Security - Desire General

Please can anyone expand on some of the security issues that are worrying me. I have been a pocket PC user up till now (HTC HD).
Every time I download an application I am informed that the application will may access one of the following:
1. SD card
2. The internet
3. The local network
As I keep many private things on my Desire I am worried that I am unknowingly "opening doors" for people to steal information.
What should I turn off or on to secure my Desire?
Are items downloaded from the Market secure?
Are items downloaded from other places secure?
Thanks
Sams

Don't worry about those security warnings, I just ignore them

samcory said:
As I keep many private things on my Desire I am worried that I am unknowingly "opening doors" for people to steal information.
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Essentially, yes you are!
When you install an app, it requests certain permissions so it is in your interest to review that list and make sure that the permissions that the application is asking for reconcile with what the application is supposed to do.
For example, if I'm installing a video player, I don't expect that it should need access to my contacts, emails, or SMS messages, so if I installed one that asked for those permissions I would refuse it.
Are items downloaded from the Market secure?
Are items downloaded from other places secure?
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Unlike the Apple AppStore, applications on the Market are not vetted so there is always the potential that someone could post up some malware - it is one of the few downsides of being an open platform.
Regards,
Dave

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Virtually every other app seems to want acces to the internet, that does seem a bit dangerous!!
What we need is a nice site setup that vets the apps and makes a small charge for the service. I certainly would be happy to pay for such a service toavoid having my Exchange contacts and notes being used by some nasty stranger.
Sam

^ but then every other app needs internet access. Even if it was just to post a high score. More worrying is when an app wants access to contacts/SMS/ or wants read AND Write access to something.
I was unaware the apps were not vetted.

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Missing Apps in Market

Anyone else had problems with missing apps in the Market with the Desire?
Specifically:
http://www.google.co.uk/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=72687bc93eba9a1b&hl=en
Good example seems to be the National Rail app, but I'm finding plenty of others too...some I've paid for :-(
Daern
Yes, I have. JuiceDefender is missing for me, however I got it from andappstore.com. No sign of that National Rail one there though.
And the BlueAnt Q1 app is not available....
I think everybody has problems finding all the programs. Try to search for Raging Thunder 2 for example. You will properbly only find the lite version and not the full version. I bought the full version with my Milestone, but now it cannot be found anymore.
Every Android phone has a 'fingerprint' in the build.prop file. This fingerprint has to be approved by google. Somehow google has not yet approved the fingerprint of the Desire, so protected apps cannot be fount yet.....
I have no clue why this takes so long.
Maybe someone from google is here and reads this and can explain to us why it's taking so long for the fingerprint to be approved?
Interesting. According to the similar thread about the Legend, however, it seems that HTC are pushing out an update to fix this...
Perhaps it's the fingerprint from the Hero
I've read about this issue which was recently explained by a developer of XDA (nprussell).
Apparently everyone is in the same boat so to speak. He states that many "protected" apps are missing from the market. There are generally two reasons why apps will be missing from the market:
When a new ROM or handset is released, the manufacturer (i.e. HTC), sends the build to Google for verification, which includes a 'Fingerprint' (a unique line of text which governs its market access) in one of the build files. Generally, it states the name of the phone and Android version in the fingerprint. With Root & System write access, this fingerprint can be changed, but although it's been claimed that the Desire has recently been Rooted, we still don't have confirmation from any developer of it being able to gain System write access.
Only until Google approve the build, then fingerprint will be added to their allowed database to view these protected apps on the market.
