There's this task manager program that is included with the e2 ROM that I have not been able to find anywhere else. It's simple, fast, and to me the best way to switch tasks on WinMo.
\Windows\taskmgr.exe
So I figured I could simply copy the exe out of the Windows dir and stick it on my SD card for use with other ROMS.
Apparently I was wrong.
I cannot for the life of me figure a way to copy this file to any other location. Every time I try to copy it with Total Commander, I get a dialog telling me that a file of the same name with a size of 0 bytes already exists in the destination directory. When I click the overwrite button, it simply says "Unable to copy/move file". Afterwards when checking the destination directory for the reported existence of this file, I find nothing.
When trying to copy it off the phone in desktop Windows explorer, it simply says "Access denied".
I made sure that the file was not currently running before trying to copy.
Some files are able to be copied outside the Windows dir without issue, but I noticed there were many others that had this same problem.
So is this even possible? Is this an issue with all files that come built into the ROM? If so is there any way around it?
If not it would be a shame because I really miss this simple program when running other ROMS.
(and no offence to the e2 ROM, it is one of the best I've used, I just like flashing new ROMS every other day or so...)
Sorry I misread your post. I have nothing to say sorry.
I put the files path near the top of the first post:
\Windows\taskmgr.exe
Its title while running is simply Task Manager. Obviously there are many other task managers that take on the same name, some even with the same filename.
Not sure how else to differentiate it. In the handful of different ROMS I've tried, I've only found this specific program in e2 (both Sense 2.5 and 2.1 versions in fact).
The program itself is merely a list of tasks with the columns Application, Mem, and CPU. The right softkey is labeled Menu and has options to End All Tasks, view either Applications or Processes, sort by the various columns, refresh, and exit. The left softkey is labeled End Task and has the appropriate functionality.
I realize other task managers would seem to duplicate the functionality of this one. For various reasons I like this the best (mostly because it can be easily controlled entirely with the keyboard without any need to tap the screen, and because it does exactly what I need it to do and nothing more, there's always dotfred's application if I need more powerful task managing capabilities).
Wish I knew more!
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Sorry I misread your post. I have nothing to say sorry.
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Hey, just glad someone noticed!
dotfred taskmanager is probably what it is
Nope, I have and use dotfred's task manager, it's a great program but is overkill if all you want to do is switch tasks.
I've attached a screenshot of the program.
But really, I should have probably phrased my question better. This is not so much about the specific application, as it is about finding a way to copy ROM files out of the Windows directory. There are many other files with this issue, taskmgr.exe just happens to be the one I want.
Of course if someone knew of a standalone version of this app that would be great, but I somehow doubt such a thing exists. It seems unique to the e2 ROM (I have posted in the e2 ROM thread as well).
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Upon install some third party applications, two icons for a program will install in the programs menu instead of just one (not talking Start Menu). These are not two separate installs, but two shortcuts to the same program. Under Remove Programs there is only one program instance.
On a related note, I had switched phones and had installed Beta player on my SD card..it was still there, of course, but now an icon does not appear in the Programs folder.
1. Where do I go to remove or add shortcuts into the Programs Menu?
2. How do I do so? (if it is too long to type out, where can I read about doing so?)
Thanks,
First a real file explorer then find the links here....
Get a real file explorer first. The Windows standard one is terrible and you can not see many files that savy users need to see (such as the shortcuts I mention below). RESCO is a good and popular one. Then you can find the program shortcuts in Windows\Start Menu\Programs. These are just links to the actual executables and if you get the file properties you can see where they link to.
Alt file explorers
Ah...I figured it was something simple like that. I will download some file explorers and try them out.
Thanks ;-)
Resco Fixed it
Once I could see and read everything on the pda, everything was a breeze. Thanks again.
Hey is there a way to show the programs as a list when you go through the menu or does it have to show the full icons?
Hey guys. I'm having this issue where, when I try and open a ZIP file on my 8525 w/ AT&T WM6, it says: "The central directory was not found in the archive (or you were trying to open a disk other than the last disk of a multi-disk archive)."
Downloading the file to my PC works just fine, so I've been transfering them either through USB or swapping the memory card in and out for now, but that gets annoying after a while.
It seems to have only started recently...but I fiddle with so many of the little .cab apps on here that I couldn't think of which one may have caused an issue with the ZIP program.
Anybody have any ideas as to how this could have started? Or how to fix it?
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i have the same issue.
I have had similar issues, only way to get around it was to use OPERA 8.65 and download the file, once downloaded in opera the .zip file opened fine.
I assume it may be some sort of incompatibility with pocket i.e.
cj
It shouldn't have anything to do with PIE because the file downloads fine. In fact, the same download opens fine on my desktop PC. Its only on my pocket PC that I get the error.
Somehow my ZIP program is not recognizing all the ZIPs in a certain directory. When i ask it to search for all ZIPs, it comes back with a small portion of those on my PDA.
