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The EVO carries some great specs and gets some good benchmark scores through various tests but I always felt that it seemed kind of clunky with just navigating through the OS. 2.2 has helped a bit but I still feel the same way.
I was recently supplied with the HTC Aria through the company I work for. Now I know this phone is a more entry level android set, but I am really blown away with how quick this thing feels. Benchmark scores aren't as high as the evo, but the phone just feels so much faster and more fluid through the OS.
I am not trying to start any sort of flame war. I came from the Nexus One and now have the Evo and Aria. Anyone else notice this?
EDIT: Also I did a camera and video comparison. The picture and video quality is just better on the Aria. Maybe it's just my Evo.
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The EVO carries some great specs and gets some good benchmark scores through various tests but I always felt that it seemed kind of clunky with just navigating through the OS. 2.2 has helped a bit but I still feel the same way.
I was recently supplied with the HTC Aria through the company I work for. Now I know this phone is a more entry level android set, but I am really blown away with how quick this thing feels. Benchmark scores aren't as high as the evo, but the phone just feels so much faster and more fluid through the OS.
I am not trying to start any sort of flame war. I came from the Nexus One and now have the Evo and Aria. Anyone else notice this?
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It's the Damn FPS LOCK! My parents have the incredible and that also feels sooo much smoother. Come on HTC give us a factory fix instead of leaving it to the Devs again! They will fix it! But they shouldn't have to!
P.S. we don't call the Android op sys OS 2.2 its not an iphoney....its froyo ....just messn with Ya I couldn't resist
Is that really what makes it feel that way? I didn't know.
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Is that really what makes it feel that way? I didn't know.
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100% absolutely.
Very much so yes.
I went from CM6 with a 53 FPS avg to test Fresh 3 with the stock HTC kernel with 29 FPS avg. Night and day difference navigating around the phone. It really is that bad. It's a shame HTC is stonewalling on the situation.
-NO fps lock
That's it... I'm running CM-1 with netarchy fix I think... anyway, it's NIGHT and DAY difference. Do yourself a favor and get a rom/kernel with a fix.
Mine benchmarks just fine now... infact, with Cm6 + Snap kernel, I benchmark a bit better than most snapdragon phones.
30.3 on neocore, HOLLA'.
Its not just the fps lock, it also has alot to do with the graphics accelerator. For one HTC didnt include the proper drivers for the graphics to run at full speed and not only that but it is not an indipendent G.A. it is "intergrated". In other words, if youve ever bought a new graphics card for your computer because most of us nerds know that most comps. bought out there have "intergrated" fx cards. They are built into the motherboard, therefor sucking more energy and resources from all the other parts of the computer. Its the same way with this phone, another thing is the HDMI output. Just like a computer if you want to have a nice vid card and also have a tv tuner or another output you would need to take up 2 slots, well you can only fit so many slots in a phone.
The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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not just placebo. Like others have noticed there are Android phones that do not have the fps cap that do run smoother and are equal or less as far as processor and gpu specs go. I have been building pc gaming rigs for the last 8 or so years so I do know the difference not going by word of mouth and also agree with BALeR's post that its not just the fps cap. I didn't mention the gpu in my earlier post because I have used the incredible and it does run smoother loaded up, Not rooted than my evo was stock. Yes might be using different drivers also. The majority of the peeps who use the fps hack can't all be seeing placebo effects. There is some truth to the matter might not be huge but enough non the less for a noticeable difference. Not flaming or saying you are wrong, just defending what I posted.
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The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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I would have to disagree. When I first started using netarchy's kernel for my evo it felt like butter
If the FPS unlock is a placebo than so is Chemo for cancer patients.
lol. yeah SERIOUSLY. I've gone back and forth from stock to Netarchy a dozen times, and I can instantly tell which is which.
My girlfriend has an EVO as well. She wasn't convinced either, so we took both phones, stripped our Sense "Scenes" to "Clean Slate", removed battery covers (I have carbon fiber on the back of mine.) and I had to guess who's was whos.
All I had to do was swipe once or twice and I knew which phone was mine vs hers. we did that probably a dozen times and I got it every single time.
