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WM 6.1 port?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1861878&postcount=76 promised to be out this weekend for the Kaiser
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363050 theres the thread
whos gonna make us a Sprint touch 6.1 ROM!!!

I have a feeling that some of the communities best folks are working hard on this acheivement. I'm guessing that we will see 6.1 on the Hermes first because the likeness of the phone in Asia that has 6.1.
I would love to see WM6.1 ported for the touch.

well someone in the Kaiser forum supposedly will have it for them by the end of the week so....im sure its fully possible for the touch too. Im sure hes using the same ROM thats floating around.
could you imagine? rip the gps/rev A off the mogul ROM and 6.1 all into one super ROM. The perfect phone i think

klmsu19 said:
well someone in the Kaiser forum supposedly will have it for them by the end of the week so....im sure its fully possible for the touch too. Im sure hes using the same ROM thats floating around.
could you imagine? rip the gps/rev A off the mogul ROM and 6.1 all into one super ROM. The perfect phone i think
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It certainly sounds like a "Super ROM" but then again you have to take into consideration that building, testing, and perfecting something like this is going to take time. If this is actually done, the initial release is going to have bugs like a cockroach infested house.

i would be happy with just a cab of the threaded sms...i hope it works with the touch keypad

i would love to try it

riironman said:
i would be happy with just a cab of the threaded sms...i hope it works with the touch keypad
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I have the cab files for the palm threaded sms on my laptop at home and can upload that i have a feeling you already have it.

yes i have it. thank you...just the same problem with the keypad covering the words. i dont like the spb full keyboard option either. but if the 6.1 is set up like the native sms and the keyboard doesnt block what i am typing that would be perfect.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363578
screenshots of 6.1 running threaded looks like the palm one but keyboard doesnt cover. Definitely time to get this ported every other device is starting to get it now

klmsu19 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363578
screenshots of 6.1 running threaded looks like the palm one but keyboard doesnt cover. Definitely time to get this ported every other device is starting to get it now
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yes, lol, everyone has the palm threaded sms app, but for the touch devices this is not an option. we really need this 6.1. this alows threaded sms without the keyboard covering up the app problem. palm threaded sms has got to go bye bye. we need 6.1 forsure.
i can't wait

I have the OS but I need help isn trying to get this on our phone, if someone can help that would be great

you cannot just grab the kaiser release and make it for vogue
There are many methods people use to protect rom releases from being used in cooking. delete dsm files, delete rgu files, screw up packages.sof, etc. You can be sure that the upcoming WM6.1 releases will not nicely reconstruct for others to modify. The lucky few with a 6.1 source at this time have to protect it.
I personally will not sift thru this and that wm6.1 rom and fight to reconstruct a base. I intend to use WM6.1 on the vogue and titan, but not until I obtain it from an officially released carrier rom.

I see DCD1182.......so when are they talking about sending it out then?

codyppc said:
yes, lol, everyone has the palm threaded sms app, but for the touch devices this is not an option. we really need this 6.1. this alows threaded sms without the keyboard covering up the app problem. palm threaded sms has got to go bye bye. we need 6.1 forsure.
i can't wait
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i definetly agree

wow this kinda sucks Kaiser has 6.1 GSM Touch (by cloudya) now has 6.1 too per their forum section. Having CDMA sucks sometimes big time.
BTW 6.1 isnt even supposed to be unveiled until FEb 11th and not shipping out till MAY reportedly so youre talking a few month wait (up to 5 months) if no one takes the dive to put something together. Idk why every other forum here seems to have someone who got a non-timebombed version working for their respective device. Hopefully someone else will jump in and take care of this and maybe these other cookers will be willing to help with files even