The other cause for apps missing from the market in builds is because of permissions of certain apps. For example, the barcode scanner app requires permissions to use the camera/auto focus. They are NOT protected apps. If the XML permission files are missing from system/etc/permissions, then Google Market will simply block these apps from showing.
HTC need to chase Google up on this and Google need to activate the Fingerprint.
Excellent info, thanks for that. So it's chasing HTC to get them to chase Google for an update.
I think I'll just go back to stopping the tide from coming in...much better chance of success, I reckon
Is there no where we can download the apk (for free apps of course) and just transfer it to the phone and install it ourselves?
strange think is I could find some apps. I found and installed Barcode Scanner no prob..
???
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Is there no where we can download the apk (for free apps of course) and just transfer it to the phone and install it ourselves?
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just google which ever apk you want (for free apps obviously) and install it to your phone, with the sync software that was on your original memory card.
i emailed HTC today to find out what they and google are doing to sort this out. if everyone emails them they might eventually chase google...
Mastoid said:
I've read about this issue which was recently explained by a developer of XDA (nprussell).
Apparently everyone is in the same boat so to speak. He states that many "protected" apps are missing from the market. There are generally two reasons why apps will be missing from the market:
When a new ROM or handset is released, the manufacturer (i.e. HTC), sends the build to Google for verification, which includes a 'Fingerprint' (a unique line of text which governs its market access) in one of the build files. Generally, it states the name of the phone and Android version in the fingerprint. With Root & System write access, this fingerprint can be changed, but although it's been claimed that the Desire has recently been Rooted, we still don't have confirmation from any developer of it being able to gain System write access.
Only until Google approve the build, then fingerprint will be added to their allowed database to view these protected apps on the market.
The other cause for apps missing from the market in builds is because of permissions of certain apps. For example, the barcode scanner app requires permissions to use the camera/auto focus. They are NOT protected apps. If the XML permission files are missing from system/etc/permissions, then Google Market will simply block these apps from showing.
HTC need to chase Google up on this and Google need to activate the Fingerprint.
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Just to confirm this explanation, I actually emailed HTC support asking about the missing apps and this was pretty much exactly what they told me. They are waiting for Google to approve the ROM for copy protected apps, and apparently it takes about a week... so hopefully we can expect full access some time next week. Fingers crossed!
foner78 said:
Just to confirm this explanation, I actually emailed HTC support asking about the missing apps and this was pretty much exactly what they told me. They are waiting for Google to approve the ROM for copy protected apps, and apparently it takes about a week... so hopefully we can expect full access some time next week. Fingers crossed!
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Nice one Bud, thanks for that update
All back for me Now on Vodafone
Yep. One of those apps for me was Google Earth since this is what I was facing so I installed it from the link here too and all works well: http://www.google.co.uk/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=46acda8204439646&hl=en
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Yep. One of those apps for me was Google Earth since this is what I was facing so I installed it from the link here too and all works well: http://www.google.co.uk/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=46acda8204439646&hl=en
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Yep, that's about all we can do right now to install apps (or use barcode scanner app) which are not available via the Marketplace.
Tip: For anyone who has not done this yet and would like to know, make sure you first install HTC Sync (found pre-installed via your SD card).

