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Anything in the horizon? Anyone been thinking about it? We're days away... would love to get in the 21st century and leave the Excel spreadsheets behind.
Ai
Hello there!
I'd like to inform you about a pretty sweet app, which does about everything u want and imagine of such an app.
The site where I found it:
hxxp://yyy.mobilepractices.com/2010/06/world-cup-2010-application-for-windows.html
Not marketing or something, I'm just not sure if it came from XDA DEVs or not.
Might be an idea to make such an app run in the background on low fuel consumption, with an alarm function to set for your favorite matches haha.
It's a pretty nice, well working, if I may believe what's been writen, revolutionairy app!
Have Fun!
Yeah mate there's definitely already at least 2 world cup 2010 apps... jump onto windows marketplace, there's one there for like $0.99 or $1.99... something like that.
Now we have some official information about regional availability.
In a nutshell, WP7 will support 5 languages (English, French, Italian, German and Spanish), and Marketplace will be available in 17 countries (Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, France, Germany, Hong Kong, India, Ireland, Italy, Mexico, New Zealand, Singapore, Spain, Switzerland, UK and United States).
While at first I thought - fine, I'll just import one from wherever it's available, it won't work.
First of all, it will be next to useless if you speak Dutch or Russian, for example - it won't have dictionaries for auto-correction or, in the worst case, won't have the input characters necessary.
What's even worse, you won't be able to buy applications if your market isn't supported.
Big disappointment...
Disappointing low availability in the initial rush. I'd expected more of Microsoft.
Lol. You guys are way too harsh. Do you know how many carriers those markets contain? A LOT.
Rolling out an entirely new software platform and entirely new devices is not an easy process. Lighten up, they're doing an excellent job.
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Lol. You guys are way too harsh. Do you know how many carriers those markets contain? A LOT.
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No, we're not.
Apple iTunes is the only marketplace that supports selling/buying applications in those regions. And same goes for music services (iTunes Music Store) versus Zune.
Google after over a year of Android still haven't launched anything in northern Europe. It's super annoying that we're left behind innovation this easy. I'd expected more of Microsoft, who have a established business selling software and services in all the European countries, to be able to launch in all these regions at the same time.
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Lol. You guys are way too harsh.
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I'm not harsh, I'm disappointed because I'm left out of the party, even though I live in a country that almost 4 times as many mobile phones in use as in France, where Microsoft has over 30% market share in smartphones, where they have tons of people working at their offices including developers and localization contractors and what not, and where they have some of the biggest ISVs supplying third party applications.
So I'm frustrated, not harsh.
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Google after over a year of Android still haven't launched anything in northern Europe.
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Google isn't a consumer oriented company, have no infrastructure or processes in most places to sell anything directly to end users, so that's understandable. But Microsoft? Come on, they're just being lazy.
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Google isn't a consumer oriented company, have no infrastructure or processes in most places to sell anything directly to end users, so that's understandable. But Microsoft? Come on, they're just being lazy.
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But it is still very successful.
Which makes Microsoft think.....and rethink its new product roll-out.
Could their not be other issues like Licensing and other laws that might make it difficult to get everything in order before a mass release is done? Just because you have access to similar products now doesn't mean it is easy to get new products to you when Laws/Procedure get in the way.
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Could their not be other issues like Licensing and other laws that might make it difficult to get everything in order before a mass release is done?
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That is precisely the problem. It's the same reason that developers have to be in one of 30 or so countries because Microsoft can't pay them if they're outside of those.
Wow, none of the Nordic countries.
nizzon said:
Wow, none of the Nordic countries.
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Probably copyright issues. That and languages that aren't spoken by a large amount of people comparatively.
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Probably copyright issues. That and languages that aren't spoken by a large amount of people comparatively.
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All the Nordic countries speak/read/write English almost as well as their native language, so it's not a localization issue.
Legal issues is more likely the problem -- Specially when it comes to Zune, more than anything else.
But it's still disappointing, as Microsoft got large local divisions in the Nordic countries, specially Denmark (Microsoft Dynamics is developed here), so one would think they could be better than Google in this.
What I don't understand, is that Apple got both iTunes for Apps and Music available in all the European countries, so why would Microsoft be limited here with Zune?
However, it could also just be that Microsoft isn't pushing it to all countries due to simple logical issues -- there simply ain't enough phones. Nokia had same issue with the N900, which also were limited to the major countries + Finland (Nokia resides in Finland).
