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a bit off topic but lets share our today screens

ok so here is mine i have used. i will call this liverpool Champions league winners
1- date
2- weather panel
3- sbp gprs monitor
4- sbp pocket plus
5- spacer
6- today player
oh and i used CEcapture its free you should find it at www.limelink.com

Boring old today screen, fine-tuned for efficiency
Cool idea & nice today screen.
Mine's a totally different approach. I tried all kinds of backgrounds, but found that photo's make the text hard to read, so eventually I came back to the boring old default blue one... I expanded it to the top and bottom of the screen.
Wisbar
Pocketbreeze
Battery bar pro
Weatherpanel (in Pocketbreeze tab)
My Today screen is all about information. I want my appointments, tasks and mail notifications to be clearly readable, with important items highlighted, yet easy on the eyes - no fluorescent stuff for me. Notice the carefully chosen text colors and the everso subtle hint of font shading to make it stand out. 8) (ok I know, I'm so full of it... :roll: )
The icon console in the Wisbar top bar is my own design. I tried to make it as compact as possible, to allow for a lot of running program icons next to the start button.
There's four scrollable rows of program shortcuts in the Program bar.
Might experiment with skinning a little more, it's fun.

i like the wisbar plug-in do you know where i can get it for free :wink:

Wisbar
i too liked the wisbar one where can i find it !!!
or is there any one who would like to share it

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spread_smiles said:
i too liked the wisbar one where can i find it !!!
or is there any one who would like to share it
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Google for "Wisbar pda"
The 1st link will take you to it.. It's freeware
OK.. I will help you: http://www.pdagold.com/software/detail.asp?s=76
-N

dosent work
thanks for the link but it dosent work for WM2003
bad luck
it says invalid ppc program
got another or on which windows are you useing it !!

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spread_smiles said:
thanks for the link but it dosent work for WM2003
bad luck
it says invalid ppc program
got another or on which windows are you useing it !!
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Works fine on my WM2003

where do you go to change the settings ????????????/

does anyone have a good windows mobile 5 ppc theme? or at least close to one?

Try this, its already optimized for PocketPlus.

I'm bored, so might as well post my new creation as well.

Juni's SWDeluxe Skin Suite v3.0
Juni's modified Chromium

Quickie question, those that have the task bar skinned...what app are you using to skin the notfication button and signal strength? Haven't found anything that works on the XV6600.
I'll post my today screen when I get home:
Date
SPB PocketPlus with Weather tabbed
SPB Diary
Messages
SPB 'Sphere' theme

I like my Today with plain black background. It's easier for me to read !!

Big Calhoun said:
what app are you using to skin the notfication button and signal strength?
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It's Wisbar Advance 2. Skinning it yourself is not too difficult; I made my taskbar and taskbar icons with Photoshop. But there's plenty of cool skins available, like the ones from Juni.

I've found that with Wisbar Advance 2.0, my resources are very low and it slows down the entire ppc. Anybody else with this problem? I love the various looks I can make, but because of it being so memory intensive, I've opted, for now, to not run it.

I'm with rsbenedict on this one. I've tried wisbar a few times, but it always seems to slow my device to a crawl. Has it improved recently?

WISBAR has been improved, try it for me no slowdowns

Skinners are getting better and better. I personally like this one as it matches my unit casing.

Hey Nomadman, what app are you using to pick up the news story?
Q.

[THEME] Sence le Revolution v2 is out!!

Check out the new Sense UI for SPB MS3 done by the great folks at Mobile Custom:
http://www.mobilecustom.fr/forum/index.php/topic,2398.0.html
There are quite a bit of new widgets..
The theme rocks!!

