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What does the number of Referrals in user profile statistics mean?

vichet007 said:
What does the number of Referrals in user profile statistics mean?
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You can either, create a referrals URL, so that you give this to your friends, and they join via the URL and you get a referral.
Or
When registering (I'm told) there is a field to enter the name of an existing member who referred you to this site.
Dave

I've wondered about that too.
Thanks for clearing it up.

DaveShaw said:
You can either, create a referrals URL, so that you give this to your friends, and they join via the URL and you get a referral.
Or
When registering (I'm told) there is a field to enter the name of an existing member who referred you to this site.
Dave
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I still have absolutely no idea as to how I have come to have four of them Don't suppose there's a way to see who I referred?

ben_duder said:
I still have absolutely no idea as to how I have come to have four of them Don't suppose there's a way to see who I referred?
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Not in the Mod CP, maybe your posts inspired someone to join, remember a lot of people only join to download attachments .

DaveShaw said:
Not in the Mod CP, maybe your posts inspired someone to join, remember a lot of people only join to download attachments .
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Haha yeah, I doubt my contributions have encouraged them to though

ben_duder said:
Haha yeah, I doubt my contributions have encouraged them to though
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Surely 1 of the 609 must be worth something...
Now time to scour my 7000 for something worth while

DaveShaw said:
Surely 1 of the 609 must be worth something...
Now time to scour my 7000 for something worth while
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You'd be surprised I tend to be less helpful when I try to be, so maybe I should just flame my way to the big 1000
PS: If you're not too busy, can you mention to the powers that be the idea of having your phone, ROM and radio in your username bar (the thing to the left of each post - don't know what it's called...). It was mentioned in this thread as it went a little off topic in the second page, but it seems to have fizzled out a bit.
I think it would be a very useful idea as a lot of support threads ask for such information and quite a lot of users would rather not keep it in their signatures. It also standardises the layout of such things so you can quickly check which phone/ROM/whatever the user is talking about.
I suppose the issues would arise when someone has more than two or three phones as it would make the posts longer, but even then it wouldn't get so bad until it hit around five devices, as it's just two or three lines for each one. Maybe a drop-down box could be used for the device and we could recommend only including primary devices in that, while keeping older ones for your signature only.

ben_duder said:
You'd be surprised I tend to be less helpful when I try to be, so maybe I should just flame my way to the big 1000
PS: If you're not too busy, can you mention to the powers that be the idea of having your phone, ROM and radio in your username bar (the thing to the left of each post - don't know what it's called...). It was mentioned in this thread as it went a little off topic in the second page, but it seems to have fizzled out a bit.
I think it would be a very useful idea as a lot of support threads ask for such information and quite a lot of users would rather not keep it in their signatures. It also standardises the layout of such things so you can quickly check which phone/ROM/whatever the user is talking about.
I suppose the issues would arise when someone has more than two or three phones as it would make the posts longer, but even then it wouldn't get so bad until it hit around five devices, as it's just two or three lines for each one. Maybe a drop-down box could be used for the device and we could recommend only including primary devices in that, while keeping older ones for your signature only.
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It has already been suggested by some other mods, I can't recall who .

Okay, cool. Thanks!
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Thanks for explanation Dave. Got it now.
DaveShaw said:
You can either, create a referrals URL, so that you give this to your friends, and they join via the URL and you get a referral.
Or
When registering (I'm told) there is a field to enter the name of an existing member who referred you to this site.
Dave
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I could have sworn that at one point I'd been able to see who my referred sign-ups were, but I can't for the life of me find it now.
I've got 24, and although that's not a lot I'm a bit stumped as to how!
Is there a way to see who has signed up due to my referrals?

johncmolyneux said:
I could have sworn that at one point I'd been able to see who my referred sign-ups were, but I can't for the life of me find it now.
I've got 24, and although that's not a lot I'm a bit stumped as to how!
Is there a way to see who has signed up due to my referrals?
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I don't think that is something you can see yourself.

pulser_g2 said:
I don't think that is something you can see yourself.
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Poo. Ah well, cheers mate

Old thread, but wanted to post the method for creating a referrals URL since Dave's link above did not work..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/register.php?referrerid=4238197 <- replace this number with your user ID number
To find your user ID number, click on your user name in the upper right hand corner and see the new URL change in your location bar. Here is mine. Note the u= on the end.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4238197
Referrals doesn't seem to do anything, but it is nice to know that I inspired someone to join up and hopefully contribute.