What if you do not use Facebook or Twitter?

I know it is hard to believe that in this day and age there are people who do not spend half their day refreshing Facebook and Twitter. I personally do not even have an account at Facebook or Twitter or any other social networking site.
This is no problem as long as Facebook access is contained in an app that I can simply not launch. In WP7 however, from what I've seen of it at least, the social networking aspects seem completely unavoidable.
Whenever I go into contacts or people or whatever they are calling it, there will be a whole "What's New" column (Facebook Wall or recent Tweets I guess?) that for me would be blank all the time. Then there is the option to "share" content with others that seems to appear on every other context menu in the OS.
I'll admit my knowledge of WP7 is so far only skin deep. It is just a lot of what I read about it talks about how well integrated it is with social networks.
So does anyone know how far this integration goes? Is it just a few features that can be easily ignored? Or is it so deeply weeded to the OS that it would be constantly in your way and difficult to remove, like IE used to be with Windows.
If it is the later, clearly the best solution would be to not purchase a phone with WP7 on it.
Clearly WP7 has a ton of social integration within the OS but I don't think it's going to be mandatory that you actually use the stuff. They are aiming the device at business as well as entertainment and I know some companies would not want their employees doing facebook on their work phones. I'm sure they've realized this and made it so those features just don't show up when you arent linked to a facebook account.
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I know it is hard to believe that in this day and age there are people who do not spend half their day refreshing Facebook and Twitter. I personally do not even have an account at Facebook or Twitter or any other social networking site.
This is no problem as long as Facebook access is contained in an app that I can simply not launch. In WP7 however, from what I've seen of it at least, the social networking aspects seem completely unavoidable.
Whenever I go into contacts or people or whatever they are calling it, there will be a whole "What's New" column (Facebook Wall or recent Tweets I guess?) that for me would be blank all the time. Then there is the option to "share" content with others that seems to appear on every other context menu in the OS.
I'll admit my knowledge of WP7 is so far only skin deep. It is just a lot of what I read about it talks about how well integrated it is with social networks.
So does anyone know how far this integration goes? Is it just a few features that can be easily ignored? Or is it so deeply weeded to the OS that it would be constantly in your way and difficult to remove, like IE used to be with Windows.
If it is the later, clearly the best solution would be to not purchase a phone with WP7 on it.
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+1 with a little difference.
What do people like us do who do have facebook and twitter account but since we are based in china they are completely blocked here. Facebook, twitter, dailymotion, youtube etc are mostly blocked and hence i see the integration in Win 7 not much useful. Though i do think it will offer a lot of uniqueness but for me it would be iphone in the very future when i decide to buy the phone.
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I hate face..shi..t and I don't need twitter
but, because I do not have an account on these sites would stop using WM7
sorry for my english.. is english-google.. XD
if you dont have a account then just dont sign in..its not mandatory, just an added feature that you can turn on if you want/need
I don't understand. If you don't use Facebook and Twitter then just... don't use it. What task could you possibly be trying to do that would say"must log in to Facebook to continue"? None
If you don't have Facebook feeds coming in there is nothing to avoid or ignore.. so what's the problem again?
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I don't understand. If you don't use Facebook and Twitter then just... don't use it. What task could you possibly be trying to do that would say"must log in to Facebook to continue"? None
If you don't have Facebook feeds coming in there is nothing to avoid or ignore.. so what's the problem again?
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Are you sure?
In the emulator at least, the column "What's New" is always there. Whether it be right next to the alphabetical list of contacts, or right next to the single contact info screen.
Also, because of the panorama display, you always see part of the next screen to your right. Then there is the fact that it is necessary to pan your way through contiguous screens to get to the one you want (there seems to be no way to skip over intervening screens/tabs).
These are the two main reasons which lead me to believe that this kind of integration is not something that can be simply disabled.
I never setup any Facebook account on the emulator.
Of course I realize that this is beta/alpha software I am dealing with. Hopefully Microsoft will be smart enough to remove social networking related tabs (screens, pages, what are they supposed to be called now?) if the appropriate accounts are not set up.
I don't see why a "share" option in a context menu or a "What's New" tab on a panel can't be shown if a person does not have social networking set up.
Take Sony Ericsson phones for example. MusicNow and stuff like a WAP browser don't simply "disappear" if you don't set it up. It's still there among the options.
Look at Nokia phones. Even if you don't set up an APN for use with internet, the option to click on a link from a SMS to launch a website would still appear. Whether you click on it is up to you.
The option to "share" in WP7 should always be there. Whether you click on it is up to you.
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What do people like us do who do have facebook and twitter account but since we are based in china they are completely blocked here. Facebook, twitter, dailymotion, youtube etc are mostly blocked and hence i see the integration in Win 7 not much useful. Though i do think it will offer a lot of uniqueness but for me it would be iphone in the very future when i decide to buy the phone.
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Maybe you can use a proxy or VPN service?
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Are you sure?
In the emulator at least, the column "What's New" is always there. Whether it be right next to the alphabetical list of contacts, or right next to the single contact info screen.
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With the whats new maybe if you don't have Facebook/twitter linked it would just show recent SMS under peoples names or emails?
I'm going on the assumption that because the OEM developer documentation says that any OEM included applications 'must work without network/internet connectivity' that the OS will also work this way and there will be options to turn on and off the features.
It may turn out that we need to 'unlock' these features though as so far I've only seen it written in OEM info.
Interesting. Wouldn't that requirement exclude the inclusion of something like a weather application? Or does it just mean that the program would have to have the capability to cache data for offline use if necessary.
Even assuming that 'What's New' doesn't show you emails, SMS and other updates from that contact that have nothing to do with social networks...
you don't have to swipe over there.
With developers' ability to plug in, 'What's New' is at some point going to include some functionality you're interested in. Even if it's empty, that's no reason to disable it
I do hope you are correct about What's New being populated with emails/SMS etc, that would at least make some sense. But if this is not the case, I do not see why I should need to put up with an entirely worthless panel just on the off chance that some carrier may someday decide to put something there that interests me.
And why shouldn't I be able to disable it? If it is not disabled and just left empty as you suggest, I would indeed have to swipe it as the OS does not seem to provide a way to simply jump to the panel you want to see. This is another issue entirely, constantly having to swipe through unwanted content just to get the information you do want will get old very quickly.
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And why shouldn't I be able to disable it?
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Why shouldn't you be able to multi-task?
Why shouldn't you be able to develop in any language for any API that you want?
Why shouldn't you...