How to install this?

it's great
it's looks very beautiful, but the linked wesite is in French and i don't know how to download and install the theme. Anybody can post it and give some instruction?thanks a lot~~

delight_11 said:
it's looks very beautiful, but the linked wesite is in French and i don't know how to download and install the theme. Anybody can post it and give some instruction?thanks a lot~~
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This skin is only usable in portrait.
Resolution support: VGA, WVGA, QVGA, WQVGA
the 240 * 240 is not supported but little walk
New:
- 7 new analog clock
- 5 new digital clock
- 6 new Battery
- 3 calendar widget calendar
- 1 widget Alarm
- 1 alarm widget background
- 1 widget media player
- 2 bottomless date widget
- 2 bottom widget application
2 Weather widget
) - 1 false Weather widget on page 7 (not removable)
- Page 7 lifestyle with the opportunity to change the animated transition between the page
- Plus all the widgets of the V1
Installation:
- To prevent any display problem and the problem of a facility subject to later ask you to completely uninstall SPB Mobile Shell 3 and reinstall
- Install Mortscript 4.2
Installing the Message2Reg.cab
- Install the cab file for your resolution.
And restart your mobile
: Uninstall:
. After uninstalling the theme, you need to reinstall spb Mobile Shell 3.
Note:
If the change in the substance of the homepage does not work, delete the file in the folder Background.bmp mobile shell with Total Commander or Resco Explorer
You can also change the background by replacing the file Background.bmp by a BMP file save in 16 bit R5V6B5 of the size of your screen that you rename background.dat
. - After installation does not restore a configuration file, it can have bugs.

lol
i have it now on my touch hd
it's verry cool.. looks nice
thnks mahn

Great theme and I have it, too, but if you never tried it note that you loose the carousel with this theme - just for the record. And some of the widgets have French titles.

delight_11 said:
it's looks very beautiful, but the linked wesite is in French and i don't know how to download and install the theme. Anybody can post it and give some instruction?thanks a lot~~
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I used google toolbar translate. You have to register with the website and then you can download.
As for the fact that it removes the carosel, it's well worth it.
I recommend it warmly.

RustyJoe said:
Check out the new Sense UI for SPB MS3 done by the great folks at Mobile Custom:
http://www.mobilecustom.fr/forum/index.php/topic,2398.0.html
There are quite a bit of new widgets..
The theme rocks!!
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Oddly enough it looks similar to the new Leo build for wm6.5 manila 2.6

Hi, I'm using this theme for the first time and I'm having problems with opening sms messages. I get signs for recieving the texts but when I go into the messages page I can't open them at all.
Does anyone have any ideas what I can do to recify this,
O

I really want to use this theme but still not work after installing everything..

How to remove some pages/screens, Dont need all 7?
I have a question regarding the number of screens, Can i change it? I dont need that menu menues, and over half of them are left empty. Can I remove the empty ones?
I also miss favorite contacts buttun/window, How can i get that?
Thaks alot for any tips!

Favourite contacts buttos is still present: Add Widget -> Diver Sence -> ContactsFav.
And AFAIK there is no possibility to change number of screens...

i dont get any word at this site.
Could anyone upload it to rapidshare and post here link?
btw there is english support for this?

My PC died
Hey everyone,
My PC died and I wanna download this via mobile...
But Mobilecustom doesnt work right with mobile downloads...
I asked the maker and he said that i could see if someone else could upload it to their 4Shared or megaupload or something and grab it from them, it would be okay.
It is not okay to post a download, but someone could email me link...so the mass public wouldnt get it...
please PM me if u can help!

For those having problems installing it, make sure that:
1) You are using SPB Mobile Shell 3.x.x
2) You have installed the Message2Reg.cab so that you can use the SMS widget
3) All else fails, reinstall SPB MS3
Personally, I think this theme is fantastic, although I would like to somehow link every page back to the home page with a button somehow...since you sometimes have to swipe three or four times before you get back to the home page.
Other complaints are:
1) No carousel...i miss the eye-candy =P
2) Some widgets are in french, although that's easy to live with and also makes you seem more sophisticated to your friends
3) You cannot change the Professional page...it is now a redundant page that only shows the time and battery meter - I would prefer to have my agenda or calendar there
4) You cannot use the widgets unless you use the full theme...unless there is some "widget capture" program that I have missed
Otherwise, it's a fantastic theme! Definitely worth it and it is good for novelty if nothing else. Somebody actually asked me if I thought that the Android OS was good!...until I told him it was WinMo and he was like " no way!"

