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I read somewhere that the HD2 supports bluetooth keyboards. Does anyone know if it's the same with the EVO?
Maybe, I hope so because I intend on testing it with an apple wireless keyboard
Not natively, but it should work with third party driver/apps like KeyPro.
Sweet I have my Apple Keyboard and Mouse.
I have heard a rumor that the Incredible does not support BlueInput (because of an older BT stack implemented by HTC) like-wise the EVO. I would be unhappy given the lack of a physical keyboard on the phone.
http://www.teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2414
That was the same error I was getting on my Sprint Hero, but the KeyPro guys made a version of the drivers that worked anyway. I think they can do the same if the EVO has the same issue.
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That was the same error I was getting on my Sprint Hero, but the KeyPro guys made a version of the drivers that worked anyway. I think they can do the same if the EVO has the same issue.
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Unfortunately it may be more OS related than a BlueInput problem.. Either way it would appear we arent getting HID anytime soon.
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/91/p/2201/8561.aspx
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Unfortunately it may be more OS related than a BlueInput problem.. Either way it would appear we arent getting HID anytime soon.
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/91/p/2201/8561.aspx
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Mmm, so that explains why Wiimote Controller does not work on "devices running Sense"
FYI, using a beta version of KeyPro I was able to connect my Freedom Universal Keyboard 2 to the EVO, but the keyboard mappings were off. I've contacted the developer of KeyPro (who has been very responsive to tweaking the app for Sprint Hero support), I'm pretty sure this is something they can resolve.
Will report back...
My bad, I forgot to change the keyboard type in the KeyPro options - it works GREAT with the EVO!
Good stuff! Thanks for the notice!
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My bad, I forgot to change the keyboard type in the KeyPro options - it works GREAT with the EVO!
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With what keyboard?
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...I was able to connect my Freedom Universal Keyboard 2...
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It's a pretty nice keyboard. http://www.freedominput.com/technical-support/technical-support/universal-keyboards
I should note, it provides for good text entry and some hotkey functions, but it seems that much of Android's interface isn't accessible via these kinds of devices. You are still going to have to poke at your screen to do some things. Bluetooth mouse support would make this a bit easier...
I use the v-tech virtual keyboard via KeyPro. Works quite well.
Ceger
What did you do that I can't figure out?
I've spent the best part of 8 hours trying to get my Freedom Universal 2 keyboard to connect using Keypro. The developer said not to bother purchasing the key if I couldn't get the keyboard working without it. Were you able to get it working on the trial version? Or did you have to purchase the key? I've managed to get the keyboard paired but not connected. Thanks for any tips / pointers.
Are you using the beta version from the keypro forum? The one they cooked up for the hero works for me. Which ROM are you running, and what are the symptoms of your connection problem?
The version I've been trying to get working is Keypro 2.00.08 trial.
Android version 2.2
The phone appears to pair with the keyboard when the keyboard is set to SPP, but not in HID, but they never actually connect. I've not yet been able to use the keyboard or assign shortcuts using Keypro. Thanks.
I was counting on using my think outside Serria full size folding bluetooth to work, ltd proving tto be difficult so far.
This was and perhaps is one of best keyboards but it don't matter if it doesn't even connect
Any one have an approach they could suggest?
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The version I've been trying to get working is Keypro 2.00.08 trial.
Android version 2.2
The phone appears to pair with the keyboard when the keyboard is set to SPP, but not in HID, but they never actually connect. I've not yet been able to use the keyboard or assign shortcuts using Keypro. Thanks.
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I recently purchased the Freedom Pro keyboard from Amazon. I figured if I could not get it to work, I could send it back to Amazon. I originally tried to use the keypro apk, but was unsuccessful. Then I downloaded the android driver from the Keyboard site, that also would connect, but not pair. I then downloaded the instruction manual and followed their directions. Still no success. Then I got the bright idea of shutting down the phone, and then trying to pair my Evo to the keyboard. Success!!!! You click on the connected part of the driver software (read the installation manual) and this time it connected. There is an area on the driver you can use to check and see if you are connected. My Evo is unrooted (since 2.2). This has replaced my laptop for on-the-go business related work.
After pairing, it said that it is paired but not connect
I have tried some different ROMs and i found that only the CM7 supports the wireless keyboard, but i really like the Sense UI.
btw, i have tried all the apps on the market that may help to use such a HID, none of them works. and i found that here(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715913) they gave a solution for Desire, i also do that since i think the android of these two are similar, it still not works.
