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mINIMO BROWSER FROM MOZILA

hI GUYS....
I have tried the new mobnile browser from mozila org its called minimo (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/) its so much good and much beter than opera mini or opera 8.65 or interenet exlorer you sgould try it as well...
i dot know about skyfire because idont live in USA to get a beta testing...
try it

megaxp said:
hI GUYS....
I have tried the new mobnile browser from mozila org its called minimo (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/) its so much good and much beter than opera mini or opera 8.65 or interenet exlorer you sgould try it as well...
i dot know about skyfire because idont live in USA to get a beta testing...
try it
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I wondered if Mozilla would ever come out with a mobile browser! I gotta check it out.

to me really ... it looks dull .... no like cool graphics,,, no 2008 and beyond look... but it has no flash ... no disrespect.. to you or mozilla but i excepted better from them but who knows .... maybe its only a beta or something

it is beta...
but come on what would you expect from an aplication on a mobile phone... what about the graphs of opera or IE are they much better...

hmm how does this differ from the older versions? because ive 'used' them and it was awful.
first time i tried it, it wouldnt even start, second time in interface was so difficult to navigate...

Is there a smartphone version of the browser, too?

es_bih said:
Is there a smartphone version of the browser, too?
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I would assume that they are talking about a smartphone browser! Opera mini is a smartphone browers and we are a forum for smartphones

es_bih said:
Is there a smartphone version of the browser, too?
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Yes it can be used on smartphone as well...

I just installed it twice; it is able to istall on the device, but it is not able to be used. The browser loads up and I cannot navigate with my cursor or joggr pad thorugh the browser.

Clydeisthe**** said:
I would assume that they are talking about a smartphone browser! Opera mini is a smartphone browers and we are a forum for smartphones
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I would assume you try it out first before making comments.
I have downloaded it serveral times. And the Mozilla site and FAQ hints at this being a ppc based browser.

es_bih said:
I would assume you try it out first before making comments.
I have downloaded it serveral times. And the Mozilla site and FAQ hints at this being a ppc based browser.
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i have tried it and is working purfect.... i wouldnt make a post with out a reason... and is very stable as well...

I have too on my dash with 6.1 and am not able to browse or use it. it loads up but i cannot navigate through the browser to select anything. hence why i bothered to ask questions

minimo "works" on Windows Mobile 5 and later devices, both pro and standard. the seemingly un-navigable interface can be operated with buttons, but I can never recall what does what and it always just starts doing weird things, after a lot of struggling.

After reinstalling it about 7 times it finally worked by using the soft buttons to navigate through. However, not stable at all to browse at least on my device.

It takes forever to load and closes when underload. Opera Mini FTW.

kept crashing.

It has promise on a ppc. It looks too much like a touch application. Opera Mobile works much better as a full web browser for the Dash at the moment and Mini for quick viewing.

seems like its causing my phone to crash because its a memory hogger by far.

Never got darn thing to load
After installing Minimo would always hang up. Pity as I love Firefox,(but I love Opera too) On puter I use Opera for all research ect in English and Firefox for Portuguese. My vote is with Opera Mini

[APP] Opera Mini With WVGA Touch HD Support, NEW VERSION

Aloha,
Version Opera Mini v4.2.13216 - 20081124
Found a working Opera Mini WVGA version for the Touch HD!
http://rapidshare.com/files/181737253/Opera_Mini_Final4.2.cab
New version... Opera Mini v4.2.13337 - 20081205
http://rapidshare.com/files/184240714/Opera_Mini_4.2.13337.cab
The following registry settings control the font sizes for apps running in JBed:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apps\Esmertec Java\Device Info\Java Font]
"Size Large"="26"
"Size Medium"="20"
"Size Small"="16"
Still the version i like, fast, clean and small
Have a nice weekend

i'm still annoyed, that firefox isn't available for pda's...
but thx for up

I found the standard 4.2 from mini.opera.com to work o.k. on the Touch HD. What's so special about this one?

billu said:
I found the standard 4.2 from mini.opera.com to work o.k. on the Touch HD. What's so special about this one?
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Nothing i think.... or... just try...

Doesn't the HD already come with the Opera browser?

whereSTheFUhd?! said:
Doesn't the HD already come with the Opera browser?
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yes
But i like the Opera Mini more... (faster, smarter, feeds support with remote sync etc) this version is with bigger Font Size so it's running ok on a 800x400 screen.