Any idea of how to change the launcher button to fav-contacts?
How do i change the "launcher" button to a contacts button? Saw a screenshot in this forum on page 17 that someone had done it.
Dont se the point of having a big button for luncher menu on every screen?

I cant seem to make it fullscreen.. i would like to have the ugly top bar gone?? is this possible?

I could definitely do with a list of widgets, and images to go with them. There's about 20 clocks, and dozens of message widgets. It's really hard to customise it not knowing what's what.
[hint hint, if anyone wants to do this they would be being very useful]

pretty nice theme thnks

Sence Revolution
Great theme running on my Raphael alongside Blue Eye TF3D theme. Just need to change background of Sence: I know how to delete background file etc, but do not understand 16bit bmp. files?? Photoshop offers me a choice of 8bit or 32 bit. Can anyone help me choose the correct res ?

[APP] Theme Switcher Version 1.6 [2 Feb 2010]

I couldnt find an app so I wrote one.
This small app will give you the option to Save your current Settings or rather Mods to Manila/Sence or whatever you call it.
Im no good at graphics so I need someone to give me ideas on how to make it look better.
It will scan the windows folder for all *manila files that has a different date to the original Rom installation. It will take all these files and backup them to a specified folder. So when you flash and you had special clocks,icons,sliders, etc etc you can simply restore it instead of having to reapply all these custom items.
O yes please install on the Storage Card. Might waste too much space on the Internal memory.
I tested it and seems ok but all apps has bugs so please be nice. Leme know if any body wants the source code. Written in C# VS2008
Version 1.1
Please uninstall the old version. I changed the name to Theme Switcher so it will install into a different folder. You can just move the Backup Folder Across. Got some nice graphics and changed the wallpaper. The Config.txt file have some settings in it. Have a look.
Also Any files listed in extrafiles.txt will be backed up and restored as well so one can easily backup the current wallpaper etc
Version 1.4
Just added an Image so if you add a file by the name of "theme.jpg" in the folder where its backed up to it will show the image before you can apply it
Im sorry I re Uploaded the Cab File forgot to include the txt files.
If the Application Icon didnt show in the start menu its been fixed as well. Please show me some screen shots on a diamond
Version 1.5
Rebuild Cab file
- Icon Shows correctly
- All files included
- Added option to Exit without refreshing TF3D
Version 1.6
- Small Graphical changes
- Added following entries to extrafiles.txt which should backup the taskbar etc as well:
top.png
bottom.png
hdwall_softkeybar.png
hdwall_taskbar.png
homebackground.img
BT Discoverable.bmp
BT On Mode.bmp
BT Stereo headset.bmp
GPS-icon Mask.bmp
GPS-icon.bmp
HTCVolumeControl.dll
MMSRes_480x800.dll
outres.192.dll
phcanOverbmp.dll
shellres.192.dll
Stereo headset.bmp
tapres.192.dll
notify.dll.0409.mui
notify.dll.040C.mui
CDMA_RSSI_PPC.dll
WLMMessengerResources.192.dll
Stereo headset Mask.bmp
tshres.192.dll
PictureMailRes.dll
BT Stereo headset Mask.bmp
BT Discoverable Mask.bmp
BT On Mode Mask.bmp
shellres.192.dll.0409.mui
VoiceCmdRes_PPC.dll
htcStartMenuService.dll
LargeTitleBar.dll
NotificationManager.dll

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Just a spare post incase of sumting

Move
Can a Mod please move this thread to Software development please

THANK YOU
Grumps, great job I love this app. Simple and works great.
I will be using it, not only as a theme saver, but also as a theme changer.
I just tried it to switch themes and it worked great.
I haven't used it much yet, so I don't have much feedback.
The only thing that I have come across that needs fixing is that the drop down list for the restore saved theme.
It is hidden behind the restore saved theme button.
Everything else works great.
Thank you so much.