Would be nice yes...! never tried pairing a keyboard though...
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After pairing, it said that it is paired but not connect
I have tried some different ROMs and i found that only the CM7 supports the wireless keyboard, but i really like the Sense UI.
btw, i have tried all the apps on the market that may help to use such a HID, none of them works. and i found that here(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715913) they gave a solution for Desire, i also do that since i think the android of these two are similar, it still not works.
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hi any luck withe the keyboard
Have not paired any keyboard yet. But I did pair a mouse on the ICS ROM by Lord.
It works amazingly with on-screen pointer.
Also the sense ROMs may not support bluetooth KeyBoard because HTC's Bluetooth stack doesn't support them.
In Cyanogenmod you can flawlessy pair with a Bluetooth Keyboard, I use one of those mini-keyboards daily, it's awesome
I'm thinking of upgrading to this phone, one of the main reasons is that my current device, which has galaxy S guts, is not compatible with most bluetooth devices. I like to use an app called blueputdroid that turns my phone into a universal keyboard as well as an ELM bluetooth device that turns my phone into a dyno along with the torque app for my car.
For some reason the way samsung built the bluetooth makes it not work with a lot of these things, I know it's not the apps or 3rd party devices as I use my old G1 now for it, but would much rather just have my main phone be my one device.
Have any of you tested blueputdroid or any bluetooth devices? If not could someone try out blueputdroid with this phone (it's free in the market) any help would be much appreciated thanx!!
Says it has detected unsupported Bluetooth stack.. Install cyanogen Rom, etc.
Thanks, at least this phone is likely to get cyanogenmod support which will fix the problem my SK sure as hell won't
My GS2 works perfect with my ELM adapter. It worked perfect with my Vibrant too. I've never had a single problem with any bluetooth device on either of them.
I've had a lot of bluetooth problems with both my vibrant and now my GS2. Both work reliably with my wife's mini cooper bluetooth but they both have had problems connecting to the garmin nuvi I use for handsfree in my car (and forget about the A2DP on it).
I tried a lot of roms on my vibrant (incl stock) and they did lots of cool stuff but never made the BT connect reliably. Then I came across this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795691
I made the suggested change to /system/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf and voila! I finally have good BT with my vibrant.
So I got my SG2 last week, rooted it and found that it also had the bad settings in /system/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf. However it also lacked BLN (backlight notification) and few other tweaks I've come to love on my vibrant so I flashed juggernaut 2.6. That fixed all the major foibles with the SG2 but it still won't reliably connect to my garmin.
I opened up the filesystem to find that /system/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf is no longer there! Does anyone know where it went?
Apparently I don't have enough posts to ask in the dev forum where juggernaut was posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1322642 so I'm hoping someone will see this plee for help.
thanks
the phone has BT 3.0, but it is backward compatible with BT 2.0 and 1.0 devices
i haven't had any trouble using it with my car deck (streaming audio & phone), my large collection of stereo BT devices, and other BT enabled phones & PCs/Laptops
the remote control feature from the stereo headsets works properly, for fast forward, backward, play, pause, talk, mute, etc
the only thing i have yet need to test BT on is with a BT smart wrist watch
Hi all, I just bought a COD (TM) Bluetooth Keyboard Stand from Amazon. The stand is great, but the bluetooth keyboard keep losing its connection, even when I'm typing.
What could be the cause? Does anyone know how to fix this? Your help is much appreciated.
EDIT :
Try this to fix your BT problems .
Go to settings > Connections > Bluetooth > Hit menu button > Visibility Timeout > and change it to Never
Thanks to Geordie Affy.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi all, I just bought a COD (TM) Bluetooth Keyboard Stand from Amazon. The stand is great, but the bluetooth keyboard keep losing its connection, even when I'm typing.
What could be the cause? Does anyone know how to fix this? Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Try disabling the onscreen keyboard when connected to bluetooth. Some have reported this to help. I do not know for sure as I dont have BT Keyboard yet. There is some talk in one of the threads here about it. I dont remember where ATM but will look again for it and post a link to it if I can find it. Otherwise you can search in the threads for it here yourself
Here is the link I mentioned:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2526070
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Try disabling the onscreen keyboard when connected to bluetooth. Some have reported this to help. I do not know for sure as I dont have BT Keyboard yet. There is some talk in one of the threads here about it. I dont remember where ATM but will look again for it and post a link to it if I can find it. Otherwise you can search in the threads for it here yourself
Here is the link I mentioned:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2526070
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Thanks for your reply. I tried this trick with no luck. It automatically switch back to Samsung keyboard after 2 second. Grrrrr...very annoying
Google "android 4.3 bluetooth keyboard". Android 4.3 breaks most bluetooth keyboards and it appears Google has no desire to fix it with 4.4 out now. There are fixes out there but they involve rooting and voiding your warranty on this tablet. I think those of us who use bt keyboards and want a warranty will just have to wait for Samsung to roll out 4.4.
