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SUPER video encoder?

I read many threads in the forum regarding video on the HD and after hours spent trailing through a post which is now locked I settled on SUPER encoding to flash FLV files... only problem is if I feed it a 1.4gb H264 file (which the HD cant play) it ends up at 2.6Gb I still run the stock SD card 8Gb.
Am I missing a setting? I really wanna sort the video out on my HD! but would like the movies to stay similar size to the original rip....

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
works good

pureheart said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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Yep treid that one too... the files always end up waaaaay bigger than the orginal... I tried a 4Gb BRrip with that and it came out almost the size of the flash card....

Then you selected the wrong bitrate.
Assuming your movie is 90 minutes long, then using the "HD" setting bitrate of 750kbit/s your movie will be (750*60*90)/8/1024 = 494 MB.
What you are stating is not possible, unless your movie is 10 hours long or you manually entered an insanely high bitrate, such as 7500kbit/s, which is completely useless and which the Touch HD can not handle anyway.
The tool is coded for simplicity. If you don't understand what anything does, then you just add the files, select the output dir and press "start". Experimenting around by setting random options which you do not fully understand obviously will result in spectacular failure most of the time. So I recommend you to try it again. If it doesn't work, then let me know and I will fix it.
All this said, if you rather not use my GUI, then you can get an acceptable result with SUPER by using iPhone profile. The quality will be worse, seeking might be broken and it might slow down sometimes, but other than that, it should work.

I used a Blue Ray rip.... 4.5Gig..... it ended up at almost 6Gig....
I used the HD GUI you made because it was so easy.... just remoting into my server to see how the next one I'm trying is getting on.....

Have you tried using WinFF ~ http://winff.org/html/
I used to use SUPER but changed to WinFF because:-
1. It is quicker.
2. File sizes are smaller.
3. It is very easy to use.
4. It supports a number of devices including Mobile Phones, iPod etc.

Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?

Geeba said:
Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?
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What settings on WinFF did you use to encode the video?

Ahhh... not got round to using that one yet... I was using the HD GUI made by projection, 4.5gb Blue ray rip source, 800x480 output.

Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...

Geeba said:
Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...
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If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player

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If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player
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I had no idea there was one? Is it installed from the factory? I cant seem to find it?

atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...

another option to watch Movies "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)"
You can install "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)" and play those .avi movies (DivX, Xvid, etc) without converting. You can download here: http://labs.divx.com/MobileCommunity
It works fine for me... I'm using 8Gb microSD...

crashDebug said:
atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...
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Where do I find the HTC player?
I've just tried DivX player... its not really as good as Core on mine for some reason... ?

Would really appreciate a pointer on GPU accelerated player
I've treid M$ media player... wont play it... core player not enough grunt and the HTC player people speak of... I cant find? searched all of my HD programs..

Dude, just skim along the TF3D menu to Photos and Videos.
If your video's in the default album it will appear as a thumbnail here if it isn't just use the Album button to browse to it.
Basically the HTC player they're on about i launched when you click on a thumbnail in the TF3D Photo's and Video's screen (or browse to an album location).
Yup - it was there all the time

Thanks mate... I understand now...
I guess MP4 isnt supported.... my movies arent there...

Media Playback

I had all but given up hope on this topic, but I guess I'll ask.
The Samsung Galaxy S will play Divx/Xvid/MKV natively without a conversion. This is probably one of the best features I have ever heard, as I have hoped for it to be in some sort of mobile device I already owned, such as a phone, psp, or some other multi-purpose device, instead of having to buy a standalone media player which tends to play many formats.
All videos I watch are encoded in these formats (well mkv encoded in x264, with mkv container). Is there, or will there ever be a way to play these on Android 2.1 or 2.2 for other models? I have an evo, and would be EC-FREAKING-STATIC if I could just drag and drop videos to watch on it. Especially with the hdmi out!! I love the evo, I really think it is great. This one feature is the icing on the cake for me.
If it cannot be done, can somebody just give me a brief description as to why? The way I see it, when you need to play these files on a pc, you just install a video codec to decode it. Isn't there some way it can be added?
Thanks to anyone who takes the time to answer this.
P.S.- For anyone who thinks conversion isn't a big deal, I agree, it really isn't. The thing is, a lot of the time I find out I need to be somewhere, have to leave right away, and don't have anything converted to watch. I can't tell you how many times I wish I had this feature!

atm there are not many options, at least as far as i know...
stock player (good baseline h264 playback)
rockplayer (good divx/xvid playback)
yxplayer (decent main/high h264 playback)
for everything else, i simply have "stream" folder on my PC, drop all other vids there, and play them using OrbLive while on the go.

