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Vodafone UK - New AKU2 rom coming soon

Hi All,
Just spoke to my Vodafone corporate account manager, and he tells me that the AKU2 update will be available for the v1640 within the month.
When it's out, you will be able to download it from:
http://www.vodafone.co.uk/dataworld
Bagpuss.

i've been reliably informed that its due tomorrow
oh and the HTC Hermes is due June 06

I just wish that release dates on these sort of things were even half way reliable.

nice one! At last I will be able to run the latest rom on my universal and it be a Vodafone branded one too! Ive never known vodafone to release firmwares for there htc handsets so this will be a first!

belfast-biker said:
I just wish that release dates on these sort of things were even half way reliable.
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i know. vodafone are really really bad at this kind of thing. if you want a Blackberry, they'll bend over backwards. but Windows Mobile? "erm, its not on our list, sorry"
anyhoo, moan over. i've been told that the update should appear on this website: http://www.vodafone-dataworld.co.uk/default.aspx?pageId=21. at the moment, theres only a Blackberry update there (oh the irony)

Google Test

We've been hearing about the Desire possibly not passing the Google test which caused the delay in its release.
The question is: What is a Google Test? and I doubt it but doesn't anyone know why it failed the test? I am wondering as HTC has the longest and most experience with Android OS, so it makes me wonder!

salahag said:
We've been hearing about the Desire possibly not passing the Google test which caused the delay in its release.
The question is: What is a Google Test? and I doubt it but doesn't anyone know why it failed the test? I am wondering as HTC has the longest and most experience with Android OS, so it makes me wonder!
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Google test is what it means, ... Google testing the Android OS before allowing the manufacturers to ship.
It has been approved on Friday, thats why its getting delayed (thats for the unlocked version), .. T-mobile have their own version of the OS, and theirs got approved earlier by google than the unlocked versions, thats why they are out now

expansys France delayd it too but expansys UAE is still saying available within 5 days
I hope the Desire will not be delayed in Middle East

Bell customers - don't expect NoDo or any updates in the future

I just had a live chat with their "customer service". This is the familiar realization that there will not be updates released for Bell customers. Read below...
A chat representative will be with you in about 0 minute(s). Thank you for waiting.
Chat representative Claire has joined the session and is ready to help. To start, please provide your name and home phone number.
You: Hi Claire
Claire: Hello, thanks for visiting bell.ca. How can I help you today?
You: I was wondering if you knew when the NoDo update for windows phone 7 is being released from Bell?
You: Just cause Microsoft released it weeks ago
Claire: Sure, I will help you with that.
Claire: Are you an existing Bell Mobility customer?
You: Yes, I have an LG Quantum, my wife has an iPhone, we have Bell TV, home phone, and two other cell lines
Claire: Thank you for being a loyal customer to Bell. Kindly stay online while I transfer this chat to our support queue, would request your patience if the chat remains in the queue for a few minutes in case the support reps are busy helping other customers. We thank you for your patience.
You: No problem!
Please wait. We are transferring you to the specialist best suited to help you.
Welcome to bell.ca! You are chatting with Marlena. To assist you, may I please have your name and mobile phone number with area code?
Marlena: Hello and welcome to Bell Mobility's chat service. How can I help you today?
you: Hi there, I was wondering if you knew when the NoDo update was being released for Windows Phone 7?
Marlena: For more information concerning software updates for your device, please visit this link: Software updates for your handset.
Marlena: Is there anything else I can help you with today?
you: My phone (LG Quantum) isn't listed in the link you gave me
you: LG C900 to be exact I think
Marlena: Did you check your phone under tools to see if there is an update available?
you: And it's not an over-the-air update, windows phone 7 updates through Zune desktop PC software
you: Yes I checked that. I know Microsoft released the NoDo update to the carriers, and that now the carriers are holding up the release of it
Marlena: Well if the phone shows there is no updates that means there is none available at this time.
you: ...ok yes I am aware of that. I'm wondering if you know -when- it will be available
Marlena: No I'm sorry we don't have that info.
you: hang on a second please...
you: Please navigate to this link: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-schedule-world.aspx
you: Under "Bell" is says "delivering update"
you: Someone must know, a manager or engineer?
Marlena: Please check your phone for any updates that may come in the future, this info is not provided to us or managers any sooner than it is to you.
Marlena: Is there anything else I can help you with today?
you: I don't understand, how can Bell not know what is going on with its own company?
Marlena: I'm afraid I have nothing new to add to what was already said, the info that you are looking for is not available at this time.
you: Ok who in your company would be aware of the updates?
you: SOMEONE has to know
you: Corporate office?
Marlena: As previously mentioned this info is not provided to us or managers any sooner than it is to you.
you: Thank you, but I asked that SOMEONE at Bell must know. There has to be some person who is aware of windows phone 7 updates
you: Another amazing experience with Bell. Thanks
(long pause)
Marlena: Thank you for chatting with me. Please click the "Close" button on the top right of the chat window to tell me how I did today. Enjoy your day!
Marlena: Bye.
Your chat representative has ended the chat session. We thank you for using this service and we hope to have answered all your questions.
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If I was the CEO of this company and saw this I would be appalled. My goodness they're so helpful and so nice.
So if anyone is familiar with Bell and how they handle things, you can see the writing on the wall. Not gonna happen. And don't expect Mango either.