I almost returned the tablet over this but I get enough out of it that I'll wait. Hopefully they'll roll out 4.4 soon.
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Google "android 4.3 bluetooth keyboard". Android 4.3 breaks most bluetooth keyboards and it appears Google has no desire to fix it with 4.4 out now. There are fixes out there but they involve rooting and voiding your warranty on this tablet. I think those of us who use bt keyboards and want a warranty will just have to wait for Samsung to roll out 4.4.
I almost returned the tablet over this but I get enough out of it that I'll wait. Hopefully they'll roll out 4.4 soon.
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I use my Samsung BT keyboard for hours on end and have never had a single issue with it. If BT is on, my N10.1-14 auto-connects when I turn on my BT keyboard and disables the onscreen keyboard. Samsung doesn't use Android's stock BT stack so any problems in generic Android wouldn't affect their devices. There are quite a few people here that aren't having issues with BT keyboards which would lead me to believe that it's the keyboards that some people are using that are causing issues. Interestingly, I had issues with the same keyboard I'm using now on my N10.1-12 where it would fight with the onscreen keyboard and randomly pop-up accented characters if I typed something like an "a" and left my finger on the key too long. It drove me crazy and I don't have any of those issues with the N10.1-14.
It's not clear exactly what the problem is, but here are a couple of observations, from what I've noticed:
- In some cases, the problem may be related to conflicts with other apps installed. The problem became much less noticeable after i uninstalled MightyText. May be coincidence, but I definitely see a big improvement. I still get an occasional disconnect with the Logitech K810, at most once every half hour of so. When MightyText was installed, I got disconnected every couple minutes.
- I also have a Samsung BT keyboard. I very rarely get disconnects with the Samsung KB.
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I'd like to know where it was published that Samsung isn't using the stock Android BT stack? I've tried numerous keyboards that work with my desktop, iphone, and original GN 10.1 without any issue whatsoever, but are useless with this tablet. All of the symptoms are consistent with what others have reported on android 4.3. Hard to imagine that being a coincidence. Glad you found one keyboard that works. We can add it to the (short) list of ones that do.
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I'd like to know where it was published that Samsung isn't using the stock Android BT stack? I've tried numerous keyboards that work with my desktop, iphone, and original GN 10.1 without any issue whatsoever, but are useless with this tablet. All of the symptoms are consistent with what others have reported on android 4.3. Hard to imagine that being a coincidence. Glad you found one keyboard that works. We can add it to the (short) list of ones that do.
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Kind of simple really. BT's been broken in AOSP since 4.2.
Bluetooth Is Basically Broken
Known affected devices: Nexus 10, Nexus 7, Galaxy Nexus.
Documented? Android bugs [1] [2], XDA [1] [2], Google+.
We've already received numerous emails about this issue, and I've confirmed it myself: Bluetooth on everything but the Nexus 4 (apparently) is in an absolutely sorry state right now. Audio streams extremely choppily, sounds mediocre, and often loses connectivity entirely. 3rd party Bluetooth apps that create compatibility with devices like the Sixaxis or Wii controllers no longer function at all, and throw an error instead.
This is bad. This is the kind of thing that makes someone return a phone or tablet, because A.) people have no patience for stuff like this, and B.) there's zero reason something as simple as Bluetooth should be broken so badly out of the box. Google needs to mark this one "critical" and fix it ASAP.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...major-issues-plaguing-googles-newest-release/
Samsung's 4.2 devices weren't affected which means they had to be using either their own BT s/w or made major modifications to BT in AOSP. As for a "short list," how do we know it's of "working" peripheral's vs. "broken" peripheral's? I've only seen about a half-dozen BT connectivity complaints and really wasn't aware of the problem until it was pointed out to me in another thread. In my case I have about six BT devices I use regularly including speakers, headphones, mice, and keyboards and if asked I'd say they work better on the N10.1-14 then they did on the N10.1-12. I'd define "better" as connecting faster automatically, staying connected, and playing well with others when multiple BT devices are connected. To your point, I could be the anomaly but as posted in this and other threads disabling the onscreen keyboard and checking for conflicting s/w seems to have helped some people so it wouldn't appear BT issues are that widespread (yet).
