?
And if you don't mind the compliment, all of your guides rock!

mrvanx said:
So in other words: do exactly what my guide says to do?
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Yes, just forgot to mentioned, I ripped the Bootloader and Radio all based on your (mrvanx) guide. It is great, the info provided is easy to follow, very clear and precise. Thanks.

What if LVSW_Trinity_WM6_v2.0.0.4 goes wrong during update?

I am using the french version of HTC 3600. I will foloww LVSW procedure for updating but what if it goes wrong !!
Can I simply re-apply the official HTC rom from the HTC web site? WIll that work ?
Thanks for helping
Dag

If you only flash OS, no problem. If you have hard-spl installed your device will be almost unbrickable.

With a new Hard Spl, I can restore an old ROM?

ZakMcRofl said:
If you only flash OS, no problem. If you have hard-spl installed your device will be almost unbrickable.
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can you explain me what hard-spl is ?

My question here is, will original ROM restore the splashscreen and initial bootscreen that was changed by LVSW?

So many questions
With a new Hard Spl, I can restore an old ROM?
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You can usually restore an old ROM even without Hard-SPL. It makes it a little easier because you can flash even ROMs that are not intended for your device (for example HTC Rom to Vodafone Compact GPS).
can you explain me what hard-spl is ?
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Sure. It is a replacement bootloader made by DES and later by Olipro. You'll find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1239088
LVSW offers it as a download as well, I don't know why he didn't include it in the update itself (nbh).
My question here is, will original ROM restore the splashscreen and initial bootscreen that was changed by LVSW?
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Yes, original ROM updates are what I call full updates: Bootloader, Splashscreens, OS, Radio. However they will only overwrite Olipro's Hard-SPL if you use Soft-SPL (sspl) for flashing. Keep that in mind if you want to send your device in for warranty repairs...
Enough noob questions answered For details use search, its not hard.

OK OK one more thing...
If I flash from mun_rus rom back to WM05 and take device for warranty... thay will not accept it?

If you flash it properly (load SSPL first, then run official update) they will have no way of telling the difference.
Obviously this only works if you have access to the official full update.

grega_slo said:
OK OK one more thing...
If I flash from mun_rus rom back to WM05 and take device for warranty... thay will not accept it?
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If your phone is the S300+ (SFR version of Trinity) it's gonna be hard. No SFR ROM is available yet. So you can find the OS part over here and you can save your extended ROM, but it seems to be hard to restore exactly as the same.

I`m just asking out of couriosity...
Flashed to muns SE rom works like a charm...

generic ROM before flashing new ROM?

Hi, I dont have my Softbanks TyN Hermes 200 base ROM. I reflashed ones to shaps WM6.0.
It is recomended to flash original ROM before reflashing to one of the latest ROMs.... is there a good generic I could use instead of my original ROM? or should I just flash the new ROM directly?
thanks!

Its usually recommended to flash to original ROM when you flash a hyperstorage ROM, ie. OS and ExtROM merged! If not, just flash them and it should be ok.
What i do is strip out just the OS and ExtROM from the orginal one and make a RUU just by themself. I flash this before i flash the ROM i like. That way, i dont mess with radio, IPL, SPL etc.

ai6908 said:
Its usually recommended to flash to original ROM when you flash a hyperstorage ROM, ie. OS and ExtROM merged! If not, just flash them and it should be ok.
What i do is strip out just the OS and ExtROM from the orginal one and make a RUU just by themself. I flash this before i flash the ROM i like. That way, i dont mess with radio, IPL, SPL etc.
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When I saw this post I thought exactly about this. Can you please post this "stripped" version of the official ROM, I'm growing tired of reflashing Radio every now and then. BTW, I was trying to do this a few days ago and got more confused than anything, so I just quit.
Thanks in advance,

dr_tracker said:
When I saw this post I thought exactly about this. Can you please post this "stripped" version of the official ROM, I'm growing tired of reflashing Radio every now and then. BTW, I was trying to do this a few days ago and got more confused than anything, so I just quit.
Thanks in advance,
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I dont have a rapidshare or any of the file sharing account and file is about 80MB, so i dont have a good way of uploading the file. Did you try using dutty's tool (can be found in any kitchen) to strip the RUU file and rebuild it again? That's what I did, if that helps.