Something is blocking the application from seeing all the ZIPs and opening them.
What program are you using to open them? Try something like Total Commander.
It really doesn't matter what program you use to open them (Total Commander, Windows Explorer, ZIP, etc.). When that program calls up the ZIP application, the error message appears.
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It really doesn't matter what program you use to open them (Total Commander, Windows Explorer, ZIP, etc.). When that program calls up the ZIP application, the error message appears.
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Ditto. I tried Total Commander and it's the same story. I recently had to hard reset a couple of times (due to a bit of over zealous registry editing), and even on a fresh reboot of WM6 it still couldn't open but a small percentage of the zips I have on the storage card, so I no longer believe that it was .cab that did it to me. Maybe just an inherent design flaw? I dunno. I've tried the standard ZIP program that comes on the phone, Total Commander, Pocket RAR...nothing seems to work. It really sucks because I browse the site alot while I'm at work, but I have to wait until I get home to try anything new out because I can't open 90% of ZIP files on the phone. It kinda' sucks.
doesn't resco have a zip utility?
sorry i double posted that last entry.
same issue
I have had the same issue with mine. I thought I was going crazy! If I put the zip file on my storage card through my pc then it will work and will open, but if I download it on my 8525, it does not work. I am glad to know I am not going nuts.
Frustrated.
It seems Pocket Rar doesn't work either for many of the zips, and I am using 3.71.
Maybe I need to try a cooked rom.
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I am new to phone pda's and this matter has bugged me from the very beginning.
Searching led me here and the post from cejay jogged my memory as familiar and I have definitely confirmed this:
Many files downloaded as .zip will not open either automatically or as standalone zips, using the htc zip app. If the exact same file is downloaded using Opera mini it then can be opened using the htc app.
I had also noticed that zip files that would not open on the pda when transferred to my pc opened perfectly there.
Try pocket Rar, never had any problems with it.
Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?
Maybe Resco Explorer or Total Commander CE will help.
if it's built in the rom, you might be unable to delete that file.
Please be more specific: which file do you wish to delete?
Maybe you'd have to recook the ROM without that file.
Regards,
EquinoXe
Things built into the rom are "READ ONLY MEMORY" therefore cannot be deleted. if the file is only marked as system and readonly though you can change its atributes using total commander. just long click on item to bring up menu and go to properties. there you need to uncheck everything and delete
I had downloaded Total Commander and installed it, the checked file attributes are 'read only' and 'in rom'; so I guess the file shall be consider undeleteable.
Now I had to learn how to recook, any good guide how can I recook the ROM that I have?
similar problem
I downloaded some software and it came up as being faulty software. The file was a zip folder titled : res_ppc-custom.icons
I tried through my windows mobile device center to uninstall it, but it was never actually installed completely in the first place.
I then tried to delete the file a few times. Once directly from my pda, once through the device center and again through my pc windows explorer. All three attempts were unsuccessful.
How can I get rid of this thing?
Thanks in advance
perhaps you may want to check if the file being accessed by other software, easiest way is to soft reset and try to delete it.
That did the trick! Thanks so much
Move files to storage card
OK I want to move some files (not ROM) in Windows and keep getting error. For example Opera.exe is not marked as anything in properties yet I can't seem to delete the file. I did copy it to my storage card without any issue but can't delete the original from Windows directory. Any suggestions since Total Commander won't delete it. Will edit registry to find it on the Storage Card.
Deleting files in Windows folder
mynullvoid said:
Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?
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I have the same problem - I have colpilot.wm6ppc.cab in my Windows directory. It's 12.6mb, I don't want it, and it's taking up a lot of storage space. My phone is a T-Mobile MDA and it obviously came with CoPilot as an option, but I think it's really unfair that the cab is right there in the Windows dir and I can't get rid of it....
Any help gratefully received....
Cheers,
Ed.
The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.
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The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.
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I think the issue is not on the files in ROM.
I have the same problem. I've copied a file under Windows folder and after that I'm unable to delete it.
Strangely I'm able to rename it, which should mean that file is not in use, however deletion is not possible.
I've used TotalCommander, the built-in Explorer and also connected the phone via ActiveSync, but still nothing happens and access seems to be denied.
The exact message is "deletion error".
Any idea?
Thanks.
Cheers...
-nOra-
A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.
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A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.
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Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?
djulen said:
Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?
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Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...
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Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...
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Use Total Commander to modify the contents of the \Windows directory.
Yes, but you won't be able to delete a ROM file anyway.
In the \Windows folder, you commonly encounter three kinds of files :
- Pure ROM files (can't be deleted nor renamed nor moved, nor even copied, but can be overwritten, consuming internal storage memory space in the process to store the new copy, that will become used instead) ;
- Files put there by installation CABs or else (can be freely deleted, renamed or moved, provided they're not currently used by a running process) ;
- Files put on top of previously existing ROM files, wearing the same name (deleting, renaming or moving them will thus make the original ROM file undertneath to reappear with its original contents and attributes).