Send to WP7 now has a desktop companion app

The desktop counterpart integrates with explorer and allows you to right click on any file ex docs and pictures and send it to your windows phone! I am not sure how secure the cloud storage is at the moment but this is some nice innovation for a free app.
Read more here: http://wpcentral.com/send-wp7-hits-back-desktop-app
You can compose texts, emails and notes on the desktop and send it to the phone as well. The application utilizes windows 7 jumplists and works almost instantaneously.
I'm impressed.
Cloud is the future. Resistance is futile.
Well, well, well...I guess if Microsoft wasn't going to step in and make SkyDrive play nice on WP7 (access through browser doesn't count if you cannot sync), then someone had to. I like where Send To WP7 is going. It is quite impressive indeed.
It's just a shame that Microsoft, who probably has more data centres than 98% of all corporations in the world, and is in the best position to promote cloud services ( like Windows Live ) is still lagging behind.
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
If only you could make a "Send From WP7" app...
The ability to send to other Windows Phones would be nice.
kapanak said:
If only you could make a "Send From WP7" app...
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No APIs to let me do this, unfortunately.
karelj said:
The ability to send to other Windows Phones would be nice.
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I'm not so sure this is practical, you may as well just email a link, right? if you're talking about from the browser, using the bookmarklet for alternate phones is supported in all desktop browsers.
davux, i'm not sure if it's possible as you don't have socket support, but a possible way to get skydrive access to work is to pass windows phone through fiddler and work out what it does when it syncs a onenote note to skydrive. i'm pretty sure this would be socket base meaning you'd be stuck, but if it isn't, you may just have the information required to directly upload to skydrive, with proper credentials and all.
it's just an idea, but this is what i'd try as a developer (yes i am one, but no where near experienced enough at this stage).
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davux, i'm not sure if it's possible as you don't have socket support, but a possible way to get skydrive access to work is to pass windows phone through fiddler and work out what it does when it syncs a onenote note to skydrive. i'm pretty sure this would be socket base meaning you'd be stuck, but if it isn't, you may just have the information required to directly upload to skydrive, with proper credentials and all.
it's just an idea, but this is what i'd try as a developer (yes i am one, but no where near experienced enough at this stage).
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I can actually access SkyDrive via WebDAV already, which is an HTTP protocol. I suspect OneNote sync does something similar, but I haven't checked it out. The primary issue with this approach is that it won't be all that useful. Images and text would transfer well like this, but if you wanted to send a PDF, or Office doc, there would be no way to open it. The only way to open these types of docs is through the browser. I figured a really important use-case is documents, so I decided to take another approach.
BTW - the current build of the desktop app now supports uploading to localhostr.com, serving up files via a local HTTP server, and using your Dropbox account.
davux said:
I can actually access SkyDrive via WebDAV already, which is an HTTP protocol. I suspect OneNote sync does something similar, but I haven't checked it out. The primary issue with this approach is that it won't be all that useful. Images and text would transfer well like this, but if you wanted to send a PDF, or Office doc, there would be no way to open it. The only way to open these types of docs is through the browser. I figured a really important use-case is documents, so I decided to take another approach.
BTW - the current build of the desktop app now supports uploading to localhostr.com, serving up files via a local HTTP server, and using your Dropbox account.
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Thank you for directly conversing with us Dave. I agree getting documents to the phone is the ideal usage of this application. Keep up the good work!
sayonical said:
The desktop counterpart integrates with explorer and allows you to right click on any file ex docs and pictures and send it to your windows phone! I am not sure how secure the cloud storage is at the moment but this is some nice innovation for a free app.
Read more here: http://wpcentral.com/send-wp7-hits-back-desktop-app
You can compose texts, emails and notes on the desktop and send it to the phone as well. The application utilizes windows 7 jumplists and works almost instantaneously.
I'm impressed.
Cloud is the future. Resistance is futile.
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just set it up. The push notifications are instant!!!
davux said:
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
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Interesting stuff indeed. I for one, appreciate the work you are doing.
Wait a minute, you can use the Desktop app and upload to phone using your own local network? That is significantly easier to trust than a free cloud service.
kapanak said:
Wait a minute, you can use the Desktop app and upload to phone using your own local network? That is significantly easier to trust than a free cloud service.
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Yes. Unfortunately I can't make it an SSL connection, I'm not willing to pay for a cert. I will see if a test-signed certificate will work, but that is not actually as secure.