But is it common practice to sell stuff in english and not the local language? I really don't know but I would think they would localize it.
Zune has been interesting. Microsoft really hasn't bothered to sell it anywhere but the US. I suppose it's more of a cost/benefit thing. They just didn't care enough to take it abroad. They started that when they brought it to Xbox 360 and now they're going further with WP7.
But yea, it's going to be hard enough on them and their partners to do an effective launch in 17 countries as it is. And they're supposedly going to make their way to the Netherlands before the end of the year so that may just be it as well. Or maybe they couldn't get all the legal issues straightened out in time? At any rate, it's no small undertaking.
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But is it common practice to sell stuff in english and not the local language? I really don't know but I would think they would localize it.
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For cutting-edge it's generally accepted.
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Zune has been interesting. Microsoft really hasn't bothered to sell it anywhere but the US. I suppose it's more of a cost/benefit thing. They just didn't care enough to take it abroad. They started that when they brought it to Xbox 360 and now they're going further with WP7.
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Yeah, they stated that Zune will be released in all regions WP7 is released in.
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At any rate, it's no small undertaking.
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Doesn't make it less annoying for us
RustyGrom said:
Zune has been interesting. Microsoft really hasn't bothered to sell it anywhere but the US. I suppose it's more of a cost/benefit thing. They just didn't care enough to take it abroad. They started that when they brought it to Xbox 360 and now they're going further with WP7.
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Well, Zune is a very difficult thing because digital rights have to be obtained for every country separately... Plus, Zune has streaming, so you have to get streaming rights as well. Sometimes a label will have an agreement with the artist that won't cover digital rights, so you'll have to negotiate these separately. That's a colossal amount of "manual" work to make an international music store - and then you get videos, too...
As nice as it would be to have Zune Pass though, I can certainly live without it, and I sincerely hope this isn't something that's holding WP7 back - they won't open Zune in many countries till doomsday.
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But yea, it's going to be hard enough on them and their partners to do an effective launch in 17 countries as it is. And they're supposedly going to make their way to the Netherlands before the end of the year so that may just be it as well. Or maybe they couldn't get all the legal issues straightened out in time? At any rate, it's no small undertaking.
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Apart from Zune, however, I don't see any big hurdles. Translation isn't a big deal, they have a network of subcontractors that do it, and everything is in those MUI files. Marketplace is available in more than 17 countries even now, so they certainly learned how to deal with tax and legal issues by now, and it's not that difficult really. OEMs know how to sell devices there, have distributors, retail/MO partners etc. etc.
At the end of the day I don't care if they "launch" WP7 in Russia or not, all I care is that they add Russian keyboard. Adding language support is certainly not that big of anl undertaking which would sell a couple million more devices even without official launches and all that fluff.
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As nice as it would be to have Zune Pass though, I can certainly live without it, and I sincerely hope this isn't something that's holding WP7 back - they won't open Zune in many countries till doomsday.
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As I said, Zune will be launched in all countries they launch WP7 in.
At the end of the day I don't care if they "launch" WP7 in Russia or not, all I care is that they add Russian keyboard. Adding language support is certainly not that big of anl undertaking which would sell a couple million more devices even without official launches and all that fluff.
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It's a software keyboard, can't be that difficult to implement, even for a Cyrillic alphabet.
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As I said, Zune will be launched in all countries they launch WP7 in.
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In that case we'll never ever see WP7 in Russia, even Apple hasn't been able to get deals with labels to launch iTunes store here.
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It's a software keyboard, can't be that difficult to implement, even for a Cyrillic alphabet.
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Certainly, given that CE supports Cyrillic, Silverlight supports Cyrillic, even Zune supports Cyrillic, and Microsoft has all the dictionaries and stuff. That's a really minor thing to do to get access to a market with some 200 million active mobile phones in use I'd say...
So we wont even get the Phones?!!!!!!!
I got the impression that we could buy the phones but not have access to the Marketplace. I though wrong?
If thats the case, when the F!!! will I be able to buy it in Sweden? Next summer?
This is ****ing uppsetting.
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Well, you don't need a phone to be officially available in your country to buy it, you can just buy it on the internet from wherever you like. You may not get official warranty, it won't be subsidised etc., but you can get it if you want.
Lack of official status isn't a problem with WM because you can install any keyboard you want and you can sideload applications. This isn't a problem with the iPhone because it supports tons of languages regardless of where you buy it. In the case of WP7, text autocorrection won't work, you might not get the characters you need in the software keyboard, and you won't be able to install applications, so simply importing it will be pretty much useless.
