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GPS settings?

Howdy,
I've just upgraded to the O2 Orbit phone, and am trying to get the GPS working, however, I can't seem to. In settings, all I can see is external gps, but this phone should have an inernal one (it even has the antenna in the back).
For the life of me, i can't seem to find out how to get the GPS working... anyone could help?
a.

Hi Adam.
Which GPS software are you using on your device?

At the moment, none, as before I bite the bullet and buy one, I wanted to see how good the GPS receiver was... so I tried the TomTom GPS driver, that includes a testing thing that shows locks on sats, and so far, after about 10 minutes, still nothing...
Having said that, I tried Google Maps, and that can't get a GPS lock either.

Try making sure the settings are setup for the default configuration before using GOOGLE MAPS.
Start>Settings>External GPS>GPS PROGRAM PORT = COM4
Then try google maps using try MENU>Track Location and see if the GPS starts working flashing AMBER LED and you should get a text message at the top of the screen saying initializing GPS and searching for sats.
Good luck, I found this Artemis to work beautifully with TOMTOM6 and a 2GB mSD card.

I've added a program called GPS Viewer, this gives you GPS gives some handy GPS details.
As for the GPS settings:
Programs
GPS program port:COM4
Hardware
GPS hardware portNone)
Baud rate:115200
Access
I have 'Manage GPS automatically' ticked.
My deveice always seems to want a vertically sight of the sky to locate the satellites but once connected i can take it indoors no problems.

Interestlingly, when I make the change to Baud Rate in hardware, and click ok... if I go back, it has reset itself to 4800?
A.

quickGPS
in my HTC3300, I've found QUICKGPS ? I've tried to run it, but after a few minutes it send a message so it cannot make the connection
Anyone can help me
thx a lot
michael

quick GPS is just to speed up the process the phone neesd to locate the sattelites.
well but if i were you i would check the baudrate. the default setting is at 4800

thank you very much really nice tip i spend about 3 hours try to get it working but now done it in 1 minuts and working but keep saying no valid signals whats that mean???
bex said:
Try making sure the settings are setup for the default configuration before using GOOGLE MAPS.
Start>Settings>External GPS>GPS PROGRAM PORT = COM4
Then try google maps using try MENU>Track Location and see if the GPS starts working flashing AMBER LED and you should get a text message at the top of the screen saying initializing GPS and searching for sats.
Good luck, I found this Artemis to work beautifully with TOMTOM6 and a 2GB mSD card.
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GPS Lock, anyone with issues?

Has anyone managed to get their GPS Locking in Google Maps?
I've used QuickGPS to download the database and set Google Maps to use GPS but it never gets a fix.
When in TomTom it knows theres satalites about but doesn't connect to any.
Wondering if I have a duff.... anyone else?
How fast do you connect to satalites?

Have you been out of the house? Some houses really interferre with the connection.
Also, maybe there are some settings in the application you have to change? It should get a fix pretty quick. (first time from 10 sec tot 60, after that, below 10 sec).
So you have updated the quick GPS? Did you (after running tomtom and getting the update for the first time) do a soft reset?

quarintus said:
Have you been out of the house? Some houses really interferre with the connection.
Also, maybe there are some settings in the application you have to change? It should get a fix pretty quick. (first time from 10 sec tot 60, after that, below 10 sec).
So you have updated the quick GPS? Did you (after running tomtom and getting the update for the first time) do a soft reset?
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Yeah, did a soft reset after I turned A-GPS on in Advanced Config program. Have tried it in work which usually gets a fix, but will try outdoors, just thought I'd ask the question first

why did you do it on in advanced config? maybe that's where it went wrong. Can't remember me having to put A-GPS on in advanced Config program.

I had the issue in google maps where I could not get a lock. I had to manually configure connectivity to com port 4 in settings.
After that it has worked perfectly. I cannot say if TomTom works or not as I am waiting for my ne SD card to be delivered.
I have however noticed that everytime I sync with active sync QuickGPS always moans it is out of date even thoguh I might have updated it about 1/2 an hour ago.
Its not a major issue as its connected to my PC and just downloads the data again. i'm just ignoring it.

