This is by no means to insinuate that I am ungrateful to those working so hard on Android on the TP2. But here is the question that I have.
If sound is not working on the TP2 within a relatively short amount of time given the lifespan of phones and attention span of users will it really matter if the UI is not choppy or the battery charge indicator is working perfectly?
Will you adopt android as your chief OS if develoment stops without sound working?
For me, ringtones and music aren't critical, I keep my phone on vibrate most of the time. GPS is more critical. So I guess that would be a "No" in this poll.
Sound is not critical, even on WinMo I rarely use it.
The biggest issue for me currently is the very low in-call speaker volume. After that, speakerphone functionality, then power managment and charging.
Working hardware 3d acceleration would be a big plus as web browsing can be quite sluggish on Android.
If and when these issues are solved, I would be happy to use Android full time on my Rhodium. Though I am still perfectly content with WinMo, it's just nice to have options.
GPS is the feature that I miss the most.
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Sound is not critical, even on WinMo I rarely use it.
The biggest issue for me currently is the very low in-call speaker volume. After that, speakerphone functionality, then power managment and charging.
Working hardware 3d acceleration would be a big plus as web browsing can be quite sluggish on Android.
If and when these issues are solved, I would be happy to use Android full time on my Rhodium. Though I am still perfectly content with WinMo, it's just nice to have options.
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+1 on the in-call spkr. Vol.- I wouldn't mind only bein able to use the spkrphone, as long as it was loud enough to hear
Wep wifi would be awfully nice for me too
But sound does rank right up there.
Sound is a big deal to me as I use it all of the time. Visual Voice Mail is the the killer app and I have figured out how to load and activate it in android but obviously cannot hear it, so its useless.
Plus a ringtone is a nice thing for a phone to have.
It would be nice since it would allow my friend to hear the one Google Voice voicemail that he's been bugging me about for so long to hear. Not that it matters. I would rather use WM for listening to music anyways. Maybe once the Android builds are faster I might consider it.
Sound would be really nice to have, especially since I recently found a tone dialer/red box/blue box app to play with, but it's not completely necessary for me to use the OS. The biggest issues for me are the overall UI lag and short battery life. From what I understand from reading the IRC logs, the developers may know why the sound isn't working now, but it probably won't be a simple fix. Also, AFAIK many of the developers are busy with their lives right now, so now likely isn't the time we're going to be getting sound. I can wait, though.
For me - Sound is not important at all. I would like to have GPS first, HW3d, Camera then sound.
I suggest that instead of polling on sound only, maybe we should pull on the order, or the feature people wanted the most...
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First of all, I love Android on my Sprint Touch Pro2. The work being done here is awesome. It turns my phone into such an awesome toy.
The one thing keeping me from using Android more is the in call volume. It's just too low. It makes it so I can't really use the phone as a phone. I know this has been brought up before...but its the one feature I'm looking forward to the most....The ability to crank up the in-call sound. Anyone else agree?
Agreed. When I know I am going to need to make a couple calls I always switch back to winmo. In call volume is too low to use in a car or any public place.
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in call sound is the only reason i boot into winmo
i dont use sound for anything in winmo, i've never heard my ringtone and rarely use it for music or video), but the call volume needs work
Incoming call volume seems to be better than outgoing. anyone else having the same behavior?
that is sound
first of all that does deal with sound if you read up they dont know why the in call sound works at all it just did so to get it to be louder they need the sound to work first so yeah they should get fixed at the same time
My in call volume in WM is low too. Everything audio is low I noticed for the TP2.
I agree too. The call sound is more important than the other features. Winmo sound is fine for me. Can hardly hear in Android.
We realize the issue, but complaining about it doesnt help the situation, do some research and possibly you could fix it. You guys give the Devs no credit at all. Appreciate what is working.
I gotta say i'm pretty impressed with it (of course i'm starting with the latest build and so a lot of the earlier things have been worked out) I'm amazed that it's more snappy than the native wm 6.5, I give a lot of credit to the Devs and looking forward to testing out the other features, it's really breathed new life into my TP2 i'm happy to kick WM6.5 to the curb.
Well you got what you asked for. Supposedly the In-call volume issue has been fixed with the latest zimage update. I've yet to verify it (Updating at the moment)
Yeah!
Wow, that's awesome. The sound is really loud now. A huge improvement. Thanks to whoever made this happen!
i know im gonna get blasted for this but i guess i might not have searched hard enough. Can someone post a link for the Zimage update to help the sound?
No problem. It's all in the Project Tracking section of the webpage: http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/project-tracking
and right under "Current Kernel Build" is where you will find all the latest zimage updates and it's instructions on how to update it. If I'm not mistaken doesn't the Update Utility work? I wouldn't know since I barely use it.