Once you've understood that, you'll be more aware of what's cooking there.
ROM files can't even be copied, but you can use ROMExtractor to copy them elsewhere, in case you want to study them, or use them in your own ROM (useful to get up-to date versions from another HTC device to cook your own ROM).
Since ROMExtractor is a very minimalistic tool (you have to type in all the files names with their path, same for the target copy, all one by one !) manually extracting hundreds (even thousands) of files is a very tedious taks, I made a MortScript to automate the process in order to extract all those DLLs, EXEs, MUIs, etc. files that can't be directly copied from a phone's ROM.
On the other hand, you absolutely can't delete a ROM file to make room. Overwriting it with a file wearing the same name will jut result in actually adding the new file, thus consuming even more room. The new file will just be used instead of the original one (so you can still update or personalize the ROM).
As a direct consequence, the only way to get rid of unwanted ROM files or permanently replacing them with up-to-date ones is to cook a ROM and flash it to the device to replace the old one.
That's way how operating systems can become better and better, and save space at the same time.
And no, Windows Mobile isn't dead : I'm not quite finished with fixing it until it's perfect, so it's not over yet. LOL
So I have been installing apps left and right on my tp2 and uninstalling the majority and I think one of them messed up my "File Explorer" application. I have total commander on my phone as well (it came with it on it) and I have tried using it but its too complex for me and I can't figure out how to do some things on it. Should I just try to learn total commander or is there another program my fellow XDAers suggest? Thanks!
So I have been installing apps left and right on my tp2 and uninstalling the majority and I think one of them messed up my "File Explorer" application. I have total commander on my phone as well (it came with it on it) and I have tried using it but its too complex for me and I can't figure out how to do some things on it. Should I just try to learn total commander or is there another program my fellow XDAers suggest? Thanks!
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learn to use total commander. way better thn file explorer plus u can back up files with this. its not hard...juss lets u see way more. plus u can access the sacred "Registries" lol
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...Or you could try to un-mess File Explorer. However, without a clue what exactly is messed up, noone will be able to help you with that.
Learn Total Commander. The only difference you need to worry about between File Explorer and TC is that to enter directories/execute programs you need to double tap, instead the single tap needed in File Explorer. That and to go to the parent directory, press the .. button at the top right of the screen.
Everything else is extra. TC is not hard to use, it just throws a lot of features at you that you do not need to use that often. But of course when you do need one of TC's many features they will be there for you.
And in fact...if you must....you can configure Total Commander to work with single taps like File Explorer. Assuming you have the latest version, goto the Show menu, then About/Settings, then click Single click start checkbox.
Yeah...what did you mess up anyway?
Did you mess up/have too many icons on screen and would like to sort them.in a better way other than windows/start menu/programs...?
anyway...try resco file explorer...or this lil puppy
Hello all
Forgive me for any ignorance for any part of this, kinda still learning the Android stuff.
Basically I got a Tab Pro 8.4 for Xmas, an like a lot of it, but really don't care for the huge Weather widget, or how it's designed. But I do want to stay with a Accuweather version.
My first learning of Android came from a Stratosphere II phone I have, an I kinda like that weather widget. Plus I think it would be a little smaller.
To mention, I rooted that device as it was pretty easy, (an way out of warranty), but I have yet to root the 8.4 as seems to be more complicated and I kinda almost don't want to unless I really have too as I really don't want to trip the Knox.
Anyway, so my goal here was to try the Strat's weather widget in the 8.4, so I went into the system folder of the Strat, got all the files that had to do with anything of the weather widget, copied them to my PC, put them in the doc's folder of the 8.4, and then tried to copy them to same system folder, which I was able to view with Root Explorer, but when I went to paste them in, it told me I couldn't as the device was not rooted.
So is there any way I can get these files into there?
Thanks for any help.
To write or modify with '/' or '/system' files you will need root, really anything outside of the /mnt/sdcard directory(s) are mostly read only or 'locked' with permissions to a certain user (each "app" is a separate user).
Anyways I don't see why you would need to put the file there anyways as you should be able to just install it as a normal "User" application regardless where it was installed on the other device, all you need is the .apk file from the other device then install it on the 8.4, you will first need to enable "unknown Sources" in Settings.
(First on device that has the app you want - look in "/system/app/" ," /system/priv-app/" - there should be some files with a ".apk" extension find the one for the weather app /widget you want to use, and copy it to your pc, then copy the file to the tab 8.4, click on it in a file manager such as root explorer or the one that came with the tablet, it should prompt you to enable Unknown Sources under settings , enable the option, then proceed to install it - you shouldn't need any other files besides the apk )
If it doesn't work then the apk could be coded to a certain device (as some Samsung apps are) or just too old to run on kitkat.
