Cannot edit Registry on Tilt 2: did they lock us out? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I've owned an AT&T 8525, and Tilt. I've now got the Tilt 2, and and worked around most of the bugs to make this a usable phone with hotfixes. I'm trying to edit the registry for tethering per other posts on this forum, and I get an "Access Denied" for that registry key. I've used two different reg editors. BTW, they are desktop-based mobile phone reg editors. Did AT&T get smart and block editing on certain keys?

Don't use a desktop Registry editor. Use one from your phone, I use this one

wgrayson said:
I've owned an AT&T 8525, and Tilt. I've now got the Tilt 2, and and worked around most of the bugs to make this a usable phone with hotfixes. I'm trying to edit the registry for tethering per other posts on this forum, and I get an "Access Denied" for that registry key. I've used two different reg editors. BTW, they are desktop-based mobile phone reg editors. Did AT&T get smart and block editing on certain keys?
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check this out: http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/
it can unlock reg keys from windows

wgrayson said:
I've owned an AT&T 8525, and Tilt. I've now got the Tilt 2, and and worked around most of the bugs to make this a usable phone with hotfixes. I'm trying to edit the registry for tethering per other posts on this forum, and I get an "Access Denied" for that registry key. I've used two different reg editors. BTW, they are desktop-based mobile phone reg editors. Did AT&T get smart and block editing on certain keys?
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I used SK Tools, works on the fone as the first mentioned here... Although its not a free program. I did in fact do what u r trying to do with my Tilt 2. Its also possible that, if ur using windows 7 or Vista, that u need to open the program as "Administrator". (Right click and open program as Administrator)... Ive found this has been a problem for many programs I use between the fone and the computer. Hope this helps.

Figured it out!
Thanks for the reply. I read a couple of similar threads that suggested the free CERegEditor that featured an "unlock"that allowed me to make registry edits. Worked like a charm. Which is great. I can now officially keep my tilt2 because I've worked through nearly all of its problems and deficiencies. Being able to tether was was BIIIIIIG deal for me.

Wouldn't it have been easier to flash a custom ROM?
Moving your thread to general, not development.
Russ

I think you need to enable / unlock rapi access. Do a search for enablerapinew.cab. I believe it is also packaged with HardSPL.

Wasn't at the point yet of flashing custom ROM
I've been tweaking HTC 8525s, 8925s, and now Tilt2s for about 4 years now. I wasn't ready yet to flash a custom ROM. That would have been the last resort.

wgrayson said:
I've been tweaking HTC 8525s, 8925s, and now Tilt2s for about 4 years now. I wasn't ready yet to flash a custom ROM. That would have been the last resort.
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Ive had the 8525, the Tilt, the Fuze and now the Tilt 2. Flashing custom ROMs r VERY worth it. If u have any tweaks worth sharing, me and Im sure the entire XDA community would appreciate it

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Help request - setting registry (owner info etc) from a cab