Also in a few days the package will get updated to include the latest zimage incase your still having problems with it. You may need 7-zip http://www.7-zip.org/ for extracting the contents to your Windows PC. If your unsure which type of windows you have then you most likely have the 32-bit version.
OMG.... I have missed a number of calls due to this stupid bug. A goddamn smartphone in 2011 does not have a seperate volume control for the ringtone... wtf? I dont care about copy-paste, multitasking or quad core proccys but plz MS just fix this fcuking bug. This is the only issue on my Samsung Focus that bugs the hell out of me.
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How is that a bug? Its more of a missing feature... One that doesn't require you to get so upset over... And it's your own fault for missing the calls, knowing the phone doesn't have the separate volume control you should be more attentive to your volume because I definitely don't have this problem.
I agree with the OP. There is no excuse for not having separate volume controls. It's easy to miss calls or other important events because of it.
Yes but when you use your phone for gaming and listening to music this IS a problem. I have to reduce the volume when using my in-ear headphones and I always remember to increase it after taking them off but the times when I forget to do this, its a real pain to hear your friends scream at you for not picking up their calls on time.
And these are the same friends who I am trying to convince into buying a WP7 instead of an iPhone/Android, so yes it is frustrating.
The least MS can do is have independent settings for headphones and the speaker phone, this way when you do take out your headphones it reverts back.
While yes, I would prefer different volume controls, I stand by my statement, its your fault. This isn't a bug that needs to be fixed, it's a feature request. I listen to music on my phone all day long as well... But I'm on top of my volume controls... And I do agree separate controls would make it easier... And if your friends scream at you because you need to return a call 5 minutes later, maybe you need new friends.
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OMG.... I have missed a number of calls due to this stupid bug. A goddamn smartphone in 2011 does not have a seperate volume control for the ringtone... wtf?
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Me too. it's really a shame.
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Isn't a fix in the next NoDo update ?!
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While yes, I would prefer different volume controls, I stand by my statement, its your fault. This isn't a bug that needs to be fixed, it's a feature request. I listen to music on my phone all day long as well... But I'm on top of my volume controls... And I do agree separate controls would make it easier... And if your friends scream at you because you need to return a call 5 minutes later, maybe you need new friends.
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lol... yeah I will need new friends if MS does not fix this sooner
But seriously dude it is a real pain and a required feature. I agree its not a bug but a cell phone does need to have an independent ringer volume so yeah its kinda a required feature. Its not a problem when you have your phone with you but if you are at home during weekends/holidays/nights its a big deal.
I fully agree with OP. The way volume control is implemented (or rather not implemented at all) is Embarrassing. There is quite a number of other really basic features or settings missing from WP 7. I can only wonder why they care so much with delivering copy and paste before bringing basic stuff like proper volume control, speed dial et c.
I would suggest trying an application called Media Volume Settings. This allows control over the media volume seperate from the ringger volume.
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I would suggest trying an application called Media Volume Settings. This allows control over the media volume seperate from the ringger volume.
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Useless, waste of time.
fongfc said:
Useless, waste of time.
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Care to explain why??
Might help people more then just dismissing it....
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Care to explain why??
Might help people more then just dismissing it....
Sent from my fingers to your face...
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I will. I tried that app early on and found it to be useless for conveniently controlling the volume. Once you have the volume, in-app, set and go to your media, it seems to be fine. But once you alter the built-in volume, it screws with the volume app and seems to bypass it. You always have to go to the volume app to make any changes...in a game or music, leave game or music to open volume app to change volume. Then go back to game or music. Find the music or game still just not at the right volume? Go back to volume app, slightly change it, go back to music or game and analyze.
The app doesn't integrate well.
I agree with OP! I also have a problem where if I play a game and I try to listen to music after wards the music is very low even at max only after I turn the phone on and off does it revert back to normal
I agree that it is not the best solution but it atleast gives you the option of having the ring tone up load enough to hear without blasting all forms of media.
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I agree with OP! I also have a problem where if I play a game and I try to listen to music after wards the music is very low even at max only after I turn the phone on and off does it revert back to normal
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This can be solved by using Media Volume Settings in the Marketplace. It has a fully functional free ad-supported version. Have you even read this thread? It's literally only 2 pages.
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Yes but when you use your phone for gaming and listening to music this IS a problem. I have to reduce the volume when using my in-ear headphones and I always remember to increase it after taking them off but the times when I forget to do this, its a real pain to hear your friends scream at you for not picking up their calls on time.
And these are the same friends who I am trying to convince into buying a WP7 instead of an iPhone/Android, so yes it is frustrating.
The least MS can do is have independent settings for headphones and the speaker phone, this way when you do take out your headphones it reverts back.
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have you tried "Media Volume Setting" in the marketplace?
App is not a solution
I agree with OP, this is an incredibly frustrating problem.
