It is inevitable that I will be getting one of these when ever it comes to ATT but I am wondering, is the touch screen any better than the kaiser? The only thing that I like about the iphone is the fact that the touch screen just seems to work much better as far as scrolling(not multi-touch).
Thanks in advance!
The touchscreen is much improved from the Touch Pro. I think this is as close as a resistive touchscreen can get to a
capacitive touchscreen the iPhone has. Only subtle pressure needed no navigate and press buttons.
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I have a TD2 but in all honesty I bet the touch tech on the TP2 is the same. I thought the TD was nice and responsive. The TD2 is perfect. In My Honest Opinion it is way better than a capacitive screen like the iphone and ipod touch. Capacitive is way too sensitive and I always get wrong inaccurate presses on my ipod touch. Especially when I use my thumb. The resistive screen also allows you to type much faster seeing as you don't have to lift your thumbs all the way up.
With the TP2 though you have a hard keybaord so that wouldn't matter. But I type really quick on my TD2. Way faster than I ever could on my ipod touch. I say go for it when AT&T gets it.
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I have a TD2 but in all honesty I bet the touch tech on the TP2 is the same. I thought the TD was nice and responsive. The TD2 is perfect. In My Honest Opinion it is way better than a capacitive screen like the iphone and ipod touch. Capacitive is way too sensitive and I always get wrong inaccurate presses on my ipod touch. Especially when I use my thumb. The resistive screen also allows you to type much faster seeing as you don't have to lift your thumbs all the way up.
With the TP2 though you have a hard keybaord so that wouldn't matter. But I type really quick on my TD2. Way faster than I ever could on my ipod touch. I say go for it when AT&T gets it.
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awesome thanks! TP2 was my only option anyway, WM is so much better than the iPhone OS.
thedudelasse said:
The touchscreen is much improved from the Touch Pro. I think this is as close as a resistive touchscreen can get to a
capacitive touchscreen the iPhone has. Only subtle pressure needed no navigate and press buttons.
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I agree, its very nice
HTC Touch Freak said:
I have a TD2 but in all honesty I bet the touch tech on the TP2 is the same. I thought the TD was nice and responsive. The TD2 is perfect. In My Honest Opinion it is way better than a capacitive screen like the iphone and ipod touch. Capacitive is way too sensitive and I always get wrong inaccurate presses on my ipod touch. Especially when I use my thumb. The resistive screen also allows you to type much faster seeing as you don't have to lift your thumbs all the way up.
With the TP2 though you have a hard keybaord so that wouldn't matter. But I type really quick on my TD2. Way faster than I ever could on my ipod touch. I say go for it when AT&T gets it.
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Thats great to hear
I have a similar question... On my Kaiser (which now has a broken screen... again!) I found that (surprise!) the screen is too sensitive.
So here's my question: Is the screen structurally the same (i.e. a thin sheet of plastic over a finger-nail-thick LCD?
If so I might be very hesitant to buy one.
Hi you Desire owners.
Can you please tell me what the screen sensitivity is like?
Is it smooth? I have large fingers - is the keyboard and the buttons large finger friendly?
I am so used to a stylus just using my fingers would be a change.
Shame HTC dont keep resistive screens.
Cheers
Aussie
aussie1234 said:
Hi you Desire owners.
Can you please tell me what the screen sensitivity is like?
Is it smooth? I have large fingers - is the keyboard and the buttons large finger friendly?
I am so used to a stylus just using my fingers would be a change.
Shame HTC dont keep resistive screens.
Cheers
Aussie
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I have fairly bit hands as well and have also come from a stylus based phone (Touch HD) and I have no issues with the screen, it is very sensitive and that takes a bit of getting used to.
The keyboard is very good, I have no issues typing with my thumbs
I HATE using the iphone that my friends have because i cannot use my nail. I am so used to using my nail since 2004. I wish they would have used resistive multi touch instead of capacitive.
Guess i will be keeping my TD 2 for a long long time.
Guess you are.
What's the point of this thread and why couldn't you just post your opinion in the "WP7 is complete fail" thread?
Capacitive are much better than resistive screens for touch screen phones and that's a fact(you just need to get used to them). For tablets it's the other way around.
It would be awesome if someone figured out a way to utilize both techs.