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So we wont even get the Phones?!!!!!!!
I got the impression that we could buy the phones but not have access to the Marketplace. I though wrong?
If thats the case, when the F!!! will I be able to buy it in Sweden? Next summer?
This is ****ing uppsetting.
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Countries like the Netherlands have been told to get it around Christmas - so most likely the Nordic countries will get it too...
Don't be too upset, there will be announcements soon.
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Well, you don't need a phone to be officially available in your country to buy it, you can just buy it on the internet from wherever you like. You may not get official warranty, it won't be subsidised etc., but you can get it if you want.
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Not in my case, I will get it from the company I work for and we have certain policys to follow.
Hello,
My name is Trevor and I own and built www.taxiroute.co.uk which is a taxi fare calculator for the UK.
The website on its own generates £12m of enquiries a year. I deperately need a Windows Phone 7 app writing.
I was wondering if anyone might be interested in having a chat about joining taxiroute to help write this app?
Knowledge of Bing Maps and integration to webservices would be advantageous.
Drop me a line if you might be interested.
Thanks
Trev
http://www.freelancer.com/
I know all about freelance.com and im sure they will appreciate the backlink.
but im not looking for a freelancer as such.
I would like to team up with someone, and i appreciate this is a long shot, who does wp7 and hopefully might think taxiroute is a good idea and would like to come aboard.
The website is doing £11m of enquiries a year 18 months in. People seem to love it. But they always beat me with the stick "where's the mobile version?" And, "how many people do you think are looking for a taxi in front of their laptop?"
I've done all the back end. the api is ready:
http://www.taxiroute.co.uk/DesktopModules/IWeb/webservice.asmx
I wrote an old wm 6.5 version and it worked great. wm6.5 is obsolete really. but a good test.
Ive managed to get a wp7 demo together but im just mashing other peoples code together withought really understanding what it does completely.
So, anyone out there messing around with wp7 that might like to take a chance?
its bing mapping, silverlight, xaml, webservices and all the other things you probably know more about than me...lol
my main competitor just won the king of bling maps and is featurd in the US tv campaign.
Any fools out there with a couple of hours spare?
Trev
To be honest it looks like you're trying to get some developer to come do some work for you for free, and then you'll turn around and make some money off it.
to that all i can say is "no" really.
in my above post i hoped to prove that this is not a flash in the pan and that i had made a lot of effort before i considered wasting other peoples time.
this is an honest offer.
i dont know what else to say really.
trev
i sound like a bloody advert for wp7. ive said really, 4 times, 5 including this one..
Well, you wouldn't be the first person posting here who was like that You're actually the third guy in the last two weeks to come here looking for a WP7 programmer.
It's still not really clear what you're looking for. You're not building an open source program, you're not looking for a freelancer apparently, are you looking to hire someone, or enter a profit-sharing agreement or something?
I send you a PM
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Hello,
My name is Trevor and I own and built www.taxiroute.co.uk which is a taxi fare calculator for the UK.
The website on its own generates £12m of enquiries a year. I deperately need a Windows Phone 7 app writing.
I was wondering if anyone might be interested in having a chat about joining taxiroute to help write this app?
Knowledge of Bing Maps and integration to webservices would be advantageous.
Drop me a line if you might be interested.
Thanks
Trev
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Gave it a try but it didn't work:
"Sorry, we do not have a tariff for your route. The Administrator has been notified of this missing information. Please accept our apologies."
WooHoo! TaxiRoute WP7 App is now live
Remember i posted this thread before Xmas?
Great News! the wp7 app went live on Friday.
It has a free trial option and I would love your feedback!
http://social.zune.net/redirect?type=phoneApp&id=ba52d356-0039-e011-854c-00237de2db9e
Trev
Well the routing is trying to take me down a road thats been closed off for years and years. So not much good if it cannot give me an alternate route.
You need to get this fixed. Just as well its a free download.
Incorrect Routing
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Well the routing is trying to take me down a road thats been closed off for years and years. So not much good if it cannot give me an alternate route.
You need to get this fixed. Just as well its a free download.
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Hi, firstly thanks for taking the time to have a look at the app and giving me some feedback!
I must admit, and im not trying to avoid responsibility here, but the routing is all done by Bing Maps. The chances of me being able to get them to update their maps is zilch
Could I ask a favour?