Related

(requests) From the Users to the Mods & Admins

Hi all
A few of us Moderators have been getting PM's that in my case have not been dealt with due to the fact I am not always on the board.
All of us do this for free and in our spare time, and over time we move on, get new toys, or even go back to a real life without a keyboard under our fingers.
Please try to understand that some of us are Bias (I admit to it I have a BA and am not intrested in many of the other sections).
Thus I for one do not read all posts and all sections, I feel this is true for others, like I said I feel this.
We all however try to check the trash and keep the news clean.
For this reason we need a form of communication that is not based on a person but directed to a group and in this case its the Moderators and Admins.
It is with that motivation in mind that I have opened this thread and made it sticky in the hope that you are able to post issues that you think that at least one of us should deal with.
Please note that this board does not tolerate cracks, serials, pirated versions or the posting of software that should have been aquired by legal means and we will remove (delete) them when found. Please help us keep this site clean by posting links of that sort in this tread as well as telling us if you have found anything on the ftp site.
Please use this thread, use and edit the wiki and remember this board would not be as great as it is without YOU.
Thanks for your support.
MDAIIIUser
Thanks MDAIIIUser.
And remember, mods aren't Gods, despite us all being flaxen hair'd Adoni.
We can't create new Forums, change the Welcome page or Index page, or supply you with new flags or avatars. But ask anyway, it helps us put pressure on the Admis, who are the true Smooth Operators of this board.
V
Thanks guys!
Hi Guys,
Thanks for postings this.
We (admins) are behind you (though we also aren't gods )
Greetz,
Flar
redirection from www.xda-developers.com still pointed to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/front_page.php
link above is not valid anymore
I guess, it should be pointed to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php
nothing major, just easier that way
Think that is correct that is the main page, the forum is a sub element which you can get to from the main page. If you just want the forum then bookmark it.
Link above worked for me
[req] mobile forum theme
Let me first thank you for moving to a much better forum application than phpBB.
I hope one day we can have access to a mobile friendly theme from owr phone. If implemented, I would also like to request that the theme option be stored in cookies rather in the database so we wouldn't have to enter User CP and change the theme every time we log in from our mobile or desktop.
thanks!
Charmer Wiki locked, someone have a check on that please. Thanks
checked it,
opened, edit, saved and removed edit fine
Try on another different user account? Look at my screen shot. The Page-Info gives me the LOCKED status. And, I only see the View-Source not the normal Edit button. Something wrong?
Is it possible to regain the option: view your posts? I liked it but can't find it now anymore.
go User CP -> Find all your posts.
I didn't notice, thanks!
hanmin said:
Try on another different user account? Look at my screen shot. The Page-Info gives me the LOCKED status. And, I only see the View-Source not the normal Edit button. Something wrong?
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Sorry did notice that one, the page has been unlocked, thanks for pointing it out.
MDAIIIUser said:
Sorry did notice that one, the page has been unlocked, thanks for pointing it out.
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Hmm.. the WM5 wiki seems to be locked too
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Windows_Mobile_5
Somebody is having fun with the locking of pages!
Thanks (unlocked now)
Just wondering, with the recent spamfest that seems to be taking place is there any pattern developing in the IPs used that would allow an IP ban to be placed? or are they using anon proxies? I know from my own experience as an admin on another forum they can be a pain, but they really seem to be targetting this place.... A friend of mine is a developer for vb and if there is anything that could be of use I can ask him if he would be able to create a plugin to help you block it.
In many ways this is one of the best sites I have seen (apart from the one I am an admin on of course, we all take pride in the sites we run heh) and I would like to assist in any way to stop any of the users being taken in by spammers like that. (yes, I know most of the users here are smart enough not to fall for it lol) Certainly it's one of the most informative on the HTC devices.
I don't see Cingular in the drop-down list for profiles.... found this a bit odd....
Crash Override said:
Just wondering, with the recent spamfest that seems to be taking place is there any pattern developing in the IPs used that would allow an IP ban to be placed? or are they using anon proxies? I know from my own experience as an admin on another forum they can be a pain, but they really seem to be targetting this place.... A friend of mine is a developer for vb and if there is anything that could be of use I can ask him if he would be able to create a plugin to help you block it.
In many ways this is one of the best sites I have seen (apart from the one I am an admin on of course, we all take pride in the sites we run heh) and I would like to assist in any way to stop any of the users being taken in by spammers like that. (yes, I know most of the users here are smart enough not to fall for it lol) Certainly it's one of the most informative on the HTC devices.
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Hi Crash Override,
We were already working on this, we will add some ip bans today.
Thanks for you suggestions and compliments though
Greetz,
Flar
blazoner said:
I don't see Cingular in the drop-down list for profiles.... found this a bit odd....
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Seems I got overlooked....
It's bugging me that I have to show AT&T as my carrier, as apparently carrier isn't an optional field, and Cingular isn't available in the drop down menu....
yeah, I'd be ashamed to show AT&T as my carrier also!!!

