I should hopefully be getting my desire this weekend but my tariff change wont come in to effect till next month and my current tariff only gets me free data usage in the evening and weekends.
So is it easy enough to configure the phone not to automatically update anything itself as I don't want to run up a expensive bill with it using data during the day.
Does the data widget (slider one with mobile under) just mean 3g connection? Or is this the one I need to just keep turned off during the day?
The mobile data widget disables any cellular data connections (2G or 3G don't really enter into it, both are cellular data connections).
Using the widget to turn "mobile" off means that the phone won't create a data connection, hence no charges.
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I have just got my Touch Pro 2, and have a question to ask, if i manually connect to the weather app, the small g logo comes up next to the big G, meaning im using the connection, but after the weather has finished updating the small g is still present and i have to turn it off via the start, settings, communications, data connection route, am i being charged for this connection? As when i look at my notifications tabs it is running constantly going up by the second.
Many thanks
Paul
the G means that a GPRS connection has been established, which is a data connection. Unlike a voice connection, you won't get charged per minute but you're either paying for the amount of data downloaded (some amount per MB usually), or paying a fixed sum per month. Check your subscription plan for more details.
I am with vodafone in the UK, and get 500mb free every month, so if the two g's are on the screen, i will only be using some of my data bundle, when i am downloading something, not when there is a connection established??
does that make sense??
paulbadassbriant said:
I am with vodafone in the UK, and get 500mb free every month, so if the two g's are on the screen, i will only be using some of my data bundle, when i am downloading something, not when there is a connection established??
does that make sense??
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yes exactly, you are only charged when you download. NOT for being connected.
I seem to be having some problem with my HSDPA connection on my desire. I'm wih Three UK and I can't tell is it is my network on the phone.
What happened is for some reason it just wont work anywhere I go. For the first few weeks its worked fine and then towards the end of last month they sent me texts saying they would cut my internet off if I carry on using it but I can't see that having anything to do with it as it is a new month.
The phone is rooted and I've flash the new DeFrOsT Rom (2.0a) and it started working again but then when I logged into the Facebook app it stopped working and went to R (also the wholetime I'm connected to a wifi and when I disconnect from wifi I still get the no connection).
I tried uninstalling Facebook and logging out and no luck
I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this or it is happening to them or you know a fix.
I also attached some screenshots of the message I get, I can't actually read the full message as it cuts it off and then when you select it, it just takes you to the homepage.
the R is for roaming
how is the signal strength where you're located?
go into settings -> wireless and networks ->
tell me what roaming settings you have enabled
untick the box to allow data roaming
data roaming will take place when the signal strength is very low and you are therefore using other carrier's networks (this might also incur high data costs!)
Data roaming is disabled and the signal in my area is usually quite good. Also when I go into a city around here or anywhere nothing changes it still sticks on R.
Plus before I started to flash it with roms and rooted it, it would nearly always have HSDPA connection.
so although data roaming is disabled your phone is roaming...
can i ask why it is that 3 told you that they will disable your internet? this seems to be the main problem...
have you tried flashing a different radio?
this will definitely have some change
They sent a text I was reaching/reached my data allowance for the month (so called unlimited =/)
And yeah I've just flashed the new radio that is needed for defrost 2.0a however it did happen before I flashed it.
For some reason it has got proper signal and HSDPA for the time being and as far as I know I did nothing to make it any better.
Got a feeling it will go again but I'll keep you updated.
I'll have to ring three up tomorrow if I can't get it sorted as I'm going on holiday and I'll be screwed with out it,
sounds to me like you have a data cap where if you exceed a certain limit your internet is stopped.
the fact that you are in roaming makes me think that it is a trick so that 3 can charge you large amounts so be careful.
glad the radio update worked for you
let us know if the problem persists
although there's not much we can do unless we know it's been sorted with your provider.
Thanks for the help.