Wouldnt i be nice to save phcanover & the other dlls with icons, too?
Seems to be a great app that will save me a lot oft time,
thx³
Greetz
Boris

howzeet
Phonatic said:
Grumps, great job I love this app. Simple and works great.
I will be using it, not only as a theme saver, but also as a theme changer.
I just tried it to switch themes and it worked great.
I haven't used it much yet, so I don't have much feedback.
The only thing that I have come across that needs fixing is that the drop down list for the restore saved theme.
It is hidden behind the restore saved theme button.
Everything else works great.
Thank you so much.
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what phone did u try it on . i made it on my rhodium. if its a vga device ill fix it. have a diamond as well that ill try it on

borisku said:
Wouldnt i be nice to save phcanover & the other dlls with icons, too?
Seems to be a great app that will save me a lot oft time,
thx³
Greetz
Boris
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i can do that if you can gimme a list of the files. or maybe i can create a text file and one can list all the files in there that it should include in the backup? does anybody know which files contain the wallpaper and the top and bottom bar. guess its called the taskbar. the ones thats part of the top icons and bottom buttons. then it could be a complete theme changer. i use it as that as well

Grumps, thanks for the app. I believe that I am having the same condition that Phonatic describes. I have a Rhodium with stock rom, manilla 2.1.
But that shouldn't matter, should it?
My screenshot has differences from yours, aside from the bottom bar difference between your sense and my manilla.
Mine has the top task bar and less space between the drop-down list and the "restore saved theme" button.
Also mine has nicer looking buttons.
Do I have the wrong version?
When you have more items in your drop down list, does your list stay above the button?
I still am using it. I just use my arrow down/up to make my selection.

Grumps, as a suggestion to fix the problem that I have,
would it be easier to adjust the layout?, than to change the drop down to render in front of the buttons.
Something like this.
Also, since you asked for graphic suggestions, what do you think about making all the buttons have the same look.
Another suggestion is for your startup.jpg.
Instead of your screenshot, which is very nice, how about something that displays the program name and authored-by info.
With a "tap screen to proceed" kinda instruction placed somewhere.
Here are quick mock-ups of the idea that I am trying to convey.
I'm actually using it for your app, they look good on my Rhodium, much better than this screen shot.
I used screenshots from this site to make these mock-ups. Thanks to the OPs.
If anyone minds that I used their image, please let me know and I will replace it.
Anyway, just some food for thought.
Thanks again for the great app, Tilt

This awesome and such a time saver, thank you so much! One thing is I can not delete theme i have saved, I store on storage card but it says I can not delete it is denied other than that it is exactly what I have been looking [email protected]

Thank you for this program!

Tilt ommarow said:
Grumps, as a suggestion to fix the problem that I have,
would it be easier to adjust the layout?, than to change the drop down to render in front of the buttons.
Something like this.
Also, since you asked for graphic suggestions, what do you think about making all the buttons have the same look.
Another suggestion is for your startup.jpg.
Instead of your screenshot, which is very nice, how about something that displays the program name and authored-by info.
With a "tap screen to proceed" kinda instruction placed somewhere.
Here are quick mock-ups of the idea that I am trying to convey.
I'm actually using it for your app, they look good on my Rhodium, much better than this screen shot.
I used screenshots from this site to make these mock-ups. Thanks to the OPs.
If anyone minds that I used their image, please let me know and I will replace it.
Anyway, just some food for thought.
Thanks again for the great app, Tilt
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Wow I like this. Think its a good idea. Maybe I should change the Name to Them Switcher. Dont you wanna do the images for me with the name Theme switcher? I dont know quote how to do all this but ill try and make graphics work as button thingys. Leme see what I can do.

