Guys is it totally normal for your internet connection icon to continuously switch between 3G and H?? no matter whether I set it for WCDMA only or GSM / WCDMA auto..
I have noticed that when there is no current internet connection being made - the icon remains 3G, then when i connect to the internet it switches to H, but freezes up all the time. When I use my o2 sim on the same desire handset, the icon remains H and the speed is fast continuously without any pause or disruptions.
Any help would be much appreciated, also a copy of an APN for orange internet would be great so I could check it with mine.
Never noticed a H on mine. Only seen it go to 3G+
Mine goes between 3G and H all the time while im in my flat.
Not checked while im out.
Its probs a network thing, orange might not have a strong 3G+ network in your area so it keeps switching. I even seen mine on GPRS sometimes.
3G+ is HSDPA
What I'm trying to say is that my phone never displays a H just a 3G+. I have pretty good HSDPA coverage where I am
thanks for the replies - will keep testing my internet connection, still feel that o2 was faster but what the heck - the Desire was free so had to switch alliance!
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I've seen in my TyTN, WM6, radio 1.34 a (strange?) behaviour. I noticed with VODAFONE : I have a plain UMTS connection 3g icon and 3g data connection alive, used for push e-mail.
When I am in HSDPA area and data connection starts data transfer, I see a switch between 3G and H connection, then revert after 1-2 seconds ad the end of data transver back in UMTS mode.
Hypotesis:
1) Could be a simple WM6 LVSW edition bug
2) Could be a WM6 feature (HSDPA has well known problems in voice phone avaliability when active)
3) Could be a Vodafone Network feature, HSDPA onli when needed
4) 1.34 radio compatibility problem/feature?
5) ......
6) I am stupid and this is a well known fact
Question:
Any other wm6 user noticed same behaviour?
It has always worked like this, HSDPA is ON when you need it, not all the time.
thats part of the design, saving resources for the network.
elivne said:
It has always worked like this, HSDPA is ON when you need it, not all the time.
thats part of the design, saving resources for the network.
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This isn't working this way for all mobile phone providers in Italy, with TIM if you are in HSDPA area it will stay connected... and you're off-line if someone calls
May be we discovered why isn't enabled as DEFAULT setting and we need to enable using SetHSDPA.exe
sergiopi said:
This isn't working this way for all mobile phone providers in Italy, with TIM if you are in HSDPA area it will stay connected... and you're off-line if someone calls
May be we discovered why isn't enabled as DEFAULT setting and we need to enable using SetHSDPA.exe
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Ditto in Australia. If im connected to GPRS, the icon is permanently showing HSDPA... unless of course i only have GSM coverage (very rare!!).
In Taipei, it works exactly as elivne says... H only when needed.
Cheers
FWIW, I didn't experience proper "throttling" in and out of HSDPA mode until I upgraded to WM6 and radio 1.38 (not sure which to thank for it). Prior to that whenever I was in H coverage, the radio would run almost exclusively in H mode. Talk about battery drain! Currently I can run for almost 2 days between charges (and that's with push mail).
How a particular combination performs for you must depend a lot on the carrier, your locale, etc. Took a lot of "trial and error" for me.
Yep, I'm on UK T-Mobile, and my icon only switches from "3G" to "H" when it's active.
As vp3G says, it noticably saves battery power from the old "permanent HSDPA" behaviour. Although I can't claim to get 2 days usage out of mine.
It is a network feature. If you are inactive on HSDPA for t sec the network will downswitch you to UMTS ( called R99 ). Only 10 users can use the HSDPA at the same time and there is an inactivity timer ( t=10 sec) try to manage the traffic by moving inactive users to R99 ( max speed 384 kbps)
Thank you for sharing your knowlege Austin Boy....
..."and that's the way it is"
Cheers
austin_boy said:
Only 10 users can use the HSDPA at the same time and there is an inactivity timer ( t=10 sec) try to manage the traffic by moving inactive users to R99 ( max speed 384 kbps)
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Really only 10 simultaneous users? Seems like the odds of getting a timeslice when you need it would be virtually nil.
The 10 limitation can be increased by any operator by adding Channel elements (Radios) or more when adding another carrier ( frequency). Europe has more spectrum than the US and it is possible to get two carriers ( 2x5MHz) and use one for speech and the other for data. In the US we are sharing the spectrum between GSM and UMTS. AT&T will be migrating GSM to UMTS gradually and using the 850 band for UMTS before moving to LTE (4G)
sub69 said:
Yep, I'm on UK T-Mobile, and my icon only switches from "3G" to "H" when it's active.
