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TV-Out on Diamond?

g´d evening,
now that there are several dumps of pro roms doing it´s rounds - i was wondering if there are any news about a possible tv-out in the diamond. last time i checked the forum and the news on various sites there was mentioned that they share the same hw (exept for the keyboard). so, is there any chance that we´ll ever be able to hook it up to our tvs?

this model don't have TV-Out, the only connector is mini USBext (= mini usb + stereo headtset )

Yes but the Diamond Pro also have the same connection and has a cable with the s-video out function...

TarKin - interesting proposition. By maybe I think that we won't know until some of our cookers get hold of some HTC touch pro roms. Also I think that it is not a s-video out - only composite video?

Okay if there is a TV out on this Jewel THATS it!!!
Best device ever!
By farrrr

timn2087 said:
TarKin - interesting proposition. By maybe I think that we won't know until some of our cookers get hold of some HTC touch pro roms. Also I think that it is not a s-video out - only composite video?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406943
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410305
It seems that they've already seen it... let's hope...

Charge or synchronise your HTC Touch Diamond simply by placing the device in the cradle connector. You can plug the desktop cradle into a home stereo system via the cradle’s 3.5mm line out connection to enjoy high quality music playback.
Intergrated Spare Battery Charger
It can be charged and synchronised with HTC Touch Diamond AC Adaptor UK TC B100 (not included) or HTC Touch Diamond Data Cable DC U300 (USB/miniUSB) (not included).
This cradle comes with two inserts (the plastic holders) for Touch Diamond and Touch Diamond extended battery and it also supports the inline connection of the following optional accessories:
HTC Touch Diamond Multifunction Audio Cable YC A200
TV Out Cable TC A110 (pre-release)
This is for the desktop cradle for the touch diamond, gotten from expansys. dont know if it has anything to say, but i hope so

yes the cable does Exist for the Diamond, though its not available in the Current ROM hence why the adapter is "pre-release".

@walshieau
do i understand you correctly: *your* opinion is that it´s just a matter of time until we´ll see a working tv-out (rom+cable) or the diamond? is that correct?

TarKin said:
@walshieau
do i understand you correctly: *your* opinion is that it´s just a matter of time until we´ll see a working tv-out (rom+cable) or the diamond? is that correct?
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yes that is correct

Sounds really really interesting...

A TV out on HTC Diamond!! So good!!

It must have some kind ov Video output!
Check this demonstration! His fooling around with a Dimond connected to a TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsM
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Well, when the Gameboy was released, you could play tetris on TVs in the shops. For many years I thought "hey, they might bring out a tv adapter someday". They never did.
But hey, this is 2008 ! everything is possible !

zme999 said:
It must have some kind ov Video output!
Check this demonstration! His fooling around with a Dimond connected to a TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTd3SUPSJsM
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it`s probably not an TV but beamer connected to pc which is connected with diamond through BT or WiFi and some software for presenting mode ?

I already have the mini USB to VGA out connector! Yes, from the HTC Athena. Only if the ROM is ready, id be glad to test it out.
Regards,
Carty..

Nicee...let´s wait for the rom...or a cab to update drivers, theres already diamond pro roms out there..lets see if anyone can find out if it realy have tv-out he only thing missing in this beaty

Ridiculous
How many other threads related to this should be initiated of what we already have?
it does not belong in here (ROM thread)
it belongs in accesories as we talk about a cable yes? ,
When using the Search function "vide out" you'll find plenty of posts - threads already.
Expansys has- had removed the cable (picture) from all their websites for unknown reason otherwise you will see how it look. Easy to copy-cat.
And for God sake yes, spread the following math:
11(or 16pin TBC) USB to Cinch Cable + Rom tweak = Video out
(though this needs to be proven. ... Same as the never found solution for the TytnII drivers)

ceevee369 said:
How many other threads related to this should be initiated of what we already have?
it does not belong in here (ROM thread)
it belongs in accesories as we talk about a cable yes? ,
When using the Search function "vide out" you'll find plenty of posts - threads already.
Expansys has- had removed the cable (picture) from all their websites for unknown reason otherwise you will see how it look. Easy to copy-cat.
And for God sake yes, spread the following math:
11(or 16pin TBC) USB to Cinch Cable + Rom tweak = Video out
(though this needs to be proven. ... Same as the never found solution for the TytnII drivers)
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Hello, this is definitely about ROM thread *we are talking about whether the ROM supports TV out* we are not merely talking about some lead. If the ROM supports TV out, we could either use the lead from the Touch Pro, or we could make our own. Until it comes to the issue of "leads" this will remain a ROM issue. Perhaps when we are discussing leads and adapters we will need to use the "accessories" area, and then you can contribute some helpful infos. cheers

Bullocks. but... whatever you say .. whatever you say.
I won't argue. I am too old for this
Anyone used the search function on "video out" no I guess?

