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Still looking for a car dock? try this.

So, i been reading here for people that have found some docks for the cars and what not... not satisfied with what i read and have seen i went on a personal search.
Here is what i found, and i think works great.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=047DXRZ149CSNC4QZ200
It opens just far enough for the evo, snugly fit, swivels, pretty much all you want for a car dock.
If you want pictures ask and i'll take some later.

TOO BIG! I hate all of those types of car docks, soundgate m2 is the way to go baby, will save ya 15 bucks as well(more possibly if that one doesn't have free shipping)!!

i went with this one because of the FM transmitter on it. All other options require for a hanging transmitter.
Keep in mind i dont have a car with bluetooth connectivity so this was the best that i thought would do the job... so far its great. This summer vacation was fun and easy to get around because of this little(big) gadget.

Yeah that's true, might have to get my own at some point, might just go for a radio that has bluetooth connectivity though because my experience with fm transmitters have sucked in the past, but maybe that's cause i live in a area with a LOT of radio stations.

Here try This for a Car Dock
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Car-Mount-H...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item335f4f9aca

@kingakuma I just bought one and I'll give it a review when it gets here.

kingakuma said:
Here try This for a Car Dock
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Car-Mount-H...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item335f4f9aca
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From the looks of the picture the camera would be on the right hand side when in the horizontal position, therefore upside down as far as stock android is concerned?

flyingwolf said:
From the looks of the picture the camera would be on the right hand side when in the horizontal position, therefore upside down as far as stock android is concerned?
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yeah but if you remember in android 2.2 it allows for orientation with the device facing any direction.
and i also ordered mine waiting for it to arrive

My friend got one of those ebay docks, it came in a package with one of those cheap rubberized cases and a charger.
The dock holds the phone with that case on, and it rotates around so you could put the phone in any direction. The bending arm is actually quite stiff, it doesn't move once you set it into position.
It's a decent mount, haven't seen my friend using it so don't know if the suction cup holds up but I'd expect it to.
I wonder what HTC is gonna release for their car dock in september

Alright, the soundgate sounds great and all. But how in hell do I put that round thing on my Active Seidio Case? :S That just seems wrong.

Fixter said:
Alright, the soundgate sounds great and all. But how in hell do I put that round thing on my Active Seidio Case? :S That just seems wrong.
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If the cage it has is rubberized, you can sand it after masking it off with tape; I'll eventually do something like this. For those still interested in the SoundGate M2, I currently use this solid-mounted (as in bolted to the dashboard) with my Evo.
Supplemental parts/grommets are from Ace Hardware. Don't mind the dust/dirty screen; took a while to get the positioning down to where I wanted it, so I was pretty hands-on.

http://lifehacker.com/5593791/build...eed&utm_campaign=Feed:+gizmodo/full+(Gizmodo)
Just do this... Under 10 bucks and really sturdy.

DIY Vibrant Dock for $5 in materials

I got my Vibrant last week, and I needed a contest entry for a contest over at Instructables, so I hacked up a cheapy iPod dock into an awesome dock for my Vibrant.
The speakers are great for desktop use at work, despite being so cheap.
Unfortunately, I can't post a link to it ... so here are some pictures instead.

Not bad, how do you feed audio into those speakers? Using the AUX jack on the top of the Vibrant im guessing?

Yeah. It's not shown in the pictures, but that speaker set has a built-in 3.5mm cable. You just plug it into the headphone jack on the Vibrant.

NICE! I love instructables.

Is that Sugru for the bumpers? Trying to think of things to do with my samples - neat stuff.
Anyway, awesome dock. Need to keep my eyes open for a cheap dock like that.

Yeah, the Sugru is for the bumpers. I also used it to cover the rough edges of the cut plastic, and to give traction to the feet and stabilize the bottom of the speakers (they liked to rock forward when the phone was placed on the tray).
Those speakers are linked in the Instructable ... I can't post links, but if you search on Amazon for "folding speaker set" and then sort price lowest to highest, you can get those speakers for less than $5 including shipping. They have black ones too.
I happened to get the white set for free from a giveaway. The sugru was free too, so in my case, this dock cost me nothing but a USB cable.