If it says "Delivering Update" then its in Microsoft's hands, not Bell.

Just click on the update option in phone settings in Zune and then turn off Wifi. You'll get the update.
They are contractually obligated to allow the update since they skipped Pre-Nodo, FYI. The timeframe is up to Microsoft at this point.

Umm... I think the original post is an over-reaction, and the subject line is misleading.
Here are a couple of posts from Mobile Syrup, showing that Bell is delivering the update to the LG Quantum and HD7:
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/03/29/wp7-nodo-upgrade-now-available-on-the-bell-lg-optimus-quantum/
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/01/bell-htc-hd7-receives-windows-phone-7-nodo-update/
If you followed the whole initial delivery system fiasco, the MS delivery schedule update, and looked at the document provided by MS, you would know that:
The updates for a given provider are pushed out over several weeks. Your device may not be on the list to be notified yet.
MS controls the device-specific delivery schedule and updates are pushed from MS servers. Bell isn't going to be able to tell you when your particular update will arrive (though she could have provided the range of dates).
All devices will eventually get the update.
There is no call to claim that users should not expect the Nodo update if they are on Bell (or any other provider showing "Delivering update" as the status on the MS page). The tech support person told you "Please check your phone for any updates that may come in the future, this info is not provided to us or managers any sooner than it is to you." That is because the update is pushed directly from MS servers once Bell signs off on it. MS knows when your device will get the update in the next few weeks... Bell does not.
If you don't want to wait, use one of the Zune disconnect NIC tricks to get your update now (there are quite a few sets of instructions floating around here, and you don't even have to modify anything on your device other than whether wifi is on).

thesecondsfade said:
Just click on the update option in phone settings in Zune and then turn off Wifi. You'll get the update.
They are contractually obligated to allow the update since they skipped Pre-Nodo, FYI. The timeframe is up to Microsoft at this point.
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I actually got the pre-NoDo. But my phone didn't notify me, Zune did when I connected.
And I know about the wifi trick, but I'm hesitant to do that in case I miss some handset-specific updates or what have you. You just never know.

VelJharig said:
Umm... I think the original post is an over-reaction, and the subject line is misleading.
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I disagree. In the links you posted I'm not sure where they got those images from, but Bell has definitely not released NoDo.
I've dealt with this company for years, I know them like John McClane knows the Grubers. Bell will not be releasing any updates. While I sure hope I'm wrong, but I'd put money on it and write it on a stone tablet. Ain't no one getting updates the official way.

If you have dealt with Bell for as long as you have, and with their ExpressVu portion as well, then you should have also learnt a very long time ago that these reps, and nearly anyone you speak to in any of their stores or kiosks, are clueless on anything other than what current promotion they are pushing, as they read that from a cue card.
For example, I went into the Bell store here on launch day for WP7.... they had no effing clue what I was talking about. Hadn't even HEARD of Windows Phone 7. So should I assume that Bell won't be selling any Windows Phones? Or should I realize that these people (as in store salesmen and generic help-line staff) are at the bottom of the totem pole, and don't really know much beyond the bare minimum?
I recieved my pre-NoDo notification for my Optimus Quantum on my phone, fyi. I think you are jumping the gun; I bet you could call that same person the day after Bell releases the NoDo update, and you would get the EXACT same response.