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wow this kinda sucks Kaiser has 6.1 GSM Touch (by cloudya) now has 6.1 too per their forum section. Having CDMA sucks sometimes big time.
BTW 6.1 isnt even supposed to be unveiled until FEb 11th and not shipping out till MAY reportedly so youre talking a few month wait (up to 5 months) if no one takes the dive to put something together. Idk why every other forum here seems to have someone who got a non-timebombed version working for their respective device. Hopefully someone else will jump in and take care of this and maybe these other cookers will be willing to help with files even
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I think it's several factors that are why we will see it later, if not much later.
I think the biggest factor is that we are... CDMA. With a much more limited user base, it is just harder to get all the coders for it. Still though, we have many good coders, we just have to wait for one that really wants 6.1 before they will begin work on it.
Secondly, I think if it's being worked on, it's probably not on this site, probably on PPCGeeks (which is down unfortunatly). As that is a much bigger CDMA focused community, and once someone ports 6.1 for any of the CDMA devices, then I am sure someone will port it for the others... Then again I'm not sure if it even matters that it's GSM vs CDMA, is there any internal code that is specific to either?

Tenny said:
I think it's several factors that are why we will see it later, if not much later.
I think the biggest factor is that we are... CDMA. With a much more limited user base, it is just harder to get all the coders for it. Still though, we have many good coders, we just have to wait for one that really wants 6.1 before they will begin work on it.
Secondly, I think if it's being worked on, it's probably not on this site, probably on PPCGeeks (which is down unfortunatly). As that is a much bigger CDMA focused community, and once someone ports 6.1 for any of the CDMA devices, then I am sure someone will port it for the others... Then again I'm not sure if it even matters that it's GSM vs CDMA, is there any internal code that is specific to either?
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I'm pretty sure there is much more to it than you might think. Being CDMA, there very different radios in our devices and the bootloaders are all different from my understanding. It would take quite a bit more work to get this working on a CDMA device than some people are really willing to do unfortunately...

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I'm pretty sure there is much more to it than you might think. Being CDMA, there very different radios in our devices and the bootloaders are all different from my understanding. It would take quite a bit more work to get this working on a CDMA device than some people are really willing to do unfortunately...
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But Radios & Bootloaders are not in OS (only) Rom Updates (which I thought is what we were talking about?).

it ports really easy, i was talking about waiting for a source for final code. but yes the beta posted can be ported to a cdma device just as easy as gsm.

DCD,
can we try????? lets give us something since the Titan has just gotten a new rom, i would like to do this on my touch is there any instructions on how

Touch Flo ROM for TyTN

Hey guys
Was just wondering if it was possible to find a Touch Flo ROM for a TyTN?
Saw the new Touch last night, think the interface is very interesting, would like to try it out
Thanks alot for any replies!!!

randomguy321 said:
Hey guys
Was just wondering if it was possible to find a Touch Flo ROM for a TyTN?
Saw the new Touch last night, think the interface is very interesting, would like to try it out
Thanks alot for any replies!!!
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If you had searched you would have found ...... this quite accessible ... the only ROM that comes with one is .... this ...
But I think you need to do a fair bit more reading and searching before you go ahead and flashing stuff if you think touchflo is a ROM

Hehehe, thanks alot Zocster...Believe it or not, i did actually search and ive been reading alot of posts! Im not 1 of those forum idiots who randomly posts messages without reading anything...
However, i am TOTALLY new to this world! I decided to ditch the trusty old cell phone and move to a pocket pc/pda phone whatever you wanna call it I have decided on a TyTN and am now getting into the world of cooked ROMs and all the stuff you guys know all about
Im learning!!!

randomguy321 said:
Hehehe, thanks alot Zocster...Believe it or not, i did actually search and ive been reading alot of posts! Im not 1 of those forum idiots who randomly posts messages without reading anything...
However, i am TOTALLY new to this world! I decided to ditch the trusty old cell phone and move to a pocket pc/pda phone whatever you wanna call it I have decided on a TyTN and am now getting into the world of cooked ROMs and all the stuff you guys know all about
Im learning!!!
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Awesome, is it definitely an HTC Tytn then? not any other variants? just curious

No no, plain old HTC TyTN im from South Africa, so thats our variant out here

randomguy321 said:
No no, plain old HTC TyTN im from South Africa, so thats our variant out here
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I seeI have an imate jasjam, so yeah you have a front camera I presume you would want to make video calls too then, so may be that ROM i mentioned not for you as it doesn't have video calling dial pad cooked in.