As vp3G says, it noticably saves battery power from the old "permanent HSDPA" behaviour. Although I can't claim to get 2 days usage out of mine.
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I have a similar switching scenario.
Prior to flashing my Radio to 1.38.00.10 and ROM to Black 2.0 I tested my download speed at www.dslreports/mspeed and was please to see I got almost a 1Mb/sec rating.
However since the flashes I have re-tested and am now only getting 250-300 kb/sec. It may be the network, so I will try on a few separate occasions and different locations.
NB. I have enabled HSDPA in HTweaksC
I noticed during the test that the download bar jumps staright up immediately but then slows down quite a lot?
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I've seen in my TyTN, WM6, radio 1.34 a (strange?) behaviour. I noticed with VODAFONE : I have a plain UMTS connection 3g icon and 3g data connection alive, used for push e-mail.
When I am in HSDPA area and data connection starts data transfer, I see a switch between 3G and H connection, then revert after 1-2 seconds ad the end of data transver back in UMTS mode.
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3 ITA is working same way.
Enabling HSDPA only when there is data transfer active.
Okay tried again on my commute home, and also when I got to my house.
Speed is looking good ! getting up above the 1mb/sec rate again.
Must have just been a busy cell/network
ok... i have a spv m3100 with black 3.0.1 wich is suposed to be HSDPA enabled... i have also enabled it in the tweaker.... today for the first time i have seen the icon H... in my area there is no HSDPA coverege... none... but i read today that untill the end of the year they are trying to cover it... and i was thinking that they are already making tests... i tested my speed at http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/ and i had a 145 kilobits per second speed... wich as far as i know it is similar to 3g... i disabled the HSDPA and tried a few times in 3g... the speed was 135 kb/s... to small the difference...
so... my question... what is the tweaker doing?... enableing HSDPA or just replacing the 3g icon with the H icon?
no one???
what is the tweaker doing?... enable HSDPA or just replacing the 3g icon with the H icon?
New to Android phones, (I did a search but nothing was found), I was connected to Vodafone yesterday and there has never been a 3G Icon in the notification Bar (Network Signal has the 4 full bars)
When I am at home I use a Vodafone sure signal for 3G but it does not show in the notification bar either, (obviously I am connected to 3G when at home)
My network mode is set to GSM/WCDMA auto, so have I done something wrong or can some suggest how I can have this Icon showing.
I had the same issue - called up support and had them change my SIM card to the new one that came with the phone and since then I now get up to H depending if I'm in a decent area of Liverpool...
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I had the same issue - called up support and had them change my SIM card to the new one that came with the phone and since then I now get up to H depending if I'm in a decent area of Liverpool...
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Thanks for the reply, this was a new sim card supplied with the phone I moved from T-Mobile to Vodafone so I could use the SureSignal to get rid of the crappy signal in the house.
Just solved the problem, if you switch off Wi-Fi then go into "settings/Mobile network connect to the internet it appears on the notification bar"
I thought you'd have it on already - glad you're sorted though!
I have only seen 'H' in my toolbar and none of the other notification (3G etc) mentioned in the manual there. Normal? Or do I just have a good connection?
Matt2887 said:
I have only seen 'H' in my toolbar and none of the other notification (3G etc) mentioned in the manual there. Normal? Or do I just have a good connection?
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The H means you have the HSDPA connection which is quicker than standard 3G. 3.5G if you will
ive also never seen a 3g icon, had the H and G one before
I use to get a 'H' on my kaiser
but on on my desire on Orange. I get a '3G+' symbol now. is this the same as 'H'?
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Guys, remember that Android works differently from WIndows Mobile.
On WIndows mobile, you had the G, E, 3G or H all the time showing what signal you had. Android does not do that.
The 3G/H icon only appears when connected to the internet. the rest of the time it just shows signal bars.
And yeah, if wifi is on it will disconnect from the internet and that icon will disappear. cos after all, as long as you have signal when just using voice and text, it doesn't really matter whether it's 3G or not.
And Yes, 3G+ is the same as H. 3G+ is Orange's stupid marketing speak for HSDPA.
I have constant 'G' which changes to 3G/H when in areas that allow it...phone works fine so no issues since changing my SIM card
I am also experiencing this problem and to clarify it:
Sometimes (i think it has something to do with using camera) the animation stops working (the arrows stays shadow even if i am downloading) or the 3h/h icon disappears completely (but i am still connected to mobile data).
Disconnecting and reconnecting mobile data (e.g. swithing to wifi and back, rebooting phone or turning airplane on and off) solves this problem and the animated 3g/h icon (arrows are white when downloading and shadow when connection idle) is back.
Does anyone know how to fix this problem permanently?
