Does anyone know where to set the wifi "not to sleep" during stand-by. I try to find the setting but cannot find it.
Currently, it seems like HD7 uses data connection (GPRS) to sync e-mail , calendar, etc. instead of wifi while phone is in stand-by mode. (I turn off data connection and my inboxes are not syncronized during stand-by even I turn on wifi)
It means i still have to pay for the data connection usage even i use wifi at home.
Wi-fi will stay on during standby if you plug your phone into the mains. This is to stop your phone running itself out of battery power, which it would do quite quickly if Wifi stayed running all the time.
So your answer is, plug the phone into the charger when at home.
Thank you very much
Hi all,
I'm wondering what is better option in the Sleep Policy for battery life when you have no access to a WiFi network? Sure, sure, turning off the WiFi will get you better results when you don't have access to WiFi but the location features you get from using WiFi.
At work I have no access to the WiFi network which isn't connected to the net anyways. But it works great for getting precise location information when inside the building.
I tried keeping it on "Never" but wow does that kill my battery.
Does putting it on "Never when plugged in" or "After 15 minutes" keep it from searching for a WiFi signal all the darn time which is what is killing my battery.
From what I have seen since I changed it to "Never when plugged in" half way threw the shift it doesn't seem to draw as much power. But I did check my Google Latitude history and it seems to be pulling my location from WiFi instead of the cell tower. All but a few times did it get the location from WiFi instead of the cell tower. So that has me wondering is it still looking for WiFi or just turning it on when getting a location request.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
I am using a stock HTC Droid Incredible.
I would like to have it where when the screen went off the wifi went off, but that could be a problem if the screen keeps going on and off from texts or whatever else. Would probably use more battery starting wifi over and over again.
For the last couple months when the screen goes off or i leave the phone for a while, gtalk will "loose connection to the server" and wont recive messages , sometimes the same goes for email.
i have all the settings to keep the connection on when screen goes off etc.
is their a solution for this
thanks
Maybe settings for your Wi-Fi or data connection?
Have you set your Wifi Policy to never sleep?
In Wifi Settings, press Menu and then advanced. Set it to never sleep, otherwise your wifi will disconnect when you put the phone into standby.
If it's not that, not sure what it could be.
yh i checked that setting, i tested on 3g now, it seems on 3g theirs no disconnects, so as its only wifi i can only imagine it may be my router etc, not a phone issue
Can someone please explain to me in details what's the effect of the "Enable power efficiency" setting in the phone please?. i.e. does it turn off wifi or background data? and if so how often then it turns itself on to update data etc..
I am still really confused
I think it moniters your batt ,when it drops under a certain % it auto shuts down those features which cause heavy drain ie wifi mobile network bluetooth and auto sync ,just gives you a little extra time if your not in a place were you can recharge.
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mutsc0 said:
Can someone please explain to me in details what's the effect of the "Enable power efficiency" setting in the phone please?. i.e. does it turn off wifi or background data? and if so how often then it turns itself on to update data etc..
I am still really confused
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As it self says, it will stop the auto sync for the applications like facebook, mail, google, HTC sense etc. when you are on device 3G mobile network. It has nothing to do with your wi-fi settings. Rather than using Auto Sync on your Mobile 3G network you can alternatively use "sync now" option in Widgetsoid app or plan when do you want to sync your data.
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As it self says, it will stop the auto sync for the applications like facebook, mail, google, HTC sense etc. when you are on device 3G mobile network. It has nothing to do with your wi-fi settings. Rather than using Auto Sync on your Mobile 3G network you can alternatively use "sync now" option in Widgetsoid app or plan when do you want to sync your data.
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So what's the difference with me turning off "Background data" manually?? If this is the case, this function is pretty much redundant.
its only automatic function. You can set which will be disabled when battery run low. you can fint it in options.
From what I observe at least with Desire HD & the recent 2.3.5 update, this option also affects the way device uses WiFi.
I do not know what exactly are the gradations of shudown for wifi physical or higher levels protocols, but apparently with this option enabled wifi is not so much "instant on" as it is without this option -- if the device is kept off ~10 (approx.) minutes and then switched "on", wifi connection appears only after some time.
Also (I guess as a result of the above), I observe that the device with this option enabled (being switched "off", e.g. during the night), brings up cellular data connection every ~40 minutes or so, I guess to service some data needs (this correlates with com.google.process.gapps activity). Apparently that's because it sees that wifi is really "off", and thinks it's more economic to use cellular data. I would say that average current draw does not change much due to that -- normal "always on" wifi does not take much power anyway.
