Dear all, I'm pretty new to this forum and to HTC, TP2 is my first smartphone of the kind as I am coming from the Nokia environment, therefore I need your help.
I've been reading on different forums about various setting tools for tweaking the OS like Advanced Configuration Tool, Rhodium Settings Tool, HD Tweak 0.5.4_English.cab. It seems that all of them require to have the .NetCF previously installed on the TP2. So far so good.
And now the questions for TP2 with WM6.5:
1. Is it safe to install the .NetCF? Any problems reported?
2. Are these tools safe to install? Any problems reported?
3. Which of these tools seems to be more versatile and create less problems?
Currently I am interested in using such a tweaking tool for discontinuing the sms threaded view, but I am sure that there are many other places where I will find it very useful.
Looking forward for your qualified answers. Thanks a lot.
P.S. It is quite confusing to go along tenth of posts where the owner doesn't mention his OS, i.e. whether he refers to wm6.1. or 6.5 when reporting his problems.
You can disable threading through the settings. Start > Settings > System > Text Messageing. Change from threaded to classic.
.NetCF is safe as far as I'm aware and used for quite a few programs, so you will want to install it. As far as those config tools, unless you will be changing registries, tweaking your phone, or modifying the icons it will be trivial to install. Most of the time you will use .CABs that already have everything changed.
burtonsnow8 said:
You can disable threading through the settings. Start > Settings > System > Text Messageing. Change from threaded to classic.
.NetCF is safe as far as I'm aware and used for quite a few programs, so you will want to install it. As far as those config tools, unless you will be changing registries, tweaking your phone, or modifying the icons it will be trivial to install. Most of the time you will use .CABs that already have everything changed.
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Hi burtonsnow8, thank you for the hints about the tweaking tools.
Unfortunately on my wm6.5 there is no Text messaging icon neither in System, nor someplace else. That is why I asked about the tweaking tools. Are you running wm6.1?
axelTP2 said:
Hi burtonsnow8, thank you for the hints about the tweaking tools.
Unfortunately on my wm6.5 there is no Text messaging icon neither in System, nor someplace else. That is why I asked about the tweaking tools. Are you running wm6.1?
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No, WM 6.5 Sense 2.5. I was also able to find it in the settings tab under Other (Miscellaneous settings).
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No, WM 6.5 Sense 2.5. I was also able to find it in the settings tab under Other (Miscellaneous settings).
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Thanks for the details, but of no use for me.
How do I know which Sense version I have? I'm using SPB MobileShell with HTC Sense deactivated. To find the version I have reactivated HTC Sense but at no avail.
Anyway, I did not find Other (Miscellaneous settings) icon in Settings or someplace else.
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Thanks for the details, but of no use for me.
How do I know which Sense version I have? I'm using SPB MobileShell with HTC Sense deactivated. To find the version I have reactivated HTC Sense but at no avail.
Anyway, I did not find Other (Miscellaneous settings) icon in Settings or someplace else.
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Its simple. If you had a quick links tabs on your home screen, you got Sense 2.5. If you dont, - sense 2.1.
go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655..
if link dont show up, go under general and click the first link for cabs,tips, tweaks.. download Advanced Config.. half way down the page. you can click on the messaging and disable it.. also alot of other nice options..
i also have sense turned off.. go to start.. settings.. sytem.. and should have a sms threading icon.. click and change..
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go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655..
if link dont show up, go under general and click the first link for cabs,tips, tweaks.. download Advanced Config.. half way down the page. you can click on the messaging and disable it.. also alot of other nice options..
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Hi again, I installed the Advanced Configuration Tool (after installing first the .NET Compact framework 3.5) and I finally managed to disconnect the sms threaded view. Hope that no other drawbacks will show up. Thanks for the support.
.NET Compact framework 3.5 is something you should always install. It's basically a new "engine" for Windows Mobile, and yes it's from Microsoft and 100% safe. If anything it allows your device to operate a bit smoother. Now, the only thing it doesn't do when installing, is actually activating it over the old .net 2.0.
This is NOT necessary by any means, apps which need 3.5 will work without this, but I do it anyway:
Get a registry editing tool (I use Total Commander myself).
Browse to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\.NETCompactFramework (this is usually the first entry).
When you open this you'll see all the .NET installed versions, change the DWORD value of 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0.
Change the DWORD value of 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1.
Reboot.
You have a faster PPC.
Doing this you disable the old 2.0 framework and enable the new 3.5.
