T-mobile are so silly, I really don't want to be stuck with a 35 quid a month price plan after getting my phone unlocked and sticking my o2 sim in it, so asked if it's ok to downgrade whithin the first 7 days, but belive it or not you cannot downgrade on t-mobile untill your last month so for me that would have been 23 months.
I took out the £35 a month plan but shortly realised it's a bit of a con as the 10 quid a month plan comes with unlimited internet and 1 free booster and you just pay 164.00 for the handset then you can just upgrade as and when you want.
So I now have to return the handset and they send out a new one on the new contract as a brand new line. I was happy to keep the phone and just knock it down and pay the 164 but you can't do it.... oh well
Obviously I had 7 days cooling off period anyway, so they are not charging me for returning the handset and are sending the packaging to post it through the post.
that is ridiculous! At least you'll get what you want. I got the £15 deal and have the unlimited free landline booster
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that is ridiculous! At least you'll get what you want. I got the £15 deal and have the unlimited free landline booster
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Yup i am quite happy to keep my phone and downgrade, am I being unreasonable not wanting to get lumbered with a 35 quid a month contract that cannot be downgraded for 23 months?
I was under the impression I could downgrade if i never used my mins anyway, like on o2
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T-mobile are so silly, I really don't want to be stuck with a 35 quid a month price plan after getting my phone unlocked and sticking my o2 sim in it, so asked if it's ok to downgrade whithin the first 7 days, but belive it or not you cannot downgrade on t-mobile untill your last month so for me that would have been 23 months.
I took out the £35 a month plan but shortly realised it's a bit of a con as the 10 quid a month plan comes with unlimited internet and 1 free booster and you just pay 164.00 for the handset then you can just upgrade as and when you want.
So I now have to return the handset and they send out a new one on the new contract as a brand new line. I was happy to keep the phone and just knock it down and pay the 164 but you can't do it.... oh well
Obviously I had 7 days cooling off period anyway, so they are not charging me for returning the handset and are sending the packaging to post it through the post.
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order over phone the 18 month £15 plan 100mins unlimited txt internet and phone for 164 but say that your friend got offered it for £124 and they should give you the 40quid discount as I and couple of us from here had
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order over phone the 18 month £15 plan 100mins unlimited txt internet and phone for 164 but say that your friend got offered it for £124 and they should give you the 40quid discount as I and couple of us from here had
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ok thx will try it tonight, I don't want to be without my desire so will do it now.
Hang on, you signed up to an expensive contract so you could get an expensive hanset for free.
Then you're surprised to learn they just wont drastically reduce the price? I need whatever you've been smoking!
You entered into a fixed term contract, they're under no obligation to let you downgrade AT ALL. That they will let you in the last month of your deal is nothing more than goodwill.
Some people want the moon on a stick, I swear
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Hang on, you signed up to an expensive contract so you could get an expensive hanset for free.
Then you're surprised to learn they just wont drastically reduce the price? I need whatever you've been smoking!
You entered into a fixed term contract, they're under no obligation to let you downgrade AT ALL. That they will let you in the last month of your deal is nothing more than goodwill.
Some people want the moon on a stick, I swear
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I have consumer rights and I only found out I could not downgrade today, I don't want to be locked into a 23 month contract with no downgrade rights or were you well aware of this new policy abiet a year old that T mobile have started doing.
And while your on your high horse, they are quite happy for me to UPGRADE and take my money when times are good, but unable to downgrade when times are bad, does this seem fair to you?
O2 used to allow you to get a high cost contract and then downgrade straight to a lower tariff, however I think they stopped you doing this about 2 years ago as everyone was doing this and they eventually caught on!
I think you can downgrade your tariff on O2 after 6 months. Not 100% sure though.
Will T-Mobile check the Sim-Lock on your phone when it is returned to them?
Perfectly. Again, fixed term contract. If you didn't read all the small print, you can only really blame yourself.
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Perfectly. Again, fixed term contract. If you didn't read all the small print, you can only really blame yourself.