Banner on main forum page

Seriously! Who is the brainiac behind this? I'd like to know... Main forum page has nice new banner on top. GREAT! but when you have drop down boxes like SEARCH, than UNFOLD you do not COVER them with a banner!
Doesn't anyone TEST stuff when they put it on the site? Do you just copy paste a banner URL and job is done?
Just block them. I block as many adds as I can because my bandwidth sux. The page still comes up good afterwards.
why not just have the banner above the menu bar? is it that hard?
I don't want to block banners, it's a flash banner anyway. I don't even mind one banner. What I do mind is the fact that whoever put this there is clearly not doing their job right. FIX IT!
I love how I can post a complaint here but no mods a. answer, b. do anything about it. Great job, just great.
joannaex said:
Seriously! Who is the brainiac behind this? I'd like to know... Main forum page has nice new banner on top. GREAT! but when you have drop down boxes like SEARCH, than UNFOLD you do not COVER them with a banner!
Doesn't anyone TEST stuff when they put it on the site? Do you just copy paste a banner URL and job is done?
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I think it's a problem on your end because my menus and such (Quick Links and Search) open up OVER the banner, not under it... What browser are you using? I'm using Internet Explorer 7 on Windows Vista.
Here on Server 2003 and FF some banners are under, some are over.
Indeed. There doesn't seem to be a good responsive way to discuss forum problems.
Would be nice to get this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290327
fixed also.
I'm sure the people that run this site have better things to do then fix compatibility issues with banners and advertisments. To tell you the truth I used to run a forum like this. It's not an issue of the code being wrong it's how it's interpreted by your browser. I just installed FireFox to see, and sure enough the menus show up UNDER the banner. That's not the site's fault, that's the browser's fault for rendering it wrong. If it works fine in another browser then use that. Sometimes there is a middle ground, but unfortunatly vBulletin only offers certain types of code and has constraints. Also I'm sure no one wants to pay money to switch to phpbb or invision powerboard. These board/forums softwares have issues to themselves.
However, I agree about the page layout there in ivorh's post, that can be fixed by some simple code changes, but it's not that big of a deal. The PDA list view could be fixed as well I suppose. Meh. I come here to get information, not spending 10 hours wondering why the banners aren't working along with the menus lol. I'm not saying you don't have valid points, but I think you need something better to get fustrated about.
there's a thread on the moderators forum about both issues, but the admins are busy with other things now... we'll try to get things fixed, just have a bit of patience
joannaex said:
Seriously! Who is the brainiac behind this? I'd like to know... Main forum page has nice new banner on top. GREAT! but when you have drop down boxes like SEARCH, than UNFOLD you do not COVER them with a banner!
Doesn't anyone TEST stuff when they put it on the site? Do you just copy paste a banner URL and job is done?
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joannaex said:
I love how I can post a complaint here but no mods a. answer, b. do anything about it. Great job, just great.
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Maybe if you had posted respectfully, someone might have responded.
As Pof said, the moderators are pulling their own hair out (a la Britney) about it on the Moderators' forum, but the admins have to get it fixed, not the worthless underling Mods.
Frankly, I never noticed the problem - I use an ad blocker by default. I probably shouldn't recommend that solution, but it's better then nothing.
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pof said:
there's a thread on the moderators forum about both issues, but the admins are busy with other things now... we'll try to get things fixed, just have a bit of patience
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cheers pof that's good to hear.... I expect if the admins are too busy and they made their version of vbulletin available in some form someone would have provided a patch for them by now.

