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Tethering issues with Mac OS X

Hi,
i am currently trying to tether my tp2 with my mac book. With the xda orbit i had before the tp2 this was no issue at all however i cant seem to get it to work with the tp2. Problem is that the tp2 doesn't seem to advertise its PAN functionality anymore when the devices are paired. So the macbook thinks the tp2 doesn't support PAN. Now when I use the internet sharing app on the tp2, it tries to connect to the macbook and then tells me that the macbook wouldn't support PAN and therefore the connection cannot be shared. On the xda this worked slightly different: the xda would open up a PAN when I started internet sharing. Then i told the macbook to connect to this PAN. So i have a catch-22 here. Any ideas on how I could get this to work?
thank you,
Kork

On a funny sidenote: this worked yesterday for a few minutes. I activated connection sharing on the tp2, and it asked me where to connect to, i selected the macbook, et voila... This was actually even better than on my XDA as I could connect in a single step.
Today i just get the message that the target system (my Macbook) would not support PAN and therefore no connection could be made - which is an outright lie...

Called HTC about it. They were actually clueless and recommended to hard reset the device. Well I got all the time in the world, did a hard reset, no change. This still remains not working. Has anyone a working bluetooth tethering between the TP2 and Mac OS X?

Had a nice talk with Apple Support for half an hour now. We tried the usual stuff, and the guy was very friendly and trying to help me, but the bottom line was "we do not support windows mobile phones, htc has to make it work with a Mac". This came not totally unexpected though. So back to square one, I am not yet giving up. But no tethering is a blocker...

Okay, guys we are getting closer. I digged deeper into the Bluetooth Settings of Mac OS X and found out that the PAN set up is stored in com.apple.Bluetooth.plist in /Library/Preferences on the Mac. With my old XDA paired, i got some Entry in there called PANDevices and the Device-ID of the XDA in that list. The Device-ID of my TP2 was not in there. So i manually added the Device-ID of my TP2 and guess what - Tethering Happyness . Problem is, on any reboot, the setting gets lost. So i am going to write a small script that fixes the plist file. I'm doing a bit of testing as well, to see if this is really the fix, but I'm getting close.

Seems that wasn't it either. It seems that the restart of Mac OS X's bluetooth daemon actually did the trick, the changes in the file were actually pointless. So now I got reproducible behaviour:
1. Restart Computer
- Connection sharing from TP2 to Mac doesn't work.
2. Restart the bluetooth daemon
- sudo killall -HUP blued
3. In bluetooth preferences, click Advanced and tick "Share my internet connection with other bluetooth devices"
4. Start the internet sharing application on the TP2. Now it works. You have to repeat steps 1 to 3 if you reboot your Mac.
Going to give Apple another call, as this clearly looks like some bug on Mac OSX side.

This is exactly why if I get the TP2 I will be keeping my n78 or e71 as a backup phone. With Joiku Spot it makes it so easy to tether. Actually, I wonder if there is a program like Joiku Spot that would do this.
For those who don't know, Joiku Spot makes your phone a wireless hub, and creates a wireless network which your computer can attach, thus using the internet from your phone on your computer. I have a macbook, and with Joiku Spot, i'm getting roughly 1800 download speeds on my mac when i'm tethered.

There is: http://www.joikushop.com/?action=products&mode=productDetails&product_id=265 - > WMWifiRouter.
However, having WiFI + UTMS is going to drain your battery pretty quickly, that's why i use bluetooth all the time, which makes the device last much longer. But i guess the WIFI option would be more compatible with all kinds of OSes...

Yes, but when I am tethering i generally have access to a plug outlet so i have no problem plugging my phone in while i'm using it as a wifi hot spot. I was using my e71 via bluetooth on both OS X and XP and my speeds are doubled with using wifi. bluetooth can only transfer so fast.

Well i use it a lot on train rides where you can consider yourself lucky if you got an outlet for your laptop let alone one for your mobile phone... So bluetooth is the way to go...

You could use a USB charge cable to keep your phone powered off of the laptop battery, while using WMWiFiRouter or any other similar program for your connection.
Although I guess if your trying to have all this done wirelessly, that kind of defeats the purpose.

That would be a good reason! but, TP2 supports usb charging, so that shouldn't be a problem. Then, you can plug your laptop in at work or wherever you're going!
Just read what Tecknik said, so it's about the same!