Here -- I think this is your Instructable: http://www.instructables.com/id/Hacking-Cheap-iPhone-speakers-for-Android-Dock/
And the dock: http://amzn.com/dp/B000C8TSCQ
Might need to try making myself one of these too.

Personally, I'm hoping for a rotation mod (like CM has......it'll probably have to wait until CM6 is ported to it) that'll allow for the phone to be upside down. When that happens, I'll try to basically make this, but with a mount for the phone to actually dock into the connections.
If/When I ever get the ambition to do this, I'll definitely be using this instructable as a starting point.
THANK YOU!

Saiboogu said:
Here -- I think this is your Instructable:
Might need to try making myself one of these too.
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Awesome, thanks for posting those. That is indeed my Instructable.
tjhart85 said:
Personally, I'm hoping for a rotation mod (like CM has......it'll probably have to wait until CM6 is ported to it) that'll allow for the phone to be upside down. When that happens, I'll try to basically make this, but with a mount for the phone to actually dock into the connections.
If/When I ever get the ambition to do this, I'll definitely be using this instructable as a starting point.
THANK YOU!
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Yeah, rotation upside down would be awesome. If that were the case, you'd have to lose part of the tray in this version. But I do have a set of desktop computer speakers that are USB powered ....

Nice
Where did you get the clock app?

It's called Digital Clock, you can get it on the Market. It's a free app.

I also have those speakers. I can honestly say they are very cheap but good for the money. If you don't feel like waiting for shipping just go to wal-mart, they are packaged with some of their shirts for about 7 bucks
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Here's another one that I submitted to Instructables today ... no speakers on this stand.

tekkguy said:
Here's another one that I submitted to Instructables today ... no speakers on this stand.
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jesus hahahah

Hey bro, what case are you using, and where did you buy it from?

I'm using the Jelly Case by Amzer ... got it at Amazon: amzn (dot) to (slash) aTMvCj since I can't post links
By the way ... voting started today at Instructables, so if you're a member there, I'd love to have the votes!

Sugru substitute
You can use Goop or other similar type instead of sugru. There is also liquid handle sold as well. You can buy it at home depot or other places like that in adhesives section. there area bunch of these poly urethane polymers. Basically all you have to do to form it is use wax paper to create the depression shape desired.

BTW. You mentioned USB speakers. I have hooked those same speakers up via usb (just strip on end and shove it where the overall + and - of the batteries would be). Take very little electrical knowledge, but I would look it up if you haven't messed around with wiring things up, but I love turning things into USB powered. Although I wanted to put a mini-usb connector on mine and have yet to do it, but just say, for those of you out there, these speakers run off USB just fine.

Well when you buy them from amazon they come with a usb power cord. I didn't get mine from amazon.
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New MT4G Dock released EDIT: DOES NOT USE SIDE CONTACTS

Just read this- I can't find it anywhere online yet, but it might be available in store at T-mo.
Link:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/the-mytouch4g-dock-has-arrived/
EDIT: Changed title so as not to get anybodies hopes up.
(OPINION- UNDERWHELMING)

Its does NOT use the dock pins. It uses the microusb port thus does not launch the dock app. Just FYI before we get 10,000 "does it use the pins?" questions. Source.
FYI, there are links in the tmo forum that I linked where you can purchase it but EVERYWHERE is sold out already.
EDIT: Fixed source.

Awesome, thanks for the info...and the save! Lol
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I guess if they did have the pins, it wouldn't be able to rotate the device into the upright position. This would be more secure. When I had the N1 dock, one little nudge and the device would fall to the floor

@Kid Poker, man that's crap,o don't know if it would be practical, buy it would be nice if they make the mt4g dock in a way that it would use the micro usb and the pins, so it would stay in place better than just sitting on a few contacts.
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Sorry I don't have pics, but had some hands on time with the dock. It does use the usb connector and swivels, and has bluetooth. $50 in a T-Mobile store, but buy 2 $3.99 straps with it and you get 30% off. It is a snug fit. I imagine a body skin will still fit, but no case will work with it.