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.NET Compact framework 3.5 is something you should always install. It's basically a new "engine" for Windows Mobile, and yes it's from Microsoft and 100% safe. If anything it allows your device to operate a bit smoother. Now, the only thing it doesn't do when installing, is actually activating it over the old .net 2.0.
This is NOT necessary by any means, apps which need 3.5 will work without this, but I do it anyway:
Get a registry editing tool (I use Total Commander myself).
Browse to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\.NETCompactFramework (this is usually the first entry).
When you open this you'll see all the .NET installed versions, change the DWORD value of 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0.
Change the DWORD value of 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1.
Reboot.
You have a faster PPC.
Doing this you disable the old 2.0 framework and enable the new 3.5.
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Thanks for the advice mhurg!
I had no idea if the upgrade to wm6.5 included the 2.0 framework, certainly it was not shown in the Programs folder or in Settings/System/Remove programs, while after installation the new 3.5 is. So where should I have looked for the 2.0?
Of course I want a faster ppc, but after installing the 3.5 will I get that if performing now the steps you described?
Thanks.
glad to help as im also a newbie
mhurg said:
.NET Compact framework 3.5 is something you should always install. It's basically a new "engine" for Windows Mobile, and yes it's from Microsoft and 100% safe. If anything it allows your device to operate a bit smoother. Now, the only thing it doesn't do when installing, is actually activating it over the old .net 2.0.
This is NOT necessary by any means, apps which need 3.5 will work without this, but I do it anyway:
Get a registry editing tool (I use Total Commander myself).
Browse to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\.NETCompactFramework (this is usually the first entry).
When you open this you'll see all the .NET installed versions, change the DWORD value of 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0.
Change the DWORD value of 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1.
Reboot.
You have a faster PPC.
Doing this you disable the old 2.0 framework and enable the new 3.5.
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I don't understand why the installation of 3.5 did not automatically set this value?
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I don't understand why the installation of 3.5 did not automatically set this value?
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Yeah that is kinda weird. I changed that reg key once I saw that the other day, but the truth is I'd never had any .net-related issues ever since first installing 3.5 back when I first got the phone...I get the feeling that any app or process that needs 3.5 is able to access those dll's even if the switch above isn't made.
Related
Shadowmite's Cingular AT&T Trinity Rom:
Code:
Shadowmite 1.1 Trinity Rom:
Based on the offical release rom and using kernel 1437
Using 4MB Pagepool
Removed:
-Adobe Reader
-Midlet Manager
-IA_Zip
-Streaming Player
-Windows Live
-all the pics/vids/rings other then 2 standards
Changed:
New theme
Full screen commmanger
Date/Time pulled from network on start
Keyboard overlay is the nice one from PDAVIET
Fileexplorer is swapped for one with icon abilities
Added:
+Cingular customizations
+HTCustom 1.7
+SoftKey Control Panel
+HTC Home Plugin
+X-Button
+Batterystatus today plugin
Regedits:
Set for high quality A2DP default (jointstereo, sample rate 48000 and no bitpool)
Set to show network time tab in phone and enable it
Set to enable disconnect and data timer default
Set to hide SIM contacts default
Set to disable security by default
The one bug found so far in this release can be fixed with the X-Button Fix.cab attached below.
http://rapidshare.com/files/44078979/Shadowmite_1.1.rar.html
Thanks!
I always feel like such an outsider way out here in AT&T land! Thanks for the special attention. Downloading now!
Here's where I get to show my stupidity!
All the other ROM I have flashed have come with a utility to run the process. I tried replacing a previous rar file with this one and running the utility I had, but it changed nothing. I have read all the guides, the step by steps, etc, but the info seems to be for full packetsm not how to insert a new rar. I am dense. I am uneducated, I am sorry!
Thanks Shodowmite. It's good to have someone taking care of us ATT dudes.
What is the difference with other ROM ?
Is there something specific for AT&T ?
Sorry if the question is stupid, but I don't know AT&T particularities... ;-)
auramae said:
All the other ROM I have flashed have come with a utility to run the process. I tried replacing a previous rar file with this one and running the utility I had, but it changed nothing. I have read all the guides, the step by steps, etc, but the info seems to be for full packetsm not how to insert a new rar. I am dense. I am uneducated, I am sorry!
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ok, have you flashed hard-spl on your phone before? If not, search for it and flash it! Next, you need winrar or some other file extraction program to extract the rar file (a compressed folder) to get the files out. Then you'll find the installer files inside, you run the exe... Hope this helps.
