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I did create a post..asking if anyone had started work on this...
Got not one reply...
Seeing as i have them both.. x1 and HD..
So.. i thought.... Lets have a go....
Proof of concept only.....not a distributable version.
Sony Xperia X1 Panels.....Running on Touch HD
It's got a long way to go and lots of work needed... but it should
end up a very good addition to the Touch HD, and once done, work can commence on porting to different resolutions.
I like the look of this front end alot better than the TF3D
What do you guys reckon?
THERE IS NO CAB. ASK AT YOUR PERIL!
Anyone asking for it, will be flogged, tarred, feathered and called a leper!
Staus Updates
11/12/2008
There has been advances but very slow ones, It has been very "finiky" getting those "right changes" to commit more "stability changes"
It is because the HD was never meant to host Panels, and thus, is causing me a real pain in the backside! I'm currently looking at different roms, and versions of software, to try alternate file versions, to see if a combination is what is needed. Once this part is done, it should address a great deal of issues. Upto about 3 Hard resets a night, I think i should have a special button to do it on the back!
03/12/2008
It has been brought to my attention, there is a Cab available on another thread, but i have no input on this.
It is at the same point i was about a month ago.
It is a simple copy and paste from a X1 and is unstable.
I did not put out a version like this, as It requires your phone be reset after running panels after about 5 times, and i am aware why.
I thought It would be unfair to users to give them something that would pretty much trash the stability of the HD.
You know where it is if you do not care about this, and just want to install it.
I will not be putting out my version till i know atleast it will not trash your phone. That would subtract from the work done, and after some of us spending 500GBP+ the last thing needed is a paperweight.
01/12/2008
With the help of 'Keni'.. a new junior member... He has helped move us along also.. and produced...
The Panel icon on the titlebar.
It does need work.. and for it to function i need help again from nelshh
But he has no-doubt spent alot of time.. and got some code done.
I have to commend his effort.. and now wish to happily add him to the contributer list along with nelshh
See post 304 for pic and wmv
Thanks keni !
I am still working on te next alpha build and am struggling with the concurrence manager.
After using panels chooser anywhere from 5-10 times.. it egg timers out.. and batt out is the only recourse.
The testing on one of my HD's is now at a point.. it is a daily reset at minimum,,, but i'll carry on.
27/11/08
This has been such a painful last few days.... I have had unknown numbers of hard-resets trying to get the failing panels to operate properly.
2 developers are currently trying to help create the panel icon (see post 104) If anyone else can help aaswell...????
At the moment.. it's still doign my head in... but i am still working on this..
Those of you who have made donations.. and the kind words.. I am very grateful... and the bottle of White Zinfandel has been bought.. and shall be devoured tomorrow by her.!
I know alot of you guys are awaiting on me.. and that's why i haven't stopped.
Thanks guys... (and their mrs's for not divorcing them!)
PS.. my wife also wants a developer to create a couple of buttons on her omnia.
One button = Husband puts down phones!
Two Button = Husband does not grunt when asked question by her.. cos he is engrossed in panels!
Three button = Husband does not buy another new phone ever ever ever again!
I told her.. this is impossible... but she still asked me to find out.
23/11/08
The Alpha Cab has gone out to 5 selected testers.
This is a test version.. with many bugs.
So far.. this is the feedback
It installs.
It launches
It works
However.
Media panel & Facebook panel don't work on Alpha 0.02
Panel launcher Working. 3 testers had issues with relaunches after 5 times.It then becomes unresponsive
TF3d / Coloured Xperia / Silver Xperia / Radio Panel / SPB Panel / Google panel and Fish Panel all operate.
Animation works well on all.
I will work to address some of these.. and release a second alpha cab only to the Alpha testers.
19/11/2008
Alpha Build 0.02.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4rnX1V8cLiw
15/11/2008
Big jump made by all work done by nelshh (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=916337)
He has developed a working prototype that will call the panel manager tab.