I wasn't going off of some blemish or marking that my phone had that hers didn't, it was solely based on a BLANK screen. (default background of course.) and swiping back and forth.
No, but you're right.. it's make believe, like Toothpaste and the female orgasm.
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The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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LOL,the nerve of some people..So its a Placebo that I and 100's of other people see a huge difference in the over all "snappyness" of the phone when using a fix?...You can't be serious...placebo,lol....Linpack and CM6 isn't all that's out their sir.Seems like you need some real world experiences with other roms and unlocking FPS before posting.
The Evo running at 30hz is awful, running at around 55hz on CM6 rom (used the T2 hack before), and it is WAY WAY WAY WAY better.
I lol at people who lost their root and can't do it... they can whine all they want
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The Evo running at 30hz is awful, running at around 55hz on CM6 rom (used the T2 hack before), and it is WAY WAY WAY WAY better.
I lol at people who lost their root and can't do it... they can whine all they want
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Exactly, it feels so much better. FYI. fps, not hz. two totally different things.
30hz would strain your eyes, possibly and REALLY be annoying.
God imagine that.. 30fpx lock AND 30hz. what a POS that would be.
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Exactly, it feels so much better. FYI. fps, not hz. two totally different things.
30hz would strain your eyes, possibly and REALLY be annoying.
God imagine that.. 30fpx lock AND 30hz. what a POS that would be.
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I believe the display is locked at 30hz, it's not a CRT.
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I believe the display is locked at 30hz, it's not a CRT.
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I can't find actual specs for the screens refresh rate. (excluding the fps cap)
But, I believe the reason we feel so much lag is that the screen is capable of 60hz, which, all LCD screens are now a days. but the cap of 30fps is allowing the screen to refresh 2 times before another frame is drawn, giving us that feeling a lag.
again, this is just my thought on the whole thing as I can't find solid specs of the device, only a bunch of sites that say the 30 fps is a cap on the screens refresh rate. which, ...don't have to be the same thing.
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The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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Wholly inaccurate. Netarchy's kernel shows a dramatic improvement in touch response in addition to improved framerate when scrolling. It's not just a placebo and it's borderline irresponsible to say otherwise.
CyanogenMod wins agian!
I'm actually thinking about the Epic if it gets CM6 support...
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The FPS hack is not the answer lol. Ever heard of placebo.. not the band the effect. I am running CM6 and in linpack getting scores of 39.???. My phone is current and runs smooth. However when it comes to changing screens or anything like that its not any less or any more smoother then when it was set to 30fps. I will say this though games do play smoother and that is definitly noticiable.
These people claiming the FPS unlock makes there phone snappier lol what a joke seriously guys? Dont guess things, read up and learn something. Word of mouth isnt always the correct answer.
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Come back to us when you compare a Stock Nexus One or Incredible and a Stock Evo.
Again, scrolling between screens and apps... one can see a BIG difference.
The 30fps cap puts a TOUCH INPUT LAG. This makes it feel like the phone is lagging behind you. You swipe across the screen and the phone actually registers it around half a second after you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOje7dcRlo
Looks like someone's a pretty big hypocrite... Twilk, you need to do some reading and learning.
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On top of that, I put the Cm6 Snap Kernel on top of the Cm6-RC1...
I get higher 3d benchmarks. For example...
-16.8 fps on Nenamark (formerly... 10'ish fps)
-30.3 fps on Neocore (formerly 25'ish)
-43 fps on GL Benchmark HD 1.1 (formerly 28'ish)
Install a Custom Rom, Netarchy's latest kernel and then Launcher Pro. You will notice a big difference
First of all Im new to the forum so hello lol
I have a question about qualcomm...I know that the scorpion processor in the next generation 45 nm chip but what I dont understand is why is it clocked at 800mhz?
The made it such a big deal crossing the 1ghz mark and I would assume that they would never look back. I might not have my facts straight but dosent the 45 nm run clock-cycles just like a 65 nm but more efficiently in respect of battery consumption.
It looks as if they wanted to get in on the low-end Android market share. As for the G2 which I love, my friend ran quadrant pro infront of me and it shows the cpu was scored what looked like 20% lower than the nexus one at 2.2 (my guess from looking at it) but of coarse the gpu trashed the nexus one.