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The only people to blame here are T-Mobile, I am quite happy to keep the phone and change to another tariff that T mobile offer new customers, it's no different to buying a TV and then seeing it cheaper somewhere else after you have bought it and asking for a refund, or do you want to live in a country that does not offer buyers this protection?
There contracts state you have 7 days to inform us if you are not happy with the phone or contract, I have informed them that i am not happy so have to return the phone and take out "another" contract.
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Section 2 / 2.7 (Page 3) said:
2.7. We don’t have to allow You to change Price Plan.
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Therefore they are totally within their rights to not allow you to change tariff.
I would have thought they would have allowed you to downgrade to the lower tariff if you were willing to part with the £169 that it will cost you? But thats up to them I am afraid.
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http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/resources/sites/TMOBILE/content/live/DOCUMENTS/0/DO117/en_GB/MC25257%20Terms&Conditions56.pdf
Therefore they are totally within their rights to not allow you to change tariff.
I would have thought they would have allowed you to downgrade to the lower tariff if you were willing to part with the £169 that it will cost you? But thats up to them I am afraid.
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I know they are within their rights lol but I have to return my phone and order a brand new one even though I want to pay the 170 quid up front.
That's the silly part.
Ok my order has been accepted I didn't bother haggling with price just went for the £10.00 a month deal £164 up front, for the sake of a manager to just drop the price plan all this could have been avoided, and yes i know i should have ordered the correct deal in the first place, but if we all had hindsight then there would be no need for the 7 day cooling of period.
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I think you can downgrade your tariff on O2 after 6 months. Not 100% sure though.
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If you Pay Monthly, you can choose a lower tariff nine months after you joined us – or after you last upgraded your phone. You can increase your tariff any time the first 30 days of connection.
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@Rusty
Sorry but your assumptions are incorrect not all Networks operate the same way at all for instance i got my TG01 for free on a 18month £35pm contract which included free Internet and Unlimited landline calls. After 6 months Orange Best Plan option kicks in so i down graded to a £20pm plan with £5 for the Internet pack and still have the Unlimited Landline calls for free. Which saves me £120 over the last year of the contract so it has reduced the overall cost of ownership and running my TG01. It's one of the things that makes Orange a better choice for me as i hate paying for my phones especially on a 18 month contract and the ability to down grade my plan after 6 months saves me money i have more incoming calls then out going and never use all my minutes.
VodaFone on the other hand only let you downgrade your plan after 12 months and it appears T-Mobile in the last month only so as long as you know this you can make the right cost choice for your needs. As always there are so many variables as to what makes the best deal and as individuals what suits some of us won't all but choice is good for the consumer.
Marc
I was informed by T-Mobile that their policy states that after half of the full contract term has passed, I'm allowed to downgrade my contract.. But when you downgrade, you're only allowed to go one price plan down. So from £35 to £30, etc.
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I was informed by T-Mobile that their policy states that after half of the full contract term has passed, I'm allowed to downgrade my contract.. But when you downgrade, you're only allowed to go one price plan down. So from £35 to £30, etc.
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thats what happend with o2 when i wanted downgrade couple months ago. only 1 plan down
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T-mobile are so silly, I really don't want to be stuck with a 35 quid a month price plan after getting my phone unlocked and sticking my o2 sim in it, so asked if it's ok to downgrade whithin the first 7 days, but belive it or not you cannot downgrade on t-mobile untill your last month so for me that would have been 23 months.
I took out the £35 a month plan but shortly realised it's a bit of a con as the 10 quid a month plan comes with unlimited internet and 1 free booster and you just pay 164.00 for the handset then you can just upgrade as and when you want.
So I now have to return the handset and they send out a new one on the new contract as a brand new line. I was happy to keep the phone and just knock it down and pay the 164 but you can't do it.... oh well
Obviously I had 7 days cooling off period anyway, so they are not charging me for returning the handset and are sending the packaging to post it through the post.