So.. AS OF TODAY.. the 15th.. thanks to nelshh, we have something that now functions..and needs finalising and wrapping.
I will contact people to see if you can also help.
But please give nelshh a big thanks on this thread... for all his work in his project Xperiatweak (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440035)... and also his work on here.
Thanks nelshh
15/11/2008
Added Tube video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jo0ZhxOi8s
12/11/2008
added yet another tube.. GSen and the Panels... It works...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqQFMKCRJc
10/11/2008
Added another Video.... showing all progress...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz3zptQed7Q
hi,
Am sure lot of guys here would be interested to do the testing & developement for you.Can you post here, how you started with porting panels onto HD? I searched for the panels cab and cant find anything on this xda ? Would be useful if you could give some more information,
regards
vijayvasa
works fine on HD?
Is much slower than xperia?
The panels looks good on HD as comapre to X1 because of the large screen. Do share the cabs and procedure to do that once you are done.
Thanks in advance.
Hope the panels work faster than on the X1 otherwise they are useless. On the X1 they are way to slow to work productively with them.
But the chance that they work faster on the HD are small, right? Cos the hardware of both the X1 and the HD are about the same, are they?
Also looking forward for a cab file for testing them by myself.
Ascenca
Hello Harvsingh,
I would be very interested in helping you, but I have absolutely no experience in programing (besides my old ti-83plus). Do you think I could help you somehow? Can you tell me what I should do? I don't want to loose this project only because nobody here wants to help... So, if I can do something, I'll try to do it!! I think I'll get my HD this week, than I can try everything and if you tell me, also other things. I really want to help... Greez, cad^^
Wow HarvSingh !
Good for you! Looks like a good job on the face of it!
Great to see this post!
Have seen someone porting TouchFlo3D to Xperia, and was wondering whether anyone would port the Xperia Panel over to Touch HD.
Well, hopefully you would share the cab file for the rest of us to do a test on it, and more people to come and improve on it.
Do you manage to get the gold fish to work too? Guess it would really be nice to let the gold fish swim on the bigger screen.
multan said:
Great to see this post!
Have seen someone porting TouchFlo3D to Xperia, and was wondering whether anyone would port the Xperia Panel over to Touch HD.
Well, hopefully you would share the cab file for the rest of us to do a test on it, and more people to come and improve on it.
Do you manage to get the gold fish to work too? Guess it would really be nice to let the gold fish swim on the bigger screen.
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Thanks for the words.....
Yes.. all panels work.. but not after a reboot..
Fish are very happy in the bigger tank.. and stroking the screen has the same affect on scared little fishy
It's now a case in finding out what is causing it to flap itself on a reboot.
On a hard reset... going through my way to wedge the panels in.. works... then on reboot... i cannot start it.
Also.. after selecting the panel you want.. i'm still to find the call it makes from the X1 panel button to call up panel chooser with the tiled view.. so. when you've selected the panel.. you cannot re-choose another.
but.. this is my first day in doing this.. and i guess i'll plod along.. till i find it.. or just think screw it.
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Wow HarvSingh !
Good for you! Looks like a good job on the face of it!
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Thanks.... good to know i'm not the only one who would have liked to see it on the HD or others
Have you definitely told it to not load the TouchFlo3D? That may interfere with it after a reboot.
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Have you definitely told it to not load the TouchFlo3D? That may interfere with it after a reboot.
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Yes...
But i'm now exploring reg of the X1 to see if it does anything else....
cadenza said:
Hello Harvsingh,
I would be very interested in helping you, but I have absolutely no experience in programing (besides my old ti-83plus). Do you think I could help you somehow? Can you tell me what I should do? I don't want to loose this project only because nobody here wants to help... So, if I can do something, I'll try to do it!! I think I'll get my HD this week, than I can try everything and if you tell me, also other things. I really want to help... Greez, cad^^
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Same thing here. Would like to help with it also I really dont have much experience with WM at all. But I will help where I can cos this project has to develop to a fine product
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Thanks.... good to know i'm not the only one who would have liked to see it on the HD or others
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Well to be honest, the Panels are more a marketing USP than anything else. While they are convenient, I have no issue or propensity against going into each thing separately as per normal.