What is the difference with other ROM ?
Is there something specific for AT&T ?
Sorry if the question is stupid, but I don't know AT&T particularities... ;-)
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Mainly the big thing is this includes by default the sms/mms and data/proxy settings for cingular/att's network. You can use this rom with another carrier, but you'll need to delete those settings or install you own over top of them.
It's the little things
Thanks for the patience with my idiocy. I got WinRar and am flashing now.
auramae said:
Thanks for the patience with my idiocy. I got WinRar and am flashing now.
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We all have to learn at some point, I was no better when I started long ago... Don't worry about it and just learn at your own pace... Hope you like the rom!
I've updated to Shadowmite 1.1, while this is still a "beta" if you will, it's perfectly stable and appears good. Use this one if you want the HTC Home Plugin available... I've also removed windows live and streaming media in this version:
http://rapidshare.com/files/43857196/Shadowmite_1.1_beta_0.rar.html
Thanks. Good job. Downloading.
Ive had it running for a few days now and have noticed marked improvement on battery life. My only challenge has been running out of program memory during IE sessions. I run MemMaid and clean up, then I can go again, but I'm wondering if I have something set wrong.
Hmm, not sure, but I will be releasing another version maybe tomorrow with a increased available program memory using a 4mb pagepool instead of the stock 6mb.
Slightly off topic but is there a way / application to load apps & information in one go after flashing a new rom or is installing all the cabs one by one the only way.
Thanks in advance
S
Well, dunno if it helps much, but my HTCustom app, which is in my roms has a CABS button which allows you to choose a folder and it starts all cabs in it to be installed for you... but it needs human interaction.
In other news, the rom is ready and uploading now...
Version 1.1 is posted, now with 4mb pagepool, should increase your program memory a little and make it perform a little more quickly. I think this is about perfect now, let me know!
Nice ROM, but...
Shadowmite said:
Version 1.1 is posted, now with 4mb pagepool, should increase your program memory a little and make it perform a little more quickly. I think this is about perfect now, let me know!
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Hi, A very nice looking ROM - for which... thanks!
BUT... I keep getting... "An unhandled error has occured in the shell. Attempting to restart the shell [ok]". Soon as I hit the OK, phone reboots.
Now, to help u diagnose... I have installed NOTHING on top of your ROM. Only change I made from stock is I removed your Cingular settings .cab and installed the standard HTC ones for my UK Vodaphone network. (Actually, I was getting this error BEFORE I even removed the Cingular .cab)
Only other thing I can say is, I also unchecked the BatteryStatus plugin from the Today items (as I don't like it or need it... or do I, with this ROM? Maybe I will re-enable it a while...)
That's all. I'll try and stick with this ROM as it's the kind of thing I've been working on for myself... nice, clean and tight... but I've had no time recently to develop ROMs so it's easier for me to run with your work and let you do the head scratching!! Still, a nice effort so far - thanks again!
Moz.
Weird, I've never seen that error. I hate to say it, but could you start with the rom freshly flashed and tell me anything I can do to cause this to occur? Or is it random? I do run the battery status plugin on mine (very useful info, especially the current draw) but I've just removed it to see if I can get the error.
Let me know if you have any procedure I can try to get this error.
Also, you removed the cing.cab and then installed yours and ran it? That should be fine as the only cingular branding is that cab being ran after the welcome.
Fixed it... I think!
Ok, so it seems to be your 1.51 version of the HTC X-Button task manager. I always set the "End progs by tapping X" (not the default tap-and-hold option..) The previously mentioned error only ever happens when I'm tapping X to close down something or other... So, I installed my own .cab of this app (v1.5 build 29196) and all is now fine!
I'll probably do a fresh flash of your Rom tomorrow (its 2am now here) just to be sure, but I think I'm right in saying that your implementation of the x-button app in rom does not give the x-button icon in /start/settings/system... (i now have this by virtue of my reinstalling the app...) I think this icon *is* needed because if you choose to turn off the x-button "shortcut" thingy in the today screen there would otherwise be no way to get back to the x-button option settings.
Hope this helps...
Moz.
a-ha, I got the error now myself, but only if set to close app on clicking the X and furthermore then closing a system app that is running from shell32.exe. For some reason my entries of immune apps aren't being taken as immune. I'll look into this. Good catch!
The program however is in settings, system and is listed as task manager...
Ok, here is the fix, just install this cab (reg entries only) and it'll be working after the next soft reset... I'll figure out why this didn't work from the main hive before the next release.