Do not use A-gps.
I have my TP2 fixing with no problem without it: first fix in 55", then always under 10".
Try and use for first fix Quickgps.

ninja.rogue said:
Do not use A-gps.
I have my TP2 fixing with no problem without it: first fix in 55", then always under 10".
Try and use for first fix Quickgps.
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Brilliant, turned off A-GPS and loaded TomTom 7.915/Google Maps, got a lock, even indoors.
Spot on, thanks for that!

Turn off A-GPS?
I keep seeing that to make the GPS work better, while also using QuickGPS, the A-GPS should be turned off?
How do I do this?
I have only had the Touch Pro2 for a few days, but have not been able to get a satellite lock in Google Maps even when standing outside away from many buildings.
If it would work better with A-GPS disabled, please tell me how to do this!
Thanks,
Dazzer

Dazzer said:
I keep seeing that to make the GPS work better, while also using QuickGPS, the A-GPS should be turned off?
How do I do this?
I have only had the Touch Pro2 for a few days, but have not been able to get a satellite lock in Google Maps even when standing outside away from many buildings.
If it would work better with A-GPS disabled, please tell me how to do this!
Thanks,
Dazzer
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It should be turned off by default, I turned mine on using a program called Advanced Config.

nicelad_uk said:
It should be turned off by default, I turned mine on using a program called Advanced Config.
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Ok, thanks, just going to go try Google Maps again to see if I can get a lock. Maybe I just wasn't outside long enough, or far enough away from buildings last time.
Hopefully I can make GPS work soon

Ok, I just sat outside for about 20 minutes, in the middle of a field, away from any buildings, and was unable to get any GPS lock!
What is wrong here?
I have not touched the GPS Port settings in the control panel, but Google Maps only says Seeking Satellites (0) all the time.
If I do change Google Maps to use COM 4 Baud 4800, it gets worse and says Seeking Satellites (48037656) or some other equally stupid number! At least 0 makes sense, as there are not millions of GPS satellites, only about 20!
Please help, surely there is some way to make GPS work?
Thanks,
DW

Hi all,
AGPS is not currently supported by any UK Networks, so should be turned off if in the UK.
Cheers,
Beasty

i think i ended up setting all mine to com0 but i think it wasn't working originally coz i was sitting in the car and it badly needs a wash (yes that bad). Just stuck it up by window for around 2 mins and it had 8 satellites but i've reset it so often since i last used the gps i wouldn't have been surprised with around 5 mins ... 20 on the other hand is a bit daft

Yeah, I'm beginning to wonder if there is something wrong with settings somewhere, as in 20 minutes outside it never indicated a single satellite in Google Maps.
I have downloaded the Advanced Configuration tool, and it says that A-GPS is Disabled, which is correct for the UK, so there is nothing to change here.
I have tried changing the Port settings, but I don't know what I should change it too. The Hardware GPS port is blank!
Getting close to giving up for the day, but I really want to get GPS working soon!

Dazzer said:
Yeah, I'm beginning to wonder if there is something wrong with settings somewhere, as in 20 minutes outside it never indicated a single satellite in Google Maps.
I have downloaded the Advanced Configuration tool, and it says that A-GPS is Disabled, which is correct for the UK, so there is nothing to change here.
I have tried changing the Port settings, but I don't know what I should change it too. The Hardware GPS port is blank!
Getting close to giving up for the day, but I really want to get GPS working soon!
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Ok, I had the same problems, have you updated Quick GPS? Are you using Google Maps?
If you go into settings and go to External GPS my GPS Program Port os COM4 next page GPS Hardware Port is none and Baud Rate is 4800.
Make sure settings are same and restart phone.
Have you installed anything since getting phone? Might be worth doing hard reset and trying is "out of the box" so to speak.

I could confirm the GPS is working and flawlessly! Much quicker than my old HTC P3600i and the locking is done in the CBD area!
I used the QuickGPS (download the latest update) and then using my GPS software called TechrificWay for Australian (it's a rebrand of NavNGo iGo MyWay 8)
Very happy ^^
(I need to set the TechrificWay application settings to find the GPS unit on COM4 though)

I actually spoke to HTC today and they think it's actually a fault with the hardware, possibly the internal antenna for the GPS is not connected properly.
Slightly annoying as I now need to send it back to get a replacement, or have it repaired, but good in that it's not a problem with me using it! There definitely is something wrong that I can't fix, I just can't wait to get one that works now!