I am using my new G7 Play with a Mint Mobile SIM (T-Mobile MVNO). I am seeing much worse battery performance than my G4 Play on T-Mobile prepaid SIM, even though its battery is several years old now. I tested the Mint SIM for half a day in the old phone, before I punched it down from micro to nano SIM size. I didn't notice any significantly different battery consumption during that time, but I didn't try to carefully test for an entire discharge cycle.
I have tried to configure them the same way, with the same basic apps and battery optimization settings. For reference, the G4 Play can last 5+ days with my light usage patterns. The G7 Play seems like it cannot even last for 1.5 days. The battery ran down over 25% overnight. In the same time period, my G4 Play only showed a 2% drop.
This is with WiFi on and in range for most of the hours in the day (at work or at home). Signed into GMail, Hangouts, and Slack. Location toggled off. Bluetooth toggled off. And OSMAnd+ installed from f-droid. One difference is that I am still using the default Moto launcher on the G7 Play. I replaced it with Nova Launcher on the G4 Play in order to get rid of the annoying Google search/assistant widget that was not removable in the Nougat update. Both have Moto Display and Moto Actions active, but all the gesture/camera actions are turned off. It just has the notification peeking and active display when you bump or pick up the locked phone.
I have disabled Google Music, Movies, News, and Drive to try to match the config on the G4 Play. I also am not logged in with Chrome nor Photos but those apps are not disabled. I am still searching the Android 9 settings menus, but I don't see any more things I can adjust for efficiency. The battery usage details does not seem to tell me why it is going down so fast.
I am not sure what else to try, except to blindly experiment with disabling other built-in apps/services. There seem to be many more in the G7 Play than on the G4 Play, but I don't want to accidentally cripple the phone. Another possible difference is the G7 Play is using the 5 GHz WiFi channels instead of only the 2 GHz channels. But would that explain such a difference in power draw?
Same problem here, single sim G7 play on t mobile. Tried running in safe mode for a few hours and the drain is the same. The issue seems to be running wifi and cellular radio at the same time. Wifi signal is strong, on 5 GHz. Running only on cellular reduces the drain significantly, even with my crappy -112 dbm signal. I am guessing this is some sort of bug - on a related note, if I turn on airplane mode, and then turn on wifi, the cellular radio also turns on, and cannot be turned off via *#*#4636#*#* diagnostics screen.
Current build is PPY29.105-36
Strange. I put my phone in airplane mode and then turned WiFi back on. It indicated that cellular data was off and showed no phone network status. I then turned on WiFi calling and it showed that I was on T-Mobile WiFi Calling in the lock screen status. I left it idle like this for 20 hours and the battery discharged from 100% to 93%. Today, I will try the opposite, turning off airplane mode and WiFi and using just the cellular network.
Before this test, I did play store updates, rebooted, and then fully charged the phone. There were updates to Phone and Google apps right before I rebooted. My Phone app is at version 31.0.241960258 and my Google app is at version 9.51.10.21.arm. My phone is on US Retail channel and build PPY29.105-36.
Did your cellular radio stay off the whole time? Mine will toggle back on right before my eyes. My google app is at version 9.51.8.21.arm, phone app is the same as yours.
It stays off. I'm only looking at the toggles in the pull-down status menu at the top of the phone screen. I also have bluetooth and location toggled off. Maybe you should try changing some of the location/background scanning options? I turned off those sorts of things when I first got the phone.
Yesterday, I rebooted, recharged, and tested the phone for about 8 hours w/o WiFi, but with phone and data service on. It used a lot more power than WiFi-only from the previous day. It was projecting about 2 days left when I interrupted the test.
Then, I toggled off cellular data service. For the next 9 hours, the power consumption graph flattened out a bit. It's down to 85% now bit it is projecting 3 days left instead of 2.
Ok, figured out the cellular radio turning back on, it was having wifi calling enabled, which doesn't seem to make sense, but I digress.
So you turned on wifi calling, and the power draw was still low? Can you check your cellular radio status with the wifi radio and wifi calling on with the *#*#4636#*#* diagnostics screen?
If I remember, I rebooted with wifi calling off, put it into airplane mode, turned wifi back on, then thought to enable wifi calling. It definitely did not show the cell antenna signal icon in status, and showed "T-Mobile WiFi Calling" in the lock screen. I tested it by calling the number from another phone, and it did ring.