Forums not refreshing properly

I notice that the forums don't load after I post... and that it doesn't update my thread views like normal... for instance it tells me a thread is new even though I have already seen it.
Anything change in the past couple weeks?
neoobs said:
that it doesn't update my thread views like normal... for instance it tells me a thread is new even though I have already seen it.
Anything change in the past couple weeks?
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I get this sometimes. To Fix it:
Log out and clear all your cookies (even though log out tell's you they are all cleared). If you using Firefox 3, click the Icon to the left of the address bar, the click More Information, Security Tab, View Cookies, and remove any remaining.
Somethings have changed, but this problem occured before and after the changes for me.
Ta
Dave
I noticed I am not being sent to redirection pages... I think this is part of the issue... I will PM Flar
I sometimes get this. Often hitting refresh seems to fix the problem.
I'm getting the message on my Treo, something along the lines: 'a script causing device slow may become unresponsive'
Testing to see if I still get the white screen
Yep still getting them
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Testing to see if I still get the white screen
Yep still getting them
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The site admin has changed some more vBulletin settings, please can you test again.
Thanks
Dave
Testing again per request LOL
Same effect, same errors.
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Testing again per request LOL
Same effect, same errors.
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Can you try a log out, clear cookies, et al. and try again please.
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Dave
I hope this one works *crosses fingers*
Still happening
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I hope this one works *crosses fingers*
Still happening
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KK, I'll pass it on.
Dave
we should just call this the spam thread LOL
testing again
Works perfect now... can we delete all my posts LOL
ahhhh, I was already PM'ing with neoobs whilst dave was nice enough to relay all of this in the mod forum , if no-one objects in the next 24hrs, can I close the thread?
Thanks for all your help guys
Greetz,
Flar
Hrm, big bump in the road:
the thing causing the quick reply function not to work properly is a google ad. I removed it because I thought that it was an old, incorrectly working ad on the wrong location. But it turns out it's our ad hack that supplies us with 2/3's of our monthly income.
Now let me get this very straight: we are not in this to get rich, the current ad income is enough to keep xda-dev running but losing 2/3 to gain a correctly working quick reply function, will get us into serious money problems very soon.
So the only thing I can do at the moment is break the quick reply function and enable the ads, whilst searching feverishly for a better solution.
I'm well aware of vbulletin.org so I will be searching my ass of there, and try every possible solution they have, but untill the time comes where I've found a working ad solution, I hope you can all avoid the quick reply function.
I'm very sorry to have to make decision, but I hope you can all see that this the lesser of 2 problems.
Best regards,
Flar
we understand you Flar, though im lazy to press the "post reply" button..but i can handle it
ather90 said:
we understand you Flar, though im lazy to press the "post reply" button..but i can handle it
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Ditto to that LOL or for me I just forget that there is a problem and post and then hope that it really goes through and my long rant wasn't lost forever LOL

Just a thought.