Would you try the route that you mention in the websites below and let me know what they come back with?
http://www.bing.com/maps/
and
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl
It would be interesting to see if firstly the web version of Bing also has the same problem with the route and whether Google maps says anything different.
Your help would be greatly appreciated
Trev
trevorjdaniel said:
Hi, firstly thanks for taking the time to have a look at the app and giving me some feedback!
I must admit, and im not trying to avoid responsibility here, but the routing is all done by Bing Maps. The chances of me being able to get them to update their maps is zilch
Could I ask a favour?
Would you try the route that you mention in the websites below and let me know what they come back with?
http://www.bing.com/maps/
and
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl
It would be interesting to see if firstly the web version of Bing also has the same problem with the route and whether Google maps says anything different.
Your help would be greatly appreciated
Trev
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Yes Bing maps are sending me down the wrong route, but Google is giving me the correct routing. Try yourself (Marchburn Drive to Aberdeen Airport.)
I am a fan, and owner of a Windows Phone 7 device. However, living in Germany (or anywhere else outside of the US/UK) limits the features of my phone. Please Microsoft, allow users outside of the US/UK to have a full featured device, like it is advertised. This is hurting your product. If I change regional settings to English (US or UK) I get local results for Germany, but with regional settings on German I don't! This is no good, give us access to what is already there, and build it up. Now with Local Scout, there are reports of this only working in the US and in the UK, we in the rest of the world want these features too! As an International Corporation, would it not be a good idea to invest in everyone equally?
I have therefore created a Facebook group, not much I know, but its a start right?
Please join this group if you feel the same way I do. Maybe if enough join, we can show Microsoft that all users want the same experience, not fragmented and dependant on location!
You will find the group here! Please be fruitful(?) anways please join!
+10 to you...nice post
no zune pass,no local scout and etc.......for australian devices.Furthermore, the apps here are F**king expensive.
pacman championship price= angry birds + tiny wings + infinity blade on iphone...epic fail pricing
Same here in Portugal! We don't even have access to Indie Games on Xbox Live
Talk to your governments.
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Talk to your governments.
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Our governments sure don't block Microsoft from releasing a finished search engine (not bing beta which is actually live search) nor do they have anything to do with whether you can get local results etc. on the phone.
The only thing that I understand is that MS does not offer the Zune Pass in Germany because they would have to pay several cents for each song we stream.
UK isn't exactly fully featured either.
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UK isn't exactly fully featured either.
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Something is always better than nothing.
And governments have nothing to do with what Microsoft decides to release or not... unless you are in Libia or some weird dictatorial regime.
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UK isn't exactly fully featured either.
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But its more featured than the rest of the world
I'd rather talk to Microsoft about it, but they probably don't to talk to me...but that won't stop me from trying!!
LOL. In Germany you have at least Marketplace access The ONLY way to have paid apps on your phone in Bulgaria is to pirate them. And then MS talks about software piracy
It's complete joke. In my country you have Apple Appstore, Android Marketplace but no Windows Marketplace. Not even with Mango. Maybe we have to wait for a Banana update to have Marketplace as a popular joke is that we are the Banana Republic of the EU
I fully agree and fully subscribe to this thread.
I am really fed up with the US-centric MS services.
I am in France, not a small country, I have no local search and Bing Map sucks... Unusable. And Microsoft pretend to be a global company?
I think microsoft is too greedy,they want to gain 100% profits in here....Since they know that Bing is not good in other countries,they should give us an option to use google map...Like Apple,they are not operating any search engine or map businesses,therefore until now,they still using google map and iphone still selling good...
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I fully agree and fully subscribe to this thread.
I am really fed up with the US-centric MS services.
I am in France, not a small country, I have no local search and Bing Map sucks... Unusable. And Microsoft pretend to be a global company?
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Excellent glad your with us!
I hope those Bing stations opened in Munich and Paris I believe start churning out better support!!
The funny thing is that Bing actually has Local Results for Germany, not good but still its there, we just can't access them! Only if we change browser and search language to english (US or UK). Giving us the option of Google Maps would go a long way, but in the end Microsoft wants to build up its Bing. They are, but it's just taking a while. With Nokia onboard hopefully we get there map data soon!
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I think microsoft is too greedy,they want to gain 100% profits in here....Since they know that Bing is not good in other countries,they should give us an option to use google map...Like Apple,they are not operating any search engine or map businesses,therefore until now,they still using google map and iphone still selling good...
