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I know you guys might be tired of these threads but I thought I might as well post this.
My desire is fairly new(Less than a week) and so far its been good apart from(What I though) battery life. i've been trying to improve it and I think I might have "some" progress.
Currently I'm running DeFrost 4.9 with HAVS @ 1137(4.9a) kernel with the very latest radio, I also use only 2G networks(No 3G here). I got two Gmail accounts but only one has sync(The other one is merely for Google checkout CC purchases), I got one Facebook account set to sync every hour as well as LP Facebook widget also set to sync every hour. I also got FancyWidget syncing weather every 3 hours. Apart from these I got Nimbuzz running 24/7 in background. The battery is calibrated and yesterday I did a complete discharge/recharge.
Now I plugged it off the charger 2 hours ago, it was at 100 according to spare parts. The brightness is at 2%. I did some lite browsing, browsed a bit with Tapatalk Pro and 40 minutes ago went to a market nearby. During my trip to market I had Google Navigation turned on navigating me(During both, the trip to the market and return). Now while making this post the battery is at 81%. Does it sound right?
Dragooon123 said:
I know you guys might be tired of these threads but I thought I might as well post this.
My desire is fairly new(Less than a week) and so far its been good apart from(What I though) battery life. i've been trying to improve it and I think I might have "some" progress.
Currently I'm running DeFrost 4.9 with HAVS @ 1137(4.9a) kernel with the very latest radio, I also use only 2G networks(No 3G here). I got two Gmail accounts but only one has sync(The other one is merely for Google checkout CC purchases), I got one Facebook account set to sync every hour as well as LP Facebook widget also set to sync every hour. I also got FancyWidget syncing weather every 3 hours. Apart from these I got Nimbuzz running 24/7 in background. The battery is calibrated and yesterday I did a complete discharge/recharge.
Now I plugged it off the charger 2 hours ago, it was at 100 according to spare parts. The brightness is at 2%. I did some lite browsing, browsed a bit with Tapatalk Pro and 40 minutes ago went to a market nearby. During my trip to market I had Google Navigation turned on navigating me(During both, the trip to the market and return). Now while making this post the battery is at 81%. Does it sound right?
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How much time the display was on? How much time was the GPS on?
Be careful, don't be happy before time. I did the recalibration too, and found that my phone would turn itself off at ~20% remaining battery.
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How much time the display was on? How much time was the GPS on?
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During the navigation, about 5 minutes for display, 40 minutes GPS during which I went into a building for 10 minutes and it probably lost signal then.
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OK, this ain't good. I slept at around 2 AM with 29% battery life. In the morning(10:30 AM) it was dead(0% battery).
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OK, this ain't good. I slept at around 2 AM with 29% battery life. In the morning(10:30 AM) it was dead(0% battery).
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Sound about right. 8.5 hours with your facebook and other syncs. I don't see any problems at all. Mine does this too.
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OK, this ain't good. I slept at around 2 AM with 29% battery life. In the morning(10:30 AM) it was dead(0% battery).
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First, in the night put the phone in airplane mode (I dont think u need to check ur facebook )
Second, check if u have useless programs that are using cpu in background, if is this the case UNINSTALL that program and CONTACT the developer. We dont need to kill those kinds of app, we just have to UNINSTALL if an app doesn't work properly, untill the developer will fix it. If all people will do like me, the market will full of great apps
I don't think I have any useless stuff running in the background. All I got are 2 widgets(Facebook and Twitter) syncing every 1 hour and 3 hours respectively, one Fancy Widget fetching weather and Gmail push for one account. Is their a way I can check all the services running in the BG?
EDIT : Forgot to mention Nimbuzz running 24/7.
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Be careful, don't be happy before time. I did the recalibration too, and found that my phone would turn itself off at ~20% remaining battery.
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Agree... before I used to see 1% but after "calibration" now it shuts down itself at 8~9%
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Dragooon123 said:
OK, this ain't good. I slept at around 2 AM with 29% battery life. In the morning(10:30 AM) it was dead(0% battery).
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I won't rehash all of what has been heavily discussed by now in much greater depth, like in the FroYo Battery Usage thread. But auto sync with such social applications and you set yourself up for low battery runtime to begin with. Especially with a constant polling IM and/or battery widget running too. Don't expect much.
Anyway, I don't use them but weather, stocks, 5 mail accounts and news is set to auto-sync every 15 minutes and WiFi is always running if available. Last discharge as soon as I connected charger ended at:
http://bit.ly/c6R59G
http://bit.ly/bmM9oN
http://bit.ly/cMlnun
http://bit.ly/akPvr7
I slept twice for 7-8 hours each on that charge and it includes all of my daily usage including listening to 127 minutes of MP3 via headphones with the screen off.
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Hmm Wi-Fi + Nimbuzz really screws up the battery . Last night I turned off the Wi-Fi and slept for 8 hours. I had 46% battery before and in the morning I had 40%. I also have disabled Auto-sync for Twitter/Facebook widget and Facebook app. Now the only running services I got are Gmail push, FancyWidget weather and Nimbuzz.
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I won't rehash all of what has been heavily discussed by now in much greater depth, like in the FroYo Battery Usage thread. But auto sync with such social applications and you set yourself up for low battery runtime to begin with. Especially with a constant polling IM and/or battery widget running too. Don't expect much.