Hiya, I've been playing about with the extended rom and have the system in great shape, apart from some registry settings, such as the owner info and device name. It would be kinda handy to have these setup automatically but I am totally unable to do it... I'm presuming it's because there is something else that has to be done other than simply set the keys.
I'm using PHM reg ed to export keys as well as simply creating them manually and am using WinCE Cab Manager to make the cabs. I'm on the original O2 Exec rom (well, most of it )
When I run the cab (automatically from a hard reset or manually), I can see the values in the registry but they never appear on the today screen. I've tried a variety of power cycling, soft resetting etc but the today screen is never updated - it always says "Tap here to set owner info". If I do that, the registry keys are cleared out...
If anyone can shed some light on this I'd be grateful - for a small problem it's taking up a lot of time! :?
Cheers!
I've not gone down the .CAB route, but just import these and other settings from a .reg file and have never had this problem.
When I have to install from scratch, the first install is Resco's Explorer (which contains a Registry Editor), then execute the .reg file.
Almost sounds as if the registry changes are not being saved. Is it only these particular settings or are other changes not registered?
Well, I have created loads of CAB files in WinCE CAB Manager to set up my phone, tomtom, etc.
I Used the same method as you. The only difference being that I reset (automatically) after I install them. Could this be it?
Ahh, which WinCE CAB Manager version you running? You need the new beta 1.2 version to be able to create WM5 compatible CAB Files. Can this have something to do with it?
moghisi101 said:
... The only difference being that I reset (automatically) after I install them. Could this be it?
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Probably the cause. I know I've read and experienced that I must allow the device to flush after changes before I reset it. I usually turn it off, then wait a minute or two before I soft-reset.
Ahh, which WinCE CAB Manager version you running? You need the new beta 1.2 version to be able to create WM5 compatible CAB Files. Can this have something to do with it?
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As yet I'm not using CABs/Cab-Manager. Couldn't find one when I looked - except at ridiculous money, which I wasn't prepared to waste - so I'm just using the .reg-files manually
Guys, many thanks for the replies!
I'm using my 15 free goes (and hibernating ) on version 1.1 of WCM at the mo, it's too expensive to buy as I would only use it for this as far as I can see - I'll head off and look for the beta next.
I have tried power cycling, pausing while off and resetting as well as soft-resetting from software, but not doing it automatically 'cos I don't know how!
@moghisi101: Out of curiousity, how are you automatically performing a soft-reset and thanks for the heads-up about beta 1.2!
I have written an Autorun.exe file, much like the one in the extended rom. It does not however read a config.txt file. It runs the CAB files (with my apps and settings in) and then resets.
I don't remember where I put the code, so I can't compile one for you. It only needs a slight change from the Autorun sample Microsoft Supply.
At the moment I can set up pretty much everything on the phone. Button Lock, GPRS Settings (including GPRS Auto Attach, etc), Owner Info, Default Volume, Today Screen Plugins (order and enabled/disabled), Date/Time, Screen Config, Infrared off by default.....the list goes on. When I Hard Reboot, It skips the welcome screen (all the time settings etc) and I've got it to ask me which Operator Settings to Install (eg Vodafone, o2, Orange, Tmobile Splash Screens and GPRS connections).
It's much better than the default Qtek, i-mate, and (definately) o2 ROMs...
Just a thought!
Are you annotating your .reg files with semi-colon at the start of a line?
With the PC, I've always annotated my .reg import-files, so that I could remember why I'd done something later on, but found that *no* lines after those annotation would be imported on the Exec (Universal). Don't know if this is specifically a WM5 issue or not. If you put the annotations at the end of the .reg file, all the preceeding key/value content lines *are* imported.
@astage: Interesting about the annotations, that must have caused some pain before you figured it out! I don't have annotations in my reg files as I'm not really using reg files I'm building keys in WinCE Cab Manager by both importing reg exports and typing them in manually.
Unfortunately, the beta version is only available to registered users, so I'll have to abandon that one for now.
@moghisi101: It sounds like you're sorted! That's basically what I had in mind myself, except that I was thinking smaller
Thanks for the thought about compiling an exe, I was thinking I may have to ask a mate to make something like that so if you do find the code and feel like posting one, I'm sure the community would thank you!
I've been looking for something that would just install cabs etc then reboot but not found one yet on the web... I'm a UI designer and so am wary about going down the visual studio path for fear I may start to favour all-grey interfaces :twisted: .
Which autorun sample are you referring to though? I guess I may have to get my hands dirty after all!
No, I don't annotate them, so I haven't come accross this. But, if you save some Keys using a Reg Editor and then use Import in WinCE Cab Manager...ahhh, I think i may know the problem!
1. Don't put Comments in Reg Files
2. Don't use import in WinCE CAB Manager! If the reg key has data above a certain length it will split it to next line using a ";", but WinCE Cab Manager assumes this is the end of the data. So, your Owner Info could be being entered in incorrectly as a result. You have to copy-paste the reg key into a new dword, etc into WinCE Cab Manager. i.e. DONT IMPORT
I hope that vaguely made sense
