Li-Ion or Li-Po? - Desire General

Hey guys,
Was curious as to whether our batteries were Li-Ion or Li-Polymer. So I Google'd it and a few places including a pdf from htc state that they have a li-ion OR li-polymer batter.
I checked my battery and it says Li-Ion, what about you guys?

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3800mAh Extended battery only showing 1750mAh

With battery monitor widget app it shows that the extended 3800mAh battery is only 1750mAh, the same as the stock battery.
Is this the real mAh of the battery or is there some reason that all batteries just show the same mAh?
rtardedman said:
With battery monitor widget app it shows that the extended 3800mAh battery is only 1750mAh, the same as the stock battery.
Is this the real mAh of the battery or is there some reason that all batteries just show the same mAh?
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Firstly if it is a cheap china 3800 mAh battery its quite possible that it only has 1750 capacity, however i would suggest clearing the data and cache for the battery monitor app and allowing the battery to fully charge then almost fully drain to see what the capacity is.

[Q] why does it take too long to charge our HOX

it takes around 3.5 hours to charge the one x from 0 to 100 % and it takes the galaxy s3 around 2 hours,,,knowing that the s3
has a bigger battery (2100 mah) and the one x has a (1800 mah) and they both use 1 amp charger,, why does it then take the hox much longer to charge??
yes i require htc to explain, because physics says 1800mAh/1000mA = 1.8hours which i didnt see so far. I'm assuming its a calibration problem and we are all overcharging our batteries.
That's not what physics says.
Only the first hour or so is constant current, after that it becomes constant voltage and the charge current goes down.
3 hours is.about normal charge time for a lithium ion battery, faster than that shortens its life.
Yes you are right the voltage difference greatly drops esp when battery reaches 90%, but i still feel my HOX takes much longer than all my other phones to charge.
HOX's battery is Li-ion Polymer. Other phones use Lithium Ion battery.
Fast charge is not so good and over charged is seriously problem with Li-ion Polymer. So, to protect your battery, HTC do not use fast charge method as well as they control the charging especially low-down the charging current when the battery reach 90%. If you use battery monitor widget to test, you will see that you could charge the battery overnight without any problem, the current some time being zero.
Don't worry man, it is normal and it is the best way for you phone.
snipervn said:
HOX's battery is Li-ion Polymer. Other phones use Lithium Ion battery.
Fast charge is not so good and over charged is seriously problem with Li-ion Polymer. So, to protect your battery, HTC do not use fast charge method as well as they control the charging especially low-down the charging current when the battery reach 90%. If you use battery monitor widget to test, you will see that you could charge the battery overnight without any problem, the current some time being zero.
Don't worry man, it is normal and it is the best way for you phone.
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Nah, Lithium Ion and Lithium Ion Polymer are about the same. I had LiPo battery in my Nokia 7110 from 1999 (BPS-1). They're hardly new.
BenPope said:
Nah, Lithium Ion and Lithium Ion Polymer are about the same. I had LiPo battery in my Nokia 7110 from 1999 (BPS-1). They're hardly new.
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check this pls:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667117
I am RC Player and I have some experiences with Li-Ion and Li-Po, it is quite different. I could charge the Li-Ion with normal charger (same as Ni-Cd or Ni-MH) but for the Li-po, I have to use computerize charger (or at least charger with balance unit) to control the current, time....
snipervn said:
check this pls:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667117
I am RC Player and I have some experiences with Li-Ion and Li-Po, it is quite different. I could charge the Li-Ion with normal charger (same as Ni-Cd or Ni-MH) but for the Li-po, I have to use computerize charger (or at least charger with balance unit) to control the current, time....
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I did contribute to thread you posted.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
"Charging Li‑ion polymer, also referred as Li-polymer, is very similar to a regular lithium-ion battery and no changes in algorithm are necessary."
I don't think you should charge Li ion battery with NiCd/NiMH charger, it'll damage them.
So there is no clear answer for this??
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tell4ever said:
So there is no clear answer for this??
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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The clear answer is that Samsung have traded battery longevity against charge time. This makes sense, the battery is user replaceable.
Normal Li Ion charge times are around 3 hours without significantly reducing battery life over time. If the battery is in use, expect it to take a little longer.