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Sorry I don't have pics, but had some hands on time with the dock. It does use the usb connector and swivels, and has bluetooth. $50 in a T-Mobile store, but buy 2 $3.99 straps with it and you get 30% off. It is a snug fit. I imagine a body skin will still fit, but no case will work with it.
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lol Oh tmobile, I will never understand your pricing structure- but it's awesome! As far as a snug fit- thats what I kinda figured, I bought a Zagg full skin and a SS realook for the display (a little excessive I know- but hey that 50% off black friday deal from Zagg was awesome) instead of a case, so I could use the docks when they come out. Appreciate the info... but, do you work for t-mo, how did you manage to get access to the dock already???

Why would the dock not use the pins? Can we assume other docks will come out in the future that do use them?

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Appreciate the info... but, do you work for t-mo, how did you manage to get access to the dock already???
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Just walked in the store, the downtown Minneapolis store has two of them. If I had been able to split it up on my bill I would have gotten it, but my credit is burned up with the MT4G. I'll have cash on me tomorrow, I'll pick one up and play with it for a while if they're still in stock. I'll post some pics tomorrow night.

wow $50 for a dock that uses the micro usb port, i wonder if you could do better with ebay knock offs. I'm sure you can probably not as nice but it'll cost 1/5th of the price.

What is the point of having a dock like this that DOESN'T utilize the pins on the phone? That doesn't make much sense at all to me.

You missed the "bluetooth" part, I see. Still, should be at least $10 cheaper imo.

kitsunisan said:
Just walked in the store, the downtown Minneapolis store has two of them. If I had been able to split it up on my bill I would have gotten it, but my credit is burned up with the MT4G. I'll have cash on me tomorrow, I'll pick one up and play with it for a while if they're still in stock. I'll post some pics tomorrow night.
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Cool, I'll keep an eye out. The pics make it look a little top heavy with the phone in it- I wonder how it balances out- wonder if the base is weighted...
greenstuffs said:
wow $50 for a dock that uses the micro usb port, i wonder if you could do better with ebay knock offs. I'm sure you can probably not as nice but it'll cost 1/5th of the price.
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Yeah $50 is steep- the other links are showing $38 though- that seems more of a fair price if it's a legit product. I'm thinking I would buy this for use in my office, and wait for the one that makes use of the contacts to use at home.