ai6908 said:
I dont have a rapidshare or any of the file sharing account and file is about 80MB, so i dont have a good way of uploading the file. Did you try using dutty's tool (can be found in any kitchen) to strip the RUU file and rebuild it again? That's what I did, if that helps.
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Perfect... Just what I needed, thanks a lot...

ai6908 said:
Its usually recommended to flash to original ROM when you flash a hyperstorage ROM, ie. OS and ExtROM merged! If not, just flash them and it should be ok.
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Excellent, figured it was something like that. Thanks for the tip!

Hello,
I wanted to follow this method, but my original rom (softbank x01ht, wm5), is not available anymore. Can I use another generic rom, and in wm6 version? And using dutty's tool, are the "version" and "language" fieds important, or is it just for the info in the phone (as it will be a transition rom, I really don't care about it, even is it wasn't transition rom by the way)? Sorry for the noob questions, but I'm trying to avoid bricking my phone...
Toni

tonidekohlanta said:
Hello,
I wanted to follow this method, but my original rom (softbank x01ht, wm5), is not available anymore. Can I use another generic rom, and in wm6 version? And using dutty's tool, are the "version" and "language" fieds important, or is it just for the info in the phone (as it will be a transition rom, I really don't care about it, even is it wasn't transition rom by the way)? Sorry for the noob questions, but I'm trying to avoid bricking my phone...
Toni
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I am not sure about softbank, but if you can install any hermes ROM, then you should be good to go with any official hermes ROM.
I never change the version and language in dutty's tool when i create my own ROM's!

Ok thanks, that's all I needed! I will take the cingular rom as it seems it was the one which gave best results on hard reset issue.
Toni

OK, Noob education thread!!

OK, so I’m going to be getting a UK Orange branded Touch Diamond this week. My aim is to remove the Orange branding in the software and revert it to standard HTC black and white theme. As it would be out of the box if I bought one direct from HTC. I’ve no interest in any tweaks/improvements to the standard ROM (different radio ROMs etc) at the moment, maybe once I’ve managed it once successfully I’ll worry about that! I’ve spent a day or so reading these forums and though it seems complicated to a beginner I think I have it all figured out now! I would appreciate however if someone experienced could cast an eye over what I’m about to do and let me know if I’ve made any errors that could result in me ruining an expensive piece of kit!
My understanding is that there are basically 3 stages to flashing a new ROM onto a Diamond, backing up, loading hardSPL and loading the desired ROM. So my plan is to do the following:
1. Back up all operator settings (WAP, MMS, GPRS etc) or use something like PIM Backup (though I won’t have any data on my Diamond as it will be brand new!)
2. So, first I download the signed version of hardSPL (1.40), from here (http://modmydiamond.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=2 ). My understanding is that by using the signed version I’ll reduce to a minimum any chance of buggering up my Diamond and basically it will stop me from doing anything stupid!!
3. Then follow the instructions on that same page, which will install hardSPL.
4. Now find a ROM that I want to load onto the Diamond, from what I can tell this (1.34.831.1 WWE from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399680) is the latest HTC released ROM in English (PLEASE correct me if this is wrong!!)
5. Follow the instructions detailed here to install the ROM (http://modmydiamond.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26&limit=1&limitstart=4). As I understand it, when I unzip the ROM that I have downloaded, it includes the 6 files listed on that page, including the ROM update utility.
As I understand it following the instructions on that final page will leave me with a Diamond that is not in any way Orange branded and has the latest official HTC released ROM on it (black and white themed menus etc etc).
So, is everything that I’ve written correct, and if I follow these instructions will I avoid ruining my phone? If I’ve missed anything to check before I start or that I need to do please point me to the thread that explains it so that I can look over it.
Hopefully over time this thread can be a one stop shop for absolute noobs who are unsure of how exactly to go about flashing their device, and in what order to do things!!
Thanks
JP

