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Android Market and kids phones

Kids now have Motorola Defys .....
My question is this - has anyone come across a clever way of limiting how much they spend in the market ?
Ideally id love to 'load credit' into their accounts but it doesnt seem like this is possible.
Looks like my only option is to add my credit card details into their account - now they are pretty trustworthy kids but still .....
Has anyone found a clever way round this ?

americans can use paypal on there market, putting a certain amount in a paypal account would be a perfect way to do this, as it stands on the uk market there is no way to do this, as the only way we can pay is with a card and google checkout.

AndroHero said:
americans can use paypal on there market, putting a certain amount in a paypal account would be a perfect way to do this, as it stands on the uk market there is no way to do this, as the only way we can pay is with a card and google checkout.
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Cheers ... not sure they will manage to wait until Paypal finally makes it to the UK for Google Checkout as they are already asking for the full versions on RoboDefense etc

wilbur-force said:
Cheers ... not sure they will manage to wait until Paypal finally makes it to the UK for Google Checkout as they are already asking for the full versions on RoboDefense etc
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the only other option would be to remove your card from there google account after every purchase, but thats a ball ache

AndroHero said:
the only other option would be to remove your card from there google account after every purchase, but thats a ball ache
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i think thats the option im going to use (or at least the option my wife is insisting i use )
annoying thing is I am now paying for two (more) copies of 'Spaghetti Mashmallows'

wilbur-force said:
i think thats the option im going to use (or at least the option my wife is insisting i use )
annoying thing is I am now paying for two (more) copies of 'Spaghetti Mashmallows'
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do your kids use gmail? if not, you could make a google id, that they could share, then any apps bought, they could both use, rather than paying for two

AndroHero said:
do your kids use gmail? if not, you could make a google id, that they could share, then any apps bought, they could both use, rather than paying for two
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hmmm. thats a sneaky idea ... i have set them up their own gmail ids but ....
cheers

Can you get a debit card for your children? I don't know about UK, but here in Latvia, children from age 8 can get a debit card.
If you manage to get debit cards for your children, you can just load any amount of money on it.
If you can't get a seperate debit card for your children, you can just get a second one for yourself (setting spending limits on it) and give it to your children.

ID Credit Card Hard Back Case Cover SAMSUNG GALAXY S2

Fashionable and high quality for Samsung i9100
​ Special Card Slot design. ​ Easily fits 2 credit card size items of your choice​ Perfectly fits i9100​ Complete access to all control buttons without removing the case​
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ID-Credit-C...=170714225140&ps=63&clkid=4263587187406190815

So if someone is to steal your phone, he gets your credit card in a handy to-go package.
Sweet, want some of that in my life.

good point
but on the other hand becoz u put cc there u gonna be more careful?

Mwinggg said:
good point
but on the other hand becoz u put cc there u gonna be more careful?
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Doesn't matter how careful you are, if you lose it, it's still lost.
Until someone finds it and maxes out your creditcard.
I'd be keen on doing that with my NFC cashcard though, would be good to swipe my phone at stores to pay for stuff.

petsasj said:
So if someone is to steal your phone, he gets your credit card in a handy to-go package.
Sweet, want some of that in my life.
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Special Card Slot design. ​ Easily fits 2 credit card size items of your choice
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I had one of these for my HD2 for years (well, one year..) and I loved it! To answer the question, it did make me feel everything was safer because I'm always aware of where my phone is. I'm tempted to get one for my sgs.
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Nice range of colours for a case and every man to his own but ...Credit cards together with your phone...really? By next year, I predict there will be a side pouch on tablets for a passport, drivers license and credit cards. Imagine forgetting that in the back of a cab!
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just ordered one and waiting for it to arrive...
useful for me as i do not intend to put a credit card in it, but my tap-to-pay flash card when taking public transport
i have the sinking feeling it will not fit the 2000mah battery though

Dang-it someone's nicked my credit cards!!
Better call the company and get them cancelled........
Doh!

knightnz said:
Doesn't matter how careful you are, if you lose it, it's still lost.
Until someone finds it and maxes out your creditcard.
I'd be keen on doing that with my NFC cashcard though, would be good to swipe my phone at stores to pay for stuff.
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That's specifically what this case was designed for. Octopus/Felica/etc. The "credit card" was someone making stuff up to try to sell it in places where contactless cards are not the norm.

evildave_666 said:
That's specifically what this case was designed for. Octopus/Felica/etc. The "credit card" was someone making stuff up to try to sell it in places where contactless cards are not the norm.
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Just to the point like for public transport in Holland and France they use NFC transport payment cards..
Still it does not matter people tend to level the phones, wallets , passport in public places on a daily bases. So stop going on about credit card in this case if you feel to put your credit cards in the so be it...