She said that she gets this information at the same time as you do. Why keep harrassing the person?

the92playboy said:
If you have dealt with Bell for as long as you have, and with their ExpressVu portion as well, then you should have also learnt a very long time ago that these reps, and nearly anyone you speak to in any of their stores or kiosks, are clueless on anything other than what current promotion they are pushing, as they read that from a cue card.
For example, I went into the Bell store here on launch day for WP7.... they had no effing clue what I was talking about. Hadn't even HEARD of Windows Phone 7. So should I assume that Bell won't be selling any Windows Phones? Or should I realize that these people (as in store salesmen and generic help-line staff) are at the bottom of the totem pole, and don't really know much beyond the bare minimum?
I recieved my pre-NoDo notification for my Optimus Quantum on my phone, fyi. I think you are jumping the gun; I bet you could call that same person the day after Bell releases the NoDo update, and you would get the EXACT same response.
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Good points.
I still believe 100% that Bell will not be releasing any updates, but you do make good points here.

sure haven't said:
I disagree. In the links you posted I'm not sure where they got those images from, but Bell has definitely not released NoDo.
I've dealt with this company for years, I know them like John McClane knows the Grubers. Bell will not be releasing any updates. While I sure hope I'm wrong, but I'd put money on it and write it on a stone tablet. Ain't no one getting updates the official way.
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I don't understand. You just claimed in the previous post you got pre-nodo. Am I correct in assuming you are just hung up on the fact that your phone isn't notifying you about an update, instead of you having to do it yourself by running zune?

sure haven't said:
I disagree. In the links you posted I'm not sure where they got those images from, but Bell has definitely not released NoDo.
I've dealt with this company for years, I know them like John McClane knows the Grubers. Bell will not be releasing any updates. While I sure hope I'm wrong, but I'd put money on it and write it on a stone tablet. Ain't no one getting updates the official way.
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MS Worldwide update schedule:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-schedule-world.aspx
From the commenter that provided the pictures in this link:
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/03/29/wp7-nodo-upgrade-now-available-on-the-bell-lg-optimus-quantum/
"When I got the notification for an update yesterday morning I did not have to do anything special. Just came up on my phone while connected to Zune.
Both checkboxes in Settings/PhoneUpdate have been checked and, as it happens, my WIFI was off. Message just popped up on the phone.
First install froze on step 6. It asked for a phone to be connected to the PC. It already was. After a 10 min wait I just unplugged the phone restarted Zune and everything went smooth.
Works well, Copy and Paste are simple and intuitive. Market place is definitely more responsive. Other than that the phone OS seams very similar in speed/performance. Can vouch for any overall OS speed boosts like other have noticed. My biggest complaint is that camera settings are not saved and this is still true with NoDo. But this is primarily a phone after all"
--Posted by Sasha | March 30, 2011, 11:16 am
That sounds to me like Bell has authorized Nodo device updates as of at least the 30th, and that updates are going out through official channels. It doesn't get delivered through Zune to a carrier device (without hacking or interfering with Zune) unless the carrier has signed off on the update.
When we have personal testimony from Bell customers that they are receiving the Nodo update (with photographic evidence), and that corresponds with the MS statement that they are delivering the update to Bell customers (over 2-3 weeks)... explain to me again why we should believe you?
Your assurance based on random internet authority that Bell is not going to provide the Nodo update is not compelling. All you are doing is spreading FUD unnecessarily.

VelJharig said:
MS Worldwide update schedule:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-schedule-world.aspx
From the commenter that provided the pictures in this link:
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/03/29/wp7-nodo-upgrade-now-available-on-the-bell-lg-optimus-quantum/
"When I got the notification for an update yesterday morning I did not have to do anything special. Just came up on my phone while connected to Zune.
Both checkboxes in Settings/PhoneUpdate have been checked and, as it happens, my WIFI was off. Message just popped up on the phone.
First install froze on step 6. It asked for a phone to be connected to the PC. It already was. After a 10 min wait I just unplugged the phone restarted Zune and everything went smooth.
Works well, Copy and Paste are simple and intuitive. Market place is definitely more responsive. Other than that the phone OS seams very similar in speed/performance. Can vouch for any overall OS speed boosts like other have noticed. My biggest complaint is that camera settings are not saved and this is still true with NoDo. But this is primarily a phone after all"
--Posted by Sasha | March 30, 2011, 11:16 am
That sounds to me like Bell has authorized Nodo device updates as of at least the 30th, and that updates are going out through official channels. It doesn't get delivered through Zune to a carrier device (without hacking or interfering with Zune) unless the carrier has signed off on the update.
When we have personal testimony from Bell customers that they are receiving the Nodo update (with photographic evidence), and that corresponds with the MS statement that they are delivering the update to Bell customers (over 2-3 weeks)... explain to me again why we should believe you?
Your assurance based on random internet authority that Bell is not going to provide the Nodo update is not compelling. All you are doing is spreading FUD unnecessarily.
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That lovely mobile syrup link contains two random pictures, and then you repost something from the comments section to counter my position? I don't know that person, neither do you, and it's in no way an official response from Bell.
You know, I'm sorry, I wasn't aware you had a single piece of anecdotal evidence. You're right, I must already have the update.
I never said I had the authority, I just said don't expect it. I'm not.