I'm still a noob, too, but two things you should make sure:
- Have your battery on the phone fully charged
- Disable standby on battery and on AC power in the phone and on your main PC so they don't shut down during the flash process
I just flashed my Diamond successfully today, it's actually quite easy if you get the right steps - and thosee above look just like what I did.
Good luck!
W0nk0

4. Now find a ROM that I want to load onto the Diamond, from what I can tell this (1.34.831.1 WWE from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399680) is the latest HTC released ROM in English (PLEASE correct me if this is wrong!!)
Really, that's the first and not recommended.
1.93 is the last, but not very obvious where it is released from.
1.37 is what I know the last official release.

Orange UK ROM is 1.37...
When flashing one for a friend I exprienced issues trying to flash HardSPL with 2 errors but managed it in the end with Olipro HardSPL 1.3 the but Diamond project team 2 rom on, the flashed radio rom back to 05.

Riel said:
4. Now find a ROM that I want to load onto the Diamond, from what I can tell this (1.34.831.1 WWE from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399680) is the latest HTC released ROM in English (PLEASE correct me if this is wrong!!)
Really, that's the first and not recommended.
1.93 is the last, but not very obvious where it is released from.
1.37 is what I know the last official release.
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1.93 is supposed to be the last official stock ROM from HTC (yes, it's English - WWE). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408281
How do you tell if it really is stock and uncooked? No idea, but it works very well indeed and is very responsive.
Oh, and the dev hard spl works to flash 1.93; some others I tried didn't. YMMV

Windoze9t8 said:
Orange UK ROM is 1.37...
When flashing one for a friend I exprienced issues trying to flash HardSPL with 2 errors but managed it in the end with Olipro HardSPL 1.3 the but Diamond project team 2 rom on, the flashed radio rom back to 05.
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Does that mean that the Orange branded ROM is 1.37? Which one should I be using to remove the Orange branding and revert to the standard HTC interface?

Need help with my Toshiba Portege G810...

Hi,
I bought this phone in Taiwan without thinking too much of it. The pre-installed Windows Mobile 6.1 is in Chinese - that's fine. But I cannot believe that it doesn't let me change it to an English system...! My friend's HTC Touch lets him do that. How's that possible? I thought changing language would be one of the fundamental functions?
Anyway, does anyone know if I can ever change my Windows from Chinese to English? And how I would do it, if there were ways of doing it?
Thanks...!

Can anyone help...?

the language is located in the rom and flashing it with an english rom should make it english
dont know anything about flashing toshibas myself though

If you dump the rom, probably one of the talented people that frequent xda-developers could help you.

btprice2001 said:
If you dump the rom, probably one of the talented people that frequent xda-developers could help you.
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what do you mean by "dumping" the rom...?
i guess the portege g810 is just not popular enough for people to develop anything for it... maybe i just need to wait...

From the wiki: "The ROM holds the Operating system and other components such as the bluetooth and wifi stacks. The ROM is accompanied by the Radio, Ext_ROM, SPL and IPL."
Basically if you dump the ROM from your device, the language files can be changed, and then you could re-flash the modified ROM to your device. I'm not sure how to do all of that, but there are many people here that do know. I believe the first step would be to dump the ROM from your device. Please see the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680

btprice2001 said:
From the wiki: "The ROM holds the Operating system and other components such as the bluetooth and wifi stacks. The ROM is accompanied by the Radio, Ext_ROM, SPL and IPL."
Basically if you dump the ROM from your device, the language files can be changed, and then you could re-flash the modified ROM to your device. I'm not sure how to do all of that, but there are many people here that do know. I believe the first step would be to dump the ROM from your device. Please see the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
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thanx! one more question - this thread you posted is for Kaiser - does it also apply to Portege? so would it be ok for me to flash my portege with HTC/Kaiser roms?