I can get a lock, but get bad lag, and it wonders off course regularly. I wonder if it could be that the radio is not that great for GPS, as many other HTCs have suffered with GPS performance that has gotten better with certain flashed radios?
HTC gave me a generic response of "check these settings" (which were all as they should be in terms of com port and baud rate etc... So I think I'll have to call them if it keeps crapping out on me

(Fortunately) For me it turned out to be a genuine hardware fault causing the GPS to not work. I spoke to HTC and they believe I was the first in the UK to need to get a replacement due to a genuine hardware fault, which I guess is an honor (just a very annoying one!).
Even with the GPS not working for the week that I used it, I loved the handset, can't fault it, and can't wait until tomorrow when I should be receiving my brand new replacement, hopefully with working GPS and no faults!
Thanks for the suggestions here though, I needed to make sure it was a hardware fault before sending it back for a replacement.

I've tested three over 30km trips with Tom Tom 7 installed on the device.
Haven't lost a signal once. So it works fine here in Finland.
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Google Maps 4.0 Unable to locate Satellites

I have downloaded the 4.0 update. Now I get a Weak GPS signal alert after it searches for roughly 10 minutes.
I have tried all Com0-9 ports, hard resets, and uninstalling/reinstalling Google Maps 4.0
I have the US Cellular HTC Touch Pro 2, WM 6.5 pro, running the standard ROM.
Is this a HTC hardware issue, Google Maps issue, or USCC tower issues??
I had no problem finding 8 - 10 satellites with the old version.

Using my Tilt2 with stock ROM, Google Maps 4.0 got a fix for me.

GPS is a piece of garbage for this phone, at least for me,
It just never worked again for me since the stock rom (always says seeking satellites 0)
Alos,
"My location" is always is in the same spot (I can be miles away and says i'm in the same place)
I haven't done any research on this two issues, maybe some has my problems too?

Well maybe you should try this.
After I flash a new rom to get gps to work I have to do this.
Run "htcGPStool"
Leave phone outside for about 3-5mins until it gets a lock. After that my gps locks in 30seconds or less
ps, the baud rate for the tilt 2 is 57600- com 4

try the link in my signature for the aGPS cab.
This enables aGPS and changes the servers from the public ones which are configured on HTC (and many other devices) by default to the nokia ones which are maintained better and lead to a faster lock.
After installing the cab, run and update/download QuickGPS and make sure you have a data connection enabled then either try google again or htcGPStool or any other gps utility and see how fast you get a lock then
initial lock might take up to a minute, but locks after that come almost instantly.

fone_fanatic said:
make sure you have a data connection enabled
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Why does one need a data connection for GPS? OK, for Google Maps, yes, but just getting a fix doesn't require one -- or does your CAB do something that /does/ require a data connection?

A while ago I read people enabling bluetooth to get GPS working. Yesterday I disabled the cellular phone and it looked like GPS was locking after this. Not a fix if you ask me anyways...

pistou said:
Why does one need a data connection for GPS? OK, for Google Maps, yes, but just getting a fix doesn't require one -- or does your CAB do something that /does/ require a data connection?
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you need a data connection for aGPS. GPS itself does not need one, but the a in aGPS stands for assisted where it uses your data connection to connect to a server to locate you more precisely.
(My understanding of this is that basically your device sends info to the server about which cell site towers are near you, the server uses this info to tell your device which satellites are best for your location, so your device isn't just looking for every sat. its looking for specific ones.)
Here's the wiki for aGPS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
Theres also a bunch of websites with more info regarding aGPS but its best to have your data connection enabled if you want to use aGPS.

gotwake424 said:
Well maybe you should try this.
After I flash a new rom to get gps to work I have to do this.
Run "htcGPStool"
Leave phone outside for about 3-5mins until it gets a lock. After that my gps locks in 30seconds or less
ps, the baud rate for the tilt 2 is 57600- com 4
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Is "htcGPStool" QuickGPS on the programs list?? If not, explain thank you. As for the baud rate, etc... are you talking about the GPS hardware port? My settings say (none) and Baud rate: 4800???? This I have never messed with, could this be the problem??