Yup! Clear as a bell, thanks! I'll try that in a mo, just rebooting. Import is *sooo* tempting though, so simple... Curse my weakness for the easy path!
Hi. Here is Microsoft's Autorun Code (I have that)
You have to make slight changes to allow for reboot at end. It's fully annotated if you dont understand what it means. BTW, you dont need Visual Studio. Infact it's probably the worst root. Use Microsoft's eMbedded Visual C++ 4.0 to compile this for Windows CE, Mobile 2003SE, (or Mobile 5?). It's Microsoft but it's FREE!?
Sweet! Two terms you don't hear very often in the same context are Microsoft and free! Nice one, thanks! I'm downloading Microsoft's eMbedded Visual C++ 4.0 as I type.
You actually solved the problem already though, in a way, pointing out that WCM truncates "strings". I opened an exported key in Textpad and tidied it up (removing the end of line "\" and the "\n\t") then saved it and imported the file into WinCE Cab Manager, made my cab, installed it and soft rebooted from SPB PocketPlus without going back to the Today screen. It worked!
I'm a big fan of Textpad and will use that to make a macro to tidy up exported reg keys so I can import them easily (another triumph for the easy path!).
You, Sir, are a DUDE!
Edit: 16.4 kbps from MS... :roll: For anyone else who decides to go down this path, the killer bit is to make sure your key values don't get truncated! Open the .reg in a text editor and make sure any really long values, like binaries, are all on one nice long line! It doesn't seem to make any difference if you soft-reset from an app or use the stylus btw.
Shame the baby kept us up all last night! I've *got* to get some sleep or I'll end up doing god knows what to my device by accident!
Thanks for the help moghisi101!
Hehe, Gee Thanks. And btw, Textpad r0x!
If you want to do that autorun thing.....familiarize yourself with the whole 2577 method (search it and you'll understand). If you don't want crappy o2 Customisations, etc on your device then you are better off just editing the extended rom, edit the config.txt, add your configuration CABs, and then every time you hard reset all your customisations will appear! NO programming involved. If you then add "welcome.not" file to SD Card, the Welcome screen at hard reset wont appear (if you code this in your autorun file it will work on ALL devices, not just a few including HTC). BUT only do this if your CAB files contain stylus screen settings, and time settings. However, as this is not viable in all situations the 2577 method can be much better. Especially when selling a piece of software, etc (automatic installation and configuration), as I do.
I might email you, later on, a video of what happens when I hard reset my device to give you an idea of what you can do (at the least) and hopefully you can go on to improve on that.
Thought I will give you a kick start. Here are some Regedits I could make for you. Took me a short while, but there are loads more for inbuilt apps (e.g Messagig, etc) but I coudn't remember where the reg values where.
Please note, I couldn't find any of the WM5 ones...completely forgotten them. But these should give you and idea as to where they are. Also, look here in the Wiki
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Hacks_WM5
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Hacks
Some of the ones I have given are from here, but many more I found myself
Hope it helps you (become a millionaire - don't forget me )
You can see the solution here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34525
Thanks to Bayondthetech for the CAB file.
Hehe. I feel like a n00b now (which I am really). I hadn't seen that. But I think mine does a couple of extra things that he didn't post....?
Bye
Wow! Holy Cr*p! Thanks for all those reg files! :bows:
I'd looked at BTT's post before and was hoping to use his cabs as a guide. Unfortunately, they aren't currently available (from what I've read, he generated so much traffic with his downloads that his host yanked his connection and he's in the process of moving sites).
Thanks to moghisi101 and a few other posters on this forum, I don't need them any more!
@moghisi101: I had already edited my extendedRom's config file to load and run cabs I store on the SD card (to keep the extRom below 10mb) and realised last night that that already does the auto reset for me, so life gets another bit easier These reg files rock though! Shame you're not running tomom5 yourself, I'll have to sort those out myself!
The next thing to try is to export the BT settings for my paired devices - I'm hoping it will be possible to restore those automatically too.
Attached is the TextPad macro (although it is too simple to call it that really!) that I'm using to tidy up the reg keys for import into WinCE Cab Manager, hope it helps someone!
Post that video!
Hey
Actually, I have TomTom 5....up until 5.10 I edited TomTom's Cab itself but I just haven't had a chance with 5.21 (need to use CabWiz now, not WinCE Cab Manager - no full WM5 support lol).
The TomTom 3 Today settings is same for TomTom 5 if you want to change order/hide/unhide. Most of the other settings are in a .cfg file on SD card for Home Address, etc. Only a couple other settings use Registry...
Anyway....glad to be of some service
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... (need to use CabWiz now, not WinCE Cab Manager - no full WM5 support lol). ...
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Had a brief conversation this afternoon with a friend who uses Microsoft's CabWiz to produce .cab files for bespoke software.
He mentioned that (with CabWiz) if you use the .cab to apply registry entries, then the .cab must also install something, a text file or similar. I can't recall if he said it would otherwise not create the .cab correctly, or that the reg entries may not be applied correctly.
Not yet tried it myself - will have to wait until after the bloody Tax Return is finished!
Strange, It works fine for me? Was his the newer CabWiz that you can use with WM5, like mine?

