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Hello! I just got my DHD and I got many question about it, lets start.
1) I got latest firmware: 1.72.405.3 and have understood that it's not possible to root it because of security? How can I downgrade so I root my DHD?
2) How do I root my DHD after downgrade?
3) What is S-OFF / S-ON? Everyone is talking about it.
4) What is HBOOT and how can I do it?
5) What is the best rom where I got HTC Sense without to many bugs / glitches?
If you are not S-OFF you can't downgrade to the previous firmware.
S-OFF This is securie for flash not-original firmware or downgrade.
So I don't have S-OFF because I just updated my phone right after I got it in my hands, right?
So there is no way back now? Could I check if I got it S-OFF somehow?
If nothing did with the system files, you are sure have the S-ON.
To check:
1:Turn off your phone (U must have off: fastboot in setting menu -> applications)
2ress and hold "volemu down" and "power" key
3:You see bootloader and on top inscription S-ON
To have S-OFF you must have a root...
Thanks for your answer!
Btw, this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879375
Is that just the rom from HTC or is it modified?
Is that rom from HTC.
OTA = small update file
RUU = full firmware
RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE is for not branded phones.
Sorry buddy you cannot downgrade again if you didn't have radio s-off before you upgraded.
People are working on, you just gotta cross your fingers the come thru now.
seba84_2005 said:
Is that rom from HTC.
OTA = small update file
RUU = full firmware
RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE is for not branded phones.
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Well, my DHD is NOT from a company, it's just the phone it self
The screen broke on my phone and after replacing it, the screen desnt respond. I have searched the forums an found that I need to run the RUU update and the new component will then respond. Current ROM is stock and the bootloader is locked. Is there any way possible to find 3.18.401.1 or higher as I get 140 error when I try to flash it to a previous version 3.14.
No there is no 3.18 ruu !
Mr Hofs said:
No there is no 3.18 ruu !
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does this mean that i have to wait for the next available ruu?
muxatan said:
does this mean that i have to wait for the next available ruu?
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There won't be any RUU leaked for the 3.18 base any soon... You will need to restore a nandroid backup to go full stock.... But I doubt whether it has got to do with the touch...
vin4yak said:
There won't be any RUU leaked for the 3.18 base any soon... You will need to restore a nandroid backup to go full stock.... But I doubt whether it has got to do with the touch...
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I am full stock i have no access to the bootloader, as it is locked and I cannot unlock it and add a recovery as I cannot see the process. I believe the 3.18 was ota... so i have to wait the next RUU for 4.2. Dont know whether it will fix the situation, but that is my start, as the replacemat screen is original.
muxatan said:
I am full stock i have no access to the bootloader, as it is locked and I cannot unlock it and add a recovery as I cannot see the process. I believe the 3.18 was ota... so i have to wait the next RUU for 4.2. Dont know whether it will fix the situation, but that is my start, as the replacemat screen is original.
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Irrespective of whether your bootloader is locked or unlocked, you must be able to boot into bootloader, Hold the Power button and volume down button till the phones displays the bootloader.... They you need to unlock it, flash custom recovery, then restore the backup...
However, since your phone is fully stock + locked bootloader, it would be best if you send it to HTC under warranty!
i have to say that i dont see this as a software problem..but im only just learning about software on these phones. but i do know alot about the hardware on mobile and recon them as bit of a hobby to resell and sold loads of the one x,,anyway your new lcd wont of broke but by changing the lcd on these its really easy to blow the back light, what you need to do is strip it back down ,,,take battery out,,,plug the lcd back in to motherboard...put battery back in and turn on,,,if you can not see the boot up more than likely the back light has gone,,,did you buy a lcd and digitizer in one unit or sepreatly
I'm stuck in the bootloader with S-ON Tampered, Locked, and Security Warning flags. Can't find an encrypted RUU or figure out how to encrypt the one I have to get this rolling again, can anybody give me a clue or anything on how to go about doing this or getting this thing functional again?