I have been trolling the forums for years and have spent 1000's of hours
reading and learning and searching...
mostly searching...
I was just wondering. How taxing would it be to have links
in the forums to entries in the wiki detailing what a given subject is all about?
similar to Tomboy notes in Linux.
where no special taging in the post needs to be made.
any word that has a wiki entry would automatically link to the article.
for instance:
while reading a forum entry about flashing a ROM, there is talk about
HARDSPLs, RADIOs, CID Unlockers, Nand, HaRET, Compcache, different
versions of android Donut Cupcake Eclair etc.... Tinboot, Flash,
CustomRUU.exe the list could go on forever.
Being able to click on the word that is of interest and lead them to a
stationary section for an answer(such as a wiki), may keep the "Stupid" or
repetitive questions to a minimum and help clear up the boards.
Instead of re-explaining how to do something every time a new visitor to the
site decides to ask noob questions, a noob would see something they don't
understand and then click on that word that links them to an article that
best describes it.
the problem is that stickies don't always stay up. good explanations don't
always have their own thread, and searching the forums usually just brings
up posts of people using those words in a sentence but not necessarily
explaining in detail what it is about or how to use it.
often there are very good posts that explain in detail certain subjects.
and if you search for them you will find them.
but you will never get rid of "Lazy" people that don't want to search for hours
reading countless numbers of non-helpful or incomprehensible jibberjabber.
and its not always a matter of being lazy. sometimes it is just damn near
impossible to find what you are looking for.but it is there....
it has just got to be.
Also, if this is possible to have setup,
when there is a subject matter that doesn't yet have an entry any
knowledgeable person that has permission to create an entry can do so.
(i am guessing thats already true for the wiki)
I am sure that may be more complicated than I am seeing it. But it sure would be nice.
I like this idea. At some point we are going to have to migrate to a new wiki (the one we have is no longer supported). When we do that, I will look into this as well. Thanks.
I think not... Cause i will always click the words by accident,
If i want to know something, i will look in the wiki myself
Maybe an option so you can choose
I don't like it either. That way it looks like some ad app has hijacked your browser and hyperlinks all relevant words for you. But, if you could choose wether to turn this option on or off, it might be an idea!
Why are you calling yourself a troll? WTF does trolling mean then? You don't sound like a troll right now.
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I think not... Cause i will always click the words by accident,
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What are you doing? just clicking around randomly at your screen as you read???
J/K
I know what you mean though... I always "Highlight" with my mouse while I read and I would get mad if I kept getting redirected when I do that.
for sure this would be a better thing if it was "ON" by default for noobs
and then you could turn it off in your user settings when you no longer need it.
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I don't like it either. That way it looks like some ad app has hijacked your browser and hyperlinks all relevant words for you.
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I absolutly HATE those damn ads. especially when they POPUP little windows that wont go away until you click the little x.
poetryrocksalot said:
Why are you calling yourself a troll? WTF does trolling mean then? You don't sound like a troll right now.
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I consider a troll to be someone that joins a forum just to get access to a download or to frequently get info about something and never contribute back.
I don't really consider myself a troll... when I have something of value I will post. when I get really stuck with a problem I post. but I have no need to rant about BS or make comments on things that I am not really sure about.
Overloaded said:
I think not... Cause i will always click the words by accident,
If i want to know something, i will look in the wiki myself
Maybe an option so you can choose
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I agree with the above and an 'option' seems to be better.