To be brutally honest, Ive had a Sony Ericsson K800i for a year and a half now and have NEVER used the video calling feature Our networks are rather unstable and its expensive, so why bother Im just looking for a fast, reliable ROM

randomguy321 said:
To be brutally honest, Ive had a Sony Ericsson K800i for a year and a half now and have NEVER used the video calling feature Our networks are rather unstable and its expensive, so why bother Im just looking for a fast, reliable ROM
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Let me see then ... you have ten or so ROMs to try out took me two months to go through about 30 from pays, tnt, binky11s, now crc and pdacorner as my favs. You need to know what works for you, make sure you read the wiki, you don't want to kill your new toy ey ...
Welcome by the way .. saw it was your second post oh by the way, go the wallabies, even though i live in new zealand! hehe .. and this is for the trinations!

Much obliged Zocster!!!
Thanks alot for your help...I know that forum noobs are often ignored or flamed lol!!!
The problem i have is being a complete newcomer to this stuff...I honestly dont know where to start, I was hoping there would be a poll with "your favorite ROM" or something, then at least id have somewhere to start

randomguy321 said:
Much obliged Zocster!!!
Thanks alot for your help...I know that forum noobs are often ignored or flamed lol!!!
The problem i have is being a complete newcomer to this stuff...I honestly dont know where to start, I was hoping there would be a poll with "your favorite ROM" or something, then at least id have somewhere to start
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Sorry mate, honestly, ... trying it yourself is the only way you can judge, read the wiki, and try out different roms, as i said what is good for me may not be good for you. So go try them all out and make up your mind from experience. I have had my phone for two months and I have been through honestly about 20 or so roms before i made up my mind, each chefs have got their own style and yeah you need to determine what style suits you.

Thanks alot, will definitely do so
One more question...In my research on the P4350 which uses the 200mhz OMAP cpu, i read that there is an app to overclock (and declock) the device, does the TyTN have a similar app??

randomguy321 said:
Thanks alot, will definitely do so
One more question...In my research on the P4350 which uses the 200mhz OMAP cpu, i read that there is an app to overclock (and declock) the device, does the TyTN have a similar app??
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If you want to keep your device for another couple of years, then no, it is not recommended. it is doable, but it would not be doing your device any favour.

Well since the reviews i read all said the TyTN is powerful enough, im actually more interested in declocking the device when i dont need the power, to save battery life

randomguy321 said:
Well since the reviews i read all said the TyTN is powerful enough, im actually more interested in declocking the device when i dont need the power, to save battery life
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hmm, you need to try the roms available, and once you get applications such as BT GPS, BT Stereo, MP3 etc going, plus the touchflo extension you mentioned, it ain't all that powerful.
These chefs have done their best to make the most out of a device that is 2 years old. so ... yeah it isn't that powerful, but yes you will determine that when you have run a couple of things on the hermes have fun, ...

Starbase has the cab on his 4shared site. I have had it before, but find it useless, the touchflo that schaps has is better for finger scrolling and quick landscape mode switches however.

Good to see more South Africans here. (From South Africa myself). As Zocster said, just try the roms out. Been flashing my TyTN at least once a week. Just remember to Hard-SPL first.

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Just remember to Hard-SPL first.
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Glad someone remembered.....

lol thanks guys!!!
Been reading the guides and the wikis, will definitely hardSPL first

first of all make hardspl ! it is the first thing you need to flash into your tytn....what you meen about -toch flo- ? many component may be instaled on any rom. personaly I use 3ppc.net russian 6.1 rom, whith htc home today plugin (one part of tochflo) included. for finger scroling I use ftochFlo, cube not use at all - personaly I found it useless....(anyway - there are some custom cube on 'hacking and developing' section of developers, as for me it much better than original.)

about overclock. sumsung procesors (which use tytn) is wery bad in frequency control. looks like time generator somehow connected whith main frequency - when you changing it, a lot of bugs appear....for example - if you overclocked cpu, you will notice that music/video/e.t.c. will run more fast that it needed. no need to worry about cpu power consumtion - it low anyway for samsung cpu. much more buttary will eat 3g, wifi, backlight e.t.c.