The thing I don't get is the roaming bit as when it says I'm roaming I can make calls and text fine and there is no charge or anything on my bill it just uses normal minutes
honestly it sounds to me like a problem with your provider
does it still say roaming with the new radio?
if it does then phone your provider because they can charge you a large amount for roaming
Three only run a 3G network in the UK. To provide coverage and data connectivity (mainly EDGE) in the areas between their masts they partner with Orange. Your Desire will roam onto the Orange (and possibly now T-Mobile since they merged on Monday) network when it has a weak or no 3G signal. To allow data in these circumstances you must have data when roaming enabled.
There is no additional charge for 3 customers to use data roaming while in the UK. It is part of your monthly bundle. However, please remember to turn data roaming back off when you travel abroad or it'll cost you a fortune!
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+1 for the above, roaming is all well and good but of you leave it on when your on holiday youll definately remember it!
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Three only run a 3G network in the UK. To provide coverage and data connectivity (mainly EDGE) in the areas between their masts they partner with Orange. Your Desire will roam onto the Orange (and possibly now T-Mobile since they merged on Monday) network when it has a weak or no 3G signal. To allow data in these circumstances you must have data when roaming enabled.
There is no additional charge for 3 customers to use data roaming while in the UK. It is part of your monthly bundle. However, please remember to turn data roaming back off when you travel abroad or it'll cost you a fortune!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Thanks I didn't realise I could use data roaming as when I clicked to enable it it said I may be charged so I didn't bother but now I will as I wont get charged
I was just about to say that the original problem had gone but it's decided to happen again just as I tried to log into ebay and download something from the market. However I think it has started to use data roaming as there is now an R in the signal box but a G next to it where the H would be.
Think I'll be ringing them up today
As I mentioned in my earlier thread I recently bought a Motorola Defy. Like many other users that I read about before purchasing my first android smartphone I was not able to open Google Market app after a factory reset.
My hint is based on my own experience and I hope it serves someone else well with similar issue.
As I write this message I have no data plan on my contract and I intend to use wireless connection for emailing, internet browsing, and the Market app. Once I completed the initial setup I put my handset's network mode to 2G only. I was worried to be charged for accessing data on 3G.
I had no problem using the Market app initially over the wireless connection until I did a refactory reset to re-setup my handset properly second time round. It was then the Market app stopped working and not even a master reset resolves the problem and then I was considering to root the handset to remove certain folders as a solution to the problem.
Everytime I laucnhed the Market app it stuck at Terms and Services page. It then occurred to me to change the network mode to Automatic and switch off the wireless connection to see what would happen. Next time I laucnhed the Market app it took me straight to the market's home page. It took me two days to figure this out : (
Once I was in the market I switched the network mode back to 2G only and turned on the wireless again. Everything is working just fine now. For the porpose of this thread I powered off the handset and turned it on again to see if my last settings i.e. 2G only still launches the Market app successfully or not. I can confirm that the Market app works just fine over the wireless connection just fine with 2G only network mode.
BTW, the batter life of this handset is so impressive. I used it one and half day very extensively (over 20 times of restarting the handset alone) and I was very surprised lasted that long. On moderate use and proper battery management (no widgets, no 24 wireless connection), and putting it on air plane mode at nights I would get over 2.5 days before charging is required.
I can't wait for Android 2.2 release to make this handset even more productive for me : )
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As I write this message I have no data plan on my contract and I intend to use wireless connection for emailing, internet browsing, and the Market app. Once I completed the initial setup I put my handset's network mode to 2G only. I was worried to be charged for accessing data on 3G.
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I think you may have a misconception of 2G versus 3G. They are different technologies. When your phone is in 2G mode, it uses one type of network for both voice and data. In 3G mode it uses another type which provides better voice quality and faster data speeds.
Either way your phone will still try to access data unless you turn off mobile data. If it's in 2G mode and you see the little "E" icon up in the notification area, it's still accessing mobile data - just at a slower rate.
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I think you may have a misconception of 2G versus 3G. They are different technologies. When your phone is in 2G mode, it uses one type of network for both voice and data. In 3G mode it uses another type which provides better voice quality and faster data speeds.