I saw a interview on engadget about a week ago about googles executive that said soon there will be a clear distinction or line between low end Android and high end Android devices. I wonder if HTC is in contact with google about future updates in order to release devices adequate enough to run them or are they just blindly releasing high build quality devices lol
Sorry about the long post but I had come up with a few questions that I didn't want to ask anywhere else.
Thanks.
Wait until our geniuses figure out root then you can happily run it a 1 Ghz+. If you look at the spec scheets for the MSM7230 then you will see it's rated for speeds 800-1000. Higher speeds=lower battery life, so the reasons for having it clocked lower are very practical. My G2 can average 1600-1650 on quadrant, so I don't think it's that bad.
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First of all Im new to the forum so hello lol
I have a question about qualcomm...I know that the scorpion processor in the next generation 45 nm chip but what I dont understand is why is it clocked at 800mhz?
The made it such a big deal crossing the 1ghz mark and I would assume that they would never look back. I might not have my facts straight but dosent the 45 nm run clock-cycles just like a 65 nm but more efficiently in respect of battery consumption.
It looks as if they wanted to get in on the low-end Android market share. As for the G2 which I love, my friend ran quadrant pro infront of me and it shows the cpu was scored what looked like 20% lower than the nexus one at 2.2 (my guess from looking at it) but of coarse the gpu trashed the nexus one.
I saw a interview on engadget about a week ago about googles executive that said soon there will be a clear distinction or line between low end Android and high end Android devices. I wonder if HTC is in contact with google about future updates in order to release devices adequate enough to run them or are they just blindly releasing high build quality devices lol
Sorry about the long post but I had come up with a few questions that I didn't want to ask anywhere else.
Thanks.
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MHz is a misleading statistic to judge performance by. A 1GHz processor is not guaranteed to be faster than an 800MHz one. What is always true, though, is that a given processor running at 1GHz will take more energy than the same processor running at 800MHz. Because these new processors are so fast, even at 800MHz, they are competitive or even faster than any other phone on the market today. However by clocking them a bit slower, they also have quite serviceable battery life.
In daily use, it is unlikely that you would notice much difference between 800MHz and 1GHz with this cpu. They are both plenty fast, and most of the time the CPU will be waiting for you, not the other way around. However if it were clocked at 1GHz, you would immediately see a shorter battery life, so to my mind the sacrifice is well worth it.
As far as any fears that this might be a "low end phone", make no mistake, this is the premiere Android phone on the market right now. The Droid 2 may have a higher profile, but it is slower, has a slower network, and uses a non-standard GUI (not to mention a whole lot more expensive when you factor in the price of the service). No phone will have every possible feature that people want, but as far as raw capabilities go, there is no better phone on the market today as far as I can see.
Those seem to be very valid points and thanks for the input..
One other thing when exactly do you need 1ghz of processing speed?? I mean back in the day the macbook air used a 1.5 ghz processor..
Also where dose the ram come into play?
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Those seem to be very valid points and thanks for the input..
One other thing when exactly do you need 1ghz of processing speed?? I mean back in the day the macbook air used a 1.5 ghz processor..
Also where dose the ram come into play?
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RAM is a far bigger determiner of performance on a day-to-day basis than processor speed, at least to a point. You could have a 10GHz computer, but if you only had 64k of RAM it would crawl along miserably slow.
In either case, there is a point of diminishing returns, though as applications become more demanding that point gets higher and higher. I remember selling Mac's back in the early-mid 90's and telling eople, don't worry, 16Megs of RAM (a huge amount back then when the standard was 4MB) would handle anything they could throw at it. Little did I know that just 15 years later I would have 500x that much in my desktop and 32x as much in my cell phone!
I am by no means a Andoid systems expert, but from what I have read there is not much benefit of having more than 512MB of RAM with the current versions of the Android OS. I would have preferred that they included 1GB of RAM just for a future growth path, but I can understand why they didn't. Each of these features costs money, so you have to draw the line someplace, you can't included every feature people may ask for in every phone.
Your right lol How will the big companies make any money if they give you everything you wanted....