Strongly thinking about buying the tilt2

I've been on some other forums wondering what phone to buy, and it seems the tilt2 is the best for me. That being said, I'm not totally sold on it. For you people who've had it long enough, would you recommend it? I'm committed to learning about the best ROM to install over it, so I'm going to try to get away from as many freezes as possible. Of course, I was recommended to *this* wonderful site!
Does anyone have a good place to start for learning on here? There's a freakton of information on here, and I have no problem reading through lots of info, but I don't know where to start!
I would be much appreciative. Thanks!

Welcome to forums
Yes!
Go and get it!!
Rhodium is the best hardware keyboard device to this date!
I´m very happy with mine

This is my 3rd HTC device. With my big fingers, a hardware keyboard is a MUST. The Tilt had a good keyboard, the Fuze had a better keyboard, the Tilt2 has the best keyboard for someone like me. And now that I have to have bifocal glasses , the larger screen is MUCH appreciated.

I say get it as well. I had the Fuze, AT&T's version of the original Touch Pro, for a week and hated it. I just got a Tilt 2 and it's a much better device. I've been using it for a few days and haven't noticed any freezing or bad lag. I've loaded a few programs and done a few registry tweaks and so far I've been very happy with the results. Slingplayer Mobile looks great on this device and I get GPS locks in seconds in both Google Maps and Bing Mobile. The touch screen is very responsive and TouchFlo 3D has really improved in a year. I noticed some complaints about the Widcomm Bluetooth stack but the phone paired right away with my Motorola headset and the handsfree system in my Acura RL and has worked flawlessly with both.
I plan on deleting as many of the stock bloatware programs as I can to free up some memory, but so far the stock AT&T ROM has been fine. The keyboard is awesome - I don't mind having the symbols in the top row as I seem to use them more when typing emails. This is a really nice device.

So what's the favorite ROM around here? Might be a week (or a few evne) before I pick this up, and I want to make sure I have my technology down so I don't keep on flashing.
I have a Motorola Q9h at the moment.... it's what got me hooked on windows mobile. I couldn't believe that I could actually edit the registry! So yeah, I'm all about tweaks, but I remember my first couple weeks and I was all over the place trying to find all the tweaks I needed.
I'm hoping to go into this next move prepared.

My advice is this - make sure you try the phone out first. Try to have a conversation in a moderately noisy environment and see if you can hear the other person, even with the volume on full.
Loud enough for you? If so, then get the phone. Everything else about it is awesome.
If not loud enough, forget it, find a different phone made by a company who doesn't assume all their customers have bionic ears. It will drive you crazy and frustrate you every phone call, and there is no fix.

The best rom for me which is closest to stock as possible is here. I currently have been running for about a month and this is stable and great. Very close to the ATT stock rom.

It's a terrific phone, I highly recommend it. The keyboard is the best I've ever used, the screen is gorgeous, and the build quality is fantastic. If you're looking to start somewhere, I recommend the following links: XDA-Developers Wiki article on the Rhodium and Flashing your first Rhodium ROM. Of all the places to start, those are probably best. The stickies at the top of the forums are also good to read, as they often contain important information.
Also, as many will tell you, there is no best ROM. I personally like EnergyROM Leo for my purposes, but other ROMs may work best for what you prefer to do with your Rhodium. I would recommend looking in peoples' signatures and seeing what ROMs people are using, or better yet, flash them all and see what works for you. Now that that's out of the way, welcome to XDA-Developers!

Perfect Dave!! Thanks a ton!
If I could rep you guys on these boards I would!