ATT Tilt 2 w/ stock ROM...Loaded google 4.0 today with no connectivity issues. I normally able to locked my GPS signal in seconds.....

dataylor said:
Is "htcGPStool" QuickGPS on the programs list?? If not, explain thank you.
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No, "HTC gps tool" is not the same as QuickGPS and it doesn't do the same thing.
AFAIK, QuickGPS talks to a server and gets info on where/what satellites should be visible for your location, your location determined from triangulation (or some kind of location) of nearby cell towers.
HTCGPStool uses the GPS functionality of your phone in some way that helps subsequent lock on satellites. Honestly, I don't know exactly what/how it does -- but it's not the same as Quick GPS.

MCbrian said:
No, "HTC gps tool" is not the same as QuickGPS and it doesn't do the same thing.
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Ok, where is htcGPStool??? Looked through the settings and have not found anything that directs me to HTC gps tool.
I have an "external GPS" icon that directs me to GPS settings allowing me to change GPS program ports, and the GPS hardware ports.

Brodie619 said:
ATT Tilt 2 w/ stock ROM...Loaded google 4.0 today with no connectivity issues. I normally able to locked my GPS signal in seconds.....
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awesome, It locates me just find just doesn't find any satellites. Then I get Weak GPS signal screen.

MCbrian said:
No, "HTC gps tool" is not the same as QuickGPS and it doesn't do the same thing.
AFAIK, QuickGPS talks to a server and gets info on where/what satellites should be visible for your location, your location determined from triangulation (or some kind of location) of nearby cell towers.
HTCGPStool uses the GPS functionality of your phone in some way that helps subsequent lock on satellites. Honestly, I don't know exactly what/how it does -- but it's not the same as Quick GPS.
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QuickGPS downloads the ephemeris data so that it can predict where the satelites are, which ones are visible, and which ones to use. From that data it is able to get a fix faster. There is no fix derived from ephemeris data, and any GPS will work without it. The GPS device in that case must basically just scan channels and listen for enough data to get a fix.
That all said; no problems here with Google Maps.. If I'm inside I'll often get a location approximation based on cell ID's and whatever goes on behind that location calculation and depending upon how the building is constructed I may or may not get a GPS signal eventually. For example my house, no problem, I might see the approximate location for 10s then the real GPS location. At work with heavy beamed roofs and several layers of metal between me and the sky I'll never get a signal inside except beside a window. If I'm outside, I nearly immediately get a GPS fix.
http://www.how-gps-works.com/glossary/ephemeris-data.shtml
As far as I know HTC GPS Tool does nothing except allow you to basically reset the GPS, ie: perform a warm or cold restart on it. Perhaps this will help, vs rebooting the phone, if GPS is not behaving. I very rarely will find the GPS is simply not functioning after a reboot.
This tool also might let you change the COM and BAUD but you would not likely need to do that on a phone with a built-in GPS. Even if you were using an external bluetooth GPS I'm not sure you'd want to change the COM/BAUD here, you'd simply use the COM port you set up with that bluetooth device.
That all said, the only time I don't get an immediate GPS fix in Google Maps is if I'm indoors. If I'm in a light structure, like my house, I'll get a cellular approximation for 10-20s. If I'm at work with many beams and much metal above me I'll never get a fix inside.

Let me try to be more specific.
1. When utilizing the app, it locates me within 3100 meters. (pressing the blue button, lower right hand corner)
2. After about 10 minutes of the upper right hand corner stating "seeking GPS satellites (0)" the screen gives me a Weak GPS signal message.
3. I have tried changing com 0-9 ports, with no luck.
4. GPS is enabled
5. I have hard reset the device and reloaded all my working apps.
6. I have uninstalled/reinstalled Google Maps 4.0
7. I have tried different locations throughout Northeast, WISCONSIN.
8. I have tried it while utilizing WIFI. No luck
9. I have tried the Bluetooth remedy. No luck
10. Waiting on replies from HTC, USCC, and GOOGLE.
11. XDA so far is the only place with anybody responding.