Just that wanted to ask what ppl have found to be best ways to install all your favourite apps/settings if u are changing roms offten?
I just started recently and have tested some 3 or 4 roms now, but already i find that doing all my customizing and app install is tedious, so i was looking for some method to make it easier.
* i have seen an app that could roll multiple cabs into one - that would make reinstalling all cabs at once after new rom easier, but i cant find the app any more. any ideas on this one?
* backing up rom differences after doing customizations - what app could handle that? propositions?
If we can work some method to do this fast and easy we would get a lot more beta testers hence a lot faster development cycle could be achieved. (=
kakainis said:
Just that wanted to ask what ppl have found to be best ways to install all your favourite apps/settings if u are changing roms offten?
I just started recently and have tested some 3 or 4 roms now, but already i find that doing all my customizing and app install is tedious, so i was looking for some method to make it easier.
* i have seen an app that could roll multiple cabs into one - that would make reinstalling all cabs at once after new rom easier, but i cant find the app any more. any ideas on this one?
* backing up rom differences after doing customizations - what app could handle that? propositions?
If we can work some method to do this fast and easy we would get a lot more beta testers hence a lot faster development cycle could be achieved. (=
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There are no shortcuts my friend. Some apps are installed to main memory and some to storage card, when installng apps there is interaction involved, therefore no universal solution.
Look here - you can integrate the new sys folders (apps) by building your rom in the kitchen (klick it on). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317866
You can do a backup with spb backup. This way you can keep all installed programs and changes. You can restor your backup in different roms too but you have to be aware that this would mess up a few thins.
Tryed this http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/pocketpcinstallationcreator.shtml one out - managet to create install with multiple cab files - so far so good.
But when i installed this merged install on my wm5 emulator it ended up adding links to cab files in programms folder - so much for instalation - useless.
Gues the search goes on.
Make your own extended rom with all your cabs in, this will do the trick. Its quite easy - its not like cooking a rom - i could do a simple tutorial if people wish - it only requires 2 apps
Meschle - yes, please, a tutorial for extrom making would be good, as i am still a bit green to start cooking roms - extrom would be nice way to start i suppose.
meschle said:
Make your own extended rom with all your cabs in, this will do the trick. Its quite easy - its not like cooking a rom - i could do a simple tutorial if people wish - it only requires 2 apps
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I would be very interested in this as well.
Cheers
Ok i'll post something tonight then in the artemis upgrading forum.
I'll keep it simple - the last tutorial posted by someone was way too complex - in the way i describe you'll make your own in 10 minutes
meschle said:
Ok i'll post something tonight then in the artemis upgrading forum.
I'll keep it simple - the last tutorial posted by someone was way too complex - in the way i describe you'll make your own in 10 minutes
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You are one dedicated dude. I like it.
That's the spirit!
meschle said:
Ok i'll post something tonight then in the artemis upgrading forum.
I'll keep it simple - the last tutorial posted by someone was way too complex - in the way i describe you'll make your own in 10 minutes
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That is a super solution! I would love it!
Hey guys one downside to ext rom way - when installing cabs it does not give you option where to install (main memory or storage card) so everything installs to main memory.
This is ok for the programs you normally install there and registry entries. You can make a new cab that installs directly to storage card but that is a different story
OK, now i am a bit confused. As i understand there is a ROM memory on Artemis(128MB) which is divided in multiple areas - IPL1, IPL2, SPL, Splash, Radio, OS, ExtRom.
This ROM memory is writable by way of flashing. There is also storage area(not microSD) in device and operative memory.
So, as i unterstand it, putting apps in ExtROM is a pure saving, cus ur storage memory is not wasted.
Do i understand it correctly?
With the artemis rom, if you omit extended rom in your nbh building you get more storage memory (an addition of roughly the size of the omited ext rom) Likewize if you include extended rom then you loose equivalent memory from storage - so there is no advantage to having apps (i.e executables) in extended rom but for convenience sake to have cabs and settings can be useful. I suggest keeping extended rom small (2mb) so you dont loose much storage space.
Extended rom tutorial added here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327203
well maybe not 10 minutes then
meschle said:
Make your own extended rom with all your cabs in, this will do the trick. Its quite easy - its not like cooking a rom - i could do a simple tutorial if people wish - it only requires 2 apps
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For people who do not have an extended ROM - would'nt it be similar if they kept all the Cabs in 2577 Folder in the Storage Card with Autoexec and config files to execute them sequentially? I remember doing something like this when I was using the XDA IIs - but then now -
In my case, I rarely need to install anything except TomTom and Fullscreenkeyboard from SPB. The rest - I peek into the Cab using WinCE Cab Manager, then export the contents and now have made one big Cab (appx 4MB in size) with all my registry entries, tweaks, executables, shortcuts and copying relevant files into directories.