I'm using it right now. Got it at T-Mo retail. It looks like every store only got two in-stock for some reason? I guess I could take pics, but it would be with my crappy old iPhone 2G camera, which would be really low-res and pointless. :/
So, the quick-n-dirty 'review', for those of you who are as nerdy as me:
Synapsis: Don't bother!
myTouch 4G Swivel Dock
Pros:
Nice, weighted base (where the BT antenna is housed, along with micro USB intput and 3.5mm audio out). It is definitely weighted and nice feeling.
Looks fairly sleek, despite the cheesy 'my' logo on the front of the dock.
Bottom of the 'weight' is rubberized, so it doesn't slide around.
The back of the swivel stand has the same, soft, rubberized material so the back of the phone does not scratch on the plastic.
It serves the purpose of securely (emphasis on this) docking your device. That thing isn't coming out without some force.
No Bluetooth PIN is required to pair (simply pair in BT settings).
Allows you to charge and sync over USB (think 'iPod / iPhone dock')
Streams audio from the phone to the dock, via BT.
Cons:
Does not come with an extra USB cable.
No solution to use the FM Radio without just dangling your headset off of the side (in fact, the 3.5mm from the phone is blocked by the cradle). So, so, so, very lame. I realize I could just buy a cheap FM Alarm Clock, but what's the point of having all of this cool tech in my phone if there's no practical way to use it? Wasted opportunity, if you ask me.
Getting the phone in there at first, you feel like it might be really easy to damage the USB port.
A small amount of 'rattle' to the swivel mechanism, but otherwise, sturdy.
It is somewhat difficult and awkward to seat the device into the dock; this is a really snug fit.
BT audio kind of sucks biggity balls. Highs crack and there is a general layer of compression running through everything. Basically, there's no point in playing files that are encoded at anything above 64KBPS. Listening to music on high-end speakers kind of sounds like ass. So, yeah. Not sure why they didn't just route the audio through the USB port, iPhone-style? It's not terrible, but if you're an audiophile, you will cringe a little bit. Directly inputting to the phone sounds 200x better.
There doesn't appear to be a way to pair the dock with your computer, to try and re-route the audio stream (super nerdy stuff on my part).
T-Mo, in all their wisdom, left out support for landscape viewing throughout most of the OS. Really bone-headed and stupid (same complaint I have with using the phone as a GPS device -- sideways contacts / phone = stupid).
The docking pins are not used in any way, shape, or form (no automatic 'desk mode' / no automatic alarm clock). Lame. So lame. I'm so disappointed by this, because the docking pins were one of the main reasons I went with this phone (assuming super-fancy docks would be coming out).
The 3.5mm audio cables you plug in can very easily be unseated / pulled out from a bump. I don't know if this is because I'm using super-professional-grade cables that have a hefty weight / insulation to them? But if the cable applies any pressure to the dock's input, I get the infamous analog 'BUZZZZZZ!' sound. It's not cheap, I just think the cables are too heavy-duty.
The Dock wraps over the volume and lockscreen keys. Kinda dumb, but I understand why this has to be. I imagine the BT audio normalizes anyway.
They really should've thought out how to integrate their docks with the OS a bit more.
It's not terrible, but it's not mind-blowing. I got it for 20% off, and was able to use credit from a returned accessory. I got it for about $30, and I think that's probably a more reasonable price for what amounts to nothing more than a fancy USB port with lousy Audio Out capabilities. It's a solid and safe way to charge your phone at night, basically. I'll probably keep it, but it is a bit of a letdown, if you were expecting to drop your phone into it and have it automatically launch some kind of cool interface. I think they should've routed the 3.5mm stream from the USB input, and that they should've found a way to include an FM antenna into the device to make use of the super nice FM radio app. The fact that it doesn't automatically go into Desk Dock Mode is infinitely disappointing to me.
Basically, if your only other solution was to have it nervously balance on the edge of your table, sitting on your laptop, with your cat / dog or a child running around the house? This is a much better and safer solution.
If they just built landscape support into Sense, this would be pretty sweet. But I guess that's why they have it 'swivel', right? Lame.
Feel free to ask me any more questions, if you've got 'em.

@Jon C Wow, I'm impressed! Kudos man, I have a hard time typing out a whole paragraph. Excellent review! So, is the bluetooh in the cradle just for you to be able to plug in headphones at the base of the unit, or is there a built in speaker? I like their attention to detail with the rubberized parts you mentioned. So, with the phone being such a snug fit in the cradle via the micro usb- do you think that could cause any issues with the phone potentially being docked and undocked several times daily? I was pretty bummed when I noticed that the volume rocker is covered as while I'm @ work sitting at my desk, I like to put on Pandora with the ability to adjust the volume when I have to make phone calls. I'm thinking I will just continue using my business card holder for my phone stand- it seems to have more of the functionality I'm looking for lol.

@Jon C. Thanks for the write up! I really only want the dock to prolong the live of my micro usb port and for the auto clock function (I use it on my night stand) so I will NOT be purchasing this one. I really hope they come up with something else, total waiste to have the dock pins and not use them.
Man I miss my Nexus dock!

I updated the review a little bit. Not only does the dock block the volume keys, but it blocks the lock button and the 3.5mm out.
To answer your question: No, there is no speaker on the dock, simply a 3.5mm out.
Also, I need to stress how annoyingly difficult it is to actually seat the phone. The dock feels like it was engineered back when the phone was called the 'myTouch HD', and probably had slightly different dimensions (much like the gel cases, which do not fit exactly).
I really have to jam the phone hard against the back of the dock, to line up the USB port. I could easily see the USB port getting damaged from repeated 'misses'. The stupid little USB connector actually put a nice little dent into the side of my soft-touch paint.
Man, how the **** do you mess this up? What a letdown.
Sadly, guys, I don't think we're going to get anything better. That said, I'm really thinking about taking this thing back, based on how impossibly hard it is to even get the phone in there to begin with.