So the Opera browser that comes preinstalled on the HD isn't Opera Mini? It's not Opera Mobile, right? I thought the HD utilizes a full HTML browser...

whereSTheFUhd?! said:
So the Opera browser that comes preinstalled on the HD isn't Opera Mini? It's not Opera Mobile, right? I thought the HD utilizes a full HTML browser...
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Nope....
This version has WVGA support... !!!!

Excellent! You've saved my eye sight!!
Thanks.

whereSTheFUhd?! said:
So the Opera browser that comes preinstalled on the HD isn't Opera Mini? It's not Opera Mobile, right? I thought the HD utilizes a full HTML browser...
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the opera 9.5 that comes with the hd is opera mobile, a standalone executable program, which is a full html browser. opera mini is a java applet that runs within a java environment, and used to have limitations. maybe newer versions of opera mini have more functionality??

SatScan said:
Aloha,
Found a working Opera Mini WVGA version for the Touch HD!
http://rapidshare.com/files/181737253/Opera_Mini_Final4.2.cab
Still the version i like, fast, clean and small
Have a nice weekend
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HI,
Please can you attache the cab here? because it is not possible for me to download it from rapidshare.

miannaeemd said:
HI,
Please can you attache the cab here? because it is not possible for me to download it from rapidshare.
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Sorry i can't... rules...

Cool, works well thanks.
Very fast at loading pages, with nice sliding transitions. The rendering's less accurate compared to 'big' Opera though.

Pros / Cons
I use both the browsers, in my view Opera Mini is far superior though, but with faults. Opera Mobile which comes on the HD is good when it works and you have a fast connection (WiFI or strong HSdPA). I believe Opera Mini uses pre rendered pages from Opera so is very fast, yes the transitions are nice. It has speed-links like Opera on your PC and can handle pretty much all pages I've ever tried to load. Opera mobile sometimes messes up pages with forms, for example, using tfl.gov.uk is so fast on opera mini, nearly impossible on opera mobile. File downloads are fine in Opera Mini as it can access the file directories on the HD, the download manager is maybe not as good as on Opera Mobile though, stop-resume etc..
Opera mini doesn't have tabs though.. one page only, a couple of times it can hang, you need to mess around with it so it doesn't ask each time if it is allowed to access the data connection, leave it running in the background and it can struggle to find connection again without restarting Opera Mini. Also you have to load it through JAVA (from a list of other Java programs you might have on your HD, GMAIL etc..) unless anyone knows how to give it it's own direct shortcut?? Also it's not integrated with TF3D like opera mobile.
I use 4.2 direct from Opera, fine but yes the menus are small, but still quite easy to press. Sounds like there is a WVGA version now. Perhaps in the next version (4.3?) this will be the ultimate browser.
I'll carry on with both for now

SatScan said:
Nope....
This version has WVGA support... !!!!
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ummm .. so what dose that mean ..
what is the WVGA and what is the WVGA support ??
<< newbie hehe

Can someone post the information of opera mini installed from this cab ???
Menu > tools > help > about i think...
I got the version 4.2.13337
In fact the WVGA support comes from jbed and not opera mini... i mean this is what i thought.
Ciao
Fred

got version 4.2.13216 here
and it works a treat.

Error message
When launching Opera Mini from Java, I get Error indication on the top bar
This happens when the CAB is installed in either SD card or Storage
What's wrong?
Thanks

matthoy said:
got version 4.2.13216 here
and it works a treat.
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I got this one before i think... but 'im quite sure the WVGA support does not come from opera mini but from the version of jbed you got.. you shoudl have the 20081205.5.1 version or soemthing like that. There was a post here for that version, supporting VGA and WVGA in fact.
Ciao
Fred

When launching Opera Mini from Java, I get Error indication on the top bar
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go to add remove programmes and remove the previous version of OPERA-MINI then install the cab attached on page one of this thread.
it should work nicely then.
re versions :the text size is now spot on. accept no immitations, this is the real internet in your pocket and no mistake. lovely and fast too, loads the times homepage in about 8 seconds compared to opere mobile's 30 seconds.
well handy. it has to be said.

Flash on default Opera Browser?

Hi Guys,
I have a Touch Pro 2 (unlocked and unbranded in UK) which comes with the Opera browser as the default TouchFlo 3D offering.
I'm unsure which version of Opera Mobile this is but it doesn't have the capability of flash like some of the cabs I've seen floating around.
I've tried the 3.1 cab from this forum but this does nothing for Opera for me, Skyfire is an option but tbh looks horrid on the TP2 screen and even the flash 7 cab upgrade for the default IE doesn't seem to work.
Does anybody have any input on how i can get flash working on the default Opera Mobile browser?
(as a side note, I'm a new Windows Mobile user, any absolutely recommended software I should be installing onto my TP2 to get the most of it?)