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It would be awesome if someone figured out a way to utilize both techs.
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Read through the feature list of this touchscreen technology: http://www.atmel.com/products/touchscreens/default.asp?family_id=701
The eleventh bullet point states: "Supports stylus, fingernails, and gloves". BTW this touchscreen technology is used on the HTC Droid Incredible and the HTC EVO. Maybe you could test if it works on those screens if you come across either of those phones.
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Read through the feature list of this touchscreen technology: http://www.atmel.com/products/touchscreens/default.asp?family_id=701
The eleventh bullet point states: "Supports stylus, fingernails, and gloves". BTW this touchscreen technology is used on the HTC Droid Incredible and the HTC EVO. Maybe you could test if it works on those screens if you come across either of those phones.
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Doesn't work according to owners of the incredible.
There are resistive screens that support both nails and multitouch.
They are not supported by Microsoft however. But we might see them in other (e.g. Android) phones in the future.
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There are resistive screens that support both nails and multitouch.
They are not supported by Microsoft however. But we might see them in other (e.g. Android) phones in the future.
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I don't expect any Android phones with resistive screens from any of the bigger Android supporters in the industry, like HTC for example. HTC has said that they learned from the HTC Tattoo to never do an Android phone with a resistive touchscreen again. It's simply too much of an inferior experience and that makes the higher cost of a capacitive touchscreen worth it.
The problem with a resistive touchscreen is that it reacts to pressure and not to contact. That's precisely what you need if you want to operate the touchscreen with your nails, but it just doesn't work well for all other touchscreen user interface manipulations. It's just a much more pleasant experience if the screen reacts to your input without having to barely do anything, it makes using the touchscreen a much more delightful experience.
Another problem with a resistive touchscreen is the fact that because it reacts to pressure, the screen need to be flexible. This means that you can't use a tempered glass screen or something similar on a resistive touchscreen device and you can't (or it's very very hard to) make a device with a touchscreen that's flush with its bezel. The former means that your screen a more prone to scratching and also that it makes the underlying screen a bit more vulnerable to damage.
Now I agree that a capacitive touchscreen also has its drawbacks, but for a mobile phone or a PMP a capacitive touchscreen and a finger friendly user interface is preferable in my opinion compared to a resistive touchscreen. There are other market segments and usage scenarios where a device with a resistive touchscreen is preferable to a capacitive touchscreen, for example in Postal Services where the mail man can collect a signature from you on his portable device that features a resistive touchscreen or in restaurants. But for a mobile phone I'd prefer a capacitive touchscreen simply because it's much easier to use and I don't need a stylus (too cumbersome) on a mobile phone.
This is not a resistive vs. capacitive discussion. I much prefer capacitive on phones, but here's a user who wants to use his fingernails. Hence I was just stating the facts: Microsoft does not support anything but capacitive, but we might see new resistive panels on other phones (that are different from and much better than what was used in the tattoo).
Whether you like resistive screens or not is another story.
xboxhaxorz said:
I HATE using the iphone that my friends have because i cannot use my nail. I am so used to using my nail since 2004. I wish they would have used resistive multi touch instead of capacitive.
Guess i will be keeping my TD 2 for a long long time.
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I prefer resistive as well. I like to use my fingernail. I also like to draw and using a stylus on a resistive screen feels better.
But we're pretty much the odd men out, so we'll just have to get used to it.
gom99 said:
I prefer resistive as well. I like to use my fingernail. I also like to draw and using a stylus on a resistive screen feels better.
But we're pretty much the odd men out, so we'll just have to get used to it.
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I've never used a capacative screen so I don't know if I will like it or not. I don't have fingernails but I do like using my pencil or stylus in class while doing math problems on my spacetime graphic calc software so It'll be interesting to see how I feel about a capacative screen.
Resistive great for sweaty palms
For a guy who's hands sweats alot, I actually had to give up my blackberry storm for a Touch pro 2... Now, I agree that the capacitive screen is very easy to manipulate but when my hands sweat 85% of the time, a resistive screen is a godsend. While the percentage of sweaty palms vs normal palms is probably very small, capacitive screens turn to shyte when water gets on it.... and when that happens, it's like I have a brick...i cannot do anything... even if my hands get clammy, the difficulty in typing or navigating the screen is "hair pulling" awful.