TP2 tether to macbook pro
Hello, I'm also trying to get my tp tethered to macbook. There is an option under BT in Mac to specify username and a phone number to use BT to connect to a modem, do i need to specify any of this information? OR do I just need to select to "share internet with other BT device" on the mac?
Kork said:
Seems that wasn't it either. It seems that the restart of Mac OS X's bluetooth daemon actually did the trick, the changes in the file were actually pointless. So now I got reproducible behaviour:
1. Restart Computer
- Connection sharing from TP2 to Mac doesn't work.
2. Restart the bluetooth daemon
- sudo killall -HUP blued
3. In bluetooth preferences, click Advanced and tick "Share my internet connection with other bluetooth devices"
4. Start the internet sharing application on the TP2. Now it works. You have to repeat steps 1 to 3 if you reboot your Mac.
Going to give Apple another call, as this clearly looks like some bug on Mac OSX side.
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TP2 tether to macbook pro
HI Kork, do you know how to do the same thing but through a USB cable to tether TP to Macbookpro OSX?
Kork said:
Seems that wasn't it either. It seems that the restart of Mac OS X's bluetooth daemon actually did the trick, the changes in the file were actually pointless. So now I got reproducible behaviour:
1. Restart Computer
- Connection sharing from TP2 to Mac doesn't work.
2. Restart the bluetooth daemon
- sudo killall -HUP blued
3. In bluetooth preferences, click Advanced and tick "Share my internet connection with other bluetooth devices"
4. Start the internet sharing application on the TP2. Now it works. You have to repeat steps 1 to 3 if you reboot your Mac.
Going to give Apple another call, as this clearly looks like some bug on Mac OSX side.
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I used to be able to tether fine about a week ago but now i'm getting the following msg:
"failed to establish internet sharing connection to remote device as it supports only network access point (nap) mode"
any thoughts? there is a bluetooth pan connection in network settings on my macbook. I've deleted it and recreated with no luck.
and "share my internet connection..." is checked in my device's advanced options from the bluetooth settings on my macbook.

fone_fanatic said:
"failed to establish internet sharing connection to remote device as it supports only network access point (nap) mode"
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That's the message i get all the time after rebooting. You could try the steps I described above, this usually makes it work for me. Until next reboot, though.

Kork said:
There is: http://www.joikushop.com/?action=products&mode=productDetails&product_id=265 - > WMWifiRouter.
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I Tether on all my MacBook/Netbook using WMWiFiRouter all the time.
Just enable Wifi on your Mac and it autodetects some PAN settings -even on the airport card. Give this app a try.
This has known to work on Tiger and Leopard. Never tried it on SnowLeopard though.

Well sounds easy enough. However isn't Wifi eating up your battery like a starving ogre?

Killing BT with Terminal worked great. I have been struggling with this problem for a couple of days now. Nice work. Very much appreciated. I am going to link to this solution from my post. I did not yet verify the failure to function after reboot but I will test that. I'd love to have a script that does this automatically.

myknyte said:
I Tether on all my MacBook/Netbook using WMWiFiRouter all the time.
Just enable Wifi on your Mac and it autodetects some PAN settings -even on the airport card. Give this app a try.
This has known to work on Tiger and Leopard. Never tried it on SnowLeopard though.
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WMWiFiRouter eats up way too much battery, faster then the device can charge via USB (and my USB charing isn't working but thats another story)
Kork said:
That's the message i get all the time after rebooting. You could try the steps I described above, this usually makes it work for me. Until next reboot, though.
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Thanks, worked just fine.
Is there a way we can create a script to place on the desktop so we can just open up a shortcut that will automatically do this?

Connecting to internet via PC

Hi,
Can we connect our HTC Desire to a PC via USB cable, and then connect to the internet via that PC internet connection?
We are able to use this way on Windows Mobile 6.x + Microsoft ActiveSync.
Thanks.

I think so, please try the following:
* Make sure you have installed HTC Sync first and have your SIM card inserted in your phone.
1. Make sure your phone’s data connection is turned on.
2. Connect the phone to the computer using the USB cable.
3. On the Connect to PC screen, select Internet sharing, and then tap Done.
Hope that works.