I've never kept a phone for more than 8 months because of updated stats but lately there is a boom in technology so its going to be more like 4 months now hahaha
My brother agreed to give me the upgrade on his line if I gave him my inc. So i would also have another upgrade in June 2012 so should I upgrade to the thunderbolt or keep my dinc? I'm looking for some advise as to what I should do.
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I say wait...there are a lot of new phones coming out. The thunderbolt wouldn't be worth it to me.
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I agree. The Thunderbolt is not dual-core. Plus Verizon will be getting the Xperia Play and other great phones. Including some great dual-core phones.
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If it was me I would probably wait for a dual core phone with LTE. My girlfriend has the Thunderbolt and it is not much better than my Incredible other that has the big screen that I like.
I say wait too for something with dual core, 3d cam?, and something with a battery that last longer than 3 hours
Seems as though everybody would rather wait. Lol. Seems like an easy enough decision.
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I would hold out although for you it's probably easier said than done. Hard to resist I'm sure!
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I too would wait.
I have to ask, what is the big deal about dual core processors? I mean, what are we expecting these new phones to be able to perform that our Droid Incredible can't?
I just picked up a DInc for the wife, and we now have a TBolt sitting around playing Pandora in the kitchen.
She hated it, ( TB ) but being that it was the 2nd phone she got ( she returned the iPhone ) she's stuck with it. She tried to tell me that she would give me the TB for my DInc, but I really like mine and an not willing to part with it just yet.
Long short I traded my old Eris + a ridiculously small amount of cash for what appears to be a almost new DInc and she seems to be happy with it...
For now...
So, I'd wait
Watch this video. Both of these are dual-core. Super fast compared to the incredible.
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i say wait. thunderbolt looks nice but it's not a major upgrade, especially if you're not in a LTE coverage area.
i'm holding my upgrade for the bionic or for the next HTC LTE phone, whichever come first.
The new Sense 3.0 ROMS are keeping me pretty busy that last few days and also has made it a lot easier to not want a new phone right away. Its almost like getting a new one!
I craved the Thunderbolt. I watched forums on it daily during the whole Thundergate release date situation. I finally got tired of waiting. Ended up spending the $700 on a set of recliners instead (I was going to pay full price for the TB).
Then I started sniffing around the DINC2. Same specs as TB only 4" display and no LTE. Not too shabby. Only problem I've been hearing, locked bootloader? Ugh.
i own a new Thunderbolt, and even thought the specs don't look like an improvement they really are. And even though dual core is out there, the test beween dual and single aren't that far off from each other.
Quadrant scores (which is yes invaild technically) at 1.4 oc 2690, but mostly at 2100-2300
Positives
-more ram (768 mb), which makes a insane difference, almost never lags.
-The cpu is 1 ghz but can safely over clock to 1.4 (because qualcomm has stated it is stable clock from 800mhz-1.41 ghz) and i even got it stable at 1.8
-comes preloaded with 32 gb card, nice plus. and even thought it says 8 emmc, it only has 2.8 GB or something to work with, what is still a good amount.
-screen is gorilla glass, so its tough and durable.
-camera 720p recording (rumors of 1080p with new sense roms)
-if u want to video chat then yes this phone has a front camera thats always nice.
-Even though the screen is big, it doesn't feel it. because got some width instead of just length like droid x it looks smaller.
-And o yea LTE which is insane, almost as good as Wifi N in some areas.
Negatives
-Battery Battery Battery Battery Battery SUCKS. But i upgraded to ginersense 2.1/3.0 mods and my battery life is insanely good all of a sudden.
-$250 for a phone is expensive, But Samsung LTE Charge is 300 and tech specs are same if not worse in some aspects.
-Stock comes with 2.2 but with root gingerbread is easily available.
But with any phone you got to buy it for your needs, so if you need battery throughout the day, dont even bother, but if you can lug around batteries or chargers, its a must upgrade.
Wait for sure.
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yea definitely would wait. i have a feeling this summer we will get some sweet dual core phones, and there isnt any point in getting anything less than the best out there.
+1 for waiting. I'm perfectly happy with my Dinc until something with better hardware comes along.
Oh yeah, just wait. It's what I'd do if I had the option.