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Ronny...you had me worried for a minute. I thought that something was wrong with the phone
Sounds like a bit of a whinge to me......It's a contract, that is up to your to read all the fine print. Assumptions from other carriers is just stupid. Neway you should be happy they are at least changing it for you.
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Ronny...you had me worried for a minute. I thought that something was wrong with the phone
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Nothing wrong with the phone, love it still
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I couldn’t be more chuffed with my Desire and the deal I got with T-mobile UK as a new customer.
However I just tried to upgrade my mums contract as she is well overdue for a new contract and phone... near 30 or so months when she had a 18 month contract.
Anyway. I call them up from her phone to get the desire. But I found myself faced with unhelpful and indifferent retention blokes who 1 issues insanely bad deals and 2 wouldn’t make any deals...
When I got my phone I managed to get the phone at 89 quid on a 20 quid a month 24 month contract. 600 minutes 500 texts 3gb data and a booster.
I was expecting to at least be able to get something similar for my mum... ohhhh but no.
They wanted to give the phone for free but only on a 35 quid a month contract. I managed to talk them down to a 30 quid a month contract.
But if I wanted the contract like mine at 20 quid a month they wanted to charge 380 pounds for the phone.
380... that’s 19 quid shy of the full retail price of the phone.
They were in no way willing to budge. I tried to explain to them how odd it was that I was able to get such a great deal and my mum not. And that the price they where asking was just short of full retail price. But they didn’t care.
I remember when the desire came out some one here managed to get the phone for free on 15 quid a month with a similar contract to what I had...
Gone are those days. T-mobile seem to be back at screwing over there current customers. Which was why I left them in the first place years ago.
Anyone else had any trouble?
Anyone know ways of getting around this? I rather keep my mum with T-mobile as she needs the good dataplan…
Nutsy
Did you call the upgrade team? They are usually pretty useless. Call (if you already didnt) T-mobile choose the option you are 'leaving them'. You will then be in touch with people who normally can do decent deals as they dont want you (or your mom) to leave.
I think thats who the retension team is... at least thats what they called themselves when i asked them
Well i just tried to cancel... it went to the same retentions department as before i even spoke to the same person i spoke to before...
This time there now denying the 380 pound figure... But are willing to sell the phone at 240 quid on the 20 a month contract and 140 on the 25...
I honestly think there just randomly choosing numbers.
Anyway got a PAC code. We might still take up the 30 quid a month deal but one of the main reason for the 20 deal was we wanted to bring our costs down.
Ill just have to look around for a bit… Got 30 days to do it.
Go to a store - they have commission to earn.
Do you have any rival deals you can quote to them? When I was renewing my contract I got the best deal by quoting various deals I'd seen online and I ended up getting the phone for free and the price plan a couple of quid cheaper a month than anywhere else I'd seen. Didn't have to press to hard.
where you a returning customer?
Also what deals have you found online... Orange done seem to have the phone yet. And Voda dont seem to have any good deals and not selling the phone for under 30 quid a month.
I had exactly the same experience with them!
They just weren't willing to budge at all and would only offer me the phone on a £30 or more contract so I cancelled and have ordered from elsewhere!
Phil
Upgrade through mobilephonesdirect or mobiles.co.uk, they offer great deals like 20 quid a month etc etc, that is what I did
Yeah I had Vodafone 18month contract in its last month with my Touch HD. Tried to get upgrade with them for the desire and got very similar results as NutsyUK. So decided to get it from www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk on T-mobile for £25 p/m on a 24 month contract.
The best part was I got 900 mins, unlimited texts, and full unrestricted web n walk data package as my booster. I would just take out a new contract with www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk and just port your number over
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Well i just tried to cancel... it went to the same retentions department as before i even spoke to the same person i spoke to before...
This time there now denying the 380 pound figure... But are willing to sell the phone at 240 quid on the 20 a month contract and 140 on the 25...
I honestly think there just randomly choosing numbers.
Anyway got a PAC code. We might still take up the 30 quid a month deal but one of the main reason for the 20 deal was we wanted to bring our costs down.
Ill just have to look around for a bit… Got 30 days to do it.
