Is everyone happy with the audio quality when making a call?! This is my first XDA phone and have been really surprised at the call quality compared to my old Sony W800i.. it sometimes feels a bit like I am holding a shell up to my ear!
Overall, even on the lowest volume it is still too loud for me, and the tone has too much treble in it for my taste. So does anybody know if:
1. There is a reg key that I can adjust to bring the overall call volume down?
2. If there are any programs that i can get hold of to adjust the tone of the audio when on a call?
Apart from that the Orbit is exactly what I wanted, just a shame at the moment I don't want to make many calls on it!
Many thanks,
Tom.
Mine was exactly the same as yours. I think you described it perfectly, it's like holding a shell to your ear. In fact there were times, I made a call, and didn't even bother holding it to my ear and I could still hear the person on the other end.
I don't have the Orbit anymore, got the Trinity instead, and I think call quality on the Trinity is much better.
You can try swapping it for another one, as you have 28 days. Maybe both of us were unlucky.
I don't think you can adjust the sound qaulity for the call. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Have already tried swapping for another one.. o2 were very reasonable about it however, the new one is not much different (although it does seem quicker than the first for some strange reason!).
Its really annoying, walking down the street and making a call is very difficult.. its almost as if the gain on the mic is too high and is some how feeding back into the earpiece.. which is compounded by the volume being too high and the tone not being great.
Its good to know I am not the only one having this problem however!
I would realy like to find (or develop) a fix for this as in all other respects this is the perfect phone for me!
I just tried the Google Music app for the first time on this phone and I'm just blown away at how good the speaker sound is. Don't get me wrong it's not going to replace your home stereo speakers but I never expected to be able to tolerate the sound from a phone much less enjoy it. The bass response is wonderful for a little fingernail sized transducer. The volume is not enough to serve as a party player but in the quiet of my living room it's perfectly adequate at 75% level. It probably won't have enough oomph for Hip Hop or Heavy Metal fans but I'm thoroughly enjoying the mellow sound of Bob Dylan's "Desire" Album as I'm composing this post. My Shure SCL4 earbuds are capable of producing uncomfortably loud levels at anymore than half of maximum gain and the clarity, sound stage, and bass are just phenomenal even without tweaking the equalizer settings.
I signed up for the Google Music service when it first came out but was resigned to never using it due to the crummy sound quality of my G2 and the data limits of my former plan but with this decent speaker and great headphone performance along with unlimited data I'm finally able to get decent sound on the go.
When everyone was all hyped up about this phone prior to release I couldn't help thinking "Get a grip. It's just a phone, it's not going to change anyone's life". Funny, it seems likely to have a significant impact on mine. For instance, My wife will have to call me on the phone when she want's to get my attention from upstairs because I will be frequently plugged into my sound isolating headphones. Not a bad thing really.
Who is planning to get a Moto Hint? I am curious how the experience of having bot ha Moto 360 and the Moto Hint will be. I wonder if the two devices will compete for your words or if they will have a synergy making having both worthwhile. I do a lot of talking on the phone so a nice bluetooth headset really interests me.
the only thing i'm worried about with the hint is that it will really look like you're talking to yourself
Oh dang I actually haven't heard about these but I think they look like they'll be a pretty good product for those who use such devices. I would splurge but I don't think I would actually use it very often...
I was curious and found the Moto Hint last night at Best Buy. It fit great in the ear and was really comfortable. I could hear callers clearly. Issue is that callers could not hear me well. I was told that every few words were clear then there would be a gap of silence while I continued to speak. I tried with the Note 3 and iPhone 5 and both had the same results. I then covered the sensor making the Hint believe it was in my ear and spoke directly into the mic about an inch from my mouth. Callers heard everything I said clearly. It appears that the BT mic is too far from the mouth to pick up speech properly. I had high hopes for the Hint and am disapointed that it didn't operate as advertised. Will give it the benifit of the doubt and swap it out for another one before giving up.
Make sure the two microphones are aligned and pointed toward your mouth and not your eyes. You may have to consciously rotate the back of the unit upwards slightly when you put it in the ear so microphones line up such that they point to your mouth. Found this in user guide and it works great with this slight adjustment in ear.
where do you live? i cant seem to find the moto hint on bestbuys website. Looking at motorola website doesn't seem like they are on sale yet T^T i wanna try this headset out pretty bad lol
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I was curious and found the Moto Hint last night at Best Buy. It fit great in the ear and was really comfortable. I could hear callers clearly. Issue is that callers could not hear me well. I was told that every few words were clear then there would be a gap of silence while I continued to speak. I tried with the Note 3 and iPhone 5 and both had the same results. I then covered the sensor making the Hint believe it was in my ear and spoke directly into the mic about an inch from my mouth. Callers heard everything I said clearly. It appears that the BT mic is too far from the mouth to pick up speech properly. I had high hopes for the Hint and am disapointed that it didn't operate as advertised. Will give it the benifit of the doubt and swap it out for another one before giving up.