Agree
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yea definitely would wait. i have a feeling this summer we will get some sweet dual core phones, and there isnt any point in getting anything less than the best out there.
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My brother has a Thunderbolt, it's pretty nice. As long as you root it, and do a few tweaks with lower voltages the battery life is pretty good (better than my incredible), but once you turn 4G on it'll be significantly worse.
I'd still say wait, unless you really want to jump into a new phone. Who knows when another comparable phone will come out.
The Thunderbolt is pretty large too, some people like that since it'll be easier to do things on- but personally I find it just more of a hassle to carry around.
Hey all are the GS2 from Sprint and att superior to our tmobile version? hardware wise? I am new to rooting and all, and I just rooted my phone and it runs super better with all the bloatware removed.. My antutu bench scored like 5460. is that good? and when I freshly reboot i scored a 3800 in the quadrant. anyone know when an OC kernal will be out?
first off all benchmarks really don't mean much. they are cool to tote around but in the end of the day it makes something better than another.
lets just say that hardware wise the processors are faster on the sprint and att&t. Not stating they are but lets just pretend. What does that really mean? It'd take 0.1 seconds more to open something on the T-mobile. wow is that really relevant?
lets talk about things that matter. screen size. attt is smaller. fail for me. some might like a smaller phone and think 4.52" is too large. if it is go attt. Now sprint is big also. So what other differences is there. More roms on sprint. at least right now. that should be important to people on xda but the phone is young. I think you only need like 4 good roms anyway. Once we have those it'd be different.
really is a slight hardware difference important?
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first off all benchmarks really don't mean much. they are cool to tote around but in the end of the day it makes something better than another.
lets just say that hardware wise the processors are faster on the sprint and att&t. Not stating they are but lets just pretend. What does that really mean? It'd take 0.1 seconds more to open something on the T-mobile. wow is that really relevant?
lets talk about things that matter. screen size. attt is smaller. fail for me. some might like a smaller phone and think 4.52" is too large. if it is go attt. Now sprint is big also. So what other differences is there. More roms on sprint. at least right now. that should be important to people on xda but the phone is young. I think you only need like 4 good roms anyway. Once we have those it'd be different.
really is a slight hardware difference important?
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Very well put sir.
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Touchwiz is hardware accelerated for mali-400 which is more powerful than are gpu. The adreno 220 have better shaders and renders than the mali-400 but the mali is still more powerful. Our version of the galaxy s2 is not hardware accelerated like the other ones. Snapdragon S3 processors are optimized for battery life. Being asynchronous processors meaning even though you have a 1.5
dual core in your phone your phone is never actually reaching 1.5 in both cores at the same time. Both cores work independently from each other. This can make things lag as both processors scale differently from each other. But if programmed correctly they are on the same level with exynos processor if not better.
Thanks! Yes I agree I love my phone, and it runs every single app including every game like a champ, and I do love the bigger screen. I cant wait for more roms to come out for our phone. Anyone know when we will receive a OC kernal to start over clocking it?
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Thanks! Yes I agree I love my phone, and it runs every single app including every game like a champ, and I do love the bigger screen. I cant wait for more roms to come out for our phone. Anyone know when we will receive a OC kernal to start over clocking it?
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overclock? is there a reason to overclock except for (useless) bench marking? I'm still trying to find a game/app that this phone has a hard time running. The game deadspace runs 100% flawless!
I cant seem to download Dead Space.. from the flexion site, but I am downloading dungeon defenders now.
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overclock? is there a reason to overclock except for (useless) bench marking? I'm still trying to find a game/app that this phone has a hard time running. The game deadspace runs 100% flawless!
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Your right no need for overclock this processor is one of the higher clocks and we still get better battery life compared to the others variants. Dead space is a good example on optimization for the gpu for us. As soon as we get some kernels and optimized roms are phone will be sitting right next to the other beast.
att and sprint dont offer up to 42 mbps speed data speeds
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Touchwiz is hardware accelerated for mali-400 which is more powerful than are gpu. The adreno 220 have better shaders and renders than the mali-400 but the mali is still more powerful. Our version of the galaxy s2 is not hardware accelerated like the other ones. Snapdragon S3 processors are optimized for battery life. Being asynchronous processors meaning even though you have a 1.5
dual core in your phone your phone is never actually reaching 1.5 in both cores at the same time. Both cores work independently from each other. This can make things lag as both processors scale differently from each other. But if programmed correctly they are on the same level with exynos processor if not better.