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Vodafone were asking for £100 with £25 per month, or £50 with £30 per month when I tried my local shop!
It's their iPhone. Which makes it very difficult to get a good deal.
Personally I'd never sign up for 24 months and pay a fee towards handset.
You're better off actually signing up to voda for an iPhone, or t mobiles next best phone free on 18 month. Put it straight on ebay and buy sim free desire. You might even make a profit
I'd rather stick with tmobile than go to voda... vodas has terrible data... 500mb a month thats it...
tmobiles data with androids is 3gb... i think there standerd data plan thats given to retailers is 1gb
You can get it from somewhere like Mobile Phones Direct on an TMobile contract.
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Vodafone were asking for £100 with £25 per month, or £50 with £30 per month when I tried my local shop!
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That sucks, I got offered £20 per month and no charge for the phone.
Have just got Vodafone deal (did the deal over the phone - this is a discounted £35 / month tariff) - New Customer - Free HTC Desire, 18 month contract, £25.50 / month for 15 months, £35 / month for 3 x months, 600 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited data (500 mb - but apparently not chargeable unless Gbs over your allowance regularly).
2 x weeks ago (over phone) was offered T-Mobile deal, new customer, 18 month contract, £20 / month, £107 for HTC Desire, 300 minutes, 300 texts, unlimited internet plus free Bolton: i.e. choice of free t mobile calls, landline or unlimited texts.
If T-mobile are charging such a ridiculous amount for the phone now either wait until the prices settle down again (maybe they have hiked the price due to the shortages? Or go elsewhere.
Clearly they are not offering a competitive deal.
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/HTC/b509/n443/p31043.aspx
it sounds like T-Mobile have changed in the last month.
on 30th March i just called the upgrade team and got the phone for £40 on a £15 a month contract.
Going back to the OP's comments, as you said it was an upgrade, it would also depend on you Mothers history with T-mobile. How much she spent a month, how much her previous handset was worth and of course T-mobile offset the cost of this in with the monthly payment. Add on to this (not that I am suggesting anything) her credit worthiness, has she always paid on time, ever missed a payment, is she a high user - in that does she generate profit for T-mobile.
No operator gives handsets away for free, especially when so new and in such demand from those willing to pay. They also tier the pricing dependant on the customers usage and how much they will rake back in, length of contract etc. It is never so cut and dried between 2 different users as they both have different profiles from the operators perspective.
She was with them for 26 months on a 18 month contract. She always paid on time. I think there was one time a credit card wasnt updated so one payment was missed but that was quickly fixed...
she had a diamond before.
I would say this would be a fair a normal upgrade... but it seems this no desire for contracts under 30 quid is a new thing. blanket across the board...
Or is it just me?
Now don't get me wrong, as I've been waiting for a decent upgrade option since my trusty HD2 and would love the phone on the release date because my HD2 is very close to dying and my stupid new workplace haven't sorted me out with a phone despite me being there for nearly 2 months now (a massive and very well-known global IT company, believe it or not!).
But when I called Vodafone, my current network (yes, that's right "network", not "carrier" - I'm not American!) to try to get the phone on a cheaper deal (read "free" for £30 a month for 18 months), they said they couldn't be flexible on any of the tariffs on pre-orders. So I have the wait. I don't mind, but what really winds me up is the angst in this forum: "oh no, mine won't be delivered til 11th April!" Yes? And?
Well if you pre ordered a phone which costs about 800 pound in total on an average contract and the release day is the 5th and some are delievering then, and others on the 11th. I can see their point.
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I think if the phone had already been released and you had to wait 6 days for it then they might have a point. For pre-orders, not so much as HTC have, as far as I'm aware, never specified a release date.
I take it you're one of those who has to wait?
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Or is it just me?
Now don't get me wrong, as I've been waiting for a decent upgrade option since my trusty HD2 and would love the phone on the release date because my HD2 is very close to dying and my stupid new workplace haven't sorted me out with a phone despite me being there for nearly 2 months now (a massive and very well-known global IT company, believe it or not!).