Damn I have been living in the dark. Thanks!

just finished playing with rockplayer, and its pretty darn good
im actually waiting for something bad to happen, and then i
remember... I'm not using a windows mobile phone anymore.

gabemeyers said:
just finished playing with rockplayer, and its pretty darn good
im actually waiting for something bad to happen, and then i
remember... I'm not using a windows mobile phone anymore.
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lol, see now that's funny!

Wuzhenhua player maybe? I havent tried it out on the evo yet but it worked solidly on my other device.

New to Android - Why can't I play MPG videos?

So I love the EVO, and so far I love Android, except I can't seem to figure out how to play videos on it. Sure I can view Youtube, youporn etc , but I can't seem to find a player that will play simple MPEGs. I have downloaded and tried at least 5 different video/media players from the Market, and none of them will play MPEGs correctly. Some of them will give me sound, but none will give me video. I have tried a couple of different video files that I know work on my desktop.
Am I doing something wrong? I am coming from Windows Mobile with Windows Media Player that played just about anything I threw at it. I can't imagine such a wonderful piece of hardware coupled with what seems to be an awesome OS can't do MPG/AVI.
Note: I am currently rooted+nand+bugless beast 0.3 Although I was having this trouble before I had the custom rom or NAND unlocked.

sterlinron said:
So I love the EVO, and so far I love Android, except I can't seem to figure out how to play videos on it. Sure I can view Youtube, youporn etc , but I can't seem to find a player that will play simple MPEGs. I have downloaded and tried at least 5 different video/media players from the Market, and none of them will play MPEGs correctly. Some of them will give me sound, but none will give me video. I have tried a couple of different video files that I know work on my desktop.
Am I doing something wrong? I am coming from Windows Mobile with Windows Media Player that played just about anything I threw at it. I can't imagine such a wonderful piece of hardware coupled with what seems to be an awesome OS can't do MPG/AVI.
Note: I am currently rooted+nand+bugless beast 0.3 Although I was having this trouble before I had the custom rom or NAND unlocked.
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Curious, have you tried Meridian? I don't really play a lot of videos on my phone, but Meridian has come through on everything so far for me. YMMV

Rock player is the best video player I have ever used on Android. I can play all my divx format movies without conversion and always get 25-30 fps.
The player is in private beta now and should be released soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698451

KCarpenter - yes, I downloaded Meridian last night. Just tried it again, and still no luck. Thanks for the reply.
Danknee - Thanks!

Considering that the Evo has hardware-accelerated H.264 decoding, why bother playing other formats that will destroy your CPU and battery?
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Considering that the Evo has hardware-accelerated H.264 decoding, why bother playing other formats that will destroy your CPU and battery?
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It's just that I received an e-mail MPG of my nephew riding his bike without training wheels and would like to see it that's all. Not sure what H.264 decoding is or if it has my nephew riding his bike without training wheels or not. I should go search for that thanks.
I just figure I should be able to view most any file attachment that comes into me these days.

H.264 is the video encoder for MP4's. Basically, if you used a program to convert your videos to MP4 videos, you would be able to play them without a problem. The phone has hardware acceleration for H.264, so it doesn't use as much processor/battery to play vs. other formats that have to be software decoded. Handbrake works good for me, though I can't remember what file types you can put into it.

sterlinron said:
It's just that I received an e-mail MPG of my nephew riding his bike without training wheels and would like to see it that's all. Not sure what H.264 decoding is or if it has my nephew riding his bike without training wheels or not. I should go search for that thanks.
I just figure I should be able to view most any file attachment that comes into me these days.
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The reason why you cannot play those mpg files is simple. Android doesn't support them out of the box. You need to turn to third-party video players which can do it.
Rock Demo Player is one (only one?) such video player.

You can try to use the third-party video player, I read an article is about the top 5 video player apps in Android Market. Maybe it is helpful to you.

Brucew0617 said:
You can try to use the third-party video player, I read an article is about the top 5 video player apps in Android Market. Maybe it is helpful to you.
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This thread is over a year old. I think the OP figured it out.

Thanks for your remind, I hope it can also be useful to other guys.

I use MX Player. I've only had a problem with AVI files that encode the audio with AAC.
Sent from my carrier pigeon.

Mobo player so far for me has played anything I asked it to.
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MakeMeFibonacci said:
I use MX Player. I've only had a problem with AVI files that encode the audio with AAC.
Sent from my carrier pigeon.
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I used Moboplayer most of time, it seems that MX Player also have so much supporter. Maybe I should try it later.