I have one of these. I use it to keep my business cards in. Also that means if I lose it the person who finds it has my contact details.
people who put credit cards in it though are grade A clowns though.

Could be very useful to put my ID card in that we have to touch against pads to open doors...
On the other hand, I like my phone naked

Thats quite cool, I'm looking for something similar to put my Oyster card in.
oyster card is a rfid card used to get thought barriers on London Underground.
I don't really see a problem with putting a credit card in it,I have more chance of losing the card on its own than loosing the phone with the card in it.
I thought of getting one of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/GADGET-SAMS...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1324822612&sr=1-14 but I hate think having to open it to use the phone would piss me of quickly

check this: http://www.ebay.at/sch/easecase/m.h...&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1313

petsasj said:
So if someone is to steal your phone, he gets your credit card in a handy to-go package.
Sweet, want some of that in my life.
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That's exactly what I came to think of first too !!
Perfect design for pickpockets

i have been searching for something simular while in korea. i found this but it's a bit pricy
http://list.gmarket.com.sg/item/TANGRAM-SMART-CASE-FOR-SAMSUNG/404816819
it has as an extra that u don't have to remove the card in order to take pictures.

On the ebay auction from the OP it says that it might fit the AT&T version. Has anyone tried it on the i777? I'm very curious, this is exactly what I'm looking for. I could completely eliminate my wallet on most days. Its on sale for $2.99 for 2 more days, so I may just try it anyway.

I bought it for $3 to try on my AT&T S2. I'll let you know how it is whenever I get it.

aeron16 said:
just ordered one and waiting for it to arrive...
useful for me as i do not intend to put a credit card in it, but my tap-to-pay flash card when taking public transport
i have the sinking feeling it will not fit the 2000mah battery though
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I'd have to agree, going to get one for my oyster transport card as I always have my phone handy so it makes sense.
Also I've never lost or had my phone stolen in 10 years but I've lost credit cards (and wallets) in the past so for me it's probably a safer option!

[Q]NFC App's

Hi there,
Is there any NFC Apps that i can make use of the NFC hardware, i downloaded a few apps from the play store, but it seems like all they do is read the tags. How about replacing my contactless credit card that my phone can read to use my phone as the card?
Any idas guys

Only people I know that are doing it right now are Orange together with Barclays. The One X isn't supported however as you need their special app which isn't loaded on the phone and doesn't appear on the market.
http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/contactless/overview
Apart from Orange+Barclays, nobody else seems to be doing it. There are plans for a joint NFC wallet system from Orange + Voda + O2 but nothing has happened yet.
http://www.cio.co.uk/news/3345939/orange-o2-voda-mobile-wallet-nfc-plans-go-to-eu-regulators/

thanks for the info, i thought as much but wasnt sure.

alicechong89 said:
I am using the HTC Amaze, NFC tags from buynfctags.com and the NFC Task Launcher App.
With the NFC Task Launcher App, you can program the tags to do one single task or multiple tasks all on 1 sticker. You might need to get NFC Tags that can store more data (like the NFC tags with the NTAG or 1K chip).*
I've tried creating tags to turn my phone to vibrate and turn off wifi and tags to do the opposite. I even have tags to set my alarms and open up my Facebook App.*
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If you want to go a stage further you can combine this with tasker.
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NFC Task Launcher seems a great idea.
But if you use tags in public places (say to automatically connect to a secured customer only network at a coffee shop), I can think of numerous potential security issues.

At the moment the only use for NFC tags for this phone is for your own purposes. So you could stick one near your bed...and in your car and things like that to automate daily tasks.
I am sure in the future you will be able to use it to pay in places like Starbucks or McDonalds, but its not quite there yet.
I think there are also plans to embed NFC tags in posters in train stations etc so you can wave your phone at it, and get some publicity on your phone.
I had some Xperia S tags so I tested the One X with them just to make sure NFC was working.