I have had no such a bug on my Milestone
My phone doesn't seem to have any data connection when "3G" shows, but works amazingly on "H" and just about bareable on "G". "E" shows occaisionally and doesn't seem to have internet access either.
When loading a web page for example, if it starts on "H" it will start loading, if it switches over to "3G" halfway through loading, it will hang and nothing will continue until it switches back to "H".
I've found many, many threads on similar issues on here, but wondering if anyone experiences this exact same problem.
I'm thinking my telco's (Vodafone Australia) default APN settings that are pushed to the phone arn't very compatible with android.
same for me. if it is 3g it waits till get h then loads... mine is t mob uk, probably because of them...
And what about E (edge)?
mine is on only wdcma mode...
3g H
hi, my carrier is orange, luxembourg,
had extreme difficulties with 3g, h and e,
but after 2.2 ota everything is great.
same problem for me... it doesn't transfer any data on 3g... all is fine on h,e, and g
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same for me. if it is 3g it waits till get h then loads... mine is t mob uk, probably because of them...
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+1 i'm from italy... carrier:wind
Hello guys,
I´m a happy Desire owner since 2 weeks now and have a little question.
I noticed the following:
In areas with bad network coverage, signal shows (E)dge, or if it´s even mor bad it shows (G)PRS. That OK.
But in areas with good coverage it shows 3G (UMTS) all the time, and only if I transfer data, eg syncing email, it´s showing (H)SDPA, and switches back to 3G.
Is that normal?
I wonder as this is my first android device, and all my older WiMo phones where showing (H)SDPA all the time.
I´ve read else where, that often changing networks need a lot of battery power.
Oh, I´m using T-Mobile in germany with an unbraded Desire running 2.2.
I noticed this also with 2.1
Thank you!
Perhaps the question was´nt clear enough ... sorry.
I mean, I this the same at your phones, or do they show (H) all the time?
Thank you again!
Mine does this too.
If you want to lock to a single network type *#*#info#*#* in the dialer.
In the UK mine shows hsdpa most of the time, sometimes gprs when roaming. It does not show anything when on WiFi, just shows the bars. If you press from home screen the menu - settings - about phone - network, then you see the signal strength and type of signal .
bubblesmoney said:
In the UK mine shows hsdpa most of the time, sometimes gprs when roaming. It does not show anything when on WiFi, just shows the bars. If you press from home screen the menu - settings - about phone - network, then you see the signal strength and type of signal .
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Thats what I thought it should do ... so it seems my SIM is having a problem.
Yesterday I put a friend´s SIM in it (also using T-Mobile) and it shows H all the time and never 3G. If Network is bad it switches to E and then back to H.
Now I´ve ordered a new SIM, so lets see ...
OK my SIM is around 12 years now ... 1998 ...
Hey, so I'm confused. I activated 3G on my phone but it is not showing "3G" but it shows a "H" icon instead. My friend told me that "H" is slower than "3G". I'm not sure if it's the fault with the phone or there is some settings I'm missing.
I've set the phone on GSM/WCDMA auto.
Please help!
H is HSDPA
Dont panic, H stands for HSDPA, which is faster 3G setting for the network. In order of speed you will see
G - basic GPRS - slowest data speeds
E - EDGE - Enhanced GPRS - A bit faster than G but not going to set your world on fire
3G - Faster connection
H - Fastest connection
Which one of these you get depends on the cell you are connected to, the quality of the connection and how many people are on the cell (sort of, I am no expert).
In summary, dont panic! Your phone is fine, you have a great network connection, but I am afraid you have a friend who is wrong. Break it to him gently.
MS
I thought Edge was slower than GPRS?
My Vodafone Wildfire S shows 'E' at home (whereas my O2 Nokia phone shows "G" or "H" depending on the weather)
taffypride said:
I thought Edge was slower than GPRS?
My Vodafone Wildfire S shows 'E' at home (whereas my O2 Nokia phone shows "G" or "H" depending on the weather)
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GPRS is definitely the slowest connexion
mstockham said:
Dont panic, H stands for HSDPA, which is faster 3G setting for the network. In order of speed you will see
G - basic GPRS - slowest data speeds
E - EDGE - Enhanced GPRS - A bit faster than G but not going to set your world on fire
3G - Faster connection
H - Fastest connection
Which one of these you get depends on the cell you are connected to, the quality of the connection and how many people are on the cell (sort of, I am no expert).
In summary, dont panic! Your phone is fine, you have a great network connection, but I am afraid you have a friend who is wrong. Break it to him gently.
MS
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Ah, yeah I forgot about that, thanks mate