I agree that the onscreen keyboard adds much to the frustration, as it's default behavior mimics the problems folks have been reporting on other 4.3 devices. Most of what I've come across cites keyboard issues that many have experienced immediately after upgrading to 4.3, but that doesn't really meet the requirements of being evidence either. I suppose the only real way to know would be to grab the base android build that Sammy used and compare files.
As for compatibility issues beyond keyboard input, I can't really speak to that, as I only have a few audio devices and one gamepad. It isn't really a large enough sampling to suggest that the entire stack is hosed up. My issues have been entirely related to BT keyboards, so I'm more focused on that.
You mention conflicting software, which brings up a question. Since the BT stack would be considered part of the protected core OS, apps would require root to mess with it, wouldn't they? The six axis app being a good example, as it requires root. To hook the BT stack at a low enough level to add profiles or override existing ones for compatibility isn't something that should be possible with a user level app. I could be off base here and the reports of user apps affecting BT are an interesting coincidence, but I'm not sure I can quite see where the two cross paths. The alternative is surely more concerning, as it would imply that core OS functions in this tablet are somehow exposed to being overridden by user space apps.
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I agree that the onscreen keyboard adds much to the frustration, as it's default behavior mimics the problems folks have been reporting on other 4.3 devices. Most of what I've come across cites keyboard issues that many have experienced immediately after upgrading to 4.3, but that doesn't really meet the requirements of being evidence either. I suppose the only real way to know would be to grab the base android build that Sammy used and compare files.
As for compatibility issues beyond keyboard input, I can't really speak to that, as I only have a few audio devices and one gamepad. It isn't really a large enough sampling to suggest that the entire stack is hosed up. My issues have been entirely related to BT keyboards, so I'm more focused on that.
You mention conflicting software, which brings up a question. Since the BT stack would be considered part of the protected core OS, apps would require root to mess with it, wouldn't they? The six axis app being a good example, as it requires root. To hook the BT stack at a low enough level to add profiles or override existing ones for compatibility isn't something that should be possible with a user level app. I could be off base here and the reports of user apps affecting BT are an interesting coincidence, but I'm not sure I can quite see where the two cross paths. The alternative is surely more concerning, as it would imply that core OS functions in this tablet are somehow exposed to being overridden by user space apps.
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Great post and it touches on one of Android's key weaknesses. "Core" like everything else is nothing but a guideline. OEMs like Samsung and app developers color outside the lines all the time for their own benefit. In Samsung's case it was beneficial because BT in 4.2 was a mess and based on your findings still is so Samsung's meddling helped their audience. Android's kind of like the wild wild West in that regard. Add to that something like BT which itself is kind of like the wild wild West with frequent complaints about incompatibility between devices and you end up with the situation we're discussing. In every phone forum I've seen there's always multiple threads on "can't connect to my [insert brand of car]'s BT system." If the phone and car's BT implementation followed prescribed standards that wouldn't be the case. But who knows who's fault it is - the device OEM or the car manufacturer.
Here's another thing to consider about Samsung devices. ROMs from different regions with the same build and change list number released within days or weeks of each other can have different versions of included apps and s/w. As an example, some users on the N10.1-12 forum couldn't import PDFs in to S Note while the majority could. Those that could successfully imported the same PDFs that those that couldn't were having issues with. With some sleuthing we discovered there were almost a dozen different versions of S Note and that two had the PDF issue. And that was with the N10.1-12 being out for about three months. I'm on a Latin American SM-601 so there's the possibility that my BT might be different from U.S. (and possibly other region) SM-600's.
You might want to try a Samsung BT keyboard that you can return if you want to see if the BT issue is pervasive. If Samsung's KB works then you'll know that BT isn't totally borked and that perhaps updates might correct incompatibility issues with other keyboards.
The OEM customizations necessary to fit android to a particular platform is a necessary part of enabling the OS on vendor specific hardware platforms. I get that part, but replacing the entire stack instead of just creating the kernel driver component would definitely be an aggressive move. If this is the case, I would really be surprised that apps outside of the ones Samsung has written or bundled would be able to interfere with it. Maybe I'm giving samsung too much credit by assuming that they would leave the baseline android security model intact, but to deviate from it that badly is asking for a major vulnerability trainwreck. The inclusion of Knox (I won't get started on that in this thread) would imply that they are trying to prevent such a thing.