But if you could get it working fully, it would be great. SonyEricsson wouldn't be too happy about it though I think !
For me, this is an extremely exieting project, because I only hoped/feared that there'll be some developers, bringing some great programs for the panels and nobody else could use them. Like spb-panel, I like it really a lot from what I've seen in videos. So, than I could have the best of both worlds, on a biiig screen^^ please, work on, I'm sure I'm not the only one who's very, very interestet in this project!!! And I want to congratulate you already for the work you've done until now!! Its amazing!!! Go on, finish it I wish you good, good luck and if you need any help I could do, I give you my word that I'll try to do my best!! Many greez, cad^^
Hi all
Video showing it running on a Touch Hd.. for the conspiracy theorists.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jo0ZhxOi8s
I don't get the video. Could you explain what's going on ?
I didn't have the audio on, if there was any, but it's just showing that it's possible. That's the first time I've seen it in action, and I'll admit it may be a little slow, but it looks better than the TouchFlo3D... I'd definitely install it.
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I didn't have the audio on, if there was any, but it's just showing that it's possible. That's the first time I've seen it in action, and I'll admit it may be a little slow, but it looks better than the TouchFlo3D... I'd definitely install it.
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No-one wants to hear me talk...
So. i just quicky launched it up.. and ran through..
All buttons work.. i was trying to juggle a TYTN II... look at the phone and tytn.. and press buttons... so .. i may not have pressed buttons properly..
But.. trust me.. they all work... and as quick/quicker than on the Sony X1.def not slower.
harvsingh said:
No-one wants to hear me talk...
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lol, nothing personal just my wife's asleep next to me, unwell.
But good news on the speed. I do hope you're able to make an easy to use cab file of it. No hurry as far as I'm concerned though. Not getting an HD yet. But definitely the first thing I'll download for it!
Now this is a new issue...Once started, on portrait mode, the slingplayer screen takes half the screnn of the HD.Also it is impossible to change channels as the buttons seem pressed there.
On Landscape mode the screen is filled up almost to the 90% capacity of the HD , thus making it very very comfortable to watch.
Does anyone have any idea how to fix the portrait mode???
Thanks
slingplayer impossible to use (touchscreen version)
has anyone managed to get slingplayer mobile working well on Touch HD? The buttons are impossible to use for the remote very small and not mapped correctly, also the full screen is not the whole screen only part of it.. anyone got any tips? I searched but noone seems to have solved this?
Hope it's sorted soon, asked the wife for a Slingbox for xmas :/
Davebravey said:
Hope it's sorted soon, asked the wife for a Slingbox for xmas :/
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its just about usable although slow to use the menus for remote control functions but the streaming and PQ are excellent so its worth having!
I have it working.
I cannot however hand out the version I am using.
So, please wait. a version that does work perfectly with HD is on its way. I can also state SlingMobile version coming out soon works perfectly on Omnia and on the X1.
Sorry I can't hand this out, and please do not ask, as refusal may offend.
Ah... wonderful news indeed as this is one of my favorite apps.
awesome, figured out I can get the current version usable with Sky plus by using the favourites buttons to set the most common remote control functions but it would be good to have a version that works with WVGA properly!! Any idea on timelines for the newer version?
Any News?
Supporters Needed to help make this possible http://sling.uservoice.com/pages/18...s/169625-more-finger-friendly-on-wm?ref=title
There are a few more there to relating to WM and HD.
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Moved to Themes, Applications and Software forum
"GemRB (Game engine made with preRendered Background) is a portable open-source implementation of Bioware's Infinity Engine which was written to support pseudo-3D role playing games based on the Dungeons & Dragons ruleset. It should run on GNU/Linux, Microsoft Windows, OS X and possibly other UNIX derivatives. It is licensed under the GPL. " (http://linux.prinas.si/gemrb/doku.php)
Who can port this wondeful program to WM? I will tester )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icyAgs3dFqU
Baldur's Gate on Nokia N800
Omfg, Planescape: Torment would be the best!!
neophyte.vii said:
Omfg, Planescape: Torment would be the best!!