That way I execute only three cabs after a Hard reset and moreorless everyting is in place.
Yes dev - i used to have that in my orange spv - an autorun.exe in \2577 folder - last time i tried didnt work as i wanted - but i agree worth looking into.
With the ext_rom - the purpose was to add one for those that dont have.
Ok, was trying a quite a few roms that i had today, extracted em, but did not get the extrom.nb )=
Tried to open os.nb with winimage, but it kept saying something about wrong fat etc.
Is the extrom.nb different form os.nb and other *.nb? Why cant winImage open other nb files? Or is there something else i am missing?
Also, tiried SKtracker(didnt find any free app) demo - made snapshots before and after installing apps, then tried to export relevant registery subtrees.
That brings me to that there is no import functionality in phm regedit, but i found other free regedit app called TRE which can import/export edit etc.
Maybe this TRE tool is worth including in roms, if any cookers are reading.
Any better way to hack registery?
Hidden regedit
kakainis said:
That brings me to that there is no import functionality in phm regedit, but i found other free regedit app called TRE which can import/export edit etc.
(...)
Any better way to hack registery?
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I mentioned this on another thread, but I discovered that FdcSoft's understated Task Manager v2.8 has a supperb regedit built in. It does everything that PHM Regedit does, but it can export and import really easily, just like Windows regedit. As meschle pointed out, PHM's is faster, but I still use the bloated Task Manager just because its regedit; and it also has lots of other stuff that comes handy on occasion.
Oh, great! So many stuff to fiddle with in meschle's PremiumPlus rom that I must have missed this one.
Here's my Naked 5 ROM. It includes the following:
Windows Mobile 6 Professional CE OS 5.2.1620 Build 18128.0.4.4
Camera 4.0 build 28276
Arcsoft MMS 4.2
Internet Sharing
AT&T Black Stock Dialpad (3G in next post)
10 Button Black Comm Manager
Comm Manager Vibe Toggle
8525 Keyboard Mapping
PreConfig launches SetHSDPA & SetAccousticParameters.
Points to note:
Button 5 is mapped and ready to use / PTT is disabled
It uses Bepe's Big Storage OS.nb/XIP v3.60 and is based on a stripped version of austinsnyc Lite ROM (with permission - thanks dude!)
It does not launch extended ROM or storage card installations, nor does it include a radio, IPL/SPL, splash screens, extended rom, or anything else. JUST THE OS.
Memory Details:
Storage Free: 80.04
Program Free: 30.49
(Launcher and poutlook.lnk removed from /Windows/Startup - nothing installed, after reset and fully rebooted)
I would recommend you install the .NET Framework after flashing, as I did not include 2.0 or 3.5 in the base and some programs you install / use may require it to work. See the next post for links / downloads.
Why? I wanted a super stripped and fast base to add my cabs to with a crapload of storage. I don't have the time to keep tweaking my custom rom configuration, so this will give me the most flexibility and performance.
Download Links:
ROM/Installer(RUU) Pandora Naked 5:
links pulled - see new post
Kitchen:
links pulled - see new post
More Stuff:
Using KarhU's stats, I put together this build based on performance statistics. It's clean and fast - and should run as fast (if not faster) as the best one's out there. I should have started a new thread - as it's a whole new ball of wax - but it's look and feel is exactly what I started after.
Here's KarhU's great thread on benchmarking. I've learned a lot from his work - it's an excellent asset for tuning
KarhU's Benchmarking Thread
Note too that I didn't include the .rgu files. Please use the kitchen if you want to use the components.
Evolution History
Pandora Naked 1 - 3 was based on the Kitchen version 9.5, but had a problem with PIE speed
Pandora Naked 4U was based on austin's rom release, but setacousticparameters didn't launch correctly and was missing a few notification alarms
Pandora Naked 5: new thread started
Screen Shots:
Additional Cabs for ROM
Here's the .NETFX and SQL CE files:
.NETFX CE 2.0
.NETFX CE 3.5
SqlCE 2.0
SqlCE 3.0 (already in ROM)
Here's some items I've found on the forum, or in the case of the Random Access package, I built a cab for it and included the registry settings to integrate it into the dialer / hard button 113.