I obviously don't have the details necessary to speak decisively about what Samsng May or may not have done, but if what you say is correct and they have inserted some other BT stack, KitKat may not help us either. The stock BT stack in it adds support for HID over GATT (HOGP), enabling A number of BT 4.0 LE devices that currently won't work (MS Arc Touch for Surface Pro, for example). I'm hoping we might see an update to 4.4 in Q1 '14, so it'll be interesting to see how an updated release affects BT functionality.
Anyone try the app external keyboard helper?
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Anyone try the app external keyboard helper?
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I gave the free version a shot but it didn't work. I tried some of the steps listed for Samsumg devices as well but no go...
matsuru said:
Anyone try the app external keyboard helper?
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I tried it as well with no luck. Bluetooth keyboard connection is very intermittent. Connection still broken while typing.
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I have a logitech k810 bluetooth keyboard and have no issues with disconnects, whatsoever. Maybe its a problem with the keyboards trying to conserve energy?
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I have a logiteck k810 bluetooth keyboard and have no issues with disconnects, whatsoever. Maybe its a problem with the keyboards trying to conserve energy?
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Could you describe your device details?
I'm having this problem with logitech k810 keyboard and android mouse. I have the pro version of the keyboard helper and it has no effect.
Here is a video of the issue = http://youtu.be/WlCgFQ0cAO0
It is much worse with the keyboard than the mouse. My Note 3 running android 4.3 has no issue with galaxy gear, keyboard, mouse and allshare cast all connected at once. I expected the same out of this tablet. I may be returning this tablet, I do not find this acceptable.
My device is a 32GB white SM-p600 USA version.
BT problem exists at initial boot, and was tested after each incremental firmware update to still be present.
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Could you describe your device details?
I'm having this problem with logitech k810 keyboard and android mouse. I have the pro version of the keyboard helper and it has no effect.
Here is a video of the issue = http://youtu.be/WlCgFQ0cAO0
It is much worse with the keyboard than the mouse. My Note 3 running android 4.3 has no issue with galaxy gear, keyboard, mouse and allshare cast all connected at once. I expected the same out of this tablet. I may be returning this tablet, I do not find this acceptable.
My device is a 32GB white SM-p600 USA version.
BT problem exists at initial boot, and was tested after each incremental firmware update to still be present.
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I saw your video (nice nicknames for mouse and note btw). I have the USA p600 16GB wifi only - white. I don't have a bluetooth mouse so I can't try that but it seems to work flawlessly with my K810 keyboard with my limited trials. I haven't done any extensive like write a paper but i've done some messaging and emails. Also i've only tried it with the latest firmware. I'd recommend doing a factory reset, and if that doesn't fix it, maybe exchange it for another unit.
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BT problem exists at initial boot, and was tested after each incremental firmware update to still be present.
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Since there's no possible s/w conflicts and I'm assuming you disabled the onscreen keyboard during your testing it might be the keyboard itself. If your keyboard is older/newer than @ChrisNee1988's it might have a different chip or f/w in it. Peripherals aren't built to exacting standards whereas it's unlikely for there to be h/w differences between two SM-600's built so close together.
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Since there's no possible s/w conflicts and I'm assuming you disabled the onscreen keyboard during your testing it might be the keyboard itself. If your keyboard is older/newer than @ChrisNee1988's it might have a different chip or f/w in it. Peripherals aren't built to exacting standards whereas it's unlikely for there to be h/w differences between two SM-600's built so close together.
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The keyboard works great on my note 3 so it's fine.
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Did anyone tried to sucessufuly connect a wiimote to our SM-T800?
From what i've read, its known fact that since 4.2 and the change of the bluetooth stack, the connection between wiimotes and android devices was lost. But since our device is more recent than that, the oldest firware we had was already the 4.4.2 Kit Kat, so it was never suported from the beginning.
I've tried several firmwares, from 4.4 to 6, from the stock version to CM12 or AOSP, and specialized software like Bluez IME, Wiimote Controller or BT USB Joystick Center, and never had luck with pairing (I can pair in CM12 with Bluez IME, but the wiimote just blinks, and no software recognize the controller, so it's pretty much useless).
Obviously this is not a serious problem that affects a community, so i guess that there will never be a dev working for a fix, but if anyone was more sucesseful than me, i would love to know what was his solution. And no, "using a different controller", is not a good answer!
Thanks!