You can get the ruus at the bottom of this post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46506621
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You can get the ruus at the bottom of this post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46506621
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Yes, it always says:
FAILED (status read failed (too many links))
Probably because its 2.10 RUU and mine is on 3.11?
Yeah an s-on phone wont allow you to flash an ruu version older than the one already on the phone. And unfortunatley, we do not have the newest ruu available yet.
So there's nothing I can do but wait? I was pretty sure I had everything flashed back to stock but once I turned S-ON it wouldn't let me go past the bootloader. My phone's sound completely stopped working so I was going to take it in to get it taken care of, but I guess I can't do anything at all now.
You can probably still flash the RUU if you get the correct one i would assume. I've reset the tampered flags before also. I always made it a point to flash the older RUU's before flipping s-on for a warranty return, because it is so much easier to get s-off in case I mess something up, so not sure how being on that newer firmware is going to play out.
ccarr313 said:
You can probably still flash the RUU if you get the correct one i would assume. I've reset the tampered flags before also. I always made it a point to flash the older RUU's before flipping s-on for a warranty return, because it is so much easier to get s-off in case I mess something up, so not sure how being on that newer firmware is going to play out.
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Yeah I'm just keeping an eye open and checking for the latest RUU. First time getting into this stuff, so lesson learned. Just sucks I'm without a phone even just to text/apps until then.
I have the same issue
GrayFalcon11 said:
Yeah I'm just keeping an eye open and checking for the latest RUU. First time getting into this stuff, so lesson learned. Just sucks I'm without a phone even just to text/apps until then.
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I was S-Off and unlocked and rooted, I was trying to flash back to stock for a warranty exchange. Now I'm Locked, S-On and flagged Tampered and stuck in the bootloader. I'm on 3.11.605.10 as well. I only have 4 days left to send this back to verizon.. Any suggestions? or I'm I butt ****ed with no lube.
keith7120 said:
I was S-Off and unlocked and rooted, I was trying to flash back to stock for a warranty exchange. Now I'm Locked, S-On and flagged Tampered and stuck in the bootloader. I'm on 3.11.605.10 as well. I only have 4 days left to send this back to verizon.. Any suggestions? or I'm I butt ****ed with no lube.
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What happen? I have 3 days left to send back to Verizon and I'm still s-off and unlocked and I don't wanna mess it up.
Do an older ruu.
Lock bootloader using fastboot.
Go s-on using fastboot.
Do a signed ruu.
cmlusco said:
Do an older ruu.
Lock bootloader using fastboot.
Go s-on using fastboot.
Do a signed ruu.
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Why 2 ruu?
Probably not really needed, but just to be sure the phone got wiped out.
Let Me Make sure I understand
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Probably not really needed, but just to be sure the phone got wiped out.
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Can I or can I not flash an older RUU?
How do I get a hold of a signed RUU? Is it the one that says decrypted?
Will this at least allow me to wipe the phone to where it does not say tampered?
I could have sworn I have tried these RUU's but I get a remote signature error.
No if you are s-on you can not flash an ruu which is an older version than the phone is currently on.
The signed and decrypted (not signed) ruu's can be found at the bottom of the second post of santods rom radio kernel thread in development. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46506621
In order to remove the tampered flag you would need to get s-off again. I believe there is a new exploit for 4.2.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51481200, if you want to go that route.
Remote sig error is because you were trying to flash an unsigned ruu while s-on.
oh well
cmlusco said:
No if you are s-on you can not flash an ruu which is an older version than the phone is currently on.
The signed and decrypted (not signed) ruu's can be found at the bottom of the second post of santods rom radio kernel thread in development. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46506621
In order to remove the tampered flag you would need to get s-off again. I believe there is a new exploit for 4.2.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51481200, if you want to go that route.
Remote sig error is because you were trying to flash an unsigned ruu while s-on.
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Welp, a couple seconds in the microwave solved my dilemma. I hope. It won't come back on.