katsudon said:
thanx! one more question - this thread you posted is for Kaiser - does it also apply to Portege? so would it be ok for me to flash my portege with HTC/Kaiser roms?
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NO!!! That would ruin your device. I posted a link to that thread because it contained instruction for dumping a ROM. You can only flash your Portege G810 with Portege G810 ROMS. That's why you'd have to dump the ROM from your own device, modify it, and then flash it back to your device

katsudon said:
Hi,
I bought this phone in Taiwan without thinking too much of it. The pre-installed Windows Mobile 6.1 is in Chinese - that's fine. But I cannot believe that it doesn't let me change it to an English system...! My friend's HTC Touch lets him do that. How's that possible? I thought changing language would be one of the fundamental functions?
Anyway, does anyone know if I can ever change my Windows from Chinese to English? And how I would do it, if there were ways of doing it?
Thanks...!
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Please dump the device, and upload the rom somewhere and provide link here plz.

Does anyone know where I can get the English WM6.1 ROM for the Toshiba G810 ?
I also brought the Chinese version Any help appreciated

zipspeak said:
Does anyone know where I can get the English WM6.1 ROM for the Toshiba G810 ?
I also brought the Chinese version Any help appreciated
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Hi. First you must try to dump the ROM and upload it somewhere (share it with XDA. I guess some of the masters are looking for the G810 rom).
Try to follow the steps described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=238945
For translating the rom to another language i read somewhere here a post that help you throug. I'll try to find it later on.
Sorry for may bad english. I'm a little rusty!
Cheers,
Draco

zipspeak said:
Does anyone know where I can get the English WM6.1 ROM for the Toshiba G810 ?
I also brought the Chinese version Any help appreciated
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Are you able to dump this rom please?

zipspeak said:
Does anyone know where I can get the English WM6.1 ROM for the Toshiba G810 ?
I also brought the Chinese version Any help appreciated
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can you dump tis rom or provide a few files from it for development please?

Maybe I can help... I own a Toshiba G810 with Portuguese WM 6.1
I'm a bit confused with the instructions for dumping...
I'll read it more carefull and I'll make the dump
Is this the easiest way to make the dump? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=238945
I know this forum is dedicated to Qtek/HTC stuff, but if you guys can do any development for the G810 it would be great

English ROM in HK is available for download !
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/product/etsg/cmt/english/asian/g810/g810_rom.htm

anyone knows how we can flash the English ROM over the Chinese version? I tried it but the update software checks the language and stopped me moving forward.
Any method to flash it from the SD card? I have got the flash.bin from the EXE file downloaded at the official site.

chanklb said:
anyone knows how we can flash the English ROM over the Chinese version? I tried it but the update software checks the language and stopped me moving forward.
Any method to flash it from the SD card? I have got the flash.bin from the EXE file downloaded at the official site.
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Here is what i've done with successfully flash.
...Anyway HK English ROM that i mentioned in my previous post is not actually English ROM.
As far as i know,It's Chinese rom with English Keyboard...
1.Download the DSUU that can be flash to your G810.
2.Download the DSUU that u want to flash to your G810.
3.During run DSUU,go to \windows\temp on your PC,grab FLASH.BIN of each DSUU.
4.use Ultraedit open FLASH.BIN in hex mode,change the first line of the file from 2. to the same
as FLASH.BIN from 1.
5.you are now ready to flash your G810,during running DSUU in 1. after it extract stuffs to \windows\temp
just copy modified FLASH.BIN overwrite it.
6.wait until everything complete, Done!
i'm now waiting for FLASH.BIN from English ROM...Anyone Could help would be appreciate.
i already contact toshiba support in Europe but seems like they just want to sell only the phone.
i 'm now having this Chinese brick and promise to myself not to deal with toshiba product again.

And finally,
Merry Christmas Toshiba.

It works and I have my device on English ROM now ! Very well done teddyking!

I need the same but in Spanish
I ask you for help in order to install in my Toshiba G810 the Spanish ROM of Windows Mobile 6.1. I do not have the file to install and also I do not know the procedure for doing this one.