Anyway, I don't use them but weather, stocks, 5 mail accounts and news is set to auto-sync every 15 minutes and WiFi is always running if available. Last discharge as soon as I connected charger ended at:
http://bit.ly/c6R59G
http://bit.ly/bmM9oN
http://bit.ly/cMlnun
http://bit.ly/akPvr7
I slept twice for 7-8 hours each on that charge and it includes all of my daily usage including listening to 127 minutes of MP3 via headphones with the screen off.
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How did you manage to get such good battery life? Your phone lasted for over a 32 hours period which included 6 hours of display. And that too with stocks and News syncing every 15 minutes. Does Nimbuzz really screw you that much?
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I won't rehash all of what has been heavily discussed by now in much greater depth, like in the FroYo Battery Usage thread. But auto sync with such social applications and you set yourself up for low battery runtime to begin with. Especially with a constant polling IM and/or battery widget running too. Don't expect much.
Anyway, I don't use them but weather, stocks, 5 mail accounts and news is set to auto-sync every 15 minutes and WiFi is always running if available. Last discharge as soon as I connected charger ended at:
http://bit.ly/c6R59G
http://bit.ly/bmM9oN
http://bit.ly/cMlnun
http://bit.ly/akPvr7
I slept twice for 7-8 hours each on that charge and it includes all of my daily usage including listening to 127 minutes of MP3 via headphones with the screen off.
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Well now datz some good battery. Which ROM are you using? Which Radio are you using?
I don't have any account/social networking syncing. Don't use wifi more than 20 mins a day. Brightness 20%. NO GPS. No Bluetooth. No stupid application sucking battery's power. If my screen is off I lose about 3-4% for a period of 5 hours, so no app sucking the battery in the sleep mode.
If i use EDGE when the battery is Full for about an hour I get battery drain of 20%
Would love to know more details on which ROM, Radio and your settings.
OK. There's not much I can say except what other guys who know better than me said here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743172
It's all usage/config/settings dependent. There's no secret sauce. Some setups and usages last shorter than others, yet further, some drastically shorter.
Firstly, I don't change something working well nor move from a setup until I've worked with it the best I could. The ROM I use daily is HTC 2.2 with root. The radio is some old one that worked perfect for me: 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20. I can give you some details so you can characterize the battery performance on mine better.
- H.264 sub 2.5Mbps 800*480 video playback at 18% brightness lasts 5.5-6.5h with about 15% remaining. This has been repeated more than 50 times since March.
- My average runtime used to be 13-18h since March but I knew something was wrong and drawing more juice than necessary. I kept looking (mainly at the logs). It took me months to figure out it was a few things including my build.prop WiFi/cell settings, A2SD+, my GMail install, battery widgets, eBuddy, Titanium Backup, Chrome2Phone, Pure Calendar/Grid widgets and my 3G baseband reception. Some app versions were buggy and constantly polling and returning random errors in the background. I had to eliminate them one by one.
I rectified such problems entirely and removed all the unnecessary apps installed which I rarely used. I had to revert back to FroYos A2SD with the install location mod. That took me to todays battery runtime which I'm very happy with. Chrome2Phone for instance could stay installed and be disconnected when not in use to avoid the large background drain it caused.
- I run personalized colour calibration with lowered overall luminance but more red and green with less blue sub-pixel luminance. Very near D6500 whites. I also keep most apps and my homescreens dark when and where possible. I disable button LEDs through a widget when not required (much).
- 24-39h is the norm for me in typical usage. Among much else that always includes a few short calls, some YouTube, some StreetView, some TapeMachine (audio record), some Scan2PDF, some Aldiko, some Chrome2Phone and Fox2Phone, some Tapatalk browsing, some XDA app browsing, some Quick App Clean Cache, some SpringPad, some Adobe PDF, max 15mins of MP3 playback, heavy net and NewsRoom browsing, 150-250 emails and messages and constant sync with what I listed priorly. Always 2G though, and whenever I reach areas I know have bad or no reception (causing high drain) that I'll be staying at for more than 10mins, I disable cell (frequently). I've nurtured the habit of putting the phone in standby after every use too.
- 6-9.5h display on aggregate is the norm for me. I use lowest brightness possible or 18% typically. 50% in very bright, direct summer sunlight. Just now the battery ran out after 26 hours with 9.2h display on, 13.5h cell on and 22h WiFi on.
- I have apps I consider junk removed: Facebook, Footprints, etc. The lot. So no sync or auto running for them or their widgets in the background. I also removed the base GMail because logs showed me it carried on running sync all the time even when not set to. I forced the latest GMail APK in and it has no such problems. I removed all battery widgets installed except one since they drain heavily.
- Heavy usage like GPS, lengthy calls, video recording and playback cuts the runtime down drastically which should be conspicuous. I can drain the battery fully in 5h with everything max and running.
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If my screen is off I lose about 3-4% for a period of 5 hours, so no app sucking the battery in the sleep mode.[...]
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In contrast, I lose 1-2% over 8-10hours in standby, maximum, with WiFi on. Usually 1%.
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Thats some damn battery life you have there. You are on a Sense ROM? Do you actually use Sense? If so you're either exaggerating or I'm a total fool(I'd prefer the latter).
I've been trying to fine tune the battery, currently I'm using DeFroST 4.9 with SVS 998Mhz @ 1275mv kernel with 17_2 radio. Re-calibrated the battery yesterday and compiled a custom wi-fi module containing fixes for sleep disconnection today morning.