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This. The big difference from a UI perspective is the lack of hardware acceleration on the TMO version. In all likelihood, it will still that way as well.
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att and sprint dont offer up to 42 mbps speed data speeds
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show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results
I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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Yep, this is pretty much the trade-off. With the optimizations going on over in the Dev threads, I have been able to get this phone to behave a fair amount more smoothly, but it's still pretty much a joke compared to the exynos versions.
On the other hand, my data speeds absolutely crush what I was getting with Sprint's wimax in NYC, so there you have it.
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I can say from personal experience that the Sprint version kicks the snot out of this one. Wish I never sold mine and switched to this. but I couldn't pass up 30.00 a month for 5gb that I can actually use.
The Sprint version has barely any lag at all. Using the Tmobile one, it seems so slow that even my Nexus S can walk right by at times. I am seriously considering returning this and getting the htc Sensation or G2X. That's how much it bothers me.
Heck, if a fairly priced new in box Tmobile Android pops up on Craigslist, I will pick it up right away. 560 with tax for something that lags about the same as the Nexus S doesn't seem reasonable.
I know some folks are going to say benchmarks and all. But this is reality for me. I am currently using the S2 and the Sprint NS4G until the port finishes.
Oh and this morning, I did hit 23mbps on a speed test. But to be fair, it was 8am on a Sunday morning. I average anywhere from 3-17mbps where I live.
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I just moved over from the Sprint version today. I will agree that the Sprint version is snappier but the service was horrible, like 300kbytes average, no thanks i will deal with a very tiny bit of lag for better service.
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jessejames111981 said:
show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results
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The higher the theoretical top speed, the higher the real-world speed. Bottom line is that the tmo version is faster thanks to the processor's ability to run faster and tmo's network being way faster than both Sprint and ATT.
And to the guy who is having lag issues, I'm sorry man, that's not normal at all. I came from both the Sensation and G2x and while the G2x was the faster of those 2, my Herc blows both away. Maybe try an exchange before you downgrade back to the Sensation or G2x?
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jessejames111981 said:
show me some one that gets 42mb. show me someone who gets over 20mb consistantly.
In philadelphia I get 3-5mb with sprint 4g. I get 4-6mb with my gsII. Other cities may get other results
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Check out the city .....
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TJBunch1228 said:
The higher the theoretical top speed, the higher the real-world speed. Bottom line is that the tmo version is faster thanks to the processor's ability to run faster and tmo's network being way faster than both Sprint and ATT.
And to the guy who is having lag issues, I'm sorry man, that's not normal at all. I came from both the Sensation and G2x and while the G2x was the faster of those 2, my Herc blows both away. Maybe try an exchange before you downgrade back to the Sensation or G2x?
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He's comparing it to the exynos SGS2 tho -- no amount of exchanging is going to make the TMO version look any better in that comparison.
This thread makes me sad I sold, my international exynos version for this
I was using it on att gophone $50 unlimited plan, getting 800 haha, which was ok for simple browsing.
Their prices are ridiculous so signing with.then is out of the question.
after owning it 3 months I sold it , and used the money to get this so I can be on a plan with high speed data
I miss hardware acceleration, and some games running very smoothly.
I liked the big screen, capacitive buttons, and Data speed.
I know I will get other phones and sell this eventually so I don't let it bother me......I try not to lol
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Idk about lag, but my phone doesn't lag at all. Fastest phone I've ever had.
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it was a big deal for me at first, but for my needs it is plenty capable
I miss the high graphics, but realize that good games aren't made to run on one device. If a good game comes out, developers want that game to run well on all devices, so long as they meet the sudden requirements.
Maybe i'm wrong
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I switched from an HD2 to this T989 and there's really not much difference besides being able to process better games, two cameras, better resolution, etc.
What are some things you guys are hooked onto, on this phone? Anything interesting?