Phrozt said:
Perfect Dave!! Thanks a ton!
If I could rep you guys on these boards I would!
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I'm happy I could help

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
It's a terrific phone, I highly recommend it. The keyboard is the best I've ever used, the screen is gorgeous, and the build quality is fantastic. If you're looking to start somewhere, I recommend the following links: XDA-Developers Wiki article on the Rhodium and Flashing your first Rhodium ROM. Of all the places to start, those are probably best. The stickies at the top of the forums are also good to read, as they often contain important information.
Also, as many will tell you, there is no best ROM. I personally like EnergyROM Leo for my purposes, but other ROMs may work best for what you prefer to do with your Rhodium. I would recommend looking in peoples' signatures and seeing what ROMs people are using, or better yet, flash them all and see what works for you. Now that that's out of the way, welcome to XDA-Developers!
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Unless he's having specific issues or a WM veteran I don't see why you'd point him to how to flash a ROM first thing... Probably let him use the device out-of-box for a bit.

khaytsus said:
Unless he's having specific issues or a WM veteran I don't see why you'd point him to how to flash a ROM first thing... Probably let him use the device out-of-box for a bit.
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The OP was interested in information concerning cooked ROMs, and where a good place to start would be. I figured that they'd want to know the process of installing one since they were inquiring about which one they should flash, and I thought that link would be a good place to start (when concerning ROMs). It's not like they have to flash one just because I linked there, and if they'd seen the instructions already there's no harm, so I thought I was being helpful by posting a useful related link. IMO there's nothing wrong with using a device out of the box (I did for ~1 year), but the OP requested more info on ROMs and I simply gave it to them.

I've had my Tilt 2, for 2 weeks.
And I LOVE IT !!!
And i'm already a flashing whore ..........

khaytsus said:
Unless he's having specific issues or a WM veteran I don't see why you'd point him to how to flash a ROM first thing... Probably let him use the device out-of-box for a bit.
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Yeah, I've been using WM for 2 years now on my motorola q9h. The tweaking aspect is the reason I *want* to stay w/WM... and I was definitely looking for exactly what dave posted!
Also, as I indicated in a few posts, I want to know as much as I can before actually getting the phone so I can flash it, tweak it, set it up how I want it, and then not touch it so that I can keep a stable environment. I don't want to lose my messages and things...
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And i'm already a flashing whore ..........
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Let's leave your mom out of this
(I'm sorry, I have a chronic condition involving mom jokes)

well.... I just picked up the tilt 2 . it's pretty cool so far but I do notice all the lag people have been talking about... will prolly just take some getting used to.

My advice would be to try and get the out-of-the-box system working, install a few apps / shells / tweaks, figure out what's important to you and then flash. Pretty much any stock rom will be lag-free or lag-minimal. There's a lot of good ROMs / chefs out there. Flashing several will definitely whet your appetite.
~Eric

After owning this thing for awhile.. good LORD does it freeze up a lot :/. I mean, I get used to it and "deal" with it, but it becomes painfull noticeable when my friend has his droid out.
Maybe it's time to start looking into those homebrews for better efficiency, heh.

Phrozt said:
After owning this thing for awhile.. good LORD does it freeze up a lot :/. I mean, I get used to it and "deal" with it, but it becomes painfull noticeable when my friend has his droid out.
Maybe it's time to start looking into those homebrews for better efficiency, heh.
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I rarely reset my phone for freezing issues, especially on sense 2.1 ROMs. Sense 2.5 ROMs maybe once a week at most. At the end of the day to get a phone that more closely functions how you want it to, a custom ROM is the way to go.
I will say the most stable release I ever used was the stock VZW 6.1 TF3D 2.0. I could run that thing for weeks and still idle at 49%.