Hi, is this a 3.60 ROM, or a newer ROM with bebe's 3.60 mod?
Does it include 3G-Dialer?
PAPPL said:
Hi, is this a 3.60 ROM, or a newer ROM with bebe's 3.60 mod?
Does it include 3G-Dialer?
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It uses bepe's modded 3.60 OS.nb/XIP, and it does not include a 3G dialer.
I retained the HTC3GVT.dll within the rom in case you have your own 3G version you want to use.
*Edit: The dialpad you install needs to have all the components, including the dialpad and smartdial dll's, to use with 3G.
Hi,
I'll give it a try as I'm fed up of several troubles had with cooked in apps-
You advise to install .NET Framework 3.5 cab FIRST? That is, before installing the ROM? I'm surprised but will do as you say.
Thanks.
EDIT: Well, I was unable to install it first, as it says the version is not intended for this device...
Prerna said:
Hi,
You advise to install .NET Framework 3.5 cab FIRST?
Well, I was unable to install it first, as it says the version is not intended for this device...
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The same here, then I took the .wm. version, that works with my Hermes. How did you manage to install it???
I was unable to install it neither before, nor after installing this ROM.
Prerna said:
I was unable to install it neither before, nor after installing this ROM.
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If you use the CAB-file with .wm. in it (NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab), it should work..
You'll find it at ftp://ftp.servage.net/Upload/Micorosft .NET CF 3.5 RTM/CABS/
pietrucci said:
If you use the CAB-file with .wm. in it (NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab), it should work..
You'll find it at ftp://ftp.servage.net/Upload/Micorosft .NET CF 3.5 RTM/CABS/
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Need login account to access this ftp
username : xda
password : xda
mattk_r said:
Why? I wanted a super stripped and fast base to add my cabs to with a crapload of storage. I don't have the time to keep tweaking my custom rom configuration, so this will give me the most flexibility and performance.
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hi Matt,
I wonder: if you install everything afterwards using cabs, will this use more memory or will it be the same as coocked in ROM? In other words: do cooked-in programs use the same memory (size and type) as CAB-installed programs, as far as you know?
pietrucci said:
hi Matt,
I wonder: if you install everything afterwards using cabs, will this use more memory or will it be the same as coocked in ROM? In other words: do cooked-in programs use the same memory (size and type) as CAB-installed programs, as far as you know?
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Sorry for the cab mistake, I'll fix the reference in the first post and make it clearer. I meant to say "after flashing, install the .NET framework before installing any other programs."
As for the memory comparison, the total space consumption is about the same, but you don't have the extra dsm and .rgu files, and the files are installed to the correct target directory, rather than all residing the windows directory - increasing file system performance (at least while browsing the contents of the /Windows directory anyway).
Edit: Updated context of post 1 and redirected link to original thread on .NET topic.
Whoohoo!!! 2 stars! I think that just made my whole day
I truly feel honored and quite special.
'Tis easier to complain than to provide fixes...
Mods - feel free to delete. I'm going back into my cave now.
Frickin about time...awesome rom. sdhc support I hope? So glad you left out netframework 2.0 as I hear installing 3.5 without having 2.0 cooked in prior boosts performance by 20%.
Device just rebooted, time to test =)
Directories seem take forever to load in file explorer.
Edit: Soft-reset seemed to fix that. Now navigating through directories seems much quicker than previous rom. Overall the device seems 2x as fast as my last rom. I had like 5 programs opened and running and still navigating through the start menu and then settings/programs screen was instantaneous. Great frickin rom so far.
hi mattk_r ,
I love this rom!
is there a way to get the kitchen files?
so i can build my own rom based on yours with the buildos tools like in the older pandora version? of course i would share my work to others
PaY87 said:
hi mattk_r ,
I love this rom!
is there a way to get the kitchen files?
so i can build my own rom based on yours with the buildos tools like in the older pandora version? of course i would share my work to others
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Sure, I'll try and get them uploaded today.
I'm also updating post 1 with a link for a working cool 3G dialpad. I had to verify if I could install one
surrept said:
Directories seem take forever to load in file explorer.
Edit: Soft-reset seemed to fix that. Now navigating through directories seems much quicker than previous rom. Overall the device seems 2x as fast as my last rom. I had like 5 programs opened and running and still navigating through the start menu and then settings/programs screen was instantaneous. Great frickin rom so far.