[Q] Converting Video for WP7

Hi all,
just wondering what people are using to convert .avi/.mkv/etc to mp4/wmv/etc so Zune/Wp7 can use them?
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me, so anyone got any other good ones?
Only confirmed ones please, i've used dozens of Conversion apps that say they'd do the job but in reality they don't, so only post if you've used one for WP7/Zune.

Just convert your Video to MP4 or WMV with WVGA resolution.

Audio said:
Hi all,
just wondering what people are using to convert .avi/.mkv/etc to mp4/wmv/etc so Zune/Wp7 can use them?
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me, so anyone got any other good ones?
Only confirmed ones please, i've used dozens of Conversion apps that say they'd do the job but in reality they don't, so only post if you've used one for WP7/Zune.
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I think this application should solve your problem....you can adjust everything....
http://www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/
It was great,I use it to convert videos for my android and Iphone...and it is very flexible.You can adjust the bit rate,size...almost everything...and it is free...

That's what i'm using at them minute sylau as i said in my post
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ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me...
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Do you know of a good one which will let me just convert to mp4 WVGA Paul?
*EDIT* Just found This Thread which Recommends a GUI for MENCoder called "SUPER". My dealings with MENCoder have been great in the past so i'll give it a go and let others know what it's like.

FWIW the Microsoft way is to use Expression encoder for WMV. It's free, it's nice, and it does a good job encoding, so if you want WMV you should use that one.

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Just convert your Video to MP4 or WMV with WVGA resolution.
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My Zune does not even want to read WMV files so I can not upload. I have multiple copies of DVD's/Blu-Ray's with digital copie of movie for portable devices.
I can copy those movies to my PC and watch them, I can watch them on HD2 but zune doesn ot see them so I can not copy them on to phone. They are all in WMV or MP4 format.

MP4 don't work in Zune!
I tested with this videos: http://cid-e9230930f20e0820.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Windows Phone 7 Ads

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Same problem, I have digital copy's of blu-ray's that came with them, they play using WMV but the Zune Software won't see them and won't play them.

Download 'Expression Encoder'. There's an option to encode specifically for Zune.

Portos2008 said:
MP4 don't work in Zune!
I tested with this videos: http://cid-e9230930f20e0820.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Windows Phone 7 Ads
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Funny as phone by default records in mp4

Mabe the audio stream?
I was just playing around with this last night, and the biggest issue was the audio stream. While it plays h264 streams up to the High Profile level 3.0, it did not like an AC3 stream. I had to demux a video that I had in an mkv container, convert the audio to AAC and remux into an mp4 container. Microsoft has a whole detailed table of stream type compatibility with bit rates, profiles, etc. I can't seem to post links, so search for it at the msdn dot microsoft dot com under this title "Supported Media Codecs for Windows Phone". The list on the WP7 consumer site sucks btw.
The AAC has two compatible types, AAC-LC and HE-AACv1 or v2.
I used MeGui to redo the audio, and yamb to mux it.

Thanks dgetz, here is the link to msdn.

Audio said:
Hi all,
just wondering what people are using to convert .avi/.mkv/etc to mp4/wmv/etc so Zune/Wp7 can use them?
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me, so anyone got any other good ones?
Only confirmed ones please, i've used dozens of Conversion apps that say they'd do the job but in reality they don't, so only post if you've used one for WP7/Zune.
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for the time being i have been using "HTC Touch HD Video Converter"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Seems to work very well

anyone try clonedvd mobile. I have used this in the past with the sony psp settings and gotten very good results, just a very small black strip (maybe 1-2mm) across the top and bottom of the screen (on my hd2).

Portos2008 said:
MP4 don't work in Zune!
I tested with this videos: http://cid-e9230930f20e0820.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Windows Phone 7 Ads
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I can confirm that MP4 works on the Focus, using TV shows previously converted for my iPhone 4
I use handbrake on Windows and Mac to convert my videos, using the settings from
http://lifehacker.com/5572037/handbrake-presets-for-your-new-ipad-or-iphone-4
The results have been good, but using the frame(middle) setting shown in that article does bump up the file size a good amount, and as I'm sure a lot of you have heard, storage space isn't so easy to come by on WP7 yet...