Phrozt said:
After owning this thing for awhile.. good LORD does it freeze up a lot :/. I mean, I get used to it and "deal" with it, but it becomes painfull noticeable when my friend has his droid out.
Maybe it's time to start looking into those homebrews for better efficiency, heh.
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There's a couple of things that should be done with all new TP2's to help reduce memory hogging and help performance in general:
First, run the first two cabs below. One switches off push internet for a big resource savings. The other one switches on dynamic memory allocation, which does a much better job of freeing up memory when apps aren't using it.
Next, run the Advanced Config cab below...it's a utility that gives you access to all sorts of deeper-level settings in the phone. When you run it, navigate to the "power management" section, and make the first 7 entries there set to "enabled (advised)"
Do a soft-reset after these, and you should see a significant reduction in memory use and lock-ups.
Lastly, use the Crud Scraper attached below...copy it to your SD card and just run the .exe from there (not your PC). It allows you to uninstall a fair amount of the bloat AT&T was generous enough to include on the phone

Some pretty good advice in this thread for new users. I've been playing with WM since well before it was WM and I've had an overwhelmingly positive experience with it, that is until i moved from the kaiser to the tilt2. I was ready to chunk it and get something else but decided to flash a few roms first. Not expecting much i was surprised by the significant performance improvements and overall appeal the device gained over the stock At&t rom.
My advice, I woudl only try "fixing" the issues with teh stock rom if you are absolutley stuck with it. if you are not stuck using the AT&T rom for some reason flash one, there are several good ones out there and all of them seem to be an improvement over the At&t rom in terms of stability and performance.

Android on expo

i rather have a dual boot android/ wimo phone than windows phone 7. windows phone 7 is too locked down only thing i like is the zune marketplace part.
the tp2 has android dual boot http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/htc-touch-pro-2-gets-a-new-lease-of-android-life-loves-it-vide/
so i was thinking it could be done on the expo. wimo 6.5 really makes a 1ghz cpu feel slow and 256mb ram feel like nothing.

They are working on it at lg-expo.com they got it running for the incite and now trying to make it work for the expo

yea the main person randomblame i think is waiting on an expo so he can do some further testing.. he def seems to know what he's doin with it.. so hopefully when he gets it we won't have to wait too long to start seeing progress with updates and maybe even a working version before too long
that would be sweet.. i'd love to see live wallpapers running on my expo's background

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yea the main person randomblame i think is waiting on an expo so he can do some further testing.. he def seems to know what he's doin with it.. so hopefully when he gets it we won't have to wait too long to start seeing progress with updates and maybe even a working version before too long
that would be sweet.. i'd love to see live wallpapers running on my expo's background
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any progress with this?

from randomblame: I don't think I'll be getting it anytime soon, with the rom development started he's actually using it now. One day my account will be up for an upgrade, you guys just better hope at&t doesn't get the hd2 by then

what is the best version of touchflo that can run on the lg expo and where can i download it?

well i learned the hard way dont boot the experimental hd2 linux image on the expo. it messed up my device.

So what's going on with the Android ROM for eXpo/IQ? I saw on lg-expo.com that randomblame got the post shut down, and looks like he got booted off the site. Is anyone else working on something?

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So what's going on with the Android ROM for eXpo/IQ? I saw on lg-expo.com that randomblame got the post shut down, and looks like he got booted off the site. Is anyone else working on something?
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why would they ban him? kinda seems that site is doing the opposite of benefiting the expo community.

John973 said:
why would they ban him? kinda seems that site is doing the opposite of benefiting the expo community.
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I dont know about the banning, I'm not a mod over there, but the admin that asked him originally to stop soliciting donations isn't the one who locked the thread.
More ontopic: As far as I know, that was the only thing even resembling an effort to port android. I think it'd be sweet to be able to dual boot this thing, but I don't think there's anyone with a monaco has the time/knowledge/inclination to get it done

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why would they ban him? kinda seems that site is doing the opposite of benefiting the expo community.
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He got banned because he was soliciting donations even after the main admin asked him to stop. Go read the post and it pretty much explains itself. Personally I thought it was pretty bad that he was asking for donations to get an expo when he just bought a tilt2. He could've used that money to get an expo.
I think the people that have the phone and the time/knowledge to do anything with the ROMs are probably more focused on cooking flashable ROMs right now. I would LOVE to see a dual boot for android on this phone though.