But when I called Vodafone, my current network (yes, that's right "network", not "carrier" - I'm not American!) to try to get the phone on a cheaper deal (read "free" for £30 a month for 18 months), they said they couldn't be flexible on any of the tariffs on pre-orders. So I have the wait. I don't mind, but what really winds me up is the angst in this forum: "oh no, mine won't be delivered til 11th April!" Yes? And?
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Yes they can, but you need to speak to retentions and not upgrades
Just do what I do and go through phones4u or similar 3rd party company for your upgrade. Orange, who I've been with for 6 years will not budge on upgrades for me, despite me being on their highest banding, so I upgrade thru phones4u now who will sell you the contract and (usually unlocked and unbranded phone) for a lot less than the stupidly strict network providers. I got the One X on an 18 month contract, 600 minutes, 3000 texts and 750mb internet for only 28.50 a month and they have thrown in the medialink for free too. Give them a try
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Or is it just me?
Now don't get me wrong, as I've been waiting for a decent upgrade option since my trusty HD2 and would love the phone on the release date because my HD2 is very close to dying and my stupid new workplace haven't sorted me out with a phone despite me being there for nearly 2 months now (a massive and very well-known global IT company, believe it or not!).
But when I called Vodafone, my current network (yes, that's right "network", not "carrier" - I'm not American!) to try to get the phone on a cheaper deal (read "free" for £30 a month for 18 months), they said they couldn't be flexible on any of the tariffs on pre-orders. So I have the wait. I don't mind, but what really winds me up is the angst in this forum: "oh no, mine won't be delivered til 11th April!" Yes? And?
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same problem... whats really bugs me is that I don't know when or how much will it be when it hits the markets in my country
I`ll be a month behind everyone....due an upgrade on May 6th.At least by then the devs should be in full swing
tough question, simple answer.. will get my hands on it, if I get it a bit lower than the MRP, however can't wait 6 months for the price to come down, then something newer will come and I won't be ever able to buy a phone in this cycle.
Btw, I will also upgrade from HD2,
I will be one week behind than everyone else since im getting paid next week i can't wait any longer..i will be making a black&cyan theme for sense 4.0 when i get it
Well the One X should be out by mid-april in my country, but I will wait till second week of May because it's my birthday and because htc phone prices usually decrease about 100-150$ after 3 weeks
I'm waiting for t mobile UK to start displaying contracts so think it will be a couple of days after release before I take the plunge,but as my contract is up on the 31st I should be in a decent position to keep my current contract sign up for another 18 months and get the phone for free
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This One is going to be a worthy replacement for my HD2!
im counting the days....
If you pre-order you get the Media Link Box for free and the plan I've pre-ordered on makes it a steal. 12 Month contract with Vodafone with HTC One X black, HTC Media Link, 300mins, 500mb, unlimited texts total cost £542. Sure as hell beats paying £490 outright from Amazon which was what I was going to do!
Sadly Voda/Orange/O2 were out of the question for me as unlimited data is a necessity.
I was severely hamstrung with 500mb of data on my Dz on Vodafone, and since moving to three two weeks ago I've downloaded over 2gb data.
In terms of pre-ordering, the trick is to get your employer to pay for your phone, then it doesnt matter how much the contract costs
My upgrade date is April 15th, so I've got to wait until release!
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Sadly Voda/Orange/O2 were out of the question for me as unlimited data is a necessity.
I was severely hamstrung with 500mb of data on my Dz on Vodafone, and since moving to three two weeks ago I've downloaded over 2gb data.
In terms of pre-ordering, the trick is to get your employer to pay for your phone, then it doesnt matter how much the contract costs
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I haven't paid for a phone for about 10 years and I've had about 10 in that time!