Mastoid said:
I think so, please try the following:
* Make sure you have installed HTC Sync first and have your SIM card inserted in your phone.
1. Make sure your phone’s data connection is turned on.
2. Connect the phone to the computer using the USB cable.
3. On the Connect to PC screen, select Internet sharing, and then tap Done.
Hope that works.
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I am wondering, if I have mobile broadband card that I use to catch 3G internet...could I attach the Desire via USB cable to my laptop and share the internet connection between both my laptop and phone?
Not tethering (using phone's internet as main internet source for computer) rather -
Mobile Broadband Card ----> Laptop & Desire?

redrazr7791 said:
I am wondering, if I have mobile broadband card that I use to catch 3G internet...could I attach the Desire via USB cable to my laptop and share the internet connection between both my laptop and phone?
Not tethering (using phone's internet as main internet source for computer) rather -
Mobile Broadband Card ----> Laptop & Desire?
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I'm not entirely sure this would work as the phone might resort to using it's own variety of data plans.

Mastoid said:
I'm not entirely sure this would work as the phone might resort to using it's own variety of data plans.
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Well...I have been wondering if you could share the internet connection from a broadband card between a laptop and mobile phone (connected via USB cable). I guess I will just have to try it out when my phone gets here.

That is the other way around
You have described phone internet sharing or tethering.
What I meant is like this:
1. Your desktop PC is connected to internet
2. Connect your phone to the PC using USB cable
3. You can now browse the internet in your phone ... using internet connection from the PC.
Reverse tethering. We can do this with WM + ActivySync (I dont remember the exact option).
Well, we can forget about this ... I have searched last night and Android simply cant do it.
Why we need this? Sometimes, at work, we cant connect our phone to the office WiFi and 3G is not available.
Mastoid said:
I think so, please try the following:
* Make sure you have installed HTC Sync first and have your SIM card inserted in your phone.
1. Make sure your phone’s data connection is turned on.
2. Connect the phone to the computer using the USB cable.
3. On the Connect to PC screen, select Internet sharing, and then tap Done.
Hope that works.
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I also have this need.
In case HTC ships updates on-the-air it would be much better not to lose some of the limited 2GB data plan per month I have.

Can you not just set up your pc as a wifi access point and the connect your phone via wifi?

That is a way, creating wifi adhoc, but sometimes you cant (restricted by security policy).
wuthton said:
Can you not just set up your pc as a wifi access point and the connect your phone via wifi?
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gogol said:
That is a way, creating wifi adhoc, but sometimes you cant (restricted by security policy).
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Screw security policy! ;?P
Using a adhoc connection would be the simplest (and best?). But if you can't (not allowed) to set up a adhoc connection, you could (unless bridging is forbidden, but then tere's not much you can do..) connect a wifi router/ap to your ethernet card (if it's in use, use a USB-version). Bridge your network connection with the ethernet card and the router/ap and then connect to that..
A long shot? Perhaps! But it should work. If you set the ap to not broadcast its SSID it's harder for others to detect..
And you should be able to run a router/ap on batteries..
Just an idea.. :?D

gogol said:
Reverse tethering. We can do this with WM + ActivySync (I dont remember the exact option).
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Yes, i understand what you mean now, this feature was available on WM and ActiveSync... i remember setting it up while going through the ActiveSync Wizard, but AFAIK, i could not find a similar option for this with the Desire
EDIT: Could you not try setting up Ad-hoc mode on phone and PC (the PC will have a wireless network adaptor), then turn Internet Connection Sharing on in Windows, and connect the phone to the PC?

I did, but it does not work with my work laptop. Probably restricted.
But I found a WiFi access point already Installed by my co-worker ...
Well, this feature is not really important, but useful ...
Mastoid said:
EDIT: Could you not try setting up Ad-hoc mode on phone and PC (the PC will have a wireless network adaptor), then turn Internet Connection Sharing on in Windows, and connect the phone to the PC?
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gogol said:
I did, but it does not work with my work laptop. Probably restricted.
But I found a WiFi access point already Installed by my co-worker ...
Well, this feature is not really important, but useful ...
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I agree and it's a shame... this was useful when I had it working on my WM device.