Jeez! Yeah I would take that thing back for sure. That really sucks that the stupid thing dented the side of your phone! They should give you something cool for free ;p...I'm just sayin...
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Normally, my OCD would require that I swap out my current phone for another one. However, with all of the bull**** with the variances in screen quality and so forth, I'd rather not push my luck. Plus, the reps at all of the T-Mo stores around here are kind of pushy / annoying and get angry when you want to swap out phones.
Still, I am pissed. Super lame, T-Mo and HTC. What the hell were you idiots thinking?
I hope a third-party makes a dock with pin support. Odds of that happening? Slim-to-none.

Yeah, I can understand the ocd thing lol! You do have a very sad but true point about a new hit or miss phone. Just to clarify though, who is the manufacturer of the dock- HTC or tmo? You would think that they would come out with some kind of dock to utilize those contacts on the side of the phone.
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Dock?

Has anyone bought this?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/USB-Sync-Cra...751912?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cbfabe768
After using a similar dock for my Nexus One, I think I'm hooked to them. mainly because I can use the phone as a desk clock when I sleep and it's also easier to debug/run apps from Eclipse and not pick up the phone to use them every time.
All I'm concerned about it that because there's no reinforcement at the front, it might be a lot of stress on the mirco-usb port. Any thoughts?

I would rather buy this cradle from Kidgi
http://kidigi.com/product_lv2.php?pid=1356
Looks geat and I know quality is good. Already own acouple of dock from them for a Defy and HD2. Pitty no pogo pins though. I sent Kidigi an email asking about futre docks usng tem and their prompt reply wasthat they are looking into it.

Those both look really nice for portrait docks... And I seriously can't decide if I'd prefer a portrait or landscape...
If I go for landscape, I think the best, although definitely not cheapest, solution would be to stick the official battery charger and cradle together with plastic velcro so that I'd have them together all the time, then when I go on a trip and need a second battery and stand, I'd just disconnect them and take that part.
...oei I overcomplicate things, haha.

atomic_dude said:
I would rather buy this cradle from Kidgi
http://kidigi.com/product_lv2.php?pid=1356
Looks geat and I know quality is good. Already own acouple of dock from them for a Defy and HD2. Pitty no pogo pins though. I sent Kidigi an email asking about futre docks usng tem and their prompt reply wasthat they are looking into it.
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Damn, that does look nice! Can you let us know when it's available?
Thanks!

Knolly said:
Those both look really nice for portrait docks... And I seriously can't decide if I'd prefer a portrait or landscape...
If I go for landscape, I think the best, although definitely not cheapest, solution would be to stick the official battery charger and cradle together with plastic velcro so that I'd have them together all the time, then when I go on a trip and need a second battery and stand, I'd just disconnect them and take that part.
...oei I overcomplicate things, haha.
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I need portrait since I'll then probably be using it to test out apps without picking up the phone. A landscape dock would defeat the purpose
atomic_dude said:
I would rather buy this cradle from Kidgi
http://kidigi.com/product_lv2.php?pid=1356
Looks geat and I know quality is good. Already own acouple of dock from them for a Defy and HD2. Pitty no pogo pins though. I sent Kidigi an email asking about futre docks usng tem and their prompt reply wasthat they are looking into it.
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Looks really good. I'll probably buy this one instead. I think I saw one like this for the NS on ebay some time ago too.
Thanks!

They have it up for pre-order now:
http://www.4u-mobi.com/onlineshop/shopping_cart.php
A bit steep though

Your link referes to your shopping cart ...
http://www.4u-mobi.com/onlineshop/online_shop_detail.php?pid=5788
mh, $40 ... expected it to be cheaper, but so far the best dock I have seen around

i wish they offered HDMI on the dock that charges the 2nd battery as well really looks like a quality product though

Does the GSM version fit in the one wihtout the 2nd battery charger ( US$ 27.99 ) and some who know when it is in stock?