Either way your phone will still try to access data unless you turn off mobile data. If it's in 2G mode and you see the little "E" icon up in the notification area, it's still accessing mobile data - just at a slower rate.
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Thank you for your inputs. I'm very new in the world of smartphones but learning fast.
I searched around to find out how to disable Mobile data and chosen this method *#*#4636#*#* and changed my network type to GSM for best coverage and battery life now. I can confirm the Masrket app still works with wireless connection.
Changing to GSM only does not disable mobile data.
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Changing to GSM only does not disable mobile data.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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I disabled the Mobile Data option by pressing the Settings button then More>Disable Mobile Data. It was then I noticed the options for changing my network type beyond just 2G and 3G.
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I disabled the Mobile Data option by pressing the Settings button then More>Disable Mobile Data. It was then I noticed the options for changing my network type beyond just 2G and 3G.
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Did that work then? You no longer connect with mobile date, I'm asking because I have now ordered my Defy but like you don't have a network plan so need a workaround.
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I disabled the Mobile Data option by pressing the Settings button then More>Disable Mobile Data. It was then I noticed the options for changing my network type beyond just 2G and 3G.
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Right ok, thanks for clarifying
In Froyo there is a mobile data toggle in the regular menus, and on all Sense phones too. Is there one on Blur phones? I guess not.
Another way to block data is to go to your APN list and fudge the entry (e.g. change epc.tmobile.com to epc.tmobile.com.nodata).
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Did that work then? You no longer connect with mobile date, I'm asking because I have now ordered my Defy but like you don't have a network plan so need a workaround.
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The only way I can assure you I have successfully disabled Mobile Data by looking at the reception icon in notification bar that no longer displays G, H, E, and 3G at anytime.
I have a data connection with limited mb, I am feeling that if I switch off data connection but left 3g switch on, my remaining mbs are used.
Anyone experienced a similar issue?
Not me, I leave data and 3g on and has only racked up 66.8mb for this month and my bill is due in a few days. Surf the web occasionally, and have all my email (4 accounts) set on 1hour, except my main account which is 30min.
Thanks but, if you have data connection = off and 3g = on, will the device waste your plan MBs?
No because you wont be using any data cause the data connection is off
In the current version of WP7, Data connection = 3G data so if you have
settings > Cellular > Data connection = OFF then your 3G data plan will not be used.
I am on the 200MB ATT plan but I leave my 3G data always ON and still have not used more than 15MB in the past week. I have 2 email accounts (gmail, hotmail) with auto sync ON and the Yahoo account set to MANUAL SYNC which I only sync on WiFi
FYI: 3G isn't just used for data, but also for voice and text.
3G incorporates better encryption and security than say standard GSM and 2G, hence why phone companies tend to try and use 3G/H if possible as it better protects the end user.
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In the current version of WP7, Data connection = 3G data so if you have
settings > Cellular > Data connection = OFF then your 3G data plan will not be used.
I am on the 200MB ATT plan but I leave my 3G data always ON and still have not used more than 15MB in the past week. I have 2 email accounts (gmail, hotmail) with auto sync ON and the Yahoo account set to MANUAL SYNC which I only sync on WiFi
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Thanks everyone! I am much more relaxed now.
I investigated where my mb did go, and I think was a celullar operator failure because the friday I have used like 14 mb in less than a minute in several connections 1.6mb -> 2mb -> 2mb ... the same minute.
Very obscure issue, but tomorrow I will call the support to get more info.
I think I managed to say a lot of money by going with a low data plan, but they're telling me the android is going to constantly ping the Internet using up all the data allowance. Is there a way to disable the data functionality when I don't want it (like turning off wireless on a laptop)? When I'm connected to a Wi-Fi network, does it automatically use the local network instead of data minutes? If not, how can I make it do that.
I was able to find my data usage on my.t-mobile.com and verify that as long as Wi-fi is available, it will use it instead of the data plan. I was also able to confirm through another test that images in text messages don't count on the data plan, but under texts instead.
This is good. Now I have to find out how to tell if applications are pinging the network on their own or not.
yes indeed