HTC Weather TAB
Just got done talking to a USCC tech rep.
He has stated that he is unable to give any technical help with the Google Map app. (no kidding sherlock) He was not even of any help when it comes to the GPS settings, but he did state I am the second person that he has talked to with the same problem.
Now to see how quickly HTC, or Google responds.
The only worry I have is not knowing if it is a hardware issue that should be corrected by HTC. I noticed the HTC WEATHER tab works fine. is this using the same GPS settings as the Google Map app??
also, I have been holding out on the aGPS cab posted earlier. If, and when, I use this fix I will post the results.

dataylor said:
Ok, where is htcGPStool??? Looked through the settings and have not found anything that directs me to HTC gps tool.
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HTC GPS Tool is not a standard app. Some cooks include it in their custom roms. I don't have a link for it handy, but if you search on the forum boards for "HTC GPS Tool" you'll find it.
That said, I don't know how important it is anyway...

ok, talked to an HTC tech. We checked the settings and these where adjusted. Still nothing. Got rid of Google Maps and tryd BING, and still nothing. HTC TF3D Weather tab seemed to update just fine, this gave the tech a reason to dump me on MSN and Google. Do you really think BING and GOOGLE share some programming similiarities????

Did you run Quick gps? That did it for me when I first got my phone.
It is installed under the programs lists.

dataylor said:
ok, talked to an HTC tech. We checked the settings and these where adjusted. Still nothing. Got rid of Google Maps and tryd BING, and still nothing. HTC TF3D Weather tab seemed to update just fine, this gave the tech a reason to dump me on MSN and Google. Do you really think BING and GOOGLE share some programming similiarities????
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I think they both access GPS via WM. Maybe HTC Sense (Weather tab) directly access the GPS?

GPS Failed after a new google maps install.

I switched back to an older version which also did not work.
I tried a bunch of different settings and did get it working then today I keep getting a device.exe error and the GPS does not work at all.
Yes I have:
My Location set (not 911 online).
Windows is managing my GPS
Google Maps does not work
Bing Map does not work
IN Advanced Config I have Enabled and Disabled Assisted GPS
I am on verizon.
I searched and came up short on answers. Has anyone had this issue? Is there a fix? What Else can I look for?
TIA,
Dan

Dan McBoost said:
I switched back to an older version which also did not work.
I tried a bunch of different settings and did get it working then today I keep getting a device.exe error and the GPS does not work at all.
Yes I have:
My Location set (not 911 online).
Windows is managing my GPS
Google Maps does not work
Bing Map does not work
IN Advanced Config I have Enabled and Disabled Assisted GPS
I am on verizon.
I searched and came up short on answers. Has anyone had this issue? Is there a fix? What Else can I look for?
TIA,
Dan
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On my TP2 the settings are COM4 and 38400 baud. Try those - set it from inside the program - each application typically has a "Manual" setting for the GPS.

use the new bing maps...it's far superior...

Try using Visual GPSce to see if your GPS is working properly.
http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm
After installing, go to "Connect" and change the settings to COM4 and 4800 baud.
This is a simple program that shows whether you are picking up the GPS satellites or not, and will often work when other programs (like Google Maps) time out. If you are outside, you should start picking up the satellites within seconds. The bars will start to fill up (meaning the signal from the satellites is being received), and the indicator at the bottom right will turn green when you have a good enough lock for an accurate location.

da9th_one said:
use the new bing maps...it's far superior...
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I disagree, in my opinion the traffic provided by Google is much better. It also includes incidents and construction, and is easier to see at a glance how much congestion is visible.
Bing is prettier, but not more efficient. In my opinion, of course.

redpoint73 said:
Try using Visual GPSce to see if your GPS is working properly.
http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm
After installing, go to "Connect" and change the settings to COM4 and 4800 baud.
This is a simple program that shows whether you are picking up the GPS satellites or not, and will often work when other programs (like Google Maps) time out. If you are outside, you should start picking up the satellites within seconds. The bars will start to fill up (meaning the signal from the satellites is being received), and the indicator at the bottom right will turn green when you have a good enough lock for an accurate location.
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So your sis using 4800? Mine is always at 38400...

stevedebi said:
So your sis using 4800? Mine is always at 38400...
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Its listed as 4800 baud for the Rhodium countless times on these forums, and elsewhere.
I also don't think it matter that much. On the newest Energy ROMs, the HTC GPS tool is defaulted to 57600 for some reason, and the tool started picking up satellites just fine.