davux said:
Yes. Unfortunately I can't make it an SSL connection, I'm not willing to pay for a cert. I will see if a test-signed certificate will work, but that is not actually as secure.
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I've been trying out the desktop app with the local Wi-Fi method, and this seems to me the best way to get stuff to the phone. It's very quick too.
The dropbox integration isworking, and quite well. I'm wondering is there a way in future to upload to a private dropbox share?
Even though it's only an early preview, the dekstop app is great. I like the integration with Windows 7; I have it pinned to my taskbar. Might be useful to have a "Start with Windows" option in there. I'm sure you're aware of some of the bugs like the lack of proper icons in the jumplist Tasks and the filenaming issue that causes PDFs to be unreadable from WP7. To be expected with a preview.
From a UI point of view, I think the "Set Transfer Destination" option should not be in the jumplist and should be in the main config window instead. It's not a menu item you would need ever access to again after you've set your dropbox settings.
The WP7 app itself is also coming along great. I'm wondering if you will split the file list into categories, eg Notes, Links, Images, Files etc. Or failing that, have just "New" and "All" categories? Perhaps, for things like notes, you can Archive them into an Archive category... just an idea. Oh, and when a file is sent via the desktop app at the moment, for example a photo, instead of displaying just as "File", perhaps it could display as "File - {name}"?
Great stuff, getting great use out of this app so far, and its usefulness will explode when copy and paste arrives to WP7 devices. Thanks!
A big thanks to Dave for this excellent tool, it is also nice to see a thread wherevpeoplevare pushing the boundaries of what can be done with wp7 rather than just slanting it off.
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The dropbox integration isworking, and quite well. I'm wondering is there a way in future to upload to a private dropbox share?
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Not likely, as I've been saying, the phone needs to be able to access a share via the web browser. As far as I know, Dropbox private folders won't do this. That's why I've included an option to mutate the name a bit, so someone can't just guess filenames in your public folder.
The WP7 app itself is also coming along great. I'm wondering if you will split the file list into categories, eg Notes, Links, Images, Files etc. Or failing that, have just "New" and "All" categories? Perhaps, for things like notes, you can Archive them into an Archive category... just an idea. Oh, and when a file is sent via the desktop app at the moment, for example a photo, instead of displaying just as "File", perhaps it could display as "File - {name}"?
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Note that the phone app has absolutely no support for the desktop app at this time, I will bring support for it in an update. Views are likely, I haven't decided what to do yet. I wouldn't expect that update for a couple of weeks though.
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A big thanks to Dave for this excellent tool, it is also nice to see a thread wherevpeoplevare pushing the boundaries of what can be done with wp7 rather than just slanting it off.
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Thanks.
Send to WP7 Desktop
Dave, thanks for this app. It works well so far & I'm sure I'll get a lot of use out of this. One problem though I'm not getting notifications & when I open the app on the phone I get a push notification error. 'Failed to open channel'. Great work mate. Keep it up. Will send a donation when I get a chance.
davux said:
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
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I can not download it in Germany
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Dave, thanks for this app. It works well so far & I'm sure I'll get a lot of use out of this. One problem though I'm not getting notifications & when I open the app on the phone I get a push notification error. 'Failed to open channel'. Great work mate. Keep it up. Will send a donation when I get a chance.
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I actually have this same problem on my device. I opened the same-named notification channel on a dev build, then I uninstalled that build while it had the channel open - now neither the marketplace build nor new dev builds will open the channel.
I don't know how you got into this situation, but my point is that I don't really know what I can do to help--I'm under the assumption that all I can do to fix my device is to do a master reset (so I'm waiting for the NoDo update). I'm hoping that this bug is fixed in the next update, but I don't know if it's even officially reported.
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I can not download it in Germany
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I've selected all possible countries, which I think includes Germany. I don't think there is anything else I can do for you--maybe I could post a link to the XAP and you could sideload it? My only issue with this is that I'll then have to maintain a secondary distribution channel, and will need to build some kind of updater.
you should be able to post a zune link and it should allow him to access it that way. no need to sideload.
The Zune:// link has always been on my product page.
http://www.daveamenta.com/products/chrome-to-wp7/