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The only time I've seen this issue with after running PIM Backup and restore my phone settings. After restoring, it's super slow until I reset, then all is fine. It's done it on every rom I've used.
mattk_r said:
The only time I've seen this issue with after running PIM Backup and restore my phone settings. After restoring, it's super slow until I reset, then all is fine. It's done it on every rom I've used.
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Thanks for great ROM, will try it out sometime. PIM backup hogs up cpu after restore, i usually let my phone sit for a while, and then it finishes whatever it does. I used to softreset the phone as soon as i restore, but not anymore. I think it mainly hogs the cpu after call log restore, if there is call logs of 100 or more..
PAPPL said:
Hi, is this a 3.60 ROM, or a newer ROM with bebe's 3.60 mod?
Does it include 3G-Dialer?
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I posted a 3G dialer that works in the first post
While I was browsing by a Russian Forum I discovered a new application for Manila. So, all credit goes for the developer ( I have not changed the name of the original cab), it adds a new tab call Program where you can add up to 30 Program links. Although its intended to work on Manila v 1922 and my version is 20121412 I decided to give it a try. Previously I made a backup of all my files just in case.
Ok, after installed it and soft reset my phone I have seen that all works perfectly so I have thought that maybe it could useful for someone else. In my case, I prefer to have all my useful program at one shot.
I have added 4 pics to you can see how its works on my phone. Currently using Max Manilla v2.5 beta 3.
Rocheau said:
While I was browsing by a Russian Forum I discovered a new application for Manila. So, all credit goes for the developer ( I have not changed the name of the original cab), it adds a new tab call Program where you can add up to 30 Program links. Although its intended to work on Manila v 1922 and my version is 20121412 I decided to give it a try. Previously I made a backup of all my files just in case.
Ok, after installed it and soft reset my phone I have seen that all works perfectly so I have thought that maybe it could useful for someone else. In my case, I prefer to have all my useful program at one shot.
I have added 4 pics to you can see how its works on my phone. Currently using Max Manilla v2.5 beta 3.
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Think you may Have the wrong CAB posted, this is only a clock setup that I can see not programs tab
grzegorz10 said:
Think you may Have the wrong CAB posted, this is only a clock setup that I can see not programs tab
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Ty Fixed now.
Nice.Although with max manila this is a bit useless.
Sense refuses to launch after installing this on miniterros 4.1 rom, manila version 2.5.2012.1225 (Rhodium 2.07 based) with MaxManila 3.0 installed.
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Sense refuses to launch after installing this on miniterros 4.1 rom, manila version 2.5.2012.1225 (Rhodium 2.07 based) with MaxManila 3.0 installed.
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Although its works in my case I can not ensure to work in others, so I encourage you to make a backup prior to install it, just in case.
Rocheau said:
Although its works in my case I can not ensure to work in others, so I encourage you to make a backup prior to install it, just in case.
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It uninstalled fine and Sense works now, just wanted to let people know it seems to be incompatible with the Rhodium 2.07, 2.5.2012.1225 build.
I don`t know why we need to install any cab when the Manila 2.1 Sense have already Program Tab by default?!
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tsalta said:
I don`t know why we need to install any cab when the Manila 2.1 Sense have already Program Tab by default?!
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Isn't it cool to have 2 different program tabs?
Just joking
The CAB is not for manila 2.1 it's for 2.5.1922.
igorok26 said:
Isn't it cool to have 2 different program tabs?
Just joking
The CAB is not for manila 2.1 it's for 2.5.1922.
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and for 2012..
With the manilla version in the NRGZ28 roms, 2012, manilla doesn't load anymore when this cabifile is installed. Anyone has a fix?
Thank you very much for the contribution and sharing.
Function has been tested in several manila ROM with positive results 2.5 It does not work correctly , the only thing he lacked these ROM to use the system in professional roles, it seems that only created for use multimedia messaging and forgetting that many use it in our professions.
This tab is essential to have direct access to all applications without having to navigate home and folders. If you want to use the tab for all these programs limited to using the manila 2.1. It's a shame because the manila 2.5 provides fluidity, improved resources and capabilities that do not have in 2.1.
Do you ever create a ROM purely and exclusively for business use?
Best regards
Manilla 2.0 with weather fix added. You need goto [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila2D\Weather\0]
Edit the Following:
"LocationCode"="YOUR ZIP HERE"
"Location"="THE NAME OF YOUR TOWN"
So that you will have your local weather. You need to update your weather manually from your weather tab, and in about 15mins your home screen will update. If you want I can make a cab file with your weather information so u just need to install it and be good to go, just post your zip and city, or pm me your info and I'll post a cab for you. Here it is let me know what your all think. Special thanks to LMiller for the weather regedit information.
http://hotfile.com/dl/45643327/e89b8d3/23569_New_Manilla.rar.html
You will need your Carrier Cab. If anyone needs a link to these let me know.