I left it at night around 3 AM with 99% battery, turned off the Wi-Fi/EDGE but kept mobile on. In the morning(Around 9:30AM) I was at around 91%. Gave it a quick charge to 100 till around 11:15 AM. Disconnected it and from 11:20 to about 11:40/45 AM I had quite a heavy chat session over Nimbuzz with my friend. My battery went from 100 to 94% in that time. After that I pretty much left it, picked it up to check a mail once or twice and sent a few messages over Nimbuzz. It is 1:40AM now and I'm down to 89%. All of this was over Wi-Fi, GPS off, Bluetooth off, no tethering no nothing. I got no Facebook/Twitter auto-sync. Only FancyWidget(every 3 hours) and Gmail Push. Brightness is at 2%(Although even then it is a bit bright, maybe it is just me).
I am using Extended control widget to see the power percentage.
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OK. There's not much I can say except what other guys who know better than me said here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743172
It's all usage/config/settings dependent. There's no secret sauce. Some setups and usages last shorter than others, yet further, some drastically shorter.
Firstly, I don't change something working well nor move from a setup until I've worked with it the best I could. The ROM I use daily is HTC 2.2 with root. The radio is some old one that worked perfect for me: 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20. I can give you some details so you can characterize the battery performance on mine better.
- H.264 sub 2.5Mbps 800*480 video playback at 18% brightness lasts 5.5-6.5h with about 15% remaining. This has been repeated more than 50 times since March.
- My average runtime used to be 13-18h since March but I knew something was wrong and drawing more juice than necessary. I kept looking (mainly at the logs). It took me months to figure out it was a few things including my build.prop WiFi/cell settings, A2SD+, my GMail install, battery widgets, eBuddy, Titanium Backup, Chrome2Phone, Pure Calendar/Grid widgets and my 3G baseband reception. Some app versions were buggy and constantly polling and returning random errors in the background. I had to eliminate them one by one.
I rectified such problems entirely and removed all the unnecessary apps installed which I rarely used. I had to revert back to FroYos A2SD with the install location mod. That took me to todays battery runtime which I'm very happy with. Chrome2Phone for instance could stay installed and be disconnected when not in use to avoid the large background drain it caused.
- I run personalized colour calibration with lowered overall luminance but more red and green with less blue sub-pixel luminance. Very near D6500 whites. I also keep most apps and my homescreens dark when and where possible. I disable button LEDs through a widget when not required (much).
- 24-39h is the norm for me in typical usage. Among much else that always includes a few short calls, some YouTube, some StreetView, some TapeMachine (audio record), some Scan2PDF, some Aldiko, some Chrome2Phone and Fox2Phone, some Tapatalk browsing, some XDA app browsing, some Quick App Clean Cache, some SpringPad, some Adobe PDF, max 15mins of MP3 playback, heavy net and NewsRoom browsing, 150-250 emails and messages and constant sync with what I listed priorly. Always 2G though, and whenever I reach areas I know have bad or no reception (causing high drain) that I'll be staying at for more than 10mins, I disable cell (frequently). I've nurtured the habit of putting the phone in standby after every use too.
- 6-9.5h display on aggregate is the norm for me. I use lowest brightness possible or 18% typically. 50% in very bright, direct summer sunlight. Just now the battery ran out after 26 hours with 9.2h display on, 13.5h cell on and 22h WiFi on.
- I have apps I consider junk removed: Facebook, Footprints, etc. The lot. So no sync or auto running for them or their widgets in the background. I also removed the base GMail because logs showed me it carried on running sync all the time even when not set to. I forced the latest GMail APK in and it has no such problems. I removed all battery widgets installed except one since they drain heavily.
- Heavy usage like GPS, lengthy calls, video recording and playback cuts the runtime down drastically which should be conspicuous. I can drain the battery fully in 5h with everything max and running.
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Whoa ! Amazing post there. This should keep me occupied for quite some time to figure out what the heck is going on with my battery. The battery life what you are getting is really good and that is what everybody should get provided they figure out what the heck is sucking their battery that bad. Lotsa things and apps you have said drains the battery is on my phone and I haven't even started looking at logs in detail. Itz been only couple of weeks since I have this phone so I'll defn start looking into this issue.
Few questions
1. What issues did you have with your build.prop?
2. What battery widget are your currently using ?
3. You have mentioned A2SD+ also is a battery drain, was it a particular ROM's implementation of A2SD+ or older version of A2SD+ or A2SD+ in general causes battery drain ? Would be great if you could link us to the location mod
OK, It is 7:05 PM now and I am down to 70%. Nimbuzz was on all the time along with Wi-Fi(Although I don't know what happened but it switched to EDGE as if it lost Wi-Fi connectivity, Wi-Fi wasn't disabled, just disconnected). And I pretty much haven't touched it since 1:40 PM. Not as good as I hoped, but still kind of decent.
And my Wi-Fi strength isn't that great either, it is either 1 or 2 bar out of 4.
Well, I haven't done any such kernel modifications intentionally. Never had any need to either. 14.5h since last charge now, cell on 5h, WiFi on 12.5h, display on 2h and 76% remaining (actually, those stats were collected and written an hour back). The Desire display has been verified to consume at least 70% of the total device power when the screen is on. So you can't get more hours with display on if it didn't run as such.
It's HTCs ROM so of course it is using Sense. I can't do without most HTC added goods in Sense. Let alone the Mail, Bookmarks, Calendar, Stocks, Copy/Paste, Lookup, Clock, Gallery and Camera apps and widgets. The widgets I depend on work well only on the HTC ROMs I've tried. The missed Sense goodness combined with the bugs and problems I had on AOSP ROMs were extremely problematic so I moved back. Even my video recording and native playback is much better on this ROM.