Best cloud storage for viewing files online?

I'm looking for a cloud storage app for my phone, I need to be able to get access to pics and other media files?
jonas000 said:
I'm looking for a cloud storage app for my phone, I need to be able to get access to pics and other media files?
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Erm. Dropbox?
There are a host of threads on this bud.
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if security is a must take a look at wuala, not as user friendly as dropbox but it is secure.
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For non-personal data (video,photo) -> Dropbox/Boxee/Skydrive depending on your need.
For personal data (personal documents) -> Wuala (Secured, none except you can access your files, not even Wuala. Files get encrypted before sending to server).
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For non-personal data (video,photo) -> Dropbox/Boxee/Skydrive depending on your need.
For personal data (personal documents) -> Wuala (Secured, none except you can access your files, not even Wuala. Files get encrypted before sending to server).
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Let's face it. Depending what you are tyring to secure, nothing is unbreakable. Whoever develops the encryption, generally has a back door. Be sure NSA, has a way.So nothing is safe. You have to develop other ways to be secure.
This is from Wuala's "About us"
"Nobody - not even we as storage provider - can access your data without your authorization. "
Your authorization is the key word here.
Then read in fine detail in the EULA what you Agreed To, when you accepted the use of their software.
+1 for Wuala, even hosted my ROM there, but I'll also be using Dropbox a bit more now thanks to HTC
Bottom line, they're both very good in my experience.
In my opinion Dropbox gives a really good service with an awesome integration on our Android phones. If you've got a data plan there are more possibilities, for example you can share a photo/video/data with your friends in a public folder so your friends can check out this folder whenever they want.
Definitely, Dropbox is gorgeous
Dropbox for me is better than sugarsync or box.net, the weak point only give 2.5 GB
globalgpj said:
Let's face it. Depending what you are tyring to secure, nothing is unbreakable. Whoever develops the encryption, generally has a back door. Be sure NSA, has a way.So nothing is safe. You have to develop other ways to be secure.
This is from Wuala's "About us"
"Nobody - not even we as storage provider - can access your data without your authorization. "
Your authorization is the key word here.
Then read in fine detail in the EULA what you Agreed To, when you accepted the use of their software.
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I'm not saying it unbreakable, just less breakable then Dropbox. Which is important if there are some personal documents in it.
H-Cim said:
I'm not saying it unbreakable, just less breakable then Dropbox. Which is important if there are some personal documents in it.
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But what kind of documents are we talking about here? A shopping list? A degree certificate? A CV? People really fuss about personal security nowadays. I believe dropbox when they say that they're not giving out information without a court order and even then inform the user first. Why? Because if there was a single substantial case that they provided information with less than that, they'd soon be out of business. Hello anonymous-and-whatever-else-backed ****storm.
Let's face it, 99.98% of us aren't important enough to be spied upon in a cautiously planned and we'll executed manner. And even then we should be rather worried about our post, calls and home.
A social security number? Credit card pin? Dropbox + Keepass ftw.
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baum01 said:
But what kind of documents are we talking about here? A shopping list? A degree certificate? A CV? People really fuss about personal security nowadays. I believe dropbox when they say that they're not giving out information without a court order and even then inform the user first. Why? Because if there was a single substantial case that they provided information with less than that, they'd soon be out of business. Hello anonymous-and-whatever-else-backed ****storm.
Let's face it, 99.98% of us aren't important enough to be spied upon in a cautiously planned and we'll executed manner. And even then we should be rather worried about our post, calls and home.
A social security number? Credit card pin? Dropbox + Keepass ftw.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA
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Nah It's not because I'm paranoid, I just prefer my documents like college stuff, bank account stuff (not the login info obviously), bills, contracts to be encrypted before they are uploaded.
If you can encrypt your documents for free anyway, why don't do so? (You never know if Dropbox/Wuala get hacked, I rather have a little layer of security then).
besides wuala is cheaper
In my opinion Dropbox, Box, Google Drive, and SkyDrive will be the perfect fit for the mentioned task. From the box android app when you signup you get 50 GB free space for life time. It a free app and easy to use and with Dropbox, you will get 5GB of storage free. You may also browse some useful information on best cloud storage providers!
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Dropbox for me is better than sugarsync or box.net, the weak point only give 2.5 GB
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I use Dropbox heavily, friends around Australia all share through it so have access to all our photos and videos (we 4wd quite a lot )
Carry out as many space earning things as you can, I got 4 or 5GB doing that, plus 25GB for the one x deal and 50GB for the S3 LTE deal so currently have 80GB storage space

LineageOS 14.1 - How to enable Email app for restricted user (for Exchange)?