Mastoid said:
Yes, i understand what you mean now, this feature was available on WM and ActiveSync... i remember setting it up while going through the ActiveSync Wizard, but AFAIK, i could not find a similar option for this with the Desire
EDIT: Could you not try setting up Ad-hoc mode on phone and PC (the PC will have a wireless network adaptor), then turn Internet Connection Sharing on in Windows, and connect the phone to the PC?
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Could someone please explain how to do this. I can see how to set up the ad-hoc network and to set it allow internet sharing. But a wi-fi scan on my HTC Desire does not find the network.

unfortunately reverse tethering or connecting the phone through computer's connection (through an ad hoc wifi) is not possible, which quite frankly is very annoying, hopwfully they will fix this in an upcoming ROM or something.

[q] same prblm but diff device
i have an android tablet. I want 2 connect to the net. But dont have wifi @ home. any way to connect my ericsson phone (or any other 3g modem) via bluetooth or usb(yes the tab acts as a usb mass storage host) to connect to the net as the tab doesn't hav a sim card port. And my tab is Augen Gentouch78 v2 tab not rooted and with stock rom
Any help would be appreciated

gogol said:
Hi,
Can we connect our HTC Desire to a PC via USB cable, and then connect to the internet via that PC internet connection?
We are able to use this way on Windows Mobile 6.x + Microsoft ActiveSync.
Thanks.
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I don't think that there is a way to do this at the moment with out flashing a Rom, however I'm using RCMix S GingerSense Rom, it seems that HTC Sense version 2.1 has added "internet pass-through" as a option when you plug the phone into a PC, however will HTC leave this in if/when they do an official release I don't know.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

Yeah, if you install a sense 2.0 or 2.1 Rom it has an internet pass through option which allows you do do that
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Share internet from laptop to HTC Desire.

Just wondering if its possible to share my internet connection from my laptop to HTC Desire.
Like use my laptop as an access point and share wired connection using Laptop Wi-Fi as i've seen thr are apps for iphone for that.

if your laptop is connected via cable and u have windows (perhaps mac or linux work as well, don know) use ICS http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/

I'm affraid that it is only possible with Windows 7. HTC Desire won't find ad-hoc wifi connection.
If you have Windows 7 installed, try connectify.
Works like charm.
Of course you can try with WiFi router as well.

i wonder if its possible over bluetooth? i dont have wifi so its my only option ;D

if you have a mac, you can do it with the sharing-preferences.

Saw this link...
Use HTC Sync
"After you have installed HTC Sync successfully, please connect the handset to the computer via USB cable then drag the status bar down from the top of the screen. Choose Internet pass-through as the connection type. The handset will now be able to access the internet through the computer's connection."
Hope this helps

chikosphinx said:
Use HTC Sync
"After you have installed HTC Sync successfully, please connect the handset to the computer via USB cable then drag the status bar down from the top of the screen. Choose Internet pass-through as the connection type. The handset will now be able to access the internet through the computer's connection."
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Nope, this only applies to the new Desire HD.
Can't be found in the FAQs for the standard Desire.
:-(
I'm just also looking for a solution to do that but can't find one.

found solution
dude...mine is galaxy ace...i used "mhotspot" software(noo need to install it) to share internet from my laptop over wifi.
its successfull...
you also have video on youtube about "mhotspot" chk itt

Desire to use PC's internet

Is there anyway I can have my desire use my PC's internet when it is connected via usb?
At this stage I dont have wifi at work and cant use that method.
Essentially I want to reverse the direction of tethering when the phone is connected to my computer.
Thanks, Dean

Unfortunately, reverse tethering or connecting the phone through computer's Internet connection (through an ad hoc wifi) is not possible, which is quite annoying. It would be nice if this type of feature, although highly unlikely, could be incorporated an upcoming ROM update for example.

That is annoying, especially since I could do this with my old WM - although thanks for the reply and info.
I wonder if it could be done through an app perhaps.
Cheers, Dean

dwphoto said:
That is annoying, especially since I could do this with my old WM - although thanks for the reply and info.
I wonder if it could be done through an app perhaps.
Cheers, Dean
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Yes it's extremely annoying. I had this on my HD and HD2, but i really don't know why HTC could not incorporate this with the Desire. Afterall, it's a desirable (excuse pun) feature.

it has nothing to do with your phone, since it all depends on the host computer. On mac: you can do it easily by sharing your internet connection in system preferences.