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I also don't see it on the Best Buy website or Amazon. I found it at the Best Buy in Alexandria, VA. I decided to try another unit since the first was so bad. The Best Buy at the Pentagon City location had five in stock. This one is much better. Tried it last night and the person on the other end of the call could hear and understand everyword I said. Not so good this morning so I will follow gadgetg's instructions. I really like the look and feel of the Hint. Will try it for a few more days before I make the decision to keep it or not. My Plantronics Voyager Edge works great, but definitely not as attractive and discreet as the Hint.
Lucky! Keep us updated!
I Def like the way it looks! I would use it at work most considering i mostly use only one eat with my current setup
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I also don't see it on the Best Buy website or Amazon. I found it at the Best Buy in Alexandria, VA. I decided to try another unit since the first was so bad. The Best Buy at the Pentagon City location had five in stock. This one is much better. Tried it last night and the person on the other end of the call could hear and understand everyword I said. Not so good this morning so I will follow gadgetg's instructions. I really like the look and feel of the Hint. Will try it for a few more days before I make the decision to keep it or not. My Plantronics Voyager Edge works great, but definitely not as attractive and discreet as the Hint.
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I live in the DC area. I'll have to check those places out. Hopefully they have some left in stock.
I just left a bestbuy in Jax FL and they didn't have them in the system yet
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I wonder if the hint is using sensors to detect jaw vibrations like this headset
http://www.amazon.com/Jawbone-II-Bluetooth-NoiseAssassin-Packaging/dp/B001AQYUWC
Got the Hint yesterday at my local best buy in Miami and I really want to like it but I'm still on the fence. Calls are nice and loud with no issues with being heard. My issue is with streaming audio and how quiet it is compared to the call volume. I have the call volume at the lowest setting it's so loud but the streaming has to be over 3/4's just to be able to hear it. It also sounds a but tinny but I imagine the tiny speaker is doing its best. I turned off the Moto voice always listening feature since I'm using it with a iphone 6+ and I imagine that will also help a bit with battery life. If anyone has any suggested settings to improve streaming volume or battery life please chime in. I got the best buy 2 year insurance for $20 so I can always trade this one in if they ever come out with a different hardware version later on.
My wife really wants the Gear S when it launches and thought the hint would be the perfect accessory for it. Just worried she will lose it!
Is hint can used for other phone has not motovoice? Any limition will be?
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Is hint can used for other phone has not motovoice? Any limition will be?
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Yes you can. I'm using it with an iPhone 6 plus and it works great. The only limitation is you can't use moto voice. I have to press the mdf to call Siri.
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Yes you can. I'm using it with an iPhone 6 plus and it works great. The only limitation is you can't use moto voice. I have to press the mdf to call Siri.
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Thanks for info. I read some review say the stream sound like music is low and difficult to hear, how about yours? And any problem when talk, need to adjust you head or just feel free to talk in air?
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Thanks for info. I read some review say the stream sound like music is low and difficult to hear, how about yours? And any problem when talk, need to adjust you head or just feel free to talk in air?
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Call volume is very loud but audio streaming and music volume is much lower for some reason.
edlex said:
Call volume is very loud but audio streaming and music volume is much lower for some reason.
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I see. Maybe need report back to moto.
I posted this on the Motorola Forums, but those of you with a Hint or thinking of getting one may find it useful
A US friend recently bought me a 2nd gen Moto Hint on his visit to the UK and I've got to say that the microphone
performance is really erratic. I did loads of testing and searching on the internet in case the problems were:
a) Related to the Nexus 5 I was using
b) Related to a faulty unit
c) Related to me not using the correct "gel" or positioning it in my ear correctly.
After a LOT of digging and reading the few reviews out there, I found that in quite a high proportion of the reviews I did eventually find, people mentioned about how others heard them; that people speaking into the Hint came across as quite faint and distant - exactly the problems I was getting.
A bit more digging and testing later, and I managed to eliminate both a) & b) from the equation... using a really crude test
involving a Bluetooth recorder app, I uncovered the following (Hope this helps!):
Option1.