See my screenshots for some basic example (the apk file will probably be called something else on the other device)
Thanks so much otyg, you are always such a great help.
So just to reply a few things . . . yes, the files were in the system/apps folder from the original device. Second, when I first got the 8.4, I went through all the settings menus, an found that thing on "Unknown Sources" an clicked it, kinda remember that from something I learned with the smartphone, so knew right off to check that. Guess the only reason am mentioning, is to mention that I have been using a few Explorer apps, but none have promoted me for what you mentioned, an am guessing as it was already checked(?).
So at the moment I have the files sitting in a documents folder of the 8.4, but now to ask on those . . . when I went into the app folder of the org device, there were several files that had the accuweather in them.
First on this point, there were three that had the apk ext, an those were, AccuweatherDaemon.apk, AccuweatherWidget_Main.apk and, AccuweatherWidget.apk.
Then to mention too, each one had a corresponding worded file with a .odex ext.
So not knowing much, I copied all six.
So don't know if you could answer this, but do you have any idea of which I should install, or should I install all of them? An again just to remind, what I am looking for here is the Widget from my org device, but I do want it to work. Then one more question on this point, is there anyway to uninstall these if any cause some kind of issue?
Lastly an just to mention, as I posted, I don't know much about the Android system, so just didn't know that a .apk file is basically a install file. KInda thought they were application execution files, which I think they are(?) . . . but they can be app install files a well? Sorry to ask such a knob question as well as so many others, but is how I will learn.
Again, thanks so much for the help.
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Thanks so much otyg, you are always such a great help.
So just to reply a few things . . . yes, the files were in the system/apps folder from the original device. Second, when I first got the 8.4, I went through all the settings menus, an found that thing on "Unknown Sources" an clicked it, kinda remember that from something I learned with the smartphone, so knew right off to check that. Guess the only reason am mentioning, is to mention that I have been using a few Explorer apps, but none have promoted me for what you mentioned, an am guessing as it was already checked(?).
So at the moment I have the files sitting in a documents folder of the 8.4, but now to ask on those . . . when I went into the app folder of the org device, there were several files that had the accuweather in them.
First on this point, there were three that had the apk ext, an those were, AccuweatherDaemon.apk, AccuweatherWidget_Main.apk and, AccuweatherWidget.apk.
Then to mention too, each one had a corresponding worded file with a .odex ext.
So not knowing much, I copied all six.
So don't know if you could answer this, but do you have any idea of which I should install, or should I install all of them? An again just to remind, what I am looking for here is the Widget from my org device, but I do want it to work. Then one more question on this point, is there anyway to uninstall these if any cause some kind of issue?
Lastly an just to mention, as I posted, I don't know much about the Android system, so just didn't know that a .apk file is basically a install file. KInda thought they were application execution files, which I think they are(?) . . . but they can be app install files a well? Sorry to ask such a knob question as well as so many others, but is how I will learn.
Again, thanks so much for the help.
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Apk files used for installing apps like an exe file on windows or a dmg on mac, when you install something from the play store it is delivered as an APK file but it just happens "behind the scenes" so to speak, you are just bypassing the play store and directly installing the app but it's the same process...
When you install a app this is what happens in most cases.
1. The APK(s) gets stored in /data/app/<applicationname.apk> (this will get removed on uninstall.)
2. it creates a unique directory under /data/data/<applicationname> (this will get removed on uninstall)
3. it can create a directory under /mnt/sdcard/Android/data/<applicationname> (these files usually get left behind on uninstall but since it's on the user storage the user can remove them, it usually contains settings or cache files)
You don't need the .odex files, these are encrypted and probably wont work on other devices, it's basically the apk optimized for the device so it starts faster.
Just install the 3 apk's, the widget probably needs the main program for support and the daemon service probably runs in the background for updates ..etc, since you are installing them as a normal user it won't do much harm and you can always remove them if they do cause an issue, Applications are self contained and when you remove them the corresponding data folders are removed too (on the device) so it is unlikely to do any lasting damage.
To remove them go to Settings -> General -> Application Manager -> Downloaded and remove the apps from there . (if you don't see them swipe right until you see All )
Thanks so much for the reply an the education otyg
Did just as you suggested, deleted the odex files an tapped on the apk's to install, an don't know for why, but while it seemed to go as normal, in the end, I got a message saying they did not install, for all three.
Replaced the odex's back an that didn't seem to make a dif.
Perhaps it didn't work as could not install as device is not rooted?
Just to mention, I did have something with my Strat II device back a few months ago, where I placed another version of a accuweather widget in the systems/app folder, an it did show up.
At any rate, was a good try an thanks again for all the info.
Perhaps if I can get this device rooted, I can try again by just putting the apps in the folder.