Can a Windows Mobile 2k3 PPC be displayed in landscape mode?

Hey guys,
I have an Ipaq h6315 and it doesnt look like they will be releasing a WM5 upgrade for my system; therefore, I'd like to find out if anyone know of a program, tool, registry key or anything that will allow a Windows mobile 2k3 system to change the display into Landscape?
If you know of anything that might work and could share the info with me i would really appreciate it!
Will V.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38797&highlight=rotate
V
Thanks for the reply Vijay. Is that the name of the application i have to look for?
PHM tools?
Thanks again!
WV
Is the 6315 running 2k3 or 2k3se? The original 2k3 didn't include screen rotate, but some people on this forum found a way of copying the Screen Rotation Service from a SE device to a 2k3 device. It was quite a while ago, but there will be something on this forum.
The original topic can be found here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12481&highlight=screen+rotation+service
HTH
Fin
Findus,
I have regular Windows Mobile 2003 (non-SE)
thank you for giving me that thread info, i'll look and se if it'll work with my device!
Once again, thank you!
I installed the tool posted on the thread you gave me but unfortunately for me it didnt work. Maybe because mine is an Ipaq and those dlls are patched for a himalaya (maybe)
Just wanted to thank you anyways!
I have no specific idea about WM2003 vs WM2003se, but you want to try PHM key tools or something like that. It includes a lot of useful shortcuts, including screenrotation.
V
Thanks again Vijay!
Would you happen to know if PHM Tools is the same as PHM power toys? I've been looking for it and so far all i've found from PHM is the Registry editor and Power toys.
Thanks for the help!
By the way i tried "Virtual Display" from http://www.nyditot.com/Home.asp and it rotates the screen pretty nice and it has other useful options; however, when accessing the mobile phone application in landscape mode only numbers 1 thru 6 show on the dialpad screen
I'd like to try PHM tools and see if its able to display the dialpad correctly.
I have it
I have a copy of Nyditot and when I used wm2003 I thought is was very good.
Yes, Nydiot is great.
PHM - not sure what it's called now, I've taken my installation apart, but basically I have PHM Keys. Might be part of Powertoys. They're used with voice command etc as well, but contain a bunch of shortcuts. Try them all, they're all useful IMHO!
V
Vijay: Cool! I'm going to download the PHM Power toys since that's the only thing i've found so far (too bad i cant do it now since i dont have the usb cable at work LOL)
Littld: Were you able to see all numbers in the keypad when you used Nyditot in landscape mode?
I still have the tool installed in my PPC but when i try to use the phone in Landscape mode the numbers (dialpad) does not display all the buttons (i'll try to get a screen shot wheni get home)

Change Your Homepage in Pocket IE

I have the beta of WM6 from T-mobile on my dash and was really annoyed that I couldn't just assign a new site for it to open to. So I looked and tweaked and here's how to do it
with a registry editor go to:
HKLM\software\microsoft\Internet Explorer\About URLS
Change home_0409 to the URL you want I use http://www.msnbc.com
now reset your phone. there you have it.
cool, thanks for posting this. This has been driving me crazy,lol. It worked for me w/out resetting my Dash. Great job!
will this work for WM5?
im wondering the same thing will this work with WM5?
In WM5 I went to About URLS and there's Blank and Home (believe it was those two, I know there was two) and I tried them both and it didn't work for me. There was no Home_0409 on the WM5. Might be cause we aren't technically on a 'homepage' we're on the favorites...
That's great, it works!
And I've been using WM6 on my Excalibur for a few days now, and done a few reg tweaks, and i've noticed you don't have to reset the device alot of the time. This tweak didn't require a reboot, nor did editting the Joggr settings. Maybe MS finally figured out how to make a device you don't have to reboot every 16 seconds. YEY!
change homepage
Thanks wm1 worked for me.
On my S620 when IE opens it opens the favourites folder.
How can I make my Dash do this?