MasDroid said:
Unfortunately, reverse tethering or connecting the phone through computer's Internet connection (through an ad hoc wifi) is not possible, which is quite annoying. It would be nice if this type of feature, although highly unlikely, could be incorporated an upcoming ROM update for example.
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maybe i misunderstood you, but its perfectly possible to make an adhoc wifi network, and connect to the internet on your desire
pina_ said:
it has nothing to do with your phone, since it all depends on the host computer. On mac: you can do it easily by sharing your internet connection in system preferences.
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it has everything to do with your phone. If the phone has no interface for it, it won't work.
Can't say whether it works or not, just saying that it does not depend solely on your computer

ziao said:
maybe i misunderstood you, but its perfectly possible to make an adhoc wifi network, and connect to the internet on your desire
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I dont think so ... I have tried and also read that it doesnot work!

rackspace said:
I dont think so ... I have tried and also read that it doesnot work!
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odd, because i use it nearly everyday

So does this mean I can do it or not ?
Do I need and ad-hoc wifi network - what exactly is this ?
Thanks

dwphoto said:
So does this mean I can do it or not ?
Do I need and ad-hoc wifi network - what exactly is this ?
Thanks
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If your computer has a wifi card (laptops usually do, desktops don't) you can create a local network and connect your desire to it.
No idea if it's possible over a wire

You don't need to create an ad-hoc network, just download connectify and use it as a hotspot on your laptop, then connect the Desire to the hotspot you just created and that's it.

neur0x said:
You don't need to create an ad-hoc network, just download connectify and use it as a hotspot on your laptop, then connect the Desire to the hotspot you just created and that's it.
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Ahh that is handy!
Thanks for the tip

I created an adhoc network following this: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/setup/adhoc.mspx
The host laptop itself can see the adhoc network, but desire cannot.
Any ideas?

Maybe I'm wrong but AFAIK Desire can't 'see' ad-hoc networks, only access points. You can get internet from PC, but only using Connectify under Windows 7 or by using advanced magic under Linux.
Am I right or something has changed lately?
BTW: does anybody share internet from Linux? Any suggestions?

As far as i know, you can only see an ad-hoc network if you have the desire rooted and change some files somewhere (can't remember which ones...), either way the next best thing is to use some kind of software that creates an Wifi Access Point.

I don't get it: why would you want to connect to the internet via your PC instead of directly connecting to your WiFi router ?

Maybe when you only have a LAN-connection?

Or Maybe when your in Work and only have a Lan Setup
and want to access / download things on your phone,
Reverse USB tethering would be AMAZING!!!!!

Flaggie said:
Maybe when you only have a LAN-connection?
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Stupid me, just hadn't realized that still not everyone has a WiFi capable router nowadays...

The problem with ad-hoc internet sharing is that your host PC still needs a WiFi connection. You can't use internet through USB. I've tried it yesterday at work (yes, for the Froyo update ), but no succes.
Having a smartphone in a country with high mobile data costs is like having a Ferrari to do your local grocery shopping Fortunately I'll have unlimited mobile internet next week. So I can finally use my Desire as intended.

mobile hotspot not working

I subscribe to a tethering plan, but mobile hotspot isn't working.
Setting network security to "Open" works, but otherwise, if I use wpa or wpa2, no
client devices (a HTC one S, toshiba laptop running linux) will connect. They
just attempt to connect and give up without any type of diagnostic message.
I really hope I don't have to reset the phone to defaults after setting everything up.

thechocowarrior said:
try calling tmobile to see if its activated.
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I do have hotspot active on the account. As I said, it works If I set the security settings to none.
Also if i put my SIM into my HTC one S, mobile hotspot works there with WPA2.

It's been really iffy for me. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I'll connect with a laptop but have limited connectivity. Not sure if it's something on T-Mobile's end of the phone itself. Barnacle doesn't work great either.

allunix said:
I subscribe to a tethering plan, but mobile hotspot isn't working.
Setting network security to "Open" works, but otherwise, if I use wpa or wpa2, no
client devices (a HTC one S, toshiba laptop running linux) will connect. They
just attempt to connect and give up without any type of diagnostic message.
I really hope I don't have to reset the phone to defaults after setting everything up.
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Did you add the tethered device's (i.e. your laptop) MAC address?
In TMO's stock firmware, you have to add the MAC addresses that are allowed to connect. I did not see anyway to turn this requirement off, nor did I see it documented anywhere.