To be frank, you've hardly had the phone so you'll learn much more yet. And it comes through search->reading->experimenting first. 1-2 weeks is too little for even figuring out most of the basics, unless you're moving from a similar phone and OS. For one, you'll need to actually read the linked thread to see what many observed and experienced. It took me and many others 6 months to learn things and get to this stage. Every other day I was testing and monitoring. But be aware that you can't, for instance, have the exact same setup and usage as me to have the same resultant battery life.
Had you read the linked thread you'd also be aware by now that bugs were filed for inaccurate % readings by Androids Battery Usage section. However, its time tracking was reliable in my testing.
- On your typical full discharge, how much time and % is listed under Display on?
- And for cell?
- Which A2SD are you using?
- Static wallpaper/color?
- Animation settings?
- Location on?
- Network location errors in logcat?
- Cell network chosen auto or manual?
- Did you mention all the widgets on all homescreens?
- OSMonitor/CurrentWidget values in idle screen on and idle screen off?
I use EC and SwitchPro widgets too but their battery widgets (like you mentioned) are known as ones with high consistent drain. The EC dev also corroborated this in its thread under the Themes section.
The 'idle' drops you get don't make sense to me unless there's fundamental hardware/software activity you haven't properly monitored and logged. Even kernel and I/O usage in the background. You'd be surprised at the difference one buggy underlying feature can make.
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If you're actually asking those questions, here goes. Note, I am at 66% and the time is 8:56PM. And after this I'm gonna nandroid this ROM and try SuperVillainHD just for the kicks. Also, can it be that since the phone is relatively new, the battery is not up to its full potential?
Q1, 2) Battery usage is :
Display: 35% (35m 37s)
Wi-Fi: 20% (9h 44m 22s)
Cell standby : 15% (9h 44m 22s)
Phone idle: 14% (9h 9m 42s)
Android system: 6% (CPU Total: 9m 35s, CPU Foreground: 27s, Data sent: 7.82KB, Date received: 11.38KB)
Nimbuzz: 4% (CPU Total: 6m 46s, CPU Foreground: 2m 54s, Data sent: 298KB, Data received: 851KB)
Android OS: 3% (4m 1s)
Voice calls: 2% (45s)
Q3) I'm using DeFroST ROM with A2SD+
Q4) Yes, I'm using a static wallpaper
Q5) Animations is set to : All animations
Q6) GPS is disabled, if that is what you mean.
Q7) How can I check this and what would it show?
Q8) Didn't touch this, so I'm presuming Auto.
Q9) I'm not sure, so here goes. I got a Twitter widget, Facebook widget, both are set for manual syncing. Got FancyWidget syncing every 3 hours and several harmless icons. I got 3 bars of Extended Control widget and a google search widget
Q10) I don't have those, are they available in market? Do they consume battery?
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1. What issues did you have with your build.prop?
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I'll have to open the file for that to check exactly the changes I made. I didn't really follow anyone, just went off my own understanding and intuition. If I try to access the dir or open the file whilst the phone is not in Recovery, it'll force a reboot so I'll give more details later on this when I'm near a PC.
2. What battery widget are your currently using ?
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Just this: http://bit.ly/cNQUVd
3. You have mentioned A2SD+ also is a battery drain, was it a particular ROM's implementation of A2SD+ or older version of A2SD+ or A2SD+ in general causes battery drain ?
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FroYos A2SD was nice but I needed much more space and was trying A2SD+ with various ROMs as well as manual use on HTC ROMs. Endless problems such as very remarked, consistent sluggishness in basic functioning, total boot and app load slowness, including high, persistent background CPU and IO loads and very poor SD card transfers over USB and WiFi made me sack it. I lost a class 4 16GB Kingston SD card with errors inside 2 months. I transfer 2-4GB in/out daily and many transfers started failing. Widgets bugged out frequently when you needed them most and had to be all re-setup. Video record and playback became dis-able. The phone became useless except as a toy. That's not what I bought it for but as a helpful companion. I eliminated everything in question. It was simply the SD card [over]use compared to internal memory. This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7025105
Would be great if you could link us to the location mod
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I simply typed the command through adb but:
http://www.androidpit.com/en/androi...deandroid.modil/Mod-Install-Location-For-Root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778738
Even though I used this, I still have select applications not on the SD card upon learning that they worked far more consistently and properly with lower power and CPU usage when using internal memory. Trial, observant monitoring, and error.
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i only use wifi, and 3G/4G on all the time, otherwise no other major settings on, no gps, etc. rooted, removed most bloatware and other programs that tend to come on by themsevles, including wifi calling has been deleted. after playing with the phone for maybe 20 min constant, sending about 10 sms, and 2 restarts i was down to 91% from a full charge....
is it really just related to being a small battery?
Its those 2 restarts that are doing it.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
with WiFi and 3G, Tweetdeck updating all day, background sync on, 10-20 sms, an hour or two of browsing, and an hour or so of gaming, I typically get around 12-15 hours of use out of my G2. If I pull it off the charger at 7a, I'm usually around 30-40% by 6p, which is awesome, IMO.
Yes, rebooting uses more power than other things.
Ok. I'm at 70% now and been using the camera and phone wifi scanning the whole time since I was not at home and a couple of calls. Flash on camera used took about 15 pix. So its not too bad I guess.
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91% isnt too bad considering you did 2 restarts. Restarts really drain a few % of battery each.
Well full charge overnight. Pulled at 830. Its 1pm now and I'm at 62% made 20 min of calls. Sent a few sms. Played with google voice app downloaded 3 programs chatted on google talk a bit scanned 3 barcodes took 3 pics played with a few ringtones for 5 min went thru a few emails loaded a couple of pdfs and replied to 2 emails. and was on here for 10 min.