Today, I have continued using the phone with cell modem on for calls and wifi on for internet (but cellular data toggled off and wifi calling still disabled since before last reboot). It is now down to 79% power after 25 hours of operation and predicting 4 more days at this rate. This is more like I expected originally, and not so far off from my old G4 Play.
I am pretty confused by the terrible behavior in the beginning. It may have something to do with booting up with WiFi calling enabled. Or it might be some other strange state that cleared after a few reboots?
If I remember, I'll try to put it back in the wifi-only mode next time I am back on my home network to check that status screen you mentioned. But, I am nearly sure it is going to indicate cellular modem OFF and wifi ON using 5 GHz band.
The phone info screen behind that dial code shows this regardless of whether I am in airplane mode or not: Voice Service: In Service; Mobile radio power: on; VoLTE Provisioned: on; Video Calling Provisioned: on; Wifi Calling Provisioned: on. Because of the differences in other fields and in power usage, I don't believe the indicator about radio power means anything here. The Settings->Phone Info->SIM status screen says "Mobile network state: Disconnected" and "Service status: Voice In Service/Data In Service" when I am in airplane mode w/ wifi calling active.
From the 4636 code phone info screen, these fields change:
- Airplane mode w/ wifi calling active: Signal Strength: -1 dBm 99 asu; Data Service: Disconnected; Voice Network Type: Unknown; Data Network Type: IWLAN.
- Cell on w/ wifi calling active: Signal Strength: -112 dBm 28 asu; Data Service: Disconnected; Voice Network Type: LTE; Data Network Type: IWLAN.
- Cell on w/ wifi calling disabled but wifi on: Signal Strength: -113 dBm 27 asu; Data Service: Disconnected; Voice Network Type: LTE; Data Network Type: LTE.
- Cell on w/ data on and wifi off: Signal Strengh: -110 dBm 24 asu; Data Service: Connected; Voice Network Type: LTE; Data Network Type: LTE.
And the IMS status screen further down under the three-dot menu changes:
- Airplane mode w/ wifi calling active: Voice over LTE: Unavailable; Voice over WiFi: Available.
- Cell on w/ wifi calling active: same as previous.
- Cell on w/ wifi calling disabled but wifi on: Voice over LTE: Available; Voice over WiFi: Unavailable.
- Cell on w/ data on and wifi off: same as previous.
It's only in the 4th config that I actually see "LTE" on the network signal icon in the phone status bar on the home screen.
I should also note that I set the wifi calling settings to wifi preferred/wifi for both choices.
Thanks for all of the troubleshooting info.
I guess this shoots down my simply both radios on theory. You still get bad drain when wifi and cell data are both on?
I gave it about 18 hours to find out. But no, it now seems to have little effect to turn on cell data and wifi together. The phone is continuing to have a pretty good standby power drain with WiFi, cell voice, and cell data turned on.
I'm down to 52% battery and it has been 3 days it was last charged. The power graph shows nearly the same slope over the last couple days whether I turned cell functions on or off. Where there were dips, I think it may be partly that I took the phone away from WiFi, so it started actually using LTE data, and also that I had the screen on some around those times to look at settings and respond to some texts etc.
I'll keep playing with it for a while, but I am also running out of ideas. What's frustrating is that the battery consumption info listed just cellular standby as the originall high power use, not some other app or OS function that would be easier to explain as software-caused.
Just about the only settings I have left to re-test are WiFi calling (with cell modem on), Bluetooth, and Location. I suspect that the location was on constantly in the first day because I wasn't used to the Pie status bar. In my G4P running Nougat, the location icon would be visible in the status bar whenever it is on. But on the G7P, it doesn't seem to indicate anything unless you open the drawer and look at its toggle state.
I worked my way all the way back to having everything toggled on... cell voice, cell data, wifi, wifi calling, and location. It dropped from 100% to 96% in 12 hours overnight, and estimates 10 days remaining. This is far different than the 20-25% drop I saw in the first days.
The only explanations I can think of for this whole experience so far:
1. The power use was due to application behaviour, but the usage details screens were not assigning blame correctly.
2. The battery charge estimates themselves were wildly incorrect in the first days.
3. The phone is configured to waste power out of the box, and has to "learn" to conserve power when idle.
So, the phone seems to do quite well now. I just hope it doesn't decide to switch back to its high consumption mode when I am depending on its battery to endure like it is right now...
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2. The battery charge estimates themselves were wildly incorrect in the first days.
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We know that would be an issue for sure, but the question is whether that's the only issue. I'm hoping it is.