LG Ally Dump
I got my hands on a full dump from an LG VS740 (Ally). If you're too lazy to look it up, the Ally runs a MSM7627 600 MHz, has a QWERTY keyboard and runs Android. I believe most of the other hardware is identical to the GW820 except the Ally is CDMA. If anyone wants the files to work on a dual boot then let me know... until then, the files are mine all mine

lol - funny - yeah i'd love to dual boot. Especially considering our hardware is plenty.

Ally dump
The dump for the Ally is contained in two zip files on my sky drive HERE: cid-96b3a507df13ced7.office.live.com/self.aspx/.Public

So what is preventing us from having a dual boot android\WinMo lg expo? What are the hurdles? Is it drivers? I honestly don't know. Is it something you would have to flash the ROM to do? Could I (in theory) remove WinMo altogether and just run Android?

Nortmobile said:
So what is preventing us from having a dual boot android\WinMo lg expo? What are the hurdles? Is it drivers? I honestly don't know. Is it something you would have to flash the ROM to do? Could I (in theory) remove WinMo altogether and just run Android?
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Its 100% drivers. We need kernel drivers for most of the hardware in it someone to investigate what all the hardware exactly is etc so we can define the whole hardware set and then make a task list to define what is first second third etc to get working its a ton of work.

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I got my hands on a full dump from an LG VS740 (Ally). If you're too lazy to look it up, the Ally runs a MSM7627 600 MHz, has a QWERTY keyboard and runs Android. I believe most of the other hardware is identical to the GW820 except the Ally is CDMA. If anyone wants the files to work on a dual boot then let me know... until then, the files are mine all mine
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There is one huge problem there the proc is totally different generation/series from the ally to the expo. Expo is not msm but it is qsd. qsd changes everything...

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There is one huge problem there the proc is totally different generation/series from the ally to the expo. Expo is not msm but it is qsd. qsd changes everything...
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tru but there are quite a few phones on the market atm with qsd cpu's running android. porting the drivers wouldn't be impossible. i didn't say easy. but not impossible hell it's already running on the HD2 with the qsd series

This guy has actually booted Android on his Expo based on a free-device Android kernel using mattc Leo + Froyo w/Sense 1.5, but now it has reached the 1.8 version. You can also use Gen.Y DualBOOT v1.03 WVGA (800 x 480) to dual-boot WinMo and Android. Anyone has comment?
Guy's comment:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8219117&highlight=expo#post8219117
Mattc Froyo 1.8:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736545
Gen.Y DualBoot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5480057&postcount=7353

Has anyone else tried this yet?

[Q] Anyone else think the dev-ing on this phone is pretty much dead?

Lurker since the G1 days of yore (2008) but this is my first official thread so apologies if it's in the wrong section somehow.
The few devs that we have here on XDA that are currently working on the MTS seem have done a great job thus far, but with the "better", perhaps easier to mod, Galaxy S's, Droid-variants, and even other HTCs out there (and coming to town in the near future) it seems like the momentum has slowed to a near halt.
I'm currently running Eugene's CM6 with Dopio 806 oc kernel and I have a feeling that's about as good as it's gonna get; ie. 1000-1100 Quadrant, 10.7ish Linpack.
Now I understand the degree to which this post might appear ungrateful and, believe me, I'm more than thankful that I have been able to download all of this wonderful software for $0.00. I'm really flippin happy that these guys twitter each other all day long between having newborns, calculus labs, etc.. simply to provide the rest of pretty much the entire internet community with access to a sh-tload of pertinent info. That being said, short of studying Linux and the Android SDK for the next 2 years I'm not going to be able to actually offer any tangible contributions myself; simply opinions.
Thusly, I ask you guys...do you feel that the dev-ing is dying down permanently or is it just a temporary lull?
I ask because it seems very obvious to me that HD resolution and, at least, Snapdragon/Hummingbird processing speeds are gonna be the norm (for dev- friendly phones) in less than 8 months; in other words, the obsolescence of our phones seems to be creeping up faster than you can say Nokia 5190.
Thanks for reading.

