Is unbranded and unlocked better ??? what does it really means ? - Desire General

Hello geeks
fresh Question ???
If i buy online unbranded and unlocked Htc desire in UK
the website says :"completely free from network branding. means that the phone will have no network logos on the outside and no additional network software on the inside meaning you get the Desire exactly as HTC made it".
In reality
Does it means that i should have these application below already up and running ?
1.google map navigation (turn by turn)
2.Htc voice to text keyboard with microphone key
3.voice search
Is there difference between UK Rom version and other countries ?
Or ,is it only the networks you locks yourself in who does change software & rom version ?
I hope the fact that if device is unlocked, It helps with problems other users seems to have in UK with voice input and gps .
Any tips mostly appreciated
froggiedroid

1.google map navigation (turn by turn) this is only US to my knowledge, not other countries, .. not very sure hough
2.Htc voice to text keyboard with microphone key No you will not get that ATM, neither locked nor unlocked, .. its not present by default, you can install an app called "Verizon Keyboard 2.1" or something like that and you will get it
3.voice search No, check answer to question 2
Is there difference between UK Rom version and other countries ?
Or ,is it only the networks you locks yourself in who does change software & rom version ? Language might be different, "local languages" and UK gets both Locked devices ad Unlocked devices, not only locked. Unlocked versions get their updates directly from HTC, while locked devices get theirs from their Mobile Operator (depends on which mobile operator you are locked to)

Plus unlocked means you can put any network's sim card in.

There is a way to get the turn by turn navigation it's been posted on here.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654501

Random question. If a device is bought froma network, and then unlocked, do the updates still go through the network because of the ROM it's running, or from HTC because it's then unlocked network wise?

Cr4zyB4st4rd said:
Random question. If a device is bought froma network, and then unlocked, do the updates still go through the network because of the ROM it's running, or from HTC because it's then unlocked network wise?
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i was wondering that yesterday but then someone from here told me that you wont be able to direct htc update unless you debrand your phone which is basically installing generic htc rom onto your device using goldcard

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help to unlock XDA Exec

Following Buzz's installation instuctions I am stuck with these two items.
9. Activate Radio even without Sim in it saying something about no Sim)
15. Flash your original Radio ROM. Do not upgrade the bootloader until you restored an original radio rom.
I think I am just about there with number 15 (with the resource on this site) but can not find anything on #9.
I know a lot of people say that it is already unlocked, but it seems unlocked to a few networks.
Regards
hi, XDA Execs should be unlocked
Does it ask you to enter the unlock code if u enter another sim?
If it doesn't then it's unlocked as far as i know.
What makes you believe that it's locked to a few netwroks, maybe it's because you're trying to find a non-existent umts signal...
Turning the radio on means turning flight mode off (and for the purposes of unlocking you do that without a sim)
Hope that helps.
I take it the UMTS is another name for 3G. My BT account is a normal non 3G account. Is it a case that I need to alter some of the settings, the networks it lists are...
@VF-UK
@ O2-UK
@ Orange
Is ther anything I should try....
umm, what happens if you insert a non-o2 sim into your phone?
If it's continually searching for a signal, it might be trying to search for a dodgy 3G/UMTS signal
in which case try going to phone settings, then in the band tab , select GSM instead of auto or wcdma
In the worse case scenario, if/when you flashed the radio 0.00.00, you might have had some problem with your USB (See the unlocking thread)
Thanks for all your help.
I think I have now got to the bottom of this. The fact is that BT use the VF network. The phone logs onto this, so I guess this is normal. However the signal strength never gets above 2 bars, is this normal?
mrfirepro said:
Thanks for all your help.
I think I have now got to the bottom of this. The fact is that BT use the VF network. The phone logs onto this, so I guess this is normal. However the signal strength never gets above 2 bars, is this normal?
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As far as i knew BT always used o2????
however....you got to upgrade you radio version after unlock is having probs.....
BR
agent003 said:
As far as i knew BT always used o2????
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Not anymore, dude. BT sold BT Cellnet (now O2 plc) a little while ago, but now they have started their own mobile service again (called BT Mobile) BUT piggybacking Vodafone's network.

Help! How to use Dopod P800W with Cingular?

I just bought a Dopod P800W over sea. When I returned the States, I tried my Cingular SIM card but the system told me that it is unable to connet to the network (with a number 31041 (error code ???)). I have tried to choose the provider manually through the network wizard. However, only several providers from some asian contries are avaible in the list. Is there anyone know how to add additional providers to the network wizard to make the phone work in the States? or should I update the ROM... Any comments and suggestions are highly apprecaited. Thank you.
well,
i am usind the dopod rom on my german hero. the network wizard does not list my provider, nevertheless it locks into my provider and displays all services as usual.
this could be due to me having unblocked my device so that all sim / providers can be used. i cannot imagine the network wizard to be solely responsible for you not being able to use your provider!!! once you r thinking about unblocking and paying for it, you might want to consider cid-unlocking it via imei-check.co.uk.
I am having the EXACT same problem. I am an AT&T/Cingular blue customer and cant get my phone to work. I purchased the phone in Thailand. Every other phone I've purchased there are unlocked out of the box so I dont know why this one would be any different. Is it possible that this phone is locked to a small group of asian networks?
If anyone knows how to fix this, it would be appreciated.