SPOILER Show/Hide Tags

Is there any way to have show/hide tags such as
Spoiler
text
, to have a block of text hidden until you click on it?
Relevant links:
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=110598
http://www.creationlab.info/2008/09/creating-vbulletin-bb-codes-from-html/
I'd like something like this for my guide so it doesn't show all sections at once. That way the person can choose to show only the section they're working on.
Does this exist on these forums?
If not, can the site admin consider adding it?
Also, is there a way to "hack" this in via the [ HTML ] tags?
Not at the moment. Something like this maybe in vB4 when we upgrade.
Spoiler tags seems a bit hacky, the admin's might consider if there is something a bit more user friendly or fit for purpose.
Collapsing information seems the wrong way to do it. I think a navigation (contents page) that allows quick thread navigation without opening in a new window / tab would be better.
Dave
Doh, that's too bad.
I'm not sure what you mean by a contents page? Splitting up one post into several, may make things a bit more hectic?
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Doh, that's too bad.
I'm not sure what you mean by a contents page? Splitting up one post into several, may make things a bit more hectic?
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Like the contents page on Media Wiki pages : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_development
In my experience, so long as the posts are sequential and the OP has the ingenuity to disable their sig until the last post, it's not too bad.
Dave
Ah I see.
What if you only have the first post in a thread?
It's too late for me
Paul22000 said:
Ah I see.
What if you only have the first post in a thread?
It's too late for me
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Post less? (j/k)
I was thinking about linking inside a thread. HTML allows Anchor / Name tags to do this. A way of building a contents page could be handy.
So the contents could have:
Post 1
- Part 1
- Part 2
Post 2
-Part 3
etc. etc.
It might just be a dream though : http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2031310
Dave
I also think that this would be a good idea. For example, a rom developer could hide the changelog, todo list, Q&A, etc leaving the first post much less cluttered and simpler to navigate, but still displaying the same ammount of information. I know how to use anchors and links with HTML, but I don't really know if most people know all the code, and it would be more complicated. For example, just a single link to an anchor named banana would be Link to banana. It would be much simpler to just use a
Spoiler
tag.
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I also think that this would be a good idea. For example, a rom developer could hide the changelog, todo list, Q&A, etc leaving the first post much less cluttered and simpler to navigate, but still displaying the same ammount of information. I know how to use anchors and links with HTML, but I don't really know if most people know all the code, and it would be more complicated. For example, just a single link to an anchor named banana would be Link to banana. It would be much simpler to just use a
Spoiler
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Spoiler
Yes, another excellent idea!
A collapsible tag could be useful in so many situations!
Here's another possible use: signatures. Almost everyone has a list of the phones they have, current rom, radio, spl, recovery, mods, themes, etc. We could literally change 5-10 lines of text to a single "show" button on every single post on every forum. I have no idea how much work it would take to implement this, but it would really be a kickass idea.
Hi everyone,
i know this is a pretty old topic, but i wanted to know if it is meanwhile possible to build a "spoiler"?
i wanted to post a logcat-log but its like 100+ strings long so it would be pretty nice to make this information collapsable to keep threads clear.
thanks in advance
Nimroth said:
Hi everyone,
i know this is a pretty old topic, but i wanted to know if it is meanwhile possible to build a "spoiler"?
i wanted to post a logcat-log but its like 100+ strings long so it would be pretty nice to make this information collapsable to keep threads clear.
thanks in advance
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You could use a
Code:
box.
Sorry for also resurrecting an old thread but I too would love a collapsible tag.
As with the OP, I think it would be a real boon to writing guides.
I have a multi-part guide I'm working on/maintaining for the Arc but for each part of it, I'd love to be able to have it split into independently-expandable sections, it would make it so much easier to divide it up clearly and to hide necessary but lesser-used information.
spoiler tag in the forum
any progress on a collapsible tag?
Spoiler
at the end of 2011 ...
if it would work, you would not see this msg, unless you click on it
pulser_g2 said:
You could use a
Code:
box.[/QUOTE]
It'll be an eyesore for XDA App users :/
Sent from my GT-S5830 using XDA App
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It'll be an eyesore for XDA App users :/
Sent from my GT-S5830 using XDA App
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It is already, especially in some dev threads where people post full logcats
Also, in one thread, I had posted a complete diff between two kernel versions, so implementation if this in the app would also be awesome(although you'll have to talk to tapatalk guys, hope they understand)
cdesai said:
(although you'll have to talk to tapatalk guys, hope they understand)
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Actually tapatalk recognize the spoiler tag and hide content.
orld said:
Actually tapatalk recognize the spoiler tag and hide content.
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Thats nice!
So admins, implement this as soon as you can, it'ld be loved!
I am not sorry to bump an old thread....we need spoiler tags!
BUMP again!
We need this!!!
Shano56 said:
I am not sorry to bump an old thread....we need spoiler tags!
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lesiki said:
BUMP again!
We need this!!!
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