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i wish they offered HDMI on the dock that charges the 2nd battery as well really looks like a quality product though
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Verizon makes a desktop cradle with HDMI output
A store associate showed me the picture of it last month when I was purchasing a case for mine.
They said it should be available around launch time of the device.
I just looked on Verizon's website and didn't see anything
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HTC One X Desktop Cradle with Speaker CR S650

http://www.expansys.com/htc-one-x-d...tm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=base&ito=1701
Considering getting one of these when they are released... I just wanted to ask if anyone has read about the wattage? If it works as a decent speaker I'd be more than tempted. If it's a measley 2.5W pile of nothing I might not bother...

i dont think the speaker will be anything good, more about just puttng the phone on a dock, but i do think its overpriced for what it is, but i love the idea of it.

I just think perhaps the wattage could be the decider... if it's good it'll be reasonable value. I suspect it might not be though

I think its more "gentle" to put the phone on a cradle like this then fiddle in the plug every night isnt it?!

Be warned that if you want to use a case on the phone and still dock it, the ONLY hard case that seems to let the "pins" of the dock reach the back of the phone is the HTC HC C704 which stupidly doesn't have a clear version like the HTC HC C700. The C700 is missing the holes!! Very odd design choice by HTC

Poor thing! And the c704 don`t seems to protect the ring around the lense of the cam.

You can't protect the ring on the camera with the docking cases because the dock has a groove that holds the camera, and the extra protection would make it sit in the dock less securely(because it can't sit flush to the dock). I believe that is why they differentiated the cases.

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Be warned that if you want to use a case on the phone and still dock it, the ONLY hard case that seems to let the "pins" of the dock reach the back of the phone is the HTC HC C704 which stupidly doesn't have a clear version like the HTC HC C700. The C700 is missing the holes!! Very odd design choice by HTC
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But there is a white and a grey version to match each colour of the phone.
For me, the dock is tempting for work to keep it charged and sync my outlook calendar.

Is anybody interested in cheaper version with only pogo-pin charging? It seems that pogo connectors are availiable from chinese producers, we just need to design the case and electronics I would throw in my 20 Euro for a good designed product.
Let me know if you are interested in kickstarted project.

chortya said:
Is anybody interested in cheaper version with only pogo-pin charging? It seems that pogo connectors are availiable from chinese producers, we just need to design the case and electronics I would throw in my 20 Euro for a good designed product.
Let me know if you are interested in kickstarted project.
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I'm interested. I only want charging really, not bothered about a crappy speaker
Si

love the idea!
make it a clean design, and my money is yours
maybe a hdmi connector too? <- would pay more for that maybe as special version?

The main thing putting me off about this dock is the angle at which the device will sit, as far as I'm concerned it's far too shallow.

I agree with my Rotherham friend. I'm not interested in it doing anything fancy then
Charge the device
Make it enter dock mode
Look pretty
Si

I like it, I might get one for work, so I can clearly see my phone screen when I'm at work.
I'm guessing if the phones in the cradle then Sense 4.0 will go landscape?

I would buy a cheap dock for charging.... hdmi sounds good but I guess the cost will slowly creep up....

BigladUK said:
I'm interested. I only want charging really, not bothered about a crappy speaker
Si
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Theres someone selling a desktop charger in ebay UK

vanngoh said:
Theres someone selling a desktop charger in ebay UK
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Can you link to it ?
Si

a link please ..?

All docks that are available now use micro USB not the pogo pins! I thought about starting a project but I'm lacking electronics skills... A friend of mine can model the product in CAD and I could find a way to print a prototype in 3D but first pogo pin charging needs to be reverse engineered and tested. I think HTC may have added some kind of accessory verification...

Is there anyone who've bought this cradle already?? The want to buy one, if the connection between the dock and telephone is good. So if there is anyone who've bought it could you give a review??
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