Hi,
finally I found LineageOS as a suitable OS for the Moto G4 Plus in a work environment, where employees get an restricted user profile. In my test, everything seems to work fine up to now. But the problem is now that I cannot enable the "Email"App for the restricted profiles to connect to the Exchangeserver 2010.
Since k9-Mail does not work with Exchange, it could not work as a replacement.
I read, the reason is that a google account cannot be used in restricted accounts. That is fine. But I don't want to use a google but an exchange account. Does anyone has an idea how to solve this?
risaer said:
Hi, finally I found LineageOS as a suitable OS for the Moto G4 Plus in a work environment, where employees get an restricted user profile. In my test, everything seems to work fine up to now...
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I don't have this device but, your best bet is to post this question within the following Official LineageOS thread for your device.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3522101
If all else fails, and you don't receive any responses from the above thread, you can always try to obtain some member guidance within the following Q&A thread that's specific to your device.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3526598
Good Luck!
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risaer said:
Hi,
finally I found LineageOS as a suitable OS for the Moto G4 Plus in a work environment, where employees get an restricted user profile. In my test, everything seems to work fine up to now. But the problem is now that I cannot enable the "Email"App for the restricted profiles to connect to the Exchangeserver 2010.
Since k9-Mail does not work with Exchange, it could not work as a replacement.
I read, the reason is that a google account cannot be used in restricted accounts. That is fine. But I don't want to use a google but an exchange account. Does anyone has an idea how to solve this?
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So you have gapps installed. Do you really need it in this setup? Without gapps you get the default aosp mail. No Google account on the phone.
Hmm. I suppose it is not a device specific problem, but a general one.
Maybe even a general Nougat one? <-- UPDATE: Stock seems not to have the selection list **
And no. No GAPPs. It is the modified Version with MicroG. Email app is com.android.email (Version 7.1.2). I will try the unmodified version also.
If I go to the user page where I can allow, which apps can be used, more or less every app is listed but (UKW-Radio, Recorder AND E-Mail).
I also tried to move the Email from /system/app to /data/app which only caused force closes.
Maybe another reason could be that by entering exchange data you will be forced to add it as device administrator so it is not in the list?
Any help is apreciated.
I tested several mail-apps now, but either they do not support the Exchange server or they send a lot of data to other obscure servers so I have not found any alternative. I also installed the "Gmail" app (which is also usable with an exchange account) but this also does not appear in the share list and I absolutely do not understand why.
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I tested several mail-apps now, but either they do not support the Exchange server or they send a lot of data to other obscure servers so I have not found any alternative. I also installed the "Gmail" app (which is also usable with an exchange account) but this also does not appear in the share list and I absolutely do not understand why.
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Looks like you should install something from Microsoft.
kurtn said:
Looks like you should install something from Microsoft.
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Sorry, if I do not understand if there is a hidden meaning behind this. If this is a serious tip I do not know what app? The android outlook app (which really looks neat) happily transfers AND STORES your account credentials and the content on their servers (see e.g. https://www.pcworld.com/article/288...s-new-outlook-apps-over-privacy-concerns.html , article is from 2015, but I suppose it is still valid. Some time ago I checked it and found out that there is no connection to my but only to some foreign servers). That is not only critical in my sense of privacy but also illegal in the sense of the GPDR. Funny that some people advertise certified Microsoft cloud products for the GPDR.
Nevertheless: Even if I would not use an MS server this would not solve the problem that I cannot select Email or GMail as an allowed app for an restricted user. I also tried the unmodified Lineageos but it has the same issue.
I really do not understand how all the companies work with android phones in working environments. All this fiddeling around just do protect the phones by encrypting the content in case of loss, to give the user restricted access so that they cannot install apps that must not be on the device and to care about privacy. Like on a usual work pc. Do they all use I-Phones?
possible Explaination (?)
(arrg. Always copy your text before you try to send your post) short summary of what I've written:
according to these links my understanding like this:
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3175031?hl=en and https://android.stackexchange.com/q...restricted-accounts-on-phone-running-lollipop
"Normal user" and "restricted user" is not equivalent to windows "admin" and "restricted user". "restricted users" are not allowed to use accounts so you need to use "normal user" which has some rights less than the owner. All allowed apps has to be installed again (but are just links, no duplicates).
The store and some other apps can be locked with a pattern.
I will test this. If you have further ideas or a suiable management solution for more than 10 phones to hesitate to write.

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