You MUST have A Radio Version of 3.42.30+ for this ROM to work
Special thanks goes out to LMiller for his Manilla Oem and his help with getting me started, and to Justpctech from ppckitchens, and Wooptiewoous for some reg tweaks and internet boost.
**I'm Not Responsible for you Device**
Thanks for this new rom!
Can we have some description of what's included and excluded? and some screenshot if possible? (If it's any different from the others.. )
Nice ROM!
Clean, Fast, but a little more info needed from your install
1) Install Carrier Cab
2) Install MortScript 4.2-PPC
3) Install CDMA Weather Fix
4) Reboot
5) Install SMS Timestamp Fix
This is what I had to do for Sprint and I was getting an MSCR error on first boot until I installed Mort Script.
Otherwise, nice rom as far as speed.
Even though it is a 'Lite' rom - I'd definitely recommend adding
Mortscript 4.2
Advanced Config 3.3
PIM Backup - Latest
Please screenshot & info about Ur firmware!
I can give a general info on what's installed.
Office 2010 mobile
.Net framework 3.5
Total Commander
PHM Regedit
Manila 2d Configurator
Internet Sharing
Couple other minor utilities and I think Swype input is installed
Pretty basic Rom, no games included.
Sorry guys, been on travel and thought I'd have time to spend on the rom and everything, but had to work more than expected. This is a pretty basic rom. Some people don't like a loaded rom, and want to be able to customize it by adding what they want, so that's what this rom is for.
The rom includes:
sys 23569
Manilla 2.0.19191432.04
1 Calculator
Total Commander
PHM RegEdit
SpbScreenShot
Net Config
sms Date Fix
Rotating Clock instead of Flip Clock
Iphone type text message
ezinput keyboard
4 Column start menu
Swype keyboard
http://winbreak.com/winmo/voguegoodies/
--Carrier CABs.
I'm looking for an even "lighter" lite ROM - I want to find one with as few programs installed as possible. I can install MyPhone, Marketplace, MyPhone, etc... Total Commander is about all I'd want pre-installed, so I can edit registry settings if need be.
Perhaps I should try cooking one, myself? doubtful.
NuAngel
NuAngel, are u looking for the manilla with the weather on the home screen, or regular manilla, or no manilla?
ski21 said:
NuAngel, are u looking for the manilla with the weather on the home screen, or regular manilla, or no manilla?
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I, myself, am a pure Titanium user, no manila. I keep it simple.
Nu
I'll make one that is completely stripped. The only thing that will be added is the what is needed to make the rom to run.
Here is the link
http://hotfile.com/dl/47507481/0e16095/23569_Barebones.rar.html
Sweet, thanks! I just started tinkering, kicking around the idea of my own build. Having a hard time with it though... I'll get there!
Nu
Need to send a thanks out to LMiller for his carrier provision program. It is awesome. It allows you to pick your carrier once the phone first boots up, very nice, and Thanks LMiller for your support of the vogue.
ski21 said:
Need to send a thanks out to LMiller for his carrier provision program. It is awesome. It allows you to pick your carrier once the phone first boots up, very nice, and Thanks LMiller for your support of the vogue.
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Not a problem! And Glad to help!
Make sure you have the newest version HERE!
Next step will be a full auto-installer program!
If you can get an auto installer that would be awesome. Thanks for the new version.
hello
I like the manila with analog clock the most.Can anybody give me a link to a cab file?
Yes this rom is fast and I like it.But am missing the analog clock.
One annoying problem I am facing though.Everytime I reboot the phone,the mscr error pops up although I have installed tmortscript 4.3 beta 15.Is there any way to get rid of this?
I upgraded to the TP2 now, so my vogue cooking days are over. I'm not sure why that keeps popping up on boot up. I thought it was a mortscript error, but maybe it isn't.
Hi
Ok,Thanks for your great work.But before you leave the vogue forum,will you please give me the link to the cab file of manila version with the analog cloc?
I would, but I only have it in OEM for cooking, not a cab file. Sorry.
I have bumped this because it is one of the best ROMs here, and my personal favorite.
Very stable and looks good. Give it a try.
Mike
Thanks, I appreciate the comment.