Connect a DVB-T stick?

Hi Everybody,
is it possible to connect a DVB-T stick to an HTC device? With such a stick You could watch TV free of charge (in some countries)!
P.S.: I have a XDA Orbit (=Artemis)

If device have usb host, and you will write driver for it... almost impossible

elektrownik said:
If device have usb host, and you will write driver for it... almost impossible
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Which HTC or other device has usb host?

I'm not sure my ipaq 214 have, htc athena also have, it need full usb host not only otg, htc dream have otg, upcoming htc thot should also have full host, dont know about other devices, maybe diamond or touch hd ?

maybe but its a usb?? i think its you have 35% possililty
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athena is the only wm device from htc I have verified got working usb host
and even with usb host a driver is required
of the makers of the dvb-t stick haven't made one
it could take years for people to reverse engineer
a pc driver to make a wm driver

I believe that if there are phones like this that are DVB-T enabled, it is because there is some sort of driver for it already. I agree that it would not be the exact same as connecting something via USB but at least we already have some sort of driver available for wi-mo devices; it would only need one of the great brains in here with enough interest in developing it further.

Possible with SDIO
wovens said:
I believe that if there are phones like this that are DVB-T enabled, it is because there is some sort of driver for it already. I agree that it would not be the exact same as connecting something via USB but at least we already have some sort of driver available for wi-mo devices; it would only need one of the great brains in here with enough interest in developing it further.
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You can watch TV on your HTC , Instead of buying a USB DVT , You need to buy SDIO DVT ...
Some are available on ebay and other sites
examples :
http://www.eopstech.com/eops/pro3.jsp
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SDIO-TV-Tune...ItemQQimsxZ20090526?IMSfp=TL090526149001r7516

"but at least we already have some sort of driver available for wi-mo devices"
problem is that a driver is very very different depending on what interface
as the driver is talking to the interface not the chip directly
on a pc there is a world of difference between an usbTvcard and a pciTvcards driver

Can Desire work as USB host?

Hi. I'm wondering if desire can work as a USB host like droid does? I cannot post links, but I think you know what I'm talking about. Would be nice to use a real keyboard with it..

I can't add anything useful so this is a shameless bump I'm afraid!
As far as I know though, USB Host is a software or firmware capability, and that for a few years USB hardware has been capable of both (cheaper to make one chip than two).
Would be fantastic to copy images etc off to a portable hard disk.

flatfour said:
As far as I know though, USB Host is a software or firmware capability
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Actually im pretty sure it's different chip. For example, the HTC G1 was possibly the most hevily modified phone in history and they never got usb host on it. The different chipset is called USB OTG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go Ive spent ages looking for datasheets to find out if we have a compatable chipset but could never find any.

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oups, jumped the gun, this is not what it was about, I have no idea if the Desire can do that, I'd be interested if it could though

I think it´s posible...
Don give up yet ppl, our desire it´s perfectly capable usb-otg device. They omitted this feature because of deadlines, desire hd and z have it and htc plans on marketing an dlna adapter in q4 for them.
Notice desire (bravo) capabilities before reaching the market : http://gdgt.com/htc/desire/specs/
and after http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2251&c=htc_desire_htc_bravo . Knowing that I´m searching the web for hacks to enable usb-otg on mi bravo like the guy that did it on his droid. cheers

The following links may help paraipanakos:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702742 - USB Host mode for Desire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694427 -Nexus One USB host driver
Hardware on Desire(Bravo) and Nexus One(Passion) are nearly identical to each other internally.
From what I remember of the Nexus One thread (I owed a N1 before my Desire) you need a special cable (in order to provide power to the secondary device) and special drivers (to provide the host side) but it is possible.
edit: and I forgot, you need to flash the kernel, to use USB host mode, Flash back to use USB slave mode.

Anyone get USB on-the-go (HOST) working

The European SGII does USB hosting with the proper adapter. I ordered this one
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GGBYJ4
nothing happens when I connect my phone to a FAT 32 formatted thumb drive. The thumb drive works in my Acer Iconia.
I wonder if I got a bad adapter or if Sprint disabled On-The-Go.