Devs
-eugene
-dumfuq
-Wes(?)
-r0man
-Cyan
-Htcclay
The community is inferior to the G1 comm, which isnt surprising i guess. i have a feeling that the G2 will bring a lot of attention.

Ace42 said:
Devs
-eugene
-dumfuq
-Wes(?)
-r0man
-Cyan
-Htcclay
The community is inferior to the G1 comm, which isnt surprising i guess. i have a feeling that the G2 will bring a lot of attention.
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No it's not surprising. It would've been surprising a month ago even but not today.
You can take Eugene and Cyan off that short-list without pause; Cyan's got too much to do and, at least for the time-being, Eugene is working on the Vibrant; and three of the latest Roms are CM6 or versions of it w/o flash capability.

I've got some figuring out to do before I can be too much help but I have every intention of creating things for this device; my beef is that i'm not just going to swap the APK filesin a rom and re-release it as a "rom" ... I see to many communities/devices who's rom selection is nothing different than swapped kernels and swapped APKs....
To be blunt about it... if you don't like the level of development going on... (And I know you're not trying to *****) then jump in or out...
There are so many people that talk about wanting to learn and wanting to do this but they never even bother to try... If your concern is the lack of contribution, then contribute! Figure it out! You havta start somewhere bro...
and if you've got beef with the espresso dev dieing down then jump in and help it out...
I'm impressed that we dont' have a remount script... perhaps i'm overlooking some things but that seems like it'd be easy to get working so I'm trying to work on that .. it won't open the functionality no, but it'll make future work easier...

rubbachicken said:
I'm impressed that we dont' have a remount script... perhaps i'm overlooking some things but that seems like it'd be easy to get working so I'm trying to work on that .. it won't open the functionality no, but it'll make future work easier...
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The SPL on the phone is nand locked, you cant write to the phone while it's active(only in rec/fastboot). It stays in read only mode)

Yup... completely useless until a recovery has console access like amon ra's recovery. That's why no created any scripts. Besides... writing a script is no big deal anyway. Sorry to be mean but just being honest.

it's probably because of the specs of the phone. I mean I love my phone but it's so last generation.

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it's probably because of the specs of the phone. I mean I love my phone but it's so last generation.
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The only bad specs are the CPU(600MHz), screen res....It has a adreno GPu like N1,desire,etc...The Legend & Aria both have the 600MHz in them too..Those are the only things, but the CPU is much better than last gen phones...It has a newer architecture than the older MSM chips. The speed surpasses older phones like G1,MT3G,Hero,eris,droid in benchmarks.

Ace42 said:
The only bad specs are the CPU(600MHz), screen res....It has a adreno GPu like N1,desire,etc...The Legend & Aria both have the 600MHz in them too..Those are the only things, but the CPU is much better than last gen phones...It has a newer architecture than the older MSM chips. The speed surpasses older phones like G1,MT3G,Hero,eris,droid in benchmarks.
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face it... the phones a turd... i traded an HD2 for my MT3GS, and now the android on the HD2 is pretty stable and turning crazy numbers benchmark... i'm sad i traded

I can't wait to ditch this hpone for the mytouch hd in white
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Plus this is not only with deving but also with the official froyo version, t-mobile's mid-range phone isn't keeping up, because htc is deciding to upgrade the better hpones, and t-mobile threw in a heavily customized UI
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Oakley44 said:
No it's not surprising. It would've been surprising a month ago even but not today.
You can take Eugene and Cyan off that short-list without pause; Cyan's got too much to do and, at least for the time-being, Eugene is working on the Vibrant; and three of the latest Roms are CM6 or versions of it w/o flash capability.
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I thought that the reason Cyan isn't doing much was simply it was his wifes? Didn't he say that it was his wifes and that she was going out of the country for a couple of weeks?