Settings are screen turn off 15 sec. Wifi on. 3G on. Auto screen brightness. No gps no location settings on at all.
Seem pretty on par?
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Well full charge overnight. Pulled at 830. Its 1pm now and I'm at 62% made 20 min of calls. Sent a few sms. Played with google voice app downloaded 3 programs chatted on google talk a bit scanned 3 barcodes took 3 pics played with a few ringtones for 5 min went thru a few emails loaded a couple of pdfs and replied to 2 emails. and was on here for 10 min.
Settings are screen turn off 15 sec. Wifi on. 3G on. Auto screen brightness. No gps no location settings on at all.
Seem pretty on par?
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Yea doesn't seem that bad. Everyone's battery experiences are gonna be different based on their loaded apps, sync times, etc. That doesn't seem terrible though. I'm on CM7 OC'd to 1ghz and I get like 17-18hrs of general use outa mine. More like 15-16 if I use it a lot.
Folks,
My phone seems to be guzzling battery when playing mp3s using the new music 3.0. I think I can get about 6-8 hours of music playing which seems pretty low with nothing else happening, screen mostly off unless I have to pause it, and set cpu running at 245mhz when the screen is off.
Looking at the battery use stats in Gingerbread (I'm currently using oxygen 2.3.3 ROM) it seems that the phone is pretty much constantly awake which I'm guessing isn't a good thing. If I stop playing music then the phone seems to sleep OK.
So is it normal for the phone to remain awake when playing mp3s? If no, is there something that could be causing this or a way to try and stop it. If yes, is there something I could try to get some battery life back?
Try another music player. If it's still happening then I would say that's normal. I get about that time on my phone.
i don,t think Desire can be used both as a phone and Music player , itd bound to die out in 6-8 hours
Guys.
Thanks for the replies.
I was able to use my touchHD as a phone and music player, with about 2x the battery life I get on the desire.
I must admit that I wasn't expecting such a big difference between these two devices.
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I tend to chew through about 10% battery in a regular 90 minute train journey playing music and sending the odd SMS or making a 1-2 minute call. I use poweramp player.
I think that's not bad!
Stringer
That's more like what I'd expect. I was watching things closely yesterday and I got less than 4 hours of mp3 playback with no calls, texts or web (except weather updates every 4 hours and Gmail background checking).
I think I may have found the culprit though. I was running widget locker with the phantom media controls widget. It appears that this may have resulted in 2 copies of the music 3 app running and draining the battery. Have removed both apps and I'll see how things go.
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Yes 4 hours to a dead battery just through music seems excessive.
Hope the above works for you. What is your standby battery drain like? I found android status app useful for keeping an eye on running processes
To find out the battery drain in standby, you can use battery monitor widget:
https://market.android.com/details?id=ccc71.bmw
In standby drain should be about 4-8 mA, not higher.
Things looked a little better yesterday.... fingers crossed.
I checked the current and it's 3 on standby. And at the moment this jumps to 60 when I have music 3.0 playing and the screen off.
Does that sound about right?
Thanks again.
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nitens said:
Things looked a little better yesterday.... fingers crossed.
I checked the current and it's 3 on standby. And at the moment this jumps to 60 when I have music 3.0 playing and the screen off.
Does that sound about right?
Thanks again.
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Like meaple just said, seems to be normal.
ytup desire drains battery very quick
So what kind of battery life are you all getting?
Got to go out and about yesterday so I used my phone pretty moderately.
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not good -,- wait for a better cooked ROM
Good enough!
Completed my first charge-discharge cycle (100% to 1%) on ZL. Standby drain is negligible which is pretty good! Here is the screenshot below (5hrs plus screen on time is good with moderate use = approx 1hr 3G data browsing, 40 min calling, 1hrs music, 45min hd videos, browsing pics, camera use, play store etc.)
All stock rom (not rooted) build 10.1.A.1.350. I haven't had time to update it, will do it tonight.
P.S - Screen brightness set at 30% with adapt to light checked. Stamina mode off.
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Completed my first charge-discharge cycle (100% to 1%) on ZL. Standby drain is negligible which is pretty good! Here is the screenshot below (5hrs plus screen on time is good with moderate use = approx 1hr 3G data browsing, 40 min calling, 1hrs music, 45min hd videos, browsing pics, camera use, play store etc.)
All stock rom (not rooted) build 10.1.A.1.350. I haven't had time to update it, will do it tonight.
P.S - Screen brightness set at 30% with adapt to light checked. Stamina mode off.
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It beats my Galaxy Nexus. I approve!:good:
Update
Hello everyone! Having posted the battery life report about 10 days back, I thought it's about time for an update on the battery life after few charge-discharge cycles. I am consistently getting 4.5 to 5.25 hrs of screen on time with about a day's standby with moderate use (no gaming). I don't know why many people @ XZ forums are complaining about battery life. Below are few screenshots showing the last cycle (100% to 1%) of battery use.
I managed 5hrs &11min screen time with 30+ hrs of standby with stamina & low battery mode on, screen @ 30% brightness with adapt to light checked. It includes:
- 3.5hrs of wi-fi (web browsing via dolphin, google play, app updates, facebook, gmail, email etc.)
- 1 hr of calling (on 3G network)
- 1 hr album viewing (including camera use)
- 30 min music playback (via earphones) with screen off
- 20 min hd video playback
- 10 text messages
I noticed that I get better browsing time with dolphin than the default chrome, and with Wi-Fi use than with 3G data. I could manage only about 2 hrs 40 min of web if using 3G data instead of wifi (with similar usage as above).