New to the Excalibur

Hi all! This is my first time posting in here as I'm just now getting one of the "new" T-mobile Dash phones. I've been reading the different threads, especially the ROM threads, trying to figure out which is the most stable/usable.
I know my way around PDAs pretty well, having had an IPAQ 1945 and then a Dell Axim x30 (the 624 MHz processor one), which I still love and have with me constantly. But this new Dash will be my first smartphone and my first entry into the WinMo 6+ world.
I'm interested in hearing which ROMs you guys like and what are some of the good and bad with them. I've read the version changes and all of that, but there's nothing like reviews from the guys that use the software/hardware every day. Basically what I'm looking for in a ROM is:
1) WinMo 6.1
2) Updated radios for bluetooth and wi-fi (might as well have the hardware at its best if you've paid for it, right?)
3) SDHC compatibility (Anyone know what the largest size memory card is that the Dash (Excalibur) can read and fully utilize? I've heard 16 is the max.)
4) Stability. If the phone isn't constantly crashing, it'd be great. haha
So to all you Excalibur users: What ROM do you recommend and why?
Thanks all for your time and I'm glad to be joining the Excalibur community!!!
~Walter
Your best bet is to flash them all and see the ROM you like as best ROM there is none, it's down to personal preference, won't take more than 30 mins to get base set, with regards to SDHC all WM6.1 support 16GB "taken from other threadz" as i only have tryed 8GB.
Hope that helps.
i had used the 6.1 final from kavana, and flashed to the rose Rom by Ricky and Stylez last night. so far, i like the Rose rom the best. but like said, its all personal preference as to which is the best. and like Stylez sad, 16gb is what people say will work. i havent even tried anything over a 2gb yet lol
I tried the various 6.1 roms from this site and from my experiance with them, IMHO I think the Kavana 080408 WWE is the most stable and less laggy over the Rose 1.7 rom.
But I have to agree its all about personal opinion and what features you are looking for. Your just gonna have to try them out for yourself and decide wich one you like the most.
MY favorite improvement is that I can now use my 4gig SD over the 2gig I had to use with inMo 6, I was so dissapointed about that.
Thank you guys for the response. I'll start with the suggested ROMs and then work my way around to others.
I just got off the phone with t-mobile, my Dash should get here either tomorrow or Friday. I'm going to spend the whole weekend flashing ROMs and loading all my favorite software onto it! haha
Okay, a related question: I've been looking into Java games for the phone since it seems most of the ROMs on here have Jbed or Esmertec Java loaded on them. The games list phones they're meant to run on, but I know on my old Sony Ericsson phone I could run Java games that weren't meant for that device, but were compatible.
So are there any phones "like" the Excalibur that I should keep in mind when doing my Java game buying? (Like will games that work on the Blackjack II most likely work on my new Excalibur?)
Thanks again!
Help please!
I thought I will use this thread since I am new to the Dash too.
I just got a couple of easy questions. I tried to look here and even on Google, but I either suck at searching or the answers I am looking for are not there.
I read the wiki on how to flash and I read that: If necessary, unlock your phone using either the SDA Application Unlock program or Surreal Networks' AppUnlock or both. This will enable third-party software installation. Not performing this step properly is the primary reason why Error 270 happens.
So, either or? The reason I ask is because I would do both just to be safe, but SDA unzips fine but Surreal does not. When I unzip it, it copies the files that are in the zip in the folder I chose to unzip them into. Do I have to do both? And if so whats wrong and how do I fix this. Same thing happens for other supposed CAB files I downloaded. They just copy themselves but don't "change" into one cab file to be installed. Same happens with tegic.
romupdateutility.exe... where do I find it and what is it? I saw all the videos possible about flashing Kavana's and even Jamerican doesn't use this.