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yes. I play it on linux on pc now, it runs stable and fast...
wow! please some one make this work! i'll be a tester too! i love baldurs gate and if i can play it on my hermes it will be amazing!
hey! developers! nobody loves BG&PST? (
Great ideas Guys hope they post this soon while am waiting al just play Doom 1,2, TNT etc. and Dukenuken 3D on my WM cant wait for this lol
Seems to me it would be an easy job, as all you would need to do is have the proper dependencies. http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?showtopic=16785
This forum has a post about it, with a link to installation instructions. I don't have time to hassle with it now, but looks like you need a few libs installed and thats it. If anyone wants to try gof or it! Seems like all we would need is a CAB to install dependencies, and that youtube vid was a year ago, I am sure there is a way now.
Baldur's Gate would be the best and looks like the entire focus of the development. Problem would be that it would be VGA only. I don't see this working on a qvga screen. The original game was 480x640 with BG2 being able to play at VGA or higher.
well, i searched for a version of gemrb for ppc but found nothing on google... if any of the developers could create one it would be great! i really want to play baldurs gate on my hermes!
Oh man this would be awesome on my Touch HD. Good find! Now hopefully the gurus around here will take a look and get it working.
The last (and only) time I tried to port a python game to Windows Mobile, I was stuck at getting pygame to run. This seems to have less dependencies so might be easier.
I love the 2D series of RPGs but GemRB is nowhere near complete yet.
Well am not a programming guru but you Guys keep saying that its easy to port thats Good but can you tell us if your porting right now and we should wait for it to get completed or no body started yet I really wish I can help but again am not a programer al leave this to the pros
wow, this would be AWESOME if someone could get it to work!
If someone wants to try porting, here is a post with links to WinCE versions of the required libraries. I haven't tried any of them and the link is in Russian.
... made by the original poster, no less
because i am not a programer, if you csn tell me what to do, i am will to try my self... and where to find the games?
The games? You have to buy and prepare them for GemRB yourself. There was some discussion of fanmade games for GemRB but it is a lot of work.
Porting such a program is not a trivial task and is impossible for a non programmer.
yes, i am sorry, i figure it out about the games after that post... it's good then i have all the series of bg and IWD in my home... so, if i can not do anything because i am not a programer, as i said before i am willing to beta test so please, anyone can make it happend?
anyone?
I want this to happen! There's gotta be somone out there who can do it!
This would...
This would change my life! (well my free time)
FOR EVER! (for at least 2 weeks until I complete it again.)
I have such warm fuzzy memories of this game. Imoen the theif girl who I am sure I managed to pull.....
Hours and hours of clicking frenzy.
Never Winter nights 2 just never grabbed me in the same way that these old games did.
I really hope that this can be done. I am unable to sit in front of my PC and replay this as I have so many things I wan to play and look at. Having this on mobile wouyld be perfect!!
Hey guys.
I just bought Azgard Defence which is an awesome Tower Defense game but unfortunately it's not supporting WVGA resolution. Part of the screen just stays black. Is there a way to solve this issue? It would be really nice, if the whole screen was used.
Thanks,
zenabi
Nothing at all that I can do about this? Doesn't this bother anyone else using this game?
greetz
zenabi
if there isn't a WVGA version of the game, then not much you can do. At best, you can dig into the settings files and see if you can locate the resolution parameters and change them to 480x800 though that will only stretch the screen.
Okay, I thought someone maybe had a fix for that. I think just stretching the screen wouldn't make the game look any better Thanks anyways.
You could try WVGAfix3. Not sure whether it works on WM6.5, it did on WM6.1.