Here is some more info about reading and writing NFC tags. The purposes are endless. So much cool things you can do!
http://www.nfclabels.com/

pnnorth said:
If you want to go a stage further you can combine this with tasker.
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Has anyone tried to assign a Tasker Task to an NFC using NFC Task Launcher ?
It's not working for me on the One X

wait, Google Wallet won't work? i was ordering this next week with the assumption i could use Wallet and pay for gas somewhere.

i use this app called nfc hunter it is fun https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.hayatoinformation.nfchunter&hl=en

Tiersten said:
Only people I know that are doing it right now are Orange together with Barclays. The One X isn't supported however as you need their special app which isn't loaded on the phone and doesn't appear on the market.
http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-phones/contactless/overview
Apart from Orange+Barclays, nobody else seems to be doing it. There are plans for a joint NFC wallet system from Orange + Voda + O2 but nothing has happened yet.
http://www.cio.co.uk/news/3345939/orange-o2-voda-mobile-wallet-nfc-plans-go-to-eu-regulators/
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O2 wallet will go live in the next couple of weeks. We've been testing it around the offices for months now and all is working perfectly. Some lucky customers got to try it early too

spookamiester said:
O2 wallet will go live in the next couple of weeks. We've been testing it around the offices for months now and all is working perfectly. Some lucky customers got to try it early too
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Are you talking about the NFC-enabled O2 Wallet? If not, O2 Wallet has been available on the Android market for three weeks now

Evangelion01 said:
Are you talking about the NFC-enabled O2 Wallet? If not, O2 Wallet has been available on the Android market for three weeks now
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NFC
In the description it also says "This is just the start, There's still lots more to come soon"

spookamiester said:
NFC
In the description it also says "This is just the start, There's still lots more to come soon"
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That's interesting. If it's working so well, I don't understand why they didn't just release it with NFC. Now I've been left with a negative view of the application, as well as many other people (check all the reviews on the Play Store). As it is, the application doesn't realistically provide better options than Pingit. Launching with NFC would've made O2 the first company to officially enable NFC payments on a Android phone in the UK, but now that's not so sure.
Speaking of which, are you using the HTC One X to test it? Or the Galaxy Nexus? Also, I'm curious about if O2 are using the embedded secure element or the UICC. Did you have to get a new SIM card for NFC payments to work?
Just to confirm, have you tried paying for items outside of your office, in McDonald's or Greggs for example?

jonstatt said:
I am sure in the future you will be able to use it to pay in places like Starbucks or McDonalds, but its not quite there yet.
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Evangelion01 said:
Just to confirm, have you tried paying for items outside of your office, in McDonald's or Greggs for example?
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Actually, the future is almost here. Google Wallet works like a charm outside the office/house
Not only that I paid a McDonalds menu & a pack of cigarettes, but I also did it in Romania, a European underdeveloped country
Head over Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S forums for more "success stories" regarding GW and NFC payments.

pupilov said:
Actually, the future is almost here. Google Wallet works like a charm outside the office/house
Not only that I paid a McDonalds menu & a pack of cigarettes, but I also did it in Romania, a European underdeveloped country
Head over Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S forums for more "success stories" regarding GW and NFC payments.
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Yes, we're aware of that - I've used Google Wallet many times myself. There's no equivalent service in the UK; we were talking about the O2 Wallet.

My bad. I was reading in diagonal

Lol you like glasses? right to read ><'

Some cool ideas:
1) Put a tag in the car mount, match with Tasker to enable Bluetooth for handsfree and disable WiFi without draining battery via location sensing...
Profit!
2) Sew a tag in your jacket pocket. When no tag has been in contact for 10mins consider it stolen and enable Prey
More ideas?

Wallet
Google Wallet is great and with a rooted phone you can definitely use it on almost any device. I have the CDMA (Verizon) Galaxy Nexus and it works just fine. Anywhere they have the quickpass mastercard scanner thing. You see it as a little pad on top of the credit card reader. Anywhere you can scan you credit card without swiping you can use wallet.
You get $10 free from google for using it, the only problem is unless you have a certain mastercard, you have to load up money to a google gift card from another source ahead of time to use wallet.
It's not that big a deal since you can do it from your phone. It has a pin for protection to keep you secure, in case someone scummy enough to steal a phone has the mental capacity to know what google wallet is.
Has anyone used it with the screen off or while the app is closed? I have only used a few times and both times I'd already typed my pin. If you do it with the phone screen on but haven't opened wallet, it asks for pin right?
It's scary the first time you use it, I almost didn't believe it would work, but it DID!

App Refund

Hi all.
I would like to know how to get refund from Windows Phone Marketplace?
I've found some old instructions, but they are not working anymore and I can't find it anywhere on their site.
Please help...