Believe it or not, I can get consistent clear audio recorded - and subsequently call quality where others can hear me
very clearly if I... Take the Hint out of my ear and BLOW HARD into the front mic before quickly putting it back on!! I know it sounds crazy, but every time I do this, the Hint's mic works flawlessly for me (I should add, there is no debris or or anything else blocking the hole to actually be cleared and my ears are clean )
And this trick works whatever the orientation of the Hint in your ear is.. it can be positioned so the mic is level with your eyes, pointing a bit further down towards your mouth, whatever... this to me, completely dispells any previous info about rotational position in your ear being critical to mic's pick up (no consumer device suitable for everyday use should be that sensitive to position IMHO)
FYI, an audio engineer friend of mine thinks the sudden burst of white noise caused by blowing into the mic, might re-set the noise cancelling audio sampling start up processes but without pulling the thing apart and reverse engineering its code, they're at a complete loss to comprehensively explain why this should work..
FYI 2, The same audio engineer friend thinks the noise cancelling algorithms are broken in some way which is the root cause of the mic pick up being so poor out of the box, and could be fixed with a software update. They've got an older Moto Elite Sliver with Mics positioned no closer to the mouth than the Hint and the mic audio quality in comparison is damned good without having to resort to tricks..
Option 2. A bit more fiddly but also do-able, is to hold your hand up around your ear "Secret Service Agent/FBI Agent" style. Don't actually touch the hint, just have a couple of fingers brushing against the top of your ear with your palm and wrist towards your mouth to help channel the audio from your mouth into the Hint's mic. YMMV and in someways, having to do this to get enough audio to the mic kinda defeats the purpose of having such a small Bluetooth earpiece - may as well hold your phone up to your ear instead!
Anyway, I hope my findings help someone who's had problems, might've left it in a drawer etc.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/jM0jiUfANc4KR64k2
So from the video it's hard to hear which speaker but you can easily hear the change. Basically what's happening is when listening to music or watching a video audio comes through both speakers. However, when you get a notification all audio stops briefly while it switches to just the bottom speaker, and then stops briefly again to switch back to both speakers. Once it switches to the bottom speaker it gets quieter and audio sounds noticably worse. And if you get multiple notifications at just the right intervals it creates a very choppy listening experience. I don't know if this is intentional or not but I find it very annoying and it makes it feel like the speakers were and afterthought. Also, why do speakerphone calls still come out of the bottom speaker? Why does it not do both like music or videos?
If someone created stereo alert sounds, would it maybe be an easy fix for the contrast in volume and mono source? Basically be a less stark a contrast? Same sound through both speakers on top of the music in the background.
Totally different topic, but somewhat related - I was going through online reviews today and I think a CNET video mentioned that someone determined the top speaker is tuned to 10 db less than the bottom. They basically ran left the same sound through the "left" speaker and then right. And by using another phone and a decibel meter app showed the top is quieter. Then they said something like when the engineers were tuning the audio, when both were balanced, there was distortion from the top speaker. But when both were balanced, but low enough that there was no distortion, it was too quiet. So they chose to go lower on top and higher on the bottom to have a better overall volume, without distortion. I wasn't listening so close so didn't catch if that was speculation on why or someone divulged that.
I searched later and couldn't find the original source, so it might be something someone just noticed.
Speakerphone coming through the bottom speaker is so some dumbass hole won't have it on speaker phone and hold it to their ear and get blasted in their ear and then try to sue Google
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Speakerphone coming through the bottom speaker is so some dumbass hole won't have it on speaker phone and hold it to their ear and get blasted in their ear and then try to sue Google
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Bwahahahahaha...Very Nice!
Anyone experience a noise from the display speaker like a slight buzzing or hum during calls? It only seems to affect calls (not media) and only when my ear is positioned just above the exciter. MKBHD also mentioned this noise in his review. I went back to T-Mobile to listen to the floor model and it sounded clean. I also posted on reddit with other responding that their units had no noise. Unfortunately the store won't let me return it without charging me because none of the employees could hear the sound, or they said that it's too small an issue.
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Anyone experience a noise from the display speaker like a slight buzzing or hum during calls? It only seems to affect calls (not media) and only when my ear is positioned just above the exciter.
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I've noticed the same thing, sometimes it sounds kind of like static, but the rest sounds like a mild buzzing. I only notice it some of the time on phone calls. Do you have a case on your phone as well? Might be worth taking the case off and see if it still happens.