I've found another thread with a direct link to the file for download.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506634
Let me know if it works. Azguard defence is way too cool on PC, would be great if it works on ppc too.
wvgafix (i believe the new version now supports wm6.5) wouldnt solve the OPs problem as he/she wants to get rid of the black portion.
ASK768 said:
wvgafix (i believe the new version now supports wm6.5) wouldnt solve the OPs problem as he/she wants to get rid of the black portion.
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search for WVGAFIX4 it works on my 6.5
it works , but not works for this game.
Hey, I like to use multitouch to get more intuitive input on the touchscreen like to emulate a virtual ThumbStick and some buttons working on the same time.
It's easy to get multitouch working using the WindowsMessages HTC_Zooming, HTC_End_.... But now, the fingers must be set on the screen nearly at the same time or it won't work. That's fine to implement some rotation or zooming cap but it's not enough for a game...
Does anyone know how to get multitouch, like the HTCAlbum does support?
An interesting fact is that the HTCAlbum app is in the blacklist of the Pinch cap in the registry and to get the PinchToZoom-Messages you must be registered in the whitelist...
Thanks
If you send me one HD2 for testing, I'll find it out hehe
HTCAfe.dll
Hey guys
I'm doing some research in the dependencies of the htc apps on my hd2 to get real multitouch. Now I need to analyze htcafe.dll but I can't copy it from my device 'cause it's cooked in the rom.
How do I get that lib on my pc or could anyone send me a copy?
Thanks
Sure, here you go!
Fast?
EpiphanyNL said:
Sure, here you go!
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thanks for that quick help!
You can usually copy out rom modules with either Cotulla's romextractor.exe or dotfred's task manager (the Depends tool-extract rom library).
DirectShow?
Hey guys
I'm sorry for the long dead time. It's really tricky 'cause I've no idea of directdraw/show on winmo? I figured out that you have to create a htcscene out of htcafe.dll and there you probably get the real multitouch-events.
Could some one send me a good tut for directdraw/show?
cheers
Got it!!!!
I got it working now!!! After spending hours, I found out how the HTCAlbum does it and I think it's the best way to do it without rewriting the whole driver and that stuff....
If anyone is interested in how to do it, i will write a sdk for .net and maybe a tut for native coding... (So if you're writeing a game... I can't wait to see multitouch ingames!!!)
For the moment I'm done, but I will soon post a sample game (some stuff like AirHockey or Pong)... (if I find time....)
Cheers
Some sample would be nice =)
Is it really something different from "HTC_Zoom_Begin" etc?
As for me, I prefer native code sample, but .net sample is ok as well.
How is this different from the multitouch already enabled on many hd2 apps? For example, fpsece, the playstation emulator has had multitouch for a long time, at least in the donators version. Is this a better implementation of multitouch?
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zarathustrax said:
How is this different from the multitouch already enabled on many hd2 apps? For example, fpsece, the playstation emulator has had multitouch for a long time, at least in the donators version. Is this a better implementation of multitouch?
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Firsteful, there are now three approaches to get multitouch working (as far as I know). The first is the simplest, I think the multiouch skins for morphgear uses this trick. If the second finger is pressed, you get (I don't know exactly how, cause it was never an option for me...) the point in the middle, and you asign two buttons to this point.Well, It's fake multitouch, but it works.
The second option is to write the PenTrac.dll and activate MultipointDemo (or what so ever) key in the registry and send some window messages (they often abuse the standard mouseevents...)...
The last option is to use HTC_Zooming-messages and so on (in my opinion the best, cause this function is already there, so no overheat is made...). And this is what I do. But in all samples I got before (like I described in the first post of this thread...) , you needed to press both fingers at the same time. I figured out, how to avoid this problem. And that's the difference...
And in the end, I just wanted to make a really easy-to-use sdk. So that even beginners are able to get multitouch working.... I found it quite hard to start with all the p/invoke stuff or change from c# to native code. I hope I can help you with the sdk.
Here's the thread of my sdk. Feel free to leave feedback.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906068
Chabun