[Q] [update] Official Gingerbread 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 for Desire HD from HTC

Hello Guys,
I am seeing numerous reports from users of the HTC Desire HD saying that they are currently receiving an update to Android 2.3.5 with HTC’s Sense 3.0.
Some one also informed that with Bluetooth 3.0 (confirmation needed).
Please let us know who are all got this official update, with country, carrier, branded/unbranded mobile information.

Let me post mine,
Country: India
Carrier: Airtel
Branded/Unbranded : Unbranded
Upate: Not Yet

Today I have sent an email to HTC India and got a negative response
Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and answering all of your questions and concerns.
To clarify your issue, you stated that: You want upgrade for Android 2.3.5 and HTC Sense 3.0 for HTC Desire HD.
In this regard we would like to inform you that that our goal is to give every customer the best possible experience on every phone. Every HTC phone is a combination of a unique HTC hardware and software experience and a core operating system. We only update our phones if it will provide an overall improved user experience as we balance features, performance and usability. Once ROM upgrade will be available you can find it from following link: http://www.htc.com/in/help/, currently upgrade for HTC Sense 3.0 and Android 2.3.5 is not available for HTC Desire HD.
You can also call our Call Center at: 1800 1033 566
Service Hours: 9.30 AM To 5.30 PM (Mon - Sat)
if you have further questions.
Thank you once again for your continued patronage.
They always say nothing is there for you. Same old answer when Gingerbread was announced by Google. They totally forget the old mobile and stop giving updates. I dont know why they even manufacture a phone for those they cant even give minimum 2 years update

I too tried... No updates from them in India

Still no Update in India for HTC Desire HD and I am loosing my patients

Mine (in the UK) has just updated....

Congrats amulet Please post your review with your new update. How sense look like and especially about the Bluetooth 3.0 update

HTC has stated that there are some technical issues with the update and they will be sorted out soon, so if you are not getting the update be patient.

i wish i have never make this update, in Romania the update came OTA for about a month ago. Since then my phone is not so "personal", i have a big problem with the mail app, it syncs whenever it wants...i tried everything, talked to the HTC support and they told me that i have to send my phone to service, it's a bug i think in the new 2.3.5 version. Until this version my phone was personal.....now it has it's own personality.....doing things randomly.

I was waiting to on this update, now i have ROM Android Revolution HD™ 6.3.1 from this forum and problem is solved, why waiting.

Hello Guys, DHD update is available for India now

T-mobile uk branded firmware update

So Vodafone and 3 have released a branded 1.28 update...T-mobile refuse to even acknowledge it exists (even though 1.29 is out now for unbranded). I have asked everywhere and met a total wall of silence regarding updates from t-mobile.
So my plan now is to ask every branded t-mobile uk customer to tweet t-mobile's support asking for ANY information regarding updates to our bug ridden HOX. The standard reply is 'we don't get told until it is released'. That is not good enough we wont need to ask when it is released, I don't believe in this day and age someone internally can't at least let us know if anything is in test...
There are people who haven't had updates for their phones that were released months ago. I don't want to let t-mobile off the hook and do the same to us..
Tweet and let them know your feelings on this...
@TMobileUKhelp

TMobile HTC One X firmware update.
Very disapointed with Tmobile. I've just twitted them re the updates and I'm hoping for a reply.

jm1286 said:
Very disapointed with Tmobile. I've just twitted them re the updates and I'm hoping for a reply.
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I can tell you the reply:
"We cannot give you any details until the update is rolled out"
Boooooo!!
I dont care if they are not updating to it, i would just like to know that!

Susan: Hi there, my name is Susan. I am part of the dedicated T-Mobile Online Sales Team. How can I help you with your new order?
Mark: Hello do you know if T-Mobile plan to release the 1.28 software update for the HTC One X?
Susan: Hi Mark
Susan: Please bear with me while I check that information for you
Mark: ok thank you
Susan: At the moment we haven't planned yet for the same.
Susan: However I'll forward your request on my behalf.
Mark: ok onto who?

Facebook reply
Hi, I posted on t-mobile uk Facebook first about the 1.28 update and this was the reply I got "Hello Gary. I have heard nothing about the 1.28; nothing at all. If we get any information on this, it will be getting posted out. Thank you. David, T-Mobile Facebook Team"
Then asked about the 1.29 about an hour later and this was the reply I got "Hello Gary. At present, we do not know and there are occasions where we don't receive details regarding some updates until they have been released on the network. Thank you. David, T-Mobile Facebook Team."
So not helpful information from the Facebook side of things and I just sent HTC a message asking if they know, so far no reply but will let you know if anything comes of it.