Tilt ommarow said:
Grumps, thanks for the app. I believe that I am having the same condition that Phonatic describes. I have a Rhodium with stock rom, manilla 2.1.
But that shouldn't matter, should it?
My screenshot has differences from yours, aside from the bottom bar difference between your sense and my manilla.
Mine has the top task bar and less space between the drop-down list and the "restore saved theme" button.
Also mine has nicer looking buttons.
Do I have the wrong version?
When you have more items in your drop down list, does your list stay above the button?
I still am using it. I just use my arrow down/up to make my selection.
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Cool ill fix this

Thanks
Grumps said:
Cool ill fix this
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I will patiently wait for the fix. It still works as is.
By the way I like the taskbar showing on top.
Would you please do me the honor of putting this Startup.jpg on your Rhodium.
I just want you to see how it looks on the phone.
The screenshot just doesn't do it justice.
@anyone that wants to see how this looks on the phone, just right click on the image,
save as Startup.jpg and use it to replace the one in your phones Theme Saver folder.

Tilt ommarow said:
I will patiently wait for the fix. It still works as is.
By the way I like the taskbar showing on top.
Would you please do me the honor of putting this Startup.jpg on your Rhodium.
I just want you to see how it looks on the phone.
The screenshot just doesn't do it justice.
@anyone that wants to see how this looks on the phone, just right click on the image,
save as Startup.jpg and use it to replace the one in your phones Theme Saver folder.
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Ihave and I am using it. Im batteling to make it look right on Windows 6.5 and 6.5.3 because of the topbar being smaller and bigger. Can you also give me one without any writing eg theme switcher and save/restore/switch and press any key. Trying to use it as a background image for the app and moving the controls to the menu items

Grumps said:
Ihave and I am using it. Im batteling to make it look right on Windows 6.5 and 6.5.3 because of the topbar being smaller and bigger. Can you also give me one without any writing eg theme switcher and save/restore/switch and press any key. Trying to use it as a background image for the app and moving the controls to the menu items
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I will alter it however you like.
I have time tommorow. For now I must get 3hours sleep before I go to work.
Here is a background.
Goodnight, Tilt ommarow

Tilt ommarow said:
I will alter it however you like.
I have time tommorow. For now I must get 3hours sleep before I go to work.
Here is a background.
Goodnight, Tilt ommarow
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You got a private message. Thanx for the image

What do you think of these buttons?
Here's a template that I made for you.The dimensions are exact to the current layout.
If you were to replace the current background with this, it would be functional.
Some graphics should be added, especialy to brighten the lower section.
The size of the top button looks off, I suggest either make it bigger to match
(which would look crowded with the task bar, unless you lower everything),
or I can change it into a text box or no box just text.
Do you need text added, or is the text part of the app?
Anyway, just let me know your preferences ie graphics, text, color, button style etc., and I will adapt accordingly.

Tilt ommarow said:
Here's a template that I made for you.The dimensions are exact to the current layout.
If you were to replace the current background with this, it would be functional.
Some graphics should be added, especialy to brighten the lower section.
The size of the top button looks off, I suggest either make it bigger to match
(which would look crowded with the task bar, unless you lower everything),
or I can change it into a text box or no box just text.
Do you need text added, or is the text part of the app?
Anyway, just let me know your preferences ie graphics, text, color, button style etc., and I will adapt accordingly.
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This looks very nice. The reason why there is such a big gap at the bottom is that im not sure if it will all fit on a vga device. The buttons look nice. I also cant use it as is because on different device with different os's like 6.1 6.5 6.5.3 the image moves slightly up and down. so you will have to include the images with the text on it, as individual images and they have to be square cause i dont know how to program transparency as yet. Hope it would be possible. Thanx soo much for the effort so far It looks awesome