I've been searching for the last few hours online and it does seem like nobody gives a damn about flash ont he Touch Pro 2, surely that can't be so?
Either its so easy eveybody just assumes we know the trick or it's impossible and common knowledge...

Hey i installed the BETA 9.7? last night and some flash works on that, just not others, apparently something to do with activex being disabled or something, im unsure.
I'd love to get flash working on opera, webpages look awesome on it. I'm not a fan at all of skyfire.

really? and the flash worked?
Please can you link me to the cab you used?

Sorry i didn't explain my post very well. BBC iPlayer worked but a few others didn't.
I just got the BETA from here:
http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/

wow you're right, i had tested before but didn't get good results.
Tries again and youtube worked etc. I think it's a little hit and miss atm.
I also find flash doesn't work if you have turbo mode on and could not get opera widget manager to even install.
Don't suppose you have any idea if it's possible to get the zoom slider to work in the beta?
Many thanks for replying to me.

Does Opera Mini web browser work with tmobile tp2????

Wondering if anyone has been able to install and successfully operate opera mini. This is one of my favorite browsers. When I installed the cab file it didnt load. I then went to the site and tried to download it and it would not open. If anyone has been able to do this or if you are able to find a solution I would be very grateful if you posted a working cab of the browser here in this thread. Thanks in advance!

Yes. it's my browser of choice, although the Jblend java manager sucks. hold on while i find the cab for you
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download the Opera Mini - large fonts (VGA) cab and put on your phone. You don't need the opera mini tweaks.
This will install Jbed java manager & install Opera Mini for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398567

Thanks for the quick response. I went to the link and attempted downloading the cab. The cab file says its 2.90mb but for some reason my tp2 is only dling 1.37mb. So the cab is not working. Anyway you can post the cab file here so I can download it direct? I need another source cause that site isnt cooperating with my phone.

Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!

I have Opera Mobile. I would like Opera Mini. I just cant seem to download the entire cab from that site

unfortunately the cab is too big to upload. download it from that thread on to your computer & then move it to your phone

wow that sucks. i am going to try downloading it with my Kaiser then. My computer is currently down and awaiting repair so I am screwed for the moment. I cant even flash a new rom :-(

dkb218 said:
Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!
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+1 for this!
mini is for smaller and simpler smartphones

dkb218 said:
Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!
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but the zoom bar does not work. Any other way to zoom in?

leckig said:
but the zoom bar does not work. Any other way to zoom in?
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that's why i went with Mini, since the scroll bar doesn't work. Plus i love the syncing bookmarks feature.

I just gave 9.7 beta a try and to be honest I didn' notice a speed boost over the Opera browser that already comes packaged with the tp2. Even with turbo on i noticed nothing. Also its a very glitchy beta version. I miss mini :-( I will probably try the 9.7 once its finished but I still believe mini is the fastest.

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I just gave 9.7 beta a try and to be honest I didn' notice a speed boost over the Opera browser that already comes packaged with the tp2. Even with turbo on i noticed nothing. Also its a very glitchy beta version. I miss mini :-( I will probably try the 9.7 once its finished but I still believe mini is the fastest.
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I agree, the one that is installed is perfectly fine and you dont have to worry about all these bugs

Just wanted to thank you again for posting the cab. I was finally able to download it using internet exploer and its working great. Just my 2 cents, 3g plus opera mini equals fastest mobile internet experience ever only to be rivaled by wifi which is not so mobile.

You're welcome. I hear ya buddy, I like Opera Mini more than any of the other mobile browsers except Safari. I still use it even though I have full 3G & could Opera Mobile, but Mobile just sucks, right along with IE.

xnifex said:
Yes. it's my browser of choice, although the Jblend java manager sucks.
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What are the trade-offs between using Jblend vs. Jbed?
It's been a while since I've used Jbed. I remember it had a background mode, which Jblend still doesn't have. And I'm not crazy about how Jblend throws a wobbly when I change screen orientation.
But, beyond that I don't know how the Jblend version on the TP2 compares with the current Jbed. I haven't found any good comparisons that were less than a year or two old. Even the MIDlet Bible is out of date now.
I don't have a particular attachment to Jblend, but saying it "sucks" isn't a real compelling argument against it. Are there any real performance comparisons you're aware of between Jblend and other JVMs?