Currently on stock sony rom (build 10.1.A.1.434 India), with stock kernel, stock BL (locked), not rooted. I've only disabled a few sony apps & bloatware which I don't use. No battery tweak or mod used other than mentioned above.
Dpk1 said:
Hello everyone! Having posted the battery life report about 10 days back, I thought it's about time for an update on the battery life after few charge-discharge cycles. I am consistently getting 4.5 to 5.25 hrs of screen on time with about a day's standby with moderate use (no gaming). I don't know why many people @ XZ forums are complaining about battery life. Below are few screenshots showing the last cycle (100% to 1%) of battery use.
View attachment 1841235 View attachment 1841236 View attachment 1841243
I managed 5hrs &11min screen time with 30+ hrs of standby with stamina & low battery mode on, screen @ 30% brightness with adapt to light checked. It includes:
- 3.5hrs of wi-fi (web browsing via dolphin, google play, app updates, facebook, gmail, email etc.)
- 1 hr of calling (on 3G network)
- 1 hr album viewing (including camera use)
- 30 min music playback (via earphones) with screen off
- 20 min hd video playback
- 10 text messages
I noticed that I get better browsing time with dolphin than the default chrome, and with Wi-Fi use than with 3G data. I could manage only about 2 hrs 40 min of web if using 3G data instead of wifi (with similar usage as above).
Currently on stock sony rom (build 10.1.A.1.434 India), with stock kernel, stock BL (locked), not rooted. I've only disabled a few sony apps & bloatware which I don't use. No battery tweak or mod used other than mentioned above.
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nice battery
This what I'm getting
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htc fan89 said:
This what I'm getting
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Mediaserver is chewing up too much battery. If you are using a MicroSD card that has been passed among multiple phones, it may be a good time to clean it out and simplify your folder structures. Cards with too much clutter and junk data can cause Mediaserver to run excessively.
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Mediaserver is chewing up too much battery. If you are using a MicroSD card that has been passed among multiple phones, it may be a good time to clean it out and simplify your folder structures. Cards with too much clutter and junk data can cause Mediaserver to run excessively.
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weird It's a brand new memory card I'm using...only has videos and music on it...
You ever get that battery life issue figure out? Was it the external memory card?
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You ever get that battery life issue figure out? Was it the external memory card?
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I ended up doing a factory reset, because my notification led was not working. That solved the media server using too much battery, really strange...anyway it's solved now.
Cool thanks for the heads up.
Hi Guys,
I would like to ask how much on the average does your media server consume in terms of battery life.
Thanks
kinshinar said:
Hi Guys,
I would like to ask how much on the average does your media server consume in terms of battery life.
Thanks
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for me it's between 18% to 21%....
Anyone installed and checked Better Battery Stats? I notice that the biggest kernel wakelock is from msm_hsic_host. I'm seeing around 17%. The N4 forums have several posts about this (unsurprising as same SOC) and it seems to be concerning modem handoff from the qualcomm chip. Not sure if this is caused by heavy network usage from an app I’ve installed or whether it’s just symptomatic of having an external modem to the SOC.
What are other people seeing under kernel wakelocks?
The batt life is quite good speaking from previous note owner. With stock rom Iv managed to get 1day yesterday with stamina on, normal phone calls, lil bit of youtube, google, poweramp and stuffs... Inshort normal usage. And today im trying to get it again, or maybe more.
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The batt life is quite good speaking from previous note owner. With stock rom,Iv managed to get 1day yesterday with stamina on, normal phone calls, lil bit of youtube, google, poweramp and stuffs... Inshort normal usage. And today im trying to get it again, or maybe more.
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Here is mine on first day use it was ok, complete first discharge cycle and I left it unplugged over night woke up still at 100% but battery drains seems faster today.
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Here is mine on first day use it was ok, complete first discharge cycle and I left it unplugged over night woke up still at 100% but battery drains seems faster today.
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True battery goes faster on LTE I hope Sony will improve the battery life on the new update is ridiculous to have a big battery and die so fast
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Hello everyone,
Would like to raise a matter about the battery life.
I have updated tostock 4.2.2 recently, I have noticed recently that the battery life is being awkward the least. The device can hold up to 4 days ideal but when I start using it the battery percentage dives rapidely it can go down in 20% if the screen is on for 10 minutes. Did anyone experience this and know how to go around it? Im really troubled as it wasnt like this in 4.1.2 it could hold up to 5 hours of screen now it can barely keep with 2-3 hours!
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modesty1 said:
Hello everyone,
Would like to raise a matter about the battery life.
I have updated tostock 4.2.2 recently, I have noticed recently that the battery life is being awkward the least. The device can hold up to 4 days ideal but when I start using it the battery percentage dives rapidely it can go down in 20% if the screen is on for 10 minutes. Did anyone experience this and know how to go around it? Im really troubled as it wasnt like this in 4.1.2 it could hold up to 5 hours of screen now it can barely keep with 2-3 hours!
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My charge and battery drain thread is here somewhere...
You can look in settings, battery... let us know what is tops on the list.
Also look at settings, data... let us know what is tops as well.
Note: Most of the time the trouble is with google music player, this years update sux with 4.2.2. If you have 4.1.1 it is no problem.