Unfortunately, it is consistent with the rest of the OS, i.e. *completely dumbed down*.
I listen to podcasts before I sleep most evenings. I like to listen with the volume on 1.
However, I always have to try and remember to turn it back up to a high setting so that I can hear my alarm (assuming it sounds, that is... but that's another story).
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While yes, I would prefer different volume controls, I stand by my statement, its your fault. This isn't a bug that needs to be fixed, it's a feature request. I listen to music on my phone all day long as well... But I'm on top of my volume controls... And I do agree separate controls would make it easier... And if your friends scream at you because you need to return a call 5 minutes later, maybe you need new friends.
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It's not his fault. The phone really should offer different volume controls for media and the phone ringer. I agree it's just not logical to have both in the same area, especially since the phone really foroces you to use headsets for so much stuff (notwithstanding the fact that sound quality on HTC phones are terrible, but FM Radio will not work without a headset, EQ is required to make some music sound decent, and that requires a headset, among other things). Sorry, but only a dumb person, or one hard of hearing, would have their phone blasting at near max volume in their ears.
When the phone is playing media, it the volume controls should be for media only - not the ringer.
It's Microsoft's fault. They went out of their way to put as few settings into the OS as possible. You'd think a company that has been maintaining a smartphone OS for at least a decade would at least have the basics down by now.
And no, he doesn't need new friends. A call can be an emergency, and in an emergency sometimes you don't have 5 minutes to return the call. You need to hear the phone ringing, and take that call.
Imagine someone from the school calling you about your child and you return the call 5 minutes later and say "LOL sorry I didn't hear my ringer, was listening to some Podcasts and forgot to put the Volume back up."
It's embarassing, clunkly, illogical, and just a ****ty way to implement this.
Agreed also about needing to have separate volume controls. Right now I keep my phone on vibrate and that helps to minimize the issue but hopefully MS adds this feature later.
Hi,
Quick question about the way this device records sound. Its by far the best phone ive ever used to record sound, however i keep running into a problem with volume levels. It never stays constant and fluctuates depending on whether the sound is loud or quiet.
Now that wont make sense at first so heres a link to a video i shot in the studio with some friends.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zjcbpfrutvvgher/lemon eyes - 12-06-12.mp4
Note at around 2:20 in the volume changes quite dramatically. I assure you, in real life the volume of the sound was constant throughout the song, the only change was that both guitars had stopped playing, thus decreasing the decibel level slightly (the guitar sounds at that point were from the effects pedals), which surely wouldve made it quieter if anything
I dont believe this a manufacturing defect as ive had it on the past 4 HOX's i owned, but perhaps more to do the way the sound is processed. It is the same result recording in mono/stereo/720/1080 etc.
EDIT Just remembered, i had to turn my speakers up all the way to hear that properly so the recording level is far too quiet as it is. I can barely hear it through the phones speaker.
Yeah got same problem,
I did turn the stereo off in video options which did improve it. Give it a go and turn the Stereo feature off.
The sound was not dropping as much,
I tested this out at a footy match.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8JOakdfFE0
Thats a temporary fix i suppose, it did improve it though it didnt fix it for me.
Does anybody know if this is something that is likely to be resolved by a software update? Or can anybody recommend any apps to record this type of thing with if it is a software issue.
So, this is not a new issue, but one that's been annoying the living crap out of me as of late.
The volume with calls and voicemails is INSANE. It is so loud that I can't use normal headphones even on the lowest setting without hurting my ears. Without headphones, I can comfortably conduct phone calls with the phone at arms length (like it is on speaker phone -- though it isn't). I don't remember having this issue with Cyanogen on my Evo, but I can't run ASOP on the Note without losing some of the key features of owning the device. Furthermore, I'm happy with the current software + Nova and only want to get rid of this volume issue.
I've tried every imaginable setting under Settings > Sound and the "Call Settings" in the phone dialer's own configuration menu. My assumption is that this "feature" was rolled out for stupid or nearly deaf people who kept complaining that they couldn't hear callers. It seems that the phone is digitally boosting the sound as loud as it can go and then passing it to the DAC (but only for the default voicemail and dialer apps as far as I can tell). I suppose I could try and fix this by messing with the DAC settings in STweaks, but that would bork things like media volume since they don't have the living **** (apparently XDA feels that they need to censor euphemisms for poo ) boosted out of them and wouldn't actually tackle the root cause.
Anyone know if there is a way to change this setting? It's completely unacceptable that my choices are to either damage my hearing or invite everyone else in the room to listen in to my conversation.
For reference, I'm using the digiblur ROM (basically stripped stock).
Hello xda,
Any time I receive a text or mail the notification sound starts low but quickly ramps up in volume. Is anyone experiencing this as well? Is there a way to set this so it's loud from the start? Hope that makes sense.