I base my statement off the fact that if you open/close the keyboard, the whole thing crashes/resets/whatever... That right there was the deal breaker.

orb3000 said:
+1 for this!
mini is for smaller and simpler smartphones
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I use mini instead of 9.7b w/ turbo.
Why:
Mini is an order of magnitude faster in real life.
9.7b is still buggy as hell, often crashing.
Scrolling on 9.7b is painfully slow and redraws take a long time compared to Mini Opera.
Granted, one must install the above linked JBED+signed Opera Mini+associated quick link to get anywhere near usable installation of Opera Mini, and even after that one has to tweak the font size.
But once this is done, there's no contenst - at least for me. Mini Opera is waaaay faster than Opera 9.7b with turbo enabled.

Faster is not always better
both mini and mobile are great versions of the browser
what I like more from mobile is that is more complete more similar to a laptop browser, yes mini is faster but I still prefer opera mobile!
I have plenty of free memory and RAM to run it smoothly
And let´s wait to have the final stable release! that would be great!
just my opinion,

Mini is not just a little bit faster, its a lot faster. At least for me it is. Sure Mobile has more of a desktop look and feel and offers a more complete webpage experience. Thing is I dont need all the fancy flash animations and things of that nature when I am just trying to quickly check a website like this forum. I have both mini and mobile in case I have a problem with a certain site and even mobile gave me problems which made me resort to IE just to download a cab file.
I do have one problem though. Anyway to make the images larger on mini? I dled the hi res version as suggested and now all pics and certain buttons are very tiny. I tried settings and changed the image quality but this did nothing for the image size. Any solution?

xnifex said:
I base my statement off the fact that if you open/close the keyboard, the whole thing crashes/resets/whatever... That right there was the deal breaker.
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Yeah, that's definitely a nuisance, but so far it hasn't been a deal breaker for me. I use TouchPal as an on-screen keyboard most of the time, although I wouldn't give up the TP2 keyboard...when I feel the need for it, it's great. I still don't know if I'd label Jblend with "sucks", since I don't know how its performance compares overall, but if I changed orientations a lot when browsing and had to keep re-running Opera Mini, I'd be switching JVMs too!

[Q] What is the best browser for HTC S620

I want to have browser for my HTC S620 that support online flash video? I used to use Skyfire but now it does not support WM anymore. I tried Bolt browser but i did not work for me. Is there any different browser that can play online flash video. Opera is great but it does not support online flash video?
Another question: could we install android for HTS S620 and will it works well as WM?
Thank in advance.

condonhan said:
I want to have browser for my HTC S620 that support online flash video? I used to use Skyfire but now it does not support WM anymore. I tried Bolt browser but i did not work for me. Is there any different browser that can play online flash video. Opera is great but it does not support online flash video?
Another question: could we install android for HTS S620 and will it works well as WM?
Thank in advance.
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used UCWEB , you can download it and See Features or details at http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-ucweb.html
android could work in htc Excalibur but unfortunately there are still many shortcomings ( such as wifi and sound are not working )

condonhan said:
I want to have browser for my HTC S620 that support online flash video? I used to use Skyfire but now it does not support WM anymore. I tried Bolt browser but i did not work for me. Is there any different browser that can play online flash video. Opera is great but it does not support online flash video?
Another question: could we install android for HTS S620 and will it works well as WM?
Thank in advance.
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There is NO BROWSER for WM that can view online flash videos except Skyfire. I couldn't get BOLT to work with videos either. I got rid of my Excalibur once I realized MS was abandoning WM6.x and lower and only focusing on WM7. Android 2.2 rocks!, has built-in full adobe flash 10, not flash lite. I watch online videos with stock browser, no skyfire needed.
Hakim Rahman said:
used UCWEB , you can download it and See Features or details at http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-ucweb.html
android could work in htc Excalibur but unfortunately there are still many shortcomings ( such as wifi and sound are not working )
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Read OP. He wants online flash video, UCWEB does not support flash.

oh my god. so sad.

On my Excalibur times last that I used and enjoyed was Opera Mini, I guess this days should be a newer better version of Mini for great Exaclibur

uc search it in google find the web and download~~~

ccppsy said:
uc search it in google find the web and download~~~
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i did not find anything that can replace skyfire

I used Opera Mini 5 so good

condonhan said:
i did not find anything that can replace skyfire
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have y tried skyfire 1.5???

htc s620 said:
have y tried skyfire 1.5???
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Skyfire don't surport for windownmobile now...