I don't think it's possible. Before buying app, you should saw the warning: something like "That purchase is non-refundable and can not ... blah-blah-blah". By pressing "Buy" button you've agreed with these terms & conditions.

xodeus said:
Hi all.
I would like to know how to get refund from Windows Phone Marketplace?
I've found some old instructions, but they are not working anymore and I can't find it anywhere on their site.
Please help...
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See the Terms of use:
6.9. Refund Policies.
All sales are final and nonrefundable unless otherwise provided by law or by a particular Service offer.

Provided you have extenuating circumstances, a refund is very possible. You'll need to chat with a representative:
https://support.live.com/default.aspx?productkey=oepwp7cf&brand=oepwp7&mkt=en-ww&
For example... I downloaded Bullet Asylum about an hour before it became available in the Marketplace on my phone. I found it on the Marketplace via my web browser and made the purchase, cuz I was so excited to play the game. A week later, I was fiddling around with my phone and looked up BA in the Marketplace. I had the option to buy it, but it wanted to charge my account again. From the game that was already on my phone, it wasn't showing as updatable AND I wasn't able to send a reinstall link from the website. This was forcing me to purchase the game a 2nd time if I wanted to reinstall it... all due to a small glitch.
So, I got on with a rep via chat, explained everything and had the email purchase confirmations to prove it. Rep had to call me to verify my account/identity. Great conversation, understood the problem, and provided a refund.
So... yes... if the circumstances are right, and a refund is warranted, then it can be obtained. Chat support has been very helpful both times I've used them.

Just curious: how much you evaluate your time? Hmm, spending so much time for $0.99 or even $2.99 is too expensive for me, for example

no its not possible......but u can always file a lawsuit....

sirajgoku said:
no its not possible......but u can always file a lawsuit....
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Why do you think that would work?

sermann said:
Why do you think that would work?
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sirajgoku is being facetious.
Like I said... a refund is possible, but pretty much only if MSFT made an error.

Yes a refund is possible! I was refunded already because I was charged twice by the same app I contacted Zune support and they emailed me in my language Portuguese and saw the problem and refunded me! I was refunded too once because I bought one app and now it's not anymore on marketplace its name is perfectscan i reseted my phone and wanted to install the app and couldn't because the app wasn't available anymore.
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So the refunds are only available for errors, not for those who find out that the app doesn't work correctly and just want money back.
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Too bad....it doesn't work like that....
They won't refund you for such a reason...

I purchased a game on my phone, got double billed (billed twice for the same game).
I just fired up a "Zune marketplace Chat support session". Explained what happened, refunded immediately!

xodeus said:
So the refunds are only available for errors, not for those who find out that the app doesn't work correctly and just want money back.
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No unfortunately not. Because, most apps and games come with trial mode. So you could try before you buy. However, for apps that don't offer trials modes, if the reviews and screenshots don't justify value of it, then I don't buy it.

xodeus said:
So the refunds are only available for errors, not for those who find out that the app doesn't work correctly and just want money back.
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I think so!
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[Q] anyone get galaxy perks codes?

Over 48 hours still no play 25$ and no samsung hub 50$. I only received a coupon code for 50% off galaxy accessories. Chatted up samsung reps. They dont know. Said I need open a case or something. Not doing it.
Are you guys getting those emails with codes?
I mean its the default homepage on note 3 and 10.1 2014. Register to receive perks rewards.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2475448

check spam folder
Mine showed to Gmail no issues. Also was able to redeem to a different Gmail account. 5 minutes to get to email.

jackwagon06 said:
Mine showed to Gmail no issues. Also was able to redeem to a different Gmail account. 5 minutes to get to email.
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you registered under two different emails to get double perks??

jmwils3 said:
you registered under two different emails to get double perks??
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Lol, no but I like your thinking! Used my Samsung account to register for perks. When I redeemed the play store, I used a shared account for my gf and I, so we only buy apps once. Also share a calendar that way.

jackwagon06 said:
Lol, no but I like your thinking! Used my Samsung account to register for perks. When I redeemed the play store, I used a shared account for my gf and I, so we only buy apps once. Also share a calendar that way.
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Oh, alright, I guess I got confused by your previous wording.
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jmwils3 said:
Oh, alright, I guess I got confused by your previous wording.
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I just re read my original post. I could see why! Sorry, couple of cocktails and leaving comments while watching football. Still like your thinking though! Not like we didn't pay a premium for this stuff!

Lol, yeah, but they really have no incentive to allow that to work.
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