To be honest... I really love using my nails and a stylus... plus you have to admit...pullng out a touch pro 2 in a meeting and then using the stylus...It just brings a green hue to the room (envy) lol!
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For a guy who's hands sweats alot, I actually had to give up my blackberry storm for a Touch pro 2... Now, I agree that the capacitive screen is very easy to manipulate but when my hands sweat 85% of the time, a resistive screen is a godsend. While the percentage of sweaty palms vs normal palms is probably very small, capacitive screens turn to shyte when water gets on it.... and when that happens, it's like I have a brick...i cannot do anything... even if my hands get clammy, the difficulty in typing or navigating the screen is "hair pulling" awful.
To be honest... I really love using my nails and a stylus... plus you have to admit...pullng out a touch pro 2 in a meeting and then using the stylus...It just brings a green hue to the room (envy) lol!
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Don't feel bad, I have Hyperhidrosis too. Probably the main reason I hate capacitive, anything I touch turns to a smudgy mess. I know you can use a stylus with a capacitive screen, but it really feels awkward with the 1cm^2 tip and the lack of precision of a real stylus. Also it's not contractable and easily stored in the device since it's not the norm to have a stylus with a capacitive screen.
I reckon y'all have got girl fingernails.
Come on guys, trim those nails, and would it kill you to use the fingernail brush every once in a while?
Capacitive screens Feck The World!
elyl said:
I reckon y'all have got girl fingernails.
Come on guys, trim those nails, and would it kill you to use the fingernail brush every once in a while?
Capacitive screens Feck The World!
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you don't need a long fingernail to touch your fingernail against something...just turn your finger more so your nail makes contact with the surface before your tip does. Unless of course you have unsightly hands where your meaty part of your finger encapulates your fingernail.
Looks good , very well done!
I know they have resistive multi touch but its probably too expensive. I might end up switching to another company for phones and i would hate too as i have been a HTC user since the wing. The capacitive glassy feel is not for me, and a stylus is a must especially for drawing and hw recognition which the hd2 and iphone have none of.
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The capacitive glassy feel is not for me, and a stylus is a must
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Same here, no stylus, no ability to use small, space efficient text....no interest.
gom99 said:
I prefer resistive as well. I like to use my fingernail. I also like to draw and using a stylus on a resistive screen feels better.
But we're pretty much the odd men out, so we'll just have to get used to it.
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I agree. I'd also rather use my stylus because I want my phone like a mini-computer. It can't use a mouse for pin-point accuracy, but a stylus sure suffices.
I understand the world is going to capacitive touchscreens and it's a shame. I always liked resistive better. It's more accurate. I know that people want to use their finger tips to swipe and sweep and whatever, but there are plenty of limitations out there to it.
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Read through the feature list of this touchscreen technology: http://www.atmel.com/products/touchscreens/default.asp?family_id=701
The eleventh bullet point states: "Supports stylus, fingernails, and gloves". BTW this touchscreen technology is used on the HTC Droid Incredible and the HTC EVO. Maybe you could test if it works on those screens if you come across either of those phones.
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Wish I had 16 fingers...
You guys could always use a capacitive stylus. Remeber capacitive screen works by detecting a change of charge in the screen. Basically things that can conduct electricity should be usable as a stylus. If you're smart, you wouldn't find it hard to modify any stylus to make it work with a capacitive screen.
Else, you could buy any of the capacitive styluses online, which usually cost 3-20 dollar-ish. The fluffy tip is the best as you don't need to hold it at an angle.
I'm still waiting for my HD2 currently, and I already ordered that stylus in advance
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You guys could always use a capacitive stylus. Remeber capacitive screen works by detecting a change of charge in the screen. Basically things that can conduct electricity should be usable as a stylus. If you're smart, you wouldn't find it hard to modify any stylus to make it work with a capacitive screen.
Else, you could buy any of the capacitive styluses online, which usually cost 3-20 dollar-ish. The fluffy tip is the best as you don't need to hold it at an angle.
I'm still waiting for my HD2 currently, and I already ordered that stylus in advance
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Yeah, but the capacitive stylus feels nothing like the resistive ones.