I can't seem to get it working either. Anyone know a way to enable it. I really wanted this phone for this feature.

from what I've seen on youtube the "host" message pops up as soon as the cable is plugged in. No enabling required. These were all European SGSII though. Samsung's own Epic 4G touch claims it works
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-epic-4g-touch#CLIP

No host for Sprint & TMO
Client only per PDADB.net
AT&T will get the OTG host capabilities.

WHAT! WTF. That means the samsung site is wrong or Sprint actually went out of their way to disable this feature.

There has to be a way to re-enable it like what was done on the HTC HD2. I hope the source proves useful in providing the solution to unlock the feature which is advertised.

The review model AnandTech had appeared to have USB host working ... so if it doesn't work on store models, it should be a firmware issue.
Note that I don't have an E4GT, I'm just thinking with you.
If on the E4GT, you can find "DSLR Controller" in the market, at least the firmware reports that it is supporting USB host ... (if it doesn't, the app will not show up in Market)

Thanks for the issue. How difficult would it be for someone to work on a firmware modification? What does it entail? Where would one start?

crap. that was also one of the main points i decided to upgrade. also i had just moments before ordered that same USB host...

DSLR Controller beta shows up in the market from my phone.

anubis13 said:
DSLR Controller beta shows up in the market from my phone.
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Well then, as I said, the phone is actually reporting to Google that it does support USB host. Maybe they made some other mistake ? The Xoom on Android 3.1 has the same issue, USB host only half works (fixed in 3.2)
EDIT: Also, have you considered bad cables? I have read recently a lot of these OTG cables are pretty crappy and may not work. Note that popping in just the OTG cable without anything attached should already flash a notification at you (though the actual popup only happens when you connect a device)

yes I considered it.
my original post "I wonder if I got a bad adapter or if Sprint disabled On-The-Go."
I have another cable on the way so I will rule it out. It would still be nice to see if only me and JAmerican have this issue, Is it disabled? Did we get broken phones?

anubis13 said:
yes I considered it.
my original post "I wonder if I got a bad adapter or if Sprint disabled On-The-Go."
I have another cable on the way so I will rule it out. It would still be nice to see if only me and JAmerican have this issue, Is it disabled? Did we get broken phones?
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I doubt our phones are defective. I believe Sprint disabled the feature. The cable I have works because I used it on my Treo 800w and had no problems.

Just tried the cable and drive in a E4GT demo in a Sprint store. No host message.
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Go to the AT&T store and see if the infuse has the same problem
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Samsung shows USB Host support here:
(sorry, cant post outside links, yet)
samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-epic-4g-touch#USB
I have five different OTG cables, none work. Must be a firmware issue.
I do have three SGSII OTG cables.
Update: Just emailed Samsung Support... We wait...

If host is disabled (and it looks that way) I doubt there is anything we can do about it. There is NO mention of USB Host on any Sprint website or publication. It does look like the hardware is capable so maybe someone will grab the European drivers and roll them into a flashable update.

-logik- said:
Samsung shows USB Host support here:
(sorry, cant post outside links, yet)
samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-epic-4g-touch#USB
I have five different OTG cables, none work. Must be a firmware issue.
I do have three SGSII OTG cables.
Update: Just emailed Samsung Support... We wait...
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I fear that Samsung will just remove it from their site and deny such a feature exists on the Sprint version.

there could be hope http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265429&page=18

I believe that Sprint/Samsung disabled this feature because when I checked the Samsung website it showed the micro USB to USB cable and from one day to another (the supported devices) changed from the Epic 4G touch to the Att and T-Mobile variants

RJ45 USB will it work ?

Will the USB Connector support a USB RJ45?
I guess a driver will be needed
Reason for asking is because i need a tablet that i can wire up and i want to get the Tab 10.1

I would love to see this work too.

It does not support RJ45 adapter for internet.

usbsea said:
It does not support RJ45 adapter for internet.
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HUMMM, not sure if i am willing to accept that..
It must be a way we can make it happen.

If you need to connect to a RJ45 jack, I suggest getting a "LAN to WiFi Hotspot" Adapter like the LogiLink Wireless LAN Mini AP Router. You can get one for about 22€ and it's a great, little travel device for use in hotels that only offer internet via LAN. For me that's a much more convenient solution than trying to put my tablet on a leash.

gokpog said:
If you need to connect to a RJ45 jack, I suggest getting a "LAN to WiFi Hotspot" Adapter like the LogiLink Wireless LAN Mini AP Router. You can get one for about 22€ and it's a great, little travel device for use in hotels that only offer internet via LAN. For me that's a much more convenient solution than trying to put my tablet on a leash.
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TNX, i guess that is the solution..