[Q] \\ Charging the first time

i just got the phone yesterday (att) i charged the first time in 4hours , is that okay cause people told me that i needed to charge in +8 hours ,and now do i have to use the phone to die completely and charge it again or just need to low battery ? sr for my bad English
kevintran.98 said:
i just got the phone yesterday (att) i charged the first time in 4hours , is that okay cause people told me that i needed to charge in +8 hours ,and now do i have to use the phone to die completely and charge it again or just need to low battery ? sr for my bad English
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here is the answer for your question:
Lithium-Ion - Li-ion batteries are the newer type of battery that are found it most newer cell phones (most definitely most, if not all, smartphones use Li-ion and many "dumbphones" use them too now). Li-ion can be thought of as "smarter" than NiCad batteries; Li-ion batteries don't suffer from the "memory effect" and thus don't need to be conditioned like NiCad batteries.
Rather, to condition a new Li-ion battery, fully charge it; it should be allowed to charge for 7-8 hours on the first, initial charge. In other words, when you get your new cell phone - and it has a Li-ion battery - allow it to charge for 7-8 hours even if the cell phone claims to be fully charged. (It is preferable to use outlet charger vs car charger or USB charging via computer because of the voltage difference.) After that, there is no reconditioning necessary for Li-ion batteries since they don't suffer from the "memory effect". However, be sure to avoid fully draining/discharging the Li-ion battery as much as possible; every time a Li-ion battery is fully discharged, it loses battery power and life. (That doesn't mean your battery will die if it is ever fully discharged; it means it is best to avoid fully discharging when possible.) Try to recharge Li-ion batteries when they are at 15-25%. Similarly, avoid heat as much as possible and when (if) storing Li-ion batteries, store them not at full charge.
Update: The only time you should ever intentionally fully discharge a Li-ion battery is if your phone is not properly reading the battery. In other words, if you go from 100% -> 90% in ten minutes but go from 90% -> 80% in one hour with the same amount of usage, that means your phone is not reading the battery output evenly. If this is the case, then fully discharging your battery once and then recharging it can fix the issue of your phone not reading the battery properly. Take note, however, this full discharge/recharge won't increase your battery life -- it will only ensure your phone reads the battery properly.
People often confuse Li-ion and NiCad batteries and try to condition Li-ion batteries by charging/discharging them 4-6 times. Trying to condition a Li-ion battery like it is a NiCad battery (i.e. charging/discharging the Li-ion battery 4-6 times) hurts the Li-ion battery more than helps it. So, be sure to condition your new cell phone's battery, but be sure to condition it properly. Otherwise, you may be doing more harm than good. If you are not sure what type of battery you have, read the labels on the battery - they will always say whether the battery is Lithium-ion or Nickel-cadmium. Good luck and may we all have long lasting batteries.
p.s. i got my one x yesterday too and is most beatiful phone in the world

[Q] Testing battery

I want to know what mAh capacity my HOX can retain after fully charged. The full capacity is 1800 when new, but this eventually degrades after hundreds of charging cycles. What is the service code for this info? Or is there an app that can do this. On my laptop HP battery check gives me all the info I can ever need.

Li-ion or Li-Po

What kind of a battery this phone has? I don't get this,
http://www.gsmarena.com/micromax_canvas_a1-6686.php
this site says it has Li-ion and CPU-Z says the same thing but the battery says (physically printed) it has a Li-polymer battery?
This phone has a Li-Po battery remove the back cover and look at that. Infact Li-PO battery is slimmer than its LI-Po counterparts:thumbup::thumbup:

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