Is it true that if I update to Kavana I will not be able to use MMS and the Internet or are those an older update problems? The new 6.1 works flawlessly correct? (I saw a thread on how to fix the sms, mms, and web problem) Where can I find an original uncooked WinMo 6.1 update?
It doesn't seem hard to flash, but I am a newbie to this smart phones WinMo stuff. My Dash, I got it yesterday and I already run low in memory. I closed all the apps and I still only have 7.212 Kb of memory! That sucks! I hope WM 6.1 is better because WM 6.0 is not good.
Captain Totti,
Please read the sticky "guide to flashing"
With re: to surreal check our RoseRom remade first post there is a guide to flash click the if stuck @ 3%, as both files & what to do there..
Re: MMS either connection setup or input of settings manually will work.
stylez.
Capitan Totti you will not be dissapointed in 6.1. Imagine your drowning in a pool and someone finally decides to pull you out of the water and you finally get to breathe, thats what going to 6.1 feels like! IMO WinMo 6 is complete garbage and 6.1 should be the standard for every phone out there thats running 6.
Flashing is very simple as long as you read the directions. Good luck!
Oh I have been reading a lot alright! Yes, it does not seem hard, but I just wanted to make sure I don't brick the phone.
Double post.
I screwed it up the first few times (from not reading the directions first) and still came out ok.
I found some good threads and done a lot of reading, but I guess no one had this problem so far but me. As I said above, I got the tegicet9 files and also the fullet9 files... (I am Italian so I would like to have both Italian and english on the phone) but when I unzip them into a folder I called New Folder for all my unzipping... they just copy themselves and don't change into one icon like say the SDA unlock or the USPL thing I got makes itself as more than one folder... ?? Thanks.
Was wondering if I should also call T-Mobile to SIM Unlock the phone, you know so I can use the Dash with any SIM. I am gonna have to do it anyway for when I go to Italy but I was wondering if NOT sim unlocking the Dash and then upgrading will cause issues on the phone. ???
So far it seems easy.
Connect Dash, run SDA unlock from desktop, once its done unzip (if you have not before) SurrealNetAppUnlock (which is another file that does not unzip for some reason), place it in My Documents (I don't have a memory card yet), go to Dash itself, go to File Explorer and install it from Dash itself. Once done turn off Dash.... turn it back on connected to ActiveSync, run USPL.Bat (Mine says USPL.Batch but I take it its the same), click enter on keyboard and ok on dash when prompt to, after a bit it will go black then white (bootloader mode), open RUU.Kavana and follow the steps (if I pass 3% I know I am good)... now I got a question... When the upgrading is complete 100% and you can click finish... I know it does a cold reboot, do I have to (ever? I've seen videos and all but this part is not clear also sound wise on say YouTube) unplug the usb cable or no?I know that for et9 I got to just place it and install it on the Dash but like I said, it does not unzip insto an installable file. If someone can read this and answer my few questions and help, I will be done hacking this baby in less than 30 minutes. Thanks

Tab Application Redirection

Hello first post here...
Have the new HTC TuochPro2 and am trying to get the email tab to point to my good messaging application instead of the default windows active sync- whatever crap.
It looks like the data is stored in HKLM/software/htc/manila/configuration/3 key and points to a xxx.page name... with [[IDS_EMAILTITLE]] string as well- is there any way to edit this? it seems to be pointing to a Manilla://email.page file? can i modify that somehow to point to the goodlink application?
I have tried Advanced_config, and checking out remote reg entried- maybe i missed an older post.
Thank in advance
Hmmmm. Out of curiousity, what version of Goodlink do you have?
I have v5.0.3.25 EN (under About Goodlink) on a WINMO 6.1 (Tmobile Touch Pro unlocked on ATT plan).
I can launch calendards, notes, tasks.. but EMAIL doesnt seem to launch..
Also, a lot of apps (say from START > IE or from the TouchPro launchpad) doesnt seem to want to launch. Wierd..
Goodlink worked fine on my ATT FUZE without issues.. I just upgraded.. hope I don't have to revert back to the teen tiny fuze.

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