Thanks Guys! I went back to an older google maps and reset all of the settings and finally did get it working.

[Q] GPS not working at all now - what have I missed?

I updated to EnergyROM about a week ago, and my GPS only works in Google Maps. The GPS Test and other utilities do not see satellites.
1. I have run HTC GPS Test tool, and the $GPGSV info shows 16 satellites in view (I believe this comes from aGPS), but the 3 coordinate pieces of data are ,,, - meaning no data coming in. GPSTest also shows no satellites.
2. $GPGSA in HTC GPS Test second argument is 1, "fix not available"
3. I am on the latest EnergyROM. I have tried 2 radios, my original one that was in the stock ROM (4.48.25.20), and 4.49.25.95. I have tried with and without aGPS. I have tried some of the tweaks of the Intermediate driver settings:
A. With Advanced config: Start/Tools/Adv Config/GPS:
disable GPS logging
logfile name must be empty
old logfile name must be empty
maximum size of logfile must be 0
(soft reset, then...) delete the files :
\windows\GPSLogFile.txt and \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
B. Then edit registry
Under: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\
Drivers\GpsOneDevice\PollInterval -> 100 (default is 1000)
Drivers\InputBufferSize -> 1024 (default is 4096)
Drivers\OutputBufferSize -> 1024 (default is 4096)
Drivers\SleepOnNoData -> 100 (default is 1000)
Multiplexer\MaxBufferSize -> 512 (by default not present, you have to create it as a New Value)
4. I have 2 AT&T HTC Tilt 2 phones, both configured identically (I move SIM card between them). Both are on the same ROM and Radio, and both act exactly the same - no GPS signals. So I don't think the GPS has failed, as it's two different phones.
5. External GPS set to COM4 (which appears correct based on the HTC tool seeing NMEA info on that port), hardware is set to No Port, 4800 baud. I also have it set to let Windows manage the GPS.
6. I have tried two versions of the Energy ROM, doing a Task29 in between; Feb 12 and Feb 27. No difference.
7. I run Bing, and it never gets a location. I do see my location in Weather though. Today Google only senses location to within 3500 meters; earlier this week it was 100 meters.
I am trying to be exhaustive and deliberate in finding the problem, but I have run out of ideas. Something must have changed, as I used this GPS all the time with Bing for voice navigation, and it was 100% reliable. Can anyone help with what could be the problem?
Thanks for your help!

One additional piece of info, I just did a hard reset of one of the two Tilt 2's, tested without agps, no lock on satellites. I then turned on agps, downloaded data, tried again, still no lock. I am outside on a gorgeous day with hardly a cloud in the sky too.
Thanks for your help - I am just out of ideas...

Is it possible there is some program in the cooked ROM conflicting with the GPS? Anyone with an idea?

Try it with the stock ROMs and see if it works there. If it doesn't then it might be hardware related.
HTCTilt2ATTOriginalShipROM.exe
RUU_Rhodium_S2_ATT_US_2.10.502.4_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.95_Signed_Ship.exe

If you have the program "QuickGPS", check if your satellite list expired. If it did, update and try your GPS program again.

com4 for software, none for hardware, BAUDRATE 57600. this works for me. and for some reason this gets set back to 4800 sometimes and that does not work.

tpc tp2, tmobile stock, sense turned off, wm 6.1
well, not so sure about my previous response. might have been a coincidence. i go back to external gps and cannot get it to stay at 57600.
i did download htc gps tools and found that if i had it in airplane mode it took seconds to find the satellite. if i had data communications enabled it took about 1.5 minutes. this was consistent.