4.2.2 also does not like media files with odd names and characters. I had to rename all my music files to 2 digit numbers, for the media to stop indexing. Folders don't seem to be the issue, just the files. I get 3% per 12 hours discharge with wifi on while sleeping disconnected from charger, and about 10% per hour under a mix use. Thus able to have 8 hours before charging. I can possibly get a week out of the tablet having sync off, power saver enabled, and Wifi off when disconnected from battery in sleep.
modesty1 said:
Hello everyone,
Would like to raise a matter about the battery life.
I have updated tostock 4.2.2 recently, I have noticed recently that the battery life is being awkward the least. The device can hold up to 4 days ideal but when I start using it the battery percentage dives rapidely it can go down in 20% if the screen is on for 10 minutes. Did anyone experience this and know how to go around it? Im really troubled as it wasnt like this in 4.1.2 it could hold up to 5 hours of screen now it can barely keep with 2-3 hours!
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use power saving mode, and download Advanced task killer. Kill all apps running in the background whenever u are done or not using the tablet. and clear your "Recent applications". that should increase the battery life significantly
Same here on videos
gooberdude said:
My charge and battery drain thread is here somewhere...
You can look in settings, battery... let us know what is tops on the list.
Also look at settings, data... let us know what is tops as well.
Note: Most of the time the trouble is with google music player, this years update sux with 4.2.2. If you have 4.1.1 it is no problem.
4.2.2 also does not like media files with odd names and characters. I had to rename all my music files to 2 digit numbers, for the media to stop indexing. Folders don't seem to be the issue, just the files. I get 3% per 12 hours discharge with wifi on while sleeping disconnected from charger, and about 10% per hour under a mix use. Thus able to have 8 hours before charging. I can possibly get a week out of the tablet having sync off, power saver enabled, and Wifi off when disconnected from battery in sleep.
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Hi guys,
I will search your thread cause I have this huge battery drain problem too.
I'm on 4.2.2 for long now but for 1 or 2 months now, my battery drains very rapidly when I'm watching movies or series ... I can use the samsung player or MX player it's just the same ...
When I'm 100%, i loose more than 10 % in 15 minutes of watching ... in fact my train travel in the morning is 30 minutes, and If i'm watching a movie, during the trip I loose nearly 30 % !!!
The thing is when I'm playing games or do something else, there is no such drain ... and as you I get only approx 3% or 4% per 12 hours discharge with wifi on while sleeping ...
This drives me crazy ...
At 56% at 3:00 pm today (I'm french), since a discharge at 6:00 am, my batteries info from parameters are :
Screen : 39 %
Network / Radio function : 33% (what is this ?)
MX player : 16 %
Sleep mode : 3 %
And the rest is under 2 or 3 % ...
For example, I watch a movie for only 30minutes today and played Zombie Tsunami for approx 20 minutes wich only drains 2% on the battery monitor ...
golgoth57 said:
Hi guys,
I will search your thread cause I have this huge battery drain problem too.
I'm on 4.2.2 for long now but for 1 or 2 months now, my battery drains very rapidly when I'm watching movies or series ... I can use the samsung player or MX player it's just the same ...
When I'm 100%, i loose more than 10 % in 15 minutes of watching ... in fact my train travel in the morning is 30 minutes, and If i'm watching a movie, during the trip I loose nearly 30 % !!!
The thing is when I'm playing games or do something else, there is no such drain ... and as you I get only approx 3% or 4% per 12 hours discharge with wifi on while sleeping ...
This drives me crazy ...
At 56% at 3:00 pm today (I'm french), since a discharge at 6:00 am, my batteries info from parameters are :
Screen : 39 %
Network / Radio function : 33% (what is this ?)
MX player : 16 %
Sleep mode : 3 %
And the rest is under 2 or 3 % ...
For example, I watch a movie for only 30minutes today and played Zombie Tsunami for approx 20 minutes wich only drains 2% on the battery monitor ...
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I wonder if your using data connection instead of Wifi...Data would draw more power when used, that is probably why you see Network/Radio about as high as screen. I have MX player pro as well so it is not an issue with MX player.
When I watch Netflix I get about 12% an hour drain with Miracast activated. As for playing video files on SD, it can be a lot lower to a lot higher depending on size and bit rate. Remember media playback has a number of things going on, speaker / earphones, video quality, and screen brightness will draw power at higher levels. I suggest doing a test with BBC iplayer for streaming when at home since your in France. Watch about 30 minutes with power saver enabled. You should get about 5% drain at most for the 30 minute test. If you are doing that, I would think the Data connection would be your primary issue with power drain. A way you can boost battery while watching video when traveling, you can purchase an external rechargeable battery. Both Data and GPS will suck the power right out of your device much faster than WIFI and there are a few battery calibration apps that use GPS to quick discharge for faster calibration.
Hope this helps in understanding.
I've got a similar issue.
I've seen a change recently, because the battery lasts much shorter now than only a few weeks ago. I suspect it could have to do with having run the battery too low (below 20%) a couple of times, specially with my kid playing games or watching Youtube on it. 49% of consumption is the screen, 27% is Android OS, Skype 11%. I haven't installed any new apps in that tim, although I updated Skype to a well functioning version (4.6.0.42007), but with it consuming 11% of total energy, I doubt that being the culprit. I haven't change the energy conservation setting (it's turned off), so it's not that either. On the other hand I turned on Playstore apps updating recently, and that might have something to do with it.
Today the Note even went dead, I didn't notice any battery alert. Is there a way to turn a SOUND on for this. Can't seem to find it. However, the Samsung UI keeps making little ringing noises with every received mail, right up to the device shutting off (sound on message alert is turned off). Any way to turn that off?
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I've got a similar issue.