Handbrake
I too can vouch for handbrake. All of the videos I have made for my ipod touch with it work just fine on the Focus. Unfortunately, the library I have for the touch is lower resolution, with videos at about 1/2 DVD resolution and at 500kbps encode rate. I end up with about 500 MB for the about 90 min. It is nice because they don't take up a lot of room, but still look decent. When output to a standard definition TV they look fine as well.
When I first put a few of these home videos on the Focus the lower quality was immediately noticeable. To see how I could push the phone, in my reply above I took a full DVD resolution video 720x400 (16x9 non-anamorphic) and corrected the audio stream. That video looks gorgeous on the Focus screen and is great for showing off the phone. It also takes up over 2.5 GB!!!! It is encoded at a rate of about 2100 kbps. As with any video encoding for a mobile device you have to make your own decision about resolution, encoding rate, etc in that constant game of quality versus size.
One thing to note. If there are black bars on your video, then either you have a video that was not encoded in a proportion that matches your screen or it was hard coded with the black bars. The second thing should be rare nowadays (eliminating this wasted information space was the point of an anamorphic DVD). The first is actually very common. IF your media is a studio movie, almost every action film these days comes at 2.35:1 instead of 16:9=1.77:1. Personally I like viewing any of my content in the way it was originally intended to be viewed and don't ever re-proportion anything. At the moment I am not sure if the Focus/WP7 'stretches' videos. I know on my ipod touch this was an option you could toggle by double tapping the video during playback...
Maybe I will play around with a few options tonight and report back.

have a zunehd and remember seeing this thread on abi
anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58183
it converts the audio of any avi/mkv and keeps the video the same, so converting only takes a few mins, and zune software recognizes it..for the zunehd anyways, maybe someone can try w/ wp7

Since I couldn't find right settings for MediaCoder (best video converter ever).
I was using Prism Video Converter for my Omnia7.
About settings for prism:
For .wmv use as video compresor WMV9 and for sound WMAV9, i am not changing the resolution as it is not bothering me at all. All files (mostly avi or mkv) played smooth after conversion.
If anybody have good settings for MediaCoder I will be much appreciated for sharing.
Thx

Okay, so MP4forHD works. The quality still isn't stunning, but it'll do for now (i guess.) However, i've encountered an issue with contrast. All my blacks appear as dark grays, which drives me nuts

"youtube like" video player for offline viewing

hi,
well... i'm the strange one, but while everyone is complaining about not able to get real full screen in some cases when you play a video, i'm on the other side, i'm looking for a video player where i could watch videos like how youtube looks like in tablet mode, when you can see other thumbnails next to your video.
before call me crazy, let me explain :cyclops: i love my nexus, i've bought it mainly for its screen, and it is great - but sadly... only when you have hd feed, (oh i love it in hd, and real full screen is great)
unfortunately i do have a lot of music video from the web, and some are really low res. i did change the audio tracks from lossless sources, but couldn't find the videos in better quality, so when i playback my favorite mv's, most of them look awful on the big screen over larged 200% or sometimes 300% :crying: i can of course playback in real size on full screen so the quality is not too bad, but it looks really weird - the big black screen with a tiny video at the center. on the other hand when i watch them on youtube (without playing in full screen) they look ok more or less, the other thumbnails next to the now playing one fill up the empty space.
i'm not sure if such a player exist, but again, i often think something is impossible, then later i find it.
does anyone know something?

Okay this might not be what exactly you are looking for but I think what you really want is a video player where you can resize the playing window so that if the video you are watching happens to be low quality, you can resize it to a smaller frame. In that case try the app Super Video by GPC on the market. It's basically a floating window video player and when you are playing a video, you can resize the window to any size you want. Hope that's useful.
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thanks for the tip, it is not bad at all, it would be close enough.
sadly it won't play smoothly. i did install the sw decoder pack or whatever was the name and now plays my files, but the audio is a bit async, and the video freezes or get blocks all over the screen, look like when a slow pc tries to play full hd files... also it takes 10 mins to load 23 thumbnails, then when i close the app, and reopen it starts again, navigating amongst the videos also freezes the app, have no idea what it is. i have mx player, it plays 720p movies smoothly, but these low quality mv's should not be a problem for any player
any idea?

Hmm I haven't really tested this app a lot so I'm afraid I can't help you. I used it to play some videos which I took with the phone's camera and it played fine. If I have to guess then it probably has problems with certain codices and you might be able to fix the problem by reencoding the videos with a different format, but that might be more trouble than it's worth.
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i reinstalled it with the codecs as well, and now plays well
but something is still not perfect, because when i played one video, and wanted to start the next one, it froze - totally, i had to remove the battery...
anyway, i keep trying, but now i know at least that it's possible, just seen on youtube that galaxy s3 have this feature by default
thanks again