Grumps said:
This looks very nice. The reason why there is such a big gap at the bottom is that im not sure if it will all fit on a vga device. The buttons look nice. I also cant use it as is because on different device with different os's like 6.1 6.5 6.5.3 the image moves slightly up and down. so you will have to include the images with the text on it, as individual images and they have to be square cause i dont know how to program transparency as yet. Hope it would be possible. Thanx soo much for the effort so far It looks awesome
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Grumps, I just read your pm. Gimme a minute. I think I have something for you.
Thanks for the info above.
As I understand it, you need buttons with text and the background seperate.
I am uploading a file for you. Please let me know how these work for you.View attachment Grumps.zip

OCMan new Start menu Replacement(WVGA,VGA) _ Sense _ 5 columns....

Hello everybody, have finished my modification of kenia1234 sense startmenu replacement, using CHTeditor I have seen we can change programpages from 4 to 5 columns, wanted to do the same on kenia startmenu replacement...here is the result...
This is my first try in modding manila files, and I am quite happy to have understand the thing in half a day, hash file name is really a pain to work with...
But now I have what I wanted, a really usable start menu ( not too much long to scroll like list or 4 columns), included in the cab, shortcut to control panels item so you can disable the Windows mobile start menu to same a great 10mb of RAM, this hack to disabling completely the startmenu is from arto, I have attached the startmenu disabler for wm 6.5 and for wm 6.5.x, Install this to gain system memory...
Thanks to members Etoy & Abrasive We now have VGA versions as well !!!
VGA 4 rows
VGA 5 rows
Here is the link for original WVGA Kenia1234 version :
Original Kenia1234 Thread

Really nice!! I m glad to see that my work was useful for you...
thanks for the quote!
Anyway Good job!!

What would be great is the folder ability like the real startmenu, but thats definitely a hard work of coding...

My real goal to achieve, is to replace the recent program list from the bottom, and to replace it with shortcut for "recent program", "All programs","Control Panel".
This way we can have acces to parameters without loosing the ability of recentprogramlist. but I really don't know enought by now on lua script etc to program the whole thing, we have the layout, we need a good dev to make the whole thing, but I think it's a bit difficult to do as it need the script to understand how to lauch cpl files...
my real dream is a lightweight startmenu replacement like "Panoramic Launcher"...

This looks great - I never knew (or noticed) that the Start Menu was so heavyweight on memory. I might give this a go over the weekend. Nice work!

ocman, this is a very nice tweak to get more ram. I tried Panoramic Launcher, but believe it or not, found it to be a bit buggy. Sometimes it launched and sometimes the start menu launched. I want something which I can get used to. I am trying your program and like it very much. The only thing I would change is to give the settings menu items the same icon as before. I think I can research this one as I know you can add icons to shortcuts.
It does seem to save some ram too.
Well done and thanks!!!

How to put back the start menu?

Hi,
is it possible to creat folder in this start menu (i think yeah but need be sure )
Bye bye (et merci!!)

Hmmm, pitty did not work for me.....did not get te square with start icons. Instead icons where similar oriented as current start menu and logo's where gone.

great job.i ve been looking for a start menu disabler and a replacement for a year.
GREAT JOB,piece of ART !

Not work too at wm 6.5.x.
I installed the cab to replace and the cab to remove start menu, but when i soft reset my device the windows flag has disappeared and i get no more startmenu. Neither new or old

yeah in 6.5.x lost but I gained like 30mb wow
I see were this would really help with CHT or any other version thinking about installing it to see how it works on overlay sitting idle right now with NRGz 8-6 I have 96mb free! That is a good hack either way maybe needs to be cooked into roms and have a shortcut to the windows/startmenu for access to startmenu. Either way nice job.
****you lose your settings menu access as well because I was going to map my windows button to the windows/startup/program files*****

hahaha nice appbutyou forgot something theme settings !
dude wonderful app , but you forgot a shortcut to change the theme and the theme wallpaper ! in WM6.5 and 6.5.3 it has a special path ,not like 6.1 ,you might need to tweak it a little bit ! ! ! !
but its a great RAM saver and super practical ! great job

@ocman,
thanks for sharing..!
Works perfect for me...!
Greetings
sv0911

this works with all devices? and which files should I download and install?