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Microsoft is NOT stopping Google from making Google Maps for Windows Phone so I don't see how this is Microsoft's fault.
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Microsoft is NOT stopping Google from making Google Maps for Windows Phone so I don't see how this is Microsoft's fault.
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their fault is that they did not negotiate and cooperate with google before WP7 is released.They should use google map as the stock map app especially both bing(countries outside US) and wp7 still in a premature stage.
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their fault is that they did not negotiate and cooperate with google before WP7 is released.They should use google map as the stock map app especially both bing(countries outside US) and wp7 still in a premature stage.
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Lol.. the most hilarious post ever.
So.. why don't apple puts windows on their macs as it's better and it's more used than mac os ?
Why don't google stop developing android as it suck and invest in WP7 as it's better ?
Or would you invest milions in something and than ask your biggest competitor to use their solution instead ?
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LOL. In Germany you have at least Marketplace access The ONLY way to have paid apps on your phone in Bulgaria is to pirate them. And then MS talks about software piracy
It's complete joke. In my country you have Apple Appstore, Android Marketplace but no Windows Marketplace. Not even with Mango. Maybe we have to wait for a Banana update to have Marketplace as a popular joke is that we are the Banana Republic of the EU
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Same "Banana" feeling here -.-
LoL at you????
For me,I won't bet my reputation since I know Bing is not good in other countries at this time,I rather use the better options for this critical stage since the OS is not perfect I won't risk the map and search engine apps as well.....As I mentioned,WP7 is in pre-mature stage,thats means just use google map temporarily,not forever
Furthermore,Thanks for bringing mac OS into this topic,you just make your mind look hilarious and awesome...I know that and thats why I LOL at you...
Do you know that mac OSX has a function called dual boot or boot camp?????this is because Apple knows their operating system still need more efforts to catch up the windows in terms of games and apps...therefore they offer this function....So,whats wrong???If WP7 use google map for this critical period since the bing map is not as good as google map in other countries in this world????In case you don't believe,I can tell you that in my university 1000+ imacs are dual booting windows XP...In this case,Apple at least gives their consumers an option,but we have none in WP7.
Moreover,you should know that Apple still securing their mac os well,so no pc can run mac os legally because apple didnt sell their license and it is a premier OS.M$ can do the same here,they can not license out the Bing map or search to other mobile devices.
After you read this,you should LOL at your post...
you make my day mate.
...I dont believe that Microsoft deliberately blocks any features to annoy users outside of the USA/UK. The questions is rather if they can. There are hundreds of regulations within each country and even more within the EU which prevents them
from doing this or including that. Just take the country codes on DVDs. Just take the uproar in Germany when Google started streetview. And lately the problems with collecting location data, which among others would be necessary to enjoy the features of "Local results"... One has to make a choice between protecting his privacy and using services based on data collections....
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...I dont believe that Microsoft deliberately blocks any features to annoy users outside of the USA/UK. The questions is rather if they can. There are hundreds of regulations within each country and even more within the EU which prevents them
from doing this or including that. Just take the country codes on DVDs. Just take the uproar in Germany when Google started streetview. And lately the problems with collecting location data, which among others would be necessary to enjoy the features of "Local results"... One has to make a choice between protecting his privacy and using services based on data collections....
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Well MS tracks the location of phones in every country. And again, I understand that MS cannot offer the Zune Pass in Germany because of local laws but there is nothing stopping them from releasing voice search or a final bing engine or the upcoming bing vision and such stuff.
No zune pass in Canada, and make the Microsoft points good for Zune, Xbox live, etc
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I'm a guy lacking of sense of direction. My friends always invite me to an occasion to meet them but i lose the destination lot of times. Disturbing with the trouble, i resolve in buying an individual mini GPS navigation. With it, i'm able to get the direction accurately and it helps me a lot. Observing other functions of it though i just use one of them. The whole device is small, portable and can be used as a key chain.
But at the same time, the sense of navigating is not so strong. And the interface is all of black font with the blue light. Not so comfortable when glance through it.
Generally, it make sense for me. Just sharing it to guys. Thanks.
Why do you have to come up with all these stories in every single post you make on XDA advertising for tinydeal store you work for? Lol!
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Why do you have to come up with all these stories in every single post you make on XDA advertising for tinydeal store you work for? Lol!
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It's called "ren sheng yi ru ci jian nan, you xie shi bu yao chai chuan". Lol!