HTC HD2 Restricted connection to T-Mobile

I have an unlocked HD2 with an o2 sim. When I try to change GPRS connection settings I cannot select any network other than the original T-Mobile. The auto option is disabled. I'm not fussed about the T-Mobile splash screen but I do need to be able to connect to the o2 network (GRPS). Phone / text is fine. Any suggestions? I would like to avoid flashing the rom if poss. Roger
I have a HD2 locked to T-Mobile, all of the internet settings are obviously pre-configured for that network.
I'm not sure how to change them but I'm pretty certain you can get O2 to send you the GPRS the settings directly to the handset as long as they have the device or they may not support it.
T-Mobile
Unfortunately that isn't possible (HTC & o2 advised). Also there is no option on the connectivity wizard to update the list of telephone providers (that surprised HTC!). Presumably there is a regkey missing / overidden. Any ideas out there?
Rog
i got the same problem. theres no alternative to write a new rom to your hd2.
after that i could easily download the o2 settings...
theres a thread somewhere here to show you how its done
good luck.

[Q] T-Mobile G2 on AU - Vodafone

Hi everyone,
i recently picked up a G2 on a US trip and am currently trying to set it up to work on the AU vodafone network.
i have gone through the sim "unlock" process, so it should be free to accept any sim card. (it also doesnt prompt me for an unlock code anymore, so im assuming it worked)
when i put the vodafone sim card in the phone, it detects the sim (there is the sim folder in the menu, with the vodafone sim options) and when i use "*#*#4636#*#* i see that there is something in the signal strength (-97dBm 8 asu).
BUT
when i goto settings ->wireless & networks -> mobile networks -> network operators i get an error saying "error while searching for networks"
any ideas?
Shouldn't this be in the G2 forum, not the DZ one ?
Thread moved to G2 General.
I am very interested to know how everything works out for you when you get it resolved.
Im moving to Melbourne from San Francisco in 3 weeks and I am on the fence if I should get a Iphone 4 or a HTC g2
*currently own a HTC Evo ..sadly i have to sell it
moodecow said:
Hi everyone,
i recently picked up a G2 on a US trip and am currently trying to set it up to work on the AU vodafone network.
i have gone through the sim "unlock" process, so it should be free to accept any sim card. (it also doesnt prompt me for an unlock code anymore, so im assuming it worked)
when i put the vodafone sim card in the phone, it detects the sim (there is the sim folder in the menu, with the vodafone sim options) and when i use "*#*#4636#*#* i see that there is something in the signal strength (-97dBm 8 asu).
BUT
when i goto settings ->wireless & networks -> mobile networks -> network operators i get an error saying "error while searching for networks"
any ideas?
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welcome to the club my friend
Unfortunately we have the same issue as you but we haven't find a solution yet. So far i have figured out that the phone after unlocking cannot read properly CID and MNCMCC codes from sim.
gpou said:
welcome to the club my friend
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jee... sounds like the club to be in
5 days now i am trying for a solution. So far nothing to say. Just that users with same problem increase day by day. This might be good as htc will have to pay attention.
i dont know if its me, or if anyone else has noticed this, but if you change the band (auto - USA - Euro - Japan - Aus - Aus2)
then go and try to search for networks, the speed that the error comes up is different... its always the same error though....
moodecow said:
i dont know if its me, or if anyone else has noticed this, but if you change the band (auto - USA - Euro - Japan - Aus - Aus2)
then go and try to search for networks, the speed that the error comes up is different... its always the same error though....
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You are right about that.
hi, i guess i need to join this club .. any progress for the solution?
I'm using a G2 on Vodafone AU and having no problems at all ...
If I click search networks it sort of just stops immediately with VodafoneAU down the bottom.
The one issue I'm having is that numbers are formatted for US ... anyone know how I change this?
I'm not sure if this is a real long-shot but I had some strange problems with my old Vodafone sim in a HTC Magic. I ended up just going into a Vodafone store and asking for a new SIM and the problems vanished immediately. They give you a new SIM on the spot free so it may be worth a try?
Is your phone working unlocked with the tmobile sim? If it isn't you're got the problem a lot of people have been having with unlocking the G2.
Otherwise, try rebooting your phone with your AU sim search for networks automatically and enter your APN settings. Alternatively if it doesnt find networks, go to Vodafone to get a new sim card. I'm also on Vodafone and I'm not having any problems with my current Tmobile Phone (Cliq) and G2 coming in the mail
Fixed by rooting and gfree
Hi! I had this exact same problem: unlocked a T-mobile G2 bought in the US so that I could use it on Greece's Vodaphone network. After unlocking and trying to check for networks, it would just say "Error while searching for networks".
Solution: I found the solution here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Subsidy_Unlock.2C_SuperCID.2C_and_Radio_S-OFF which describes an extra security measure that was taken on these phones and why you get this error because of it. The fix, described in detail on that page, involves routing your phone and then running a program to change this security "feature".
I followed the directions on that wiki page and it worked perfectly! It now connects to my vodaphone network here, and can see other networks that are around.
Note that as this is altering the software on your phone, it probably voids any warranty. But, I'll say with my US t-mobile G2 it worked very smoothly.
Hope this gives some insight to any others having this problem!

[Q] SIM Card Recognition Problem

I have a problem and after weeks of trawling the web and forums have not found a solution:
I have rooted HTC Desire formerly with Orange Contact but now unlocked; new sim-only contract with Vodafone. Phone still receives and logs on to Orange network and can do a network search within settings.
However it will not recognise Vodafone SIM; have also tried 3 and Virgin SIMs which are also unrecognised. These alternative SIMs work OK in other phones.
Have tried several ROMs but same on all.
Both Orange and Vodafone don't want to know.
Unlocking code was officially provided by Orange.
In recovery mode list of 4 items includes "SIMLOCK" in blue; could this be significant.
I'm out of options. Can anyone help?

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