Sorry for making so many threads but hey, I'm sure there's other looking for the same answers
" there's really not much difference besides being able to process better games, two cameras, better resolution, etc. "............LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MarsHD2 said:
I switched from an HD2 to this T989 and there's really differences being able to process better games, two cameras, better resolution, etc.
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FTFY
Plus huge screen, light weight, samoled screen, battery life, RAM, battery life.
but yeah.. other than if you flash a similar UI, there isn't much difference in appearance....
Yo, I understand it's a huge improvement from the HD2 but what you can do on it isn't really much different unless I'm missing out on high tech gadget ****, so that's where you guys come in and enlighten me!
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Yo, I understand it's a huge improvement from the HD2 but what you can do on it isn't really much different unless I'm missing out on high tech gadget ****, so that's where you guys come in and enlighten me!
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Dude you're making way too many nonsense posts here on XDA, ie: you answered your own question in your original post.........
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I switched from a HD2....but will soon be going back.
The differences....
CPU, RAM, Capacity, Screen, BATTERY LIFE !!!, Lightness, 4G, Dual core speed !
However, this phone is useless without data. My plan only works on the HD2.
Its just simply a sexy phone, who doesn't dig that? Specially if you have the white one imo.
saadkhan07 said:
I switched from a HD2....but will soon be going back.
The differences....
CPU, RAM, Capacity, Screen, BATTERY LIFE !!!, Lightness, 4G, Dual core speed !
However, this phone is useless without data. My plan only works on the HD2.
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Differences? Its all upgrades more than anything. Its like comparing a 90s vehicle with a new 2012 model
I too come from an HD2 but I would never go back. Sure development was super crazy back there but its worth it. I hate the CM7 look now, which is what I had on my HD2. ICS, though they have it already is not stable and who knows when it will be. Even then, the biggest turnoff on the HD2 for me was the poor display brightness. It was impossible to see anything on it if you put it under direct sunlight and thats when I used it the most.
Also, I don't understand how your data plan doesnt work with the SGSII. I'm still rocking the data plan I had with my HD2 and it works fine.
Yea I came from a HD2 also, dude this phone is WAY better in every aspect, we where just saved by GREAT developers.
iLeopard said:
Its just simply a sexy phone, who doesn't dig that? Specially if you have the white one imo.
Differences? Its all upgrades more than anything. Its like comparing a 90s vehicle with a new 2012 model
I too come from an HD2 but I would never go back. Sure development was super crazy back there but its worth it. I hate the CM7 look now, which is what I had on my HD2. ICS, though they have it already is not stable and who knows when it will be. Even then, the biggest turnoff on the HD2 for me was the poor display brightness. It was impossible to see anything on it if you put it under direct sunlight and thats when I used it the most.
Also, I don't understand how your data plan doesnt work with the SGSII. I'm still rocking the data plan I had with my HD2 and it works fine.
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I have tzones 4.99 unltd plan. It worked on my E71 and HD2, but doesnt on my GSII, due to the fact its not a "4G" plan
cordaylec said:
Yea I came from a HD2 also, dude this phone is WAY better in every aspect, we where just saved by GREAT developers.
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^^ THIS ^^
I came via HD2>Sensation>SGS2
Much luv to CHT. Still have my HD2.
saadkhan07 said:
I switched from a HD2....but will soon be going back.
The differences....
CPU, RAM, Capacity, Screen, BATTERY LIFE !!!, Lightness, 4G, Dual core speed !
However, this phone is useless without data. My plan only works on the HD2.
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I've never heard of an HD2 specific data plan... I to just upgraded from an HD2 myself and data is working fine. Sometimes it takes 24hrs for data to kick in (at least that's what a CSR said when I activated my sim).
But n e way, Going back to the HD2 is a SERIOUS downgrade hardware wise.
He's referring to his phone not working with the t zone plan because he has the tmobile version. I guess he's cheap and likes edge speed vs 15mbps
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Maybe it has to do with the SIM? The phone comes with a new one to enable wifi calling. I get EDGE on mine and that is what I got with my tzones wayback when I had it. I've had it drop to G (GPRS) as well on dead zones.
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