Next question, my replacement device has 4.4.2 on it. Will the current S-off tools work to flip it from S-on to S-off?
keith7120 said:
Welp, a couple seconds in the microwave solved my dilemma. I hope. It won't come back on.
Next question, my replacement device has 4.4.2 on it. Will the current S-off tools work to flip it from S-on to S-off?
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Yup, just follow the directions on the WeakSauce thread. -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699091
eman7131 said:
Yup, just follow the directions on the WeakSauce thread. -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699091
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Thanks, I'm now S-Off
how would i go about going S-On in fastboot? my fiance device was thought to be returned to stock but we found out that it says Relocked but still says S-Off and when we try to use Firewater it stops after we say Yes cause for some reason its already showing S-off but the bootloader is actually locked.
Stuck Bootloader
Hi i need help. I am stuck in bootloader with s On and relocked. Ive read everything and no go. Please help any one
hi,
i have to return my phone guarantee because the speaker and jack input doesnt work.
i have already unroot device, flash stock recovery, (i was all the time s-on), flash stock rom and trying to lock bootloader but i cant make it LOCKED (it's RELOCKED). i was looking for any "how to" but im blind ...
can anyone help with making my bootloader LOCKED ?
pangapz said:
hi,
i have to return my phone guarantee because the speaker and jack input doesnt work.
i have already unroot device, flash stock recovery, (i was all the time s-on), flash stock rom and trying to lock bootloader but i cant make it LOCKED (it's RELOCKED). i was looking for any "how to" but im blind ...
can anyone help with making my bootloader LOCKED ?
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are you s off?
no, im sON
Only way to put it back totally stock is to be S-off.
Magnum_Enforcer said:
Only way to put it back totally stock is to be S-off.
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yeah, i dont even think about paying 25$ to s-off...
and i have one more problem: i got "Software status : Modified", i want it Official (Original), do i need s-off to make it ?
i was searching some threads and i found that flashing RUU can solve this problem but i can find RUU from my carrier (Plus, Poland)
Just a thought... 25 dollars to s-off could save you getting charged for your repair if they see you're "relocked" and deny your warranty. ?
Darth said:
Just a thought... 25 dollars to s-off could save you getting charged for your repair if they see you're "relocked" and deny your warranty.
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i know but its a "mechanical" issue not the software so they should reapir it even bootloader is unlocked ;P but i want be sure they'll do it without any problems
is possible to make Software Status : Official from Modified ?
(S-ON)
Is 25$ s-off way , can be use multiply on my device ?
You'll need S-OFF to completely return to stock with no tampering signs.... But, if they don't send you back your same device , you would need to purchase Sunshine again unfortunately. Or stay s-on.
Sunshine license is for one device only.
If they send same unit back, yes, it will work again.
But switching back to s-on is really not necessary when you send it in. I've sent mine in with s-off and many others have without issue. But that's your call. ?
Hi guys, I got the HTC 10 bell variant at a good price and since is my back up phone I'm trying to put it to the test to change it from bell variant to the US variant, I was reading a lot of threads but im confused, , I unlocked the bootloader, I instaled the twrp, now how do i change the CID ??mine shows 666, and I want to change it to 617 , do I have to have S-OFF?? or I can do that with S-ON since the Bootloader is unlocked , will I get the OTA updates for the 617 after i change it?? (btw i dont want to chage it to 401 international because im afraid i will loose the band 4 LTE )
I'm with bell and changed to us unlocked. There might be a way to do it without s-off like maybe super cid. But to install ruu.exe you need s-off. You will get ota but to apply all you need is to reinstall stock recovery.
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You can't change your CID and flash the Unlocked version without S-OFF.
Thanks guys for your replays ,btw nitramus can u pls add a step by step how I did it??I'm new with the HTC
Since you're at the cid part just look for the thread for changing cid and flash ruu. And look at the thread with all the backups for all the versions or stock rom. You will have all you need, latest available rom with ota. To prevent any problems as soon as your phone is ready to use after ruu and you logged in to you account apply ota right away, then flash supersu and have fun.