Creyni said:
Hi, I posted on t-mobile uk Facebook first about the 1.28 update and this was the reply I got "Hello Gary. I have heard nothing about the 1.28; nothing at all. If we get any information on this, it will be getting posted out. Thank you. David, T-Mobile Facebook Team"
Then asked about the 1.29 about an hour later and this was the reply I got "Hello Gary. At present, we do not know and there are occasions where we don't receive details regarding some updates until they have been released on the network. Thank you. David, T-Mobile Facebook Team."
So not helpful information from the Facebook side of things and I just sent HTC a message asking if they know, so far no reply but will let you know if anything comes of it.
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All HTC will say is it depends on the networks testing policies.
I do think HTC should make all networks carrying there phone upgrade within x amount of weeks.

Okay well I also tweeted t-mobile as you suggested will see if what I get as a reply, more than like nothing of any help.

Creyni said:
Okay well I also tweeted t-mobile as you suggested will see if what I get as a reply, more than like nothing of any help.
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Thing to do it email them, use the contact us section and just say you wish they could give more news.

Cheers guys. they have chosen to totally ignore my tweet first thing this morning. Like you say even a 'no we are not testing it' would at least be something..
I will keep going with this until they cut me off

oxfordmark said:
Thing to do it email them, use the contact us section and just say you wish they could give more news.
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Cheers will do so

oxfordmark said:
Thing to do it email them, use the contact us section and just say you wish they could give more news.
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Will be doing that (over and over) as well. lol

Guys. I work for T-Mobile and can tell you that updates are low priority with all that's going on. People are not talking to each other. Even our mce toolbox is way behind on updates. All focus seems to be on 4g and stream lining staff in all departments. The same goes for orange
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n1kon said:
Guys. I work for T-Mobile and can tell you that updates are low priority with all that's going on. People are not talking to each other. Even our mce toolbox is way behind on updates. All focus seems to be on 4g and stream lining staff in all departments. The same goes for orange
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If true, that's poor. Business must go on as usual despite "changes" to an organisation.

O2 just rumoured to be releasing update in about a week. so that will just leave orange and t-mobile customers with bug ridden handsets....
Think there is a lesson here...I hope you still have some customers when you get round to releasing 4G (capped speeds anybody)...
Looks like rooting the way to go...

scointer said:
O2 just rumoured to be releasing update in about a week. so that will just leave orange and t-mobile customers with bug ridden handsets....
Think there is a lesson here...I hope you still have some customers when you get round to releasing 4G (capped speeds anybody)...
Looks like rooting the way to go...
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Rooting has and will always be the way to go when you get a handset from a network. If the phone works as in calls text and web, well all services that we pay for then things like battery life ect are not a priority. Not to the networks anyway.
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n1kon said:
Rooting has and will always be the way to go when you get a handset from a network. If the phone works as in calls text and web, well all services that we pay for then things like battery life ect are not a priority. Not to the networks anyway.
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When will total debranding happen?
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scointer said:
So Vodafone and 3 have released a branded 1.28 update...T-mobile refuse to even acknowledge it exists (even though 1.29 is out now for unbranded). I have asked everywhere and met a total wall of silence regarding updates from t-mobile.
So my plan now is to ask every branded t-mobile uk customer to tweet t-mobile's support asking for ANY information regarding updates to our bug ridden HOX. The standard reply is 'we don't get told until it is released'. That is not good enough we wont need to ask when it is released, I don't believe in this day and age someone internally can't at least let us know if anything is in test...
There are people who haven't had updates for their phones that were released months ago. I don't want to let t-mobile off the hook and do the same to us..
Tweet and let them know your feelings on this...
@TMobileUKhelp
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Hey, i dont know if youve still got this problem but ive recently (10days ago) purchased the HTC one X on a Tmobile UK contract and i have the 1.28 update. all i done was turned phone on, put my wifi on and a meesage popped up for the update. If you havent already, maybe you should try that. best of luck anyways, just bumped into this post whilst looking for the 1.29 update.

did you buy it from T-mobile shop or elsewhere?

aadil_d said:
Hey, i dont know if youve still got this problem but ive recently (10days ago) purchased the HTC one X on a Tmobile UK contract and i have the 1.28 update. all i done was turned phone on, put my wifi on and a meesage popped up for the update. If you havent already, maybe you should try that. best of luck anyways, just bumped into this post whilst looking for the 1.29 update.
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You are running an unbranded handset with a TM sim...
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I had a reply from customer services... They do not have a clue!
They suggested I contact HTC...
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