Wow this really makes such a big difference, even on my HD2. This seems to have saved me about 20mb on my memory and has sped up my entire phone quite a lot.
The only problem is I'm using arkswitch and that covers up the start menu button and the start menu hardware button doesn't seem to work so at the moment I've got no way of getting to the start menu. Is it possible to make the hardware button work again?
Overall though it's a big improvement and it has definately made a speed difference and personally I think that this looks better than the default start menu anyway.

I hated the start menu layout and always wished for a CHTEditor grid type layout. Can't wait to try it out!
EDIT: Tried it out and love it. On my HD2, pressing the hard Start button seems to confuse it for a few seconds and then nothing. The soft Start button works fine and the app is VERY good in general. Like others have said, it would be perfect for me if the hard button worked or could be mapped, the scrolling speed was increased and folder creation.
Excellent job!

Can you do a 4 column version also?
Plus 1 for folder creation for this menu.
I contacted Cookie once and he said Cookie Manila Start Menu would be on his next release. Seems like you beat him to it

OIY OP FUK YOU.....
but in all seriousness, I offered a bounty both here at XDA and over at PPCG for a CHT or classic WM6.1 StartMenu/Programs for $20...
Keep up the good work, make it (talk to CHT/CHTE) compatible and customizable with CHT/CHTE to be merged into or if you want to keep it alone make it an add-on still for CHT/CHTE (so we can change the columns/row amount/setup)
$20 for the finalized version with customization possibilities (it can do folders?), make that bottom row optional and customizable, Recent Programs or Folders or like Win7 even with the "Pin to StartMenu"
Either way, when done and I can use it reliably $20 is yours (paypal?!)

hi i installed this program and it does saved 10 M ram! thanks a lot!
however i have a few problems. in sense 2.5, the calendar and setting tabs dissappeared.
i also try to map this program to a hardware key, but can't seem to find the shortcut to the app. can you tell me where to find it?
thanks for helping!!!

[REQUEST] A real Startmenu replacement ( WM startmenu is RAM hungry!!!)

Hi everyone, I am a cooker ( doing great things, but mainly a noob one compared to some masters out there ) .
Cooking on the Omnia I900 & Acer S200 ( french rom only), these devices have low memory.
For example the acer S200 only has 256mb of ram, but mainly the same hardware than the powerful HD2(except ram....:-( )
Arto ( great cooker of the Acer S200 scene ) has found that removing the start menu completely gains 15mb Ram on our devices ( by fooling the system with empty .cpr grid, icons caches aren't generated.)
This can help people make really light roms!!! The main problem now is the we don't have here a real startmenu alternative, a eye candy one than keep the spirit of our devices... Quickmenu is functionnal but not too beautiful.
After many searches over xda, the only thing I found was Quickmenu and the sense Startmenu replacement ( I modded the kenia1234 startmenu replacement to give it 5 columns, here is the work : 5 columns start sense2.5 menu replacement )
I don't know why developper aren't interested in making a real , fast and beautiful startmenu replacement ( with full fonctionnality, at least control panel wikth .cpl files abilty, and even more folder architecture, fullscreen, lightweight ),
but here is the request or that, If others than me are interested, please reply and tell your needs, to help developpers...
Something like Panoramic Launchpad would be great!