I appreciate your help and time
I noticed when the phone rings sounds only by the lower speaker, and sound very low and muffled.
Genetic517 said:
Hello xda,
Any time I receive a text or mail the notification sound starts low but quickly ramps up in volume. Is anyone experiencing this as well? Is there a way to set this so it's loud from the start? Hope that makes sense.
I appreciate your help and time
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Have you found any solutions?
Robert's PDA said:
Have you found any solutions?
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it seems no one has been able to solve, i can´t believe that nobody notice this bug
I've noticed it too but just figured it was normal.
Genetic517 said:
Hello xda,
Any time I receive a text or mail the notification sound starts low but quickly ramps up in volume. Is anyone experiencing this as well? Is there a way to set this so it's loud from the start? Hope that makes sense.
I appreciate your help and time
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Do you have pocket mode enabled under the sound settings?
lampel said:
Do you have pocket mode enabled under the sound settings?
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Turning off "Pocket Mode" did make a "slight" improvement, but not much. Thanks for the tip though. :good:
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it seems no one has been able to solve, i can´t believe that nobody notice this bug
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Many others (including myself) have noticed and posted about this issue here (though not enough in my opinion). It's not restricted to notifications and ringtones either, it happens with *all* sounds on the phone.
Unfortunately, there is no way to fix it. Different sound drivers, updated firmware, build.prop settings... Nothing seems to get rid of this "speaker protection" crap. I am still hopeful to someday see a mod or firmware update that addresses it though, because after trying all those different things, I've run out of ideas.
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I've also noticed that, it sounds fine when I preview notifications and ringtones, but when the phone actually rings it is a lot more quiet and muted. It does appear that the top speaker is not being used for ringtones. I'll try to call htc, let's see what they say.
Called HTC, spoke with a girl who sounded like she was following some sort of flowchart. Needless to say she couldn't help and concluded that it was a defective hardware. I tried to explain that others are having the same issue and it appears to be a bug, but I don't think she understood. They are sending me a new phone. I'm sure the new phone will have the same issue. Maybe if more people call HTC with this issue, they will figure it out.
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Called HTC, spoke with a girl who sounded like she was following some sort of flowchart. Needless to say she couldn't help and concluded that it was a defective hardware. I tried to explain that others are having the same issue and it appears to be a bug, but I don't think she understood. They are sending me a new phone. I'm sure the new phone will have the same issue. Maybe if more people call HTC with this issue, they will figure it out.
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Hi there
the same problem here, without any mod, crack o root solution. But the difference were the answer from HTC technical support: " this is a technical and engineering design, it´s not a bug", this mean: " f**** you costumer, and again, a new dissapoint from HTC. I has tried in several forums, here in XDA and another ones: nothing for to do, i loose my faith in the HTC 10. It´s very frustating because a little detail ( the ringtone volume and quality) destroy a overall experience
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the answer from HTC technical support: " this is a technical and engineering design,
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OH, so they know about it? This is a technical and engineering design fu**-up. My notifications are half the volume of the M8. If that is their answer, then I will probably return my phone.
Any solutions yet?
On mine it rings from the bottom speaker for about 3 rings, quiet, then ramps up and uses the top speaker too. With V4a on now once the top speaker kicks in it's very loud. It gives me a chance to answer it before it blasts me out.
I just bought a new htc 10 and quickly noticed this annoying sound fading in issue, searched online and this seems to be the only place talked about it with no solution, does everybody else really okay with this??
I guess at least it sounded fine when using headphone, but with this speaker fading crap everything sound like its echoing right now. This NEEDS to get solved.
Any solution ?
I came here to search for any ways to turn this "feature" off (and that's what it is, despite how nobody asked for it or wanted it). Looks like nobody has found any solutions. But here's my theory anyway:
The "fading in" volume effect must be a function of the Boom Sound software. It's a noise gate. And it sucks. For instance, try listening to any music that has any hard hits around any silence (a good example is "Brain Stew" by Green Day). It's really annoying.
I wish somebody could figure out how to disable the Boom Sound software altogether.
According to Google, https://www.google.com/search?newwi...0i22i30k1j33i22i29i30k1j33i21k1.0.leWX0kmgR6I it's a known Feature of Android 5, and many people complain about it, but there is no way to disable it.
Some people can workaround the issue, on some rom, with some apps or players; there is no universal solution.
In the best case, some chat app will not bell if they are already full screen; and this is an issue for me because if I have my phone plugged, and display timeout is 1h, then, it won't bell for incoming messages, and if I am >1m from it, I won't know people are talking to me. That's why I try to always make all apps always bell. But, if I am listening to music, the permanent bell that comes with intense chat may turn the music off all the time.
I not sure if I shall downgrade my phone to Android 4, 2.2, or 1.8 ...
.. arg, I am stupid, those versions have never been ported for my most recent phone.