I'm not sure that we can dismiss this that easily?
the drivers exist for android as shown for the asus / honeycomb 3.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1274656
I have ordered the USB adapter and am currently looking for one of the listed supported usb to ethernet devices hopefully will be testing this before the end of next week on both domestic and commercial networks.
Fingers Crossed.

Banathe said:
I'm not sure that we can dismiss this that easily?
the drivers exist for android as shown for the asus / honeycomb 3.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1274656
I have ordered the USB adapter and am currently looking for one of the listed supported usb to ethernet devices hopefully will be testing this before the end of next week on both domestic and commercial networks.
Fingers Crossed.
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THis is greate news, please keep this updated on your progress.

hi guys .. I just plugged in my USB adaptor to my RJ45 USB connection ..
the tab registers it as a high powered USB device and unknown ..
sorry doesn't work
bought the RJ45 usb for my series 9 laptop .. one of those must get items this christmas
Also available now is a multi card reader ( CF/SD /micro / MS etc ) ..
nice

gunzo71 said:
hi guys .. I just plugged in my USB adaptor to my RJ45 USB connection ..
the tab registers it as a high powered USB device and unknown ..
sorry doesn't work
bought the RJ45 usb for my series 9 laptop .. one of those must get items this christmas
Also available now is a multi card reader ( CF/SD /micro / MS etc ) ..
nice
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A huge Tnx for this info, now that i know that it can power it and it does "see" the device it is almost so that i have to by this myself and see if i can find a way to get android to see the unknow device for what it is

It will be perfect

No RJ45 Adapter available?
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TEKHD said:
No RJ45 Adapter available?
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Not to my knowledge, so that is why i am thinking if i can take the usb host Adapter and connect a usb RJ45...

Ok I habe two usb to ethernet adapters one shows as a high powered device and the other as an unknown device.
Speaking to my local linux expert he says the kernel I have has some axis drivers built in and I need to either get that exact adapter or a kernel which doesn't have drivers already built in so I can insert my own.
So not lost yet but the battle continues.
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Hey All!!
I'm with you guys on this...I travel a lot and many times am faced with 'Lan Wired' connections in hotels,apartments etc.
readyto help!
peace
Dok

possible solution
xdoktor said:
Hey All!!
I'm with you guys on this...I travel a lot and many times am faced with 'Lan Wired' connections in hotels,apartments etc.
readyto help!
peace
Dok
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These work well for lan connections in hotels:-
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zoom-3G-Wireless-N-Travel-Router/dp/B002SXMH12
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If you're talking about hotels and such (NOT corporate, where WiFi will face policy issues) -
Almost any cheap wifi router will work if you need to bridge a hardwire LAN. Honest, for the cost you're spending on hardware and headache... $25 for a cheap router and you're done.
Just remember - if you plan to actually bridge them (plugging the LAN into the PC ports, NOT the cablemodem port as you'd do at home), remember to turn off the router's DHCP before doing so.

Banathe said:
Ok I habe two usb to ethernet adapters one shows as a high powered device and the other as an unknown device.
Speaking to my local linux expert he says the kernel I have has some axis drivers built in and I need to either get that exact adapter or a kernel which doesn't have drivers already built in so I can insert my own.
So not lost yet but the battle continues.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
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This is what i needed! Ordering USB addon to my Tab and a usb rj45, and when all is received its time for some kernel playing!!
Will keep this tread updated

Final update on this one, we have had it working using the Samsung 30 pin to USB and a Axis USB to ethernet dongle.
This worked on version 3.1 as the driver from the asus transformer thread was written for that kernel when we updated to 3.2 it all went wrong.
Recently i have been doing some work with Samsung mobility and they have escalated this to the researchers in Korea they removed the support on purpose from the standard 3.2 rom as there was a feeling it wasn't required.
However they are currently looking at if they can include it in the ICS release and are also looking at how complicated it is to create us a dock which has a Ethernet port built in given i want to get 250 galaxies working on a wired connection. Obviously if they create it for us they would also release it for general sale in some way which would be a massive win for the galaxy and the potential for use within the IT industry.

@Banathe, can you tell Me how it went with Samsung mobility. I have the same situation. Client wants some about 300 devices, but also wants the ability to access LAN (to configure TV boxes through tablet, and this can be done only by LAN cable). Can You tell me exactly with which tablet and adapter You managed to have a connection and what is a result of Your research?