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But first do I have to take s-off??I mean to change from s-on to s-off
nutzuTo said:
But first do I have to take s-off??I mean to change from s-on to s-off
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Yes to convert your phone to U.S Unlocked you'd have to S-off to be able to change your CID. You gotta pony up the 25 USD, which is worth it in my opinion if you're gonna use the 10 as your main phone and tinker with it for a year or two.
Basically follow the steps from this guide, and when it comes to flashing an RUU use the Unlocked one you can download directly from HTC.com
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-drand-convert-htc-10-to-t3374593
BTW it's very fitting that Bell's CID is 666
Tarima said:
Yes to convert your phone to U.S Unlocked you'd have to S-off to be able to change your CID. You gotta pony up the 25 USD, which is worth it in my opinion if you're gonna use the 10 as your main phone and tinker with it for a year or two.
Basically follow the steps from this guide, and when it comes to flashing an RUU use the Unlocked one you can download directly from HTC.com
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-drand-convert-htc-10-to-t3374593
BTW it's very fitting that Bell's CID is 666
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OK did that so I have S-off, I changed the CID on the cmd , and than I flashed with RUU_PERFUME_WL_M60_SENSE80GP_NA_Gen_Unlock_1.53.617.5 than update to the latest ones that they pop up to update, nice Thank you ,btw if i want to change S-on will impact the updates or should i keep it S-off??
Personally I don't bother to change back but if security is important for you then maybe. Later depending if you want to change things again depending on what you do you might still need s-off.
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nutzuTo said:
OK did that so I have S-off, I changed the CID on the cmd , and than I flashed with RUU_PERFUME_WL_M60_SENSE80GP_NA_Gen_Unlock_1.53.617.5 than update to the latest ones that they pop up to update, nice Thank you ,btw if i want to change S-on will impact the updates or should i keep it S-off??
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If you are rooted and/or have a custom recovery, you can't use the official OTAs. You'll need the stock and never rooted ROM (it has to have an unmodified system partition), and also the stock recovery to flash it.
The easiest (and often quicker way than waiting for an official OTA) is to just flash a firmware.zip package in either fastboot or by the rename/SD card method.
I recommend the ones on this thread. You can find both Full Stock .zips there, that will wipe your phone (because they contain the boot.img), and No-Wipe .zips that won't wipe your phone (obviously) as they have the boot.img (kernel and ramdisk) removed, and also contain the latest TWRP recovery versions instead of the stock recovery.
nutzuTo said:
OK did that so I have S-off, I changed the CID on the cmd , and than I flashed with RUU_PERFUME_WL_M60_SENSE80GP_NA_Gen_Unlock_1.53.617.5 than update to the latest ones that they pop up to update, nice Thank you ,btw if i want to change S-on will impact the updates or should i keep it S-off??
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To add regarding future OTA updates, if you want them directly from HTC you'll also have to remove SuperCID, if you have it. Just having a stock/unmodified system and recovery isn't enough.
And I agree, just keep S-off unless you're making a warranty claim.
Tarima said:
To add regarding future OTA updates, if you want them directly from HTC you'll also have to remove SuperCID, if you have it. Just having a stock/unmodified system and recovery isn't enough.
And I agree, just keep S-off unless you're making a warranty claim.
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I was hoping someone might have the official stock firmware including recovery, from bell? I have to send my phone in for warranty repair. I have my stock system backed up and am on firmware 121.666... I have s-off and boot loader locked status. I have super cid 11111111. Any help will be reciprocated. Thank you for any help.
Salem's galaxy said:
I was hoping someone might have the official stock firmware including recovery, from bell? I have to send my phone in for warranty repair. I have my stock system backed up and am on firmware 121.666... I have s-off and boot loader locked status. I have super cid 11111111. Any help will be reciprocated. Thank you for any help.
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Hey, did you get this figured out?
I have a stock backup in my recovery, might work. Might not lol..
Was thinking of going US since Bell still has not pushed an update out..