I've seen a change recently, because the battery lasts much shorter now than only a few weeks ago. I suspect it could have to do with having run the battery too low (below 20%) a couple of times, specially with my kid playing games or watching Youtube on it. 49% of consumption is the screen, 27% is Android OS, Skype 11%. I haven't installed any new apps in that tim, although I updated Skype to a well functioning version (4.6.0.42007), but with it consuming 11% of total energy, I doubt that being the culprit. I haven't change the energy conservation setting (it's turned off), so it's not that either. On the other hand I turned on Playstore apps updating recently, and that might have something to do with it.
Today the Note even went dead, I didn't notice any battery alert. Is there a way to turn a SOUND on for this. Can't seem to find it. However, the Samsung UI keeps making little ringing noises with every received mail, right up to the device shutting off (sound on message alert is turned off). Any way to turn that off?
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Ah, wow! I always have my screen much higher than any app with battery consumption. I use Dolphin browser for Youtube video while browsing with flash enabled and flash.apk installed as well. I prefer the youtube app for links to youtube from emails.
As for sound, it depends on the app that sends notifications. I just block the device most of the time. Though google has options to use default notifications sometimes it can get confused when you set your devices notifications to silent. Then you must change googles notification to silent as well. I think you do that in language and input in one of the google settings for TTS or Voice. It is really a pain but then again that is why I just block and leave things be. Block is in the Notification panel. you can open the complete switch panel by choosing the squares in the upper right.
When your device hit 100%, unplug your device, turn it off and put it into the power socket. Does it say the charge is 100% or does it take another half an hour before it say 100%?
If that's the case you have a battery calibration problem. The software thinks it's fully charged when the battery is only half charged.
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When your device hit 100%, unplug your device, turn it off and put it into the power socket. Does it say the charge is 100% or does it take another half an hour before it say 100%?
If that's the case you have a battery calibration problem. The software thinks it's fully charged when the battery is only half charged.
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k
I am sorry to say this... but I have had my own issues with power, and that is why I made a thread about such issues.
What you describe is almost what all OEM Note 8.0 devices do. It will show charging again once you have reconnected power after charging.
It has nothing to do with calibration needed to the battery. I have done this many times with Stock and Civato's ROM. If you do not want the issue with Touchwiz DVFS, download an app to disable it. Then you will not see that sort of issue any more. I do not recommend using tools of any sort to circumvent normal operation, but many have disabled DVFS without ill effects so they have a more accurate view of charge capacity.
Nobody here, including me can tell you what is going on directly with your battery without seeing critical information. If anything post the top battery eaters before you charge. This way we can see what is happening. For the most part media seems to be the issue. As google music player will run in background as Media Server no matter how many times you reboot it will try to re index media files over and over. I froze my Google Music player so the issue is non-existent
Another issue is USB charging cables. Samsung cables are not that good. I moved on to Sony / Nokia cables as they are superior cables and a wee longer to boot.
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Ah, wow! I always have my screen much higher than any app with battery consumption. I use Dolphin browser for Youtube video while browsing with flash enabled and flash.apk installed as well. I prefer the youtube app for links to youtube from emails.
As for sound, it depends on the app that sends notifications. I just block the device most of the time. Though google has options to use default notifications sometimes it can get confused when you set your devices notifications to silent. Then you must change googles notification to silent as well. I think you do that in language and input in one of the google settings for TTS or Voice. It is really a pain but then again that is why I just block and leave things be. Block is in the Notification panel. you can open the complete switch panel by choosing the squares in the upper right.
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Thank you for the reply. Regarding sound, I thought it was Samsung's @mail inbox app, but it was Microsoft's Exchange. So that is now on silent. Didn't have any effect (!). Under Settings --> Personal --> Google, sound is also set to silent (!!).
Under Language I found Language, Keyboard, Speech and Mouse pointer, and sound for key press could be disabled (it already was).
The Unit's system sounds for ringing and messages have been on silent the whole time (!!!). Still not getting rid of it.
The low energy alert, I don't know whether that is Google or Samsung's Touchwiz. I have sound (I would like to get an auditory warning)? If so, where would that be? It seems I've been through all the settings, but since I haven't been able to turn off the sound alert for incoming mail, or turn off the auditory alarm for low energy, there probably are other settings I've missed.
Come to think of it, this subject would probably would go better under a different thread.
Thank you for your assistance.
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k
I am sorry to say this... but I have had my own issues with power, and that is why I made a thread about such issues.
What you describe is almost what all OEM Note 8.0 devices do. It will show charging again once you have reconnected power after charging.
It has nothing to do with calibration needed to the battery. I have done this many times with Stock and Civato's ROM. If you do not want the issue with Touchwiz DVFS, download an app to disable it. Then you will not see that sort of issue any more. I do not recommend using tools of any sort to circumvent normal operation, but many have disabled DVFS without ill effects so they have a more accurate view of charge capacity.
Nobody here, including me can tell you what is going on directly with your battery without seeing critical information. If anything post the top battery eaters before you charge. This way we can see what is happening. For the most part media seems to be the issue. As google music player will run in background as Media Server no matter how many times you reboot it will try to re index media files over and over. I froze my Google Music player so the issue is non-existent
Another issue is USB charging cables. Samsung cables are not that good. I moved on to Sony / Nokia cables as they are superior cables and a wee longer to boot.
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Which app can disable the Samsung dvfs?
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Which app can disable the Samsung dvfs?
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Just search on google play for DVFS... you will need to be rooted.... I like saferoot.zip, and to install xposed framework. Most gamers prefer to disable, but it does wonders for true battery reading and charging.