Last week I started creating a startmenu alternative. It's very underdeveloped, and I have no idea when it's finished, but to give you an idea I attached two screenshots.
It still lacks a couple of features (if someone can point me in the right direction, please do so ):
- no control panel items yet
- no icon transparency (I got that working, but it was horribly slow)
- no background (because of the lack of transparency)
- no hook on the hardware windows key (like quickmenu)
- no hook on the software start button (like ameba does on winmo 6.5.x)
- if there's no png file attached to a link, no icon is displayed
But the other basics are working:
- starting programs by clicking (yes I know, very basic )
- flipping pages by swyping your finger (left->right, right->left, up->down, down->up)
- opening folders, and going back up one level with the left soft button (just like the usual start menu)
I actually started this because I'm not a fan of the hexagon grid styled start menu, not because of memory issues. I did take a look at the current memory usage of my start menu, and currently it is 1.41MB. But that will grow with more icons and transparency I guess.
If you're interested I can continue developing this startmenu.

The most important thing to me is ram usage, the lower it is the best it is,
the png file limitation to display an icon should be reconsidered, the ability to display native icon is much more important, or, much easily to program, you can make your app request the "HKLM\Security\StartInfo\Start\myprog.lnk" key to read the icon you should display, if nothing is entered, lets just start the native icon.
This is important to make your startmenu replacement user friendly. nobody likes assigning manually an icon to an app, having the ability to do it is good, but the most important for the users is that your program automaticaly displays the native icon like the start menu does.
To use cpl, you just have to use a ctlpnl.exe command line, like this :
ctpnl.exe mycpl.cpl
if cpl has multiple tab, ctpnl.exe mycpl.cpl,1 ( where the number is the tab you want to be open)
for cpl files, I thinks its the big part of the job :-(

What I meant with:
- if there's no png file attached to a link, no icon is displayed
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My program uses the icons set in HKLM\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start, but if it's an older program, there might not be a high resolution icon, and in that case I won't display any icon. That's something I will fix ofcourse.
I'll have a look at the cpl files, and I guess google will help me there as well.
Also looking for a way to show my startmenu instead of the winmo startmenu, but no luck so far. If anybody knows how to catch when the winmo startmenu is activated in c#, please let me know.

Hi guys
Have you ever heard of iPhoneToday http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633618 ? It's so light and configurable

XTask has a good looking, light start menu replacement.
If you leave out the start_icon.png's, then the native icons are used. The 6.5 start menu also slows down boot time dramatically. Just delete all the shortcuts, soft reset, and check the millisecondtoidlethread in hkcu/performance. Boot time may be 20-30 seconds faster.

vinvv said:
Last week I started creating a startmenu alternative. It's very underdeveloped, and I have no idea when it's finished, but to give you an idea I attached two screenshots.
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If you're interested I can continue developing this startmenu.
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This certainly looks very interesting! Please continue, I also hate the honeycomb (as many people around).

I like this
vinvv said:
What I meant with:
My program uses the icons set in HKLM\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start, but if it's an older program, there might not be a high resolution icon, and in that case I won't display any icon. That's something I will fix ofcourse.
I'll have a look at the cpl files, and I guess google will help me there as well.
Also looking for a way to show my startmenu instead of the winmo startmenu, but no luck so far. If anybody knows how to catch when the winmo startmenu is activated in c#, please let me know.
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Hi m8
I also hate the startmenu but this is cose it eats arround 30mb of ram...
There is a way to disable the default startmenu ....
Look this post its working fine on Blackstone NRG roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7911317&postcount=16270
I just dont like the replacement menu or the quickmenu
Your app can be assigned to startmenu button with ameba
If can i help with your project on this just let know

Also keep in mind that many shells (Throttle Launcher, Mobile Shell etc) read the data to load program shortcuts from the start menu, so that the replacement has to take care of that too.

what do you think about wisbar 4? would this be an alternative to quick menu? i was using this prog. a year ago and i was totaly impressed. now i use it again together with the new energy rom from august 28. after the replacement from the start menu i have real nice and fast blackstone