Unfortunately, the One X isn't likely to be one of the phones on the list of devices my employer will issue. I asked for an HTC and they offered me a Wildfire S or a Desire S!! I declined and they've given me an SGS2 instead. Fortunately, they will allow me to get my own device and stick their sim in it
i'm probably waiting until 4/25, but only so i don't spend all of my money. i want so many records i've just bought around 30, so that cost a big chunk. i will manage a few weeks without a phone. i put my ATT account on vacation. they said it would cost $10 for the time it was suspended, then resume normal billing when i call to have it restored. i didn't say it was because i sold my GS2, though. i said i was going out of the country.
I am with Sprint under my dads account. It is a family plan with my sister, my dad and I. Heres my question, I just want to know if I can order safely from Wirefly without any fuse, in other words, they will send me my phone without attempting to change our plan, rise our bill or anything like that. I just want to upgrade my phone to the Galaxy Nexus with the same plan intact, nothing change. The reason I am asking this is because I once tried to order a phone from Amazon (at the same price of a normal upgrade), and they wanted me to get a brand new number and plan.
Thanks for your help.
P.S. I cant believe they are selling this phone for 50 bucks. I am awed ._.
Anyone?
it is only that price with a contract. they will make you sign up for 2yr sprint contract before selling you the phone.
yup confirmed
$49.99
with a new Sprint account
look right under the price tag in small writing
Darunion said:
it is only that price with a contract. they will make you sign up for 2yr sprint contract before selling you the phone.
yup confirmed
$49.99
with a new Sprint account
look right under the price tag in small writing
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Wow, I dont know how I missed that. lol
Thank you.
DO NOT buy from wirefly. There are too many problems with that company to list them all here.
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I am with Sprint under my dads account. It is a family plan with my sister, my dad and I. Heres my question, I just want to know if I can order safely from Wirefly without any fuse, in other words, they will send me my phone without attempting to change our plan, rise our bill or anything like that. I just want to upgrade my phone to the Galaxy Nexus with the same plan intact, nothing change. The reason I am asking this is because I once tried to order a phone from Amazon (at the same price of a normal upgrade), and they wanted me to get a brand new number and plan.
Thanks for your help.
P.S. I cant believe they are selling this phone for 50 bucks. I am awed ._.
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Hello latindor17: Wirefly can certainly upgrade your phone without changing your plan or the amount you pay every month (provided you’re not on an old grandfathered rate plan the carrier no longer offers, in which case you may be asked to choose a current rate plan – but if that were the case, Wirefly would always contact you for approval before proceeding with your order). Darunion is correct that you will need you renew your contract for 2 years in order to be eligible for the price on the website, but you do not need to get a new number, you may keep your existing number without a problem. There are no other hidden fees or charges, as long as you maintain your account in good standing (and don’t downgrade your plan) within 6 months of your activation date. For more information on this, please see http://www.wirefly.com/about/low-phone-prices/?referringdomain=wirefly&oflag=specialoffer.
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DO NOT buy from wirefly. There are too many problems with that company to list them all here.
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What? I used Wirefly to get a Galaxy SIII as an upgrade on my T-Mobile account with absolutely no issues. They simply checked to see if I was eligible for an upgrade and once they verified that I was I purchased a Galaxy SIII as an upgrade for $200. They did not screw with my plan at all.
It was much cheaper than going through T-Mobile directly ($379 for the phone at the time) and they shipped the phone extremely fast. I'd use them again in a heartbeat.
** I should mention that I have since sold the Galaxy SIII and reverted back to the GNex because it just wasn't the same. But that's neither here nor there. :highfive:
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Hello latindor17: Wirefly can certainly upgrade your phone without changing your plan or the amount you pay every month (provided you’re not on an old grandfathered rate plan the carrier no longer offers, in which case you may be asked to choose a current rate plan – but if that were the case, Wirefly would always contact you for approval before proceeding with your order). Darunion is correct that you will need you renew your contract for 2 years in order to be eligible for the price on the website, but you do not need to get a new number, you may keep your existing number without a problem. There are no other hidden fees or charges, as long as you maintain your account in good standing (and don’t downgrade your plan) within 6 months of your activation date. For more information on this, please see http://www.wirefly.com/about/low-phone-prices/?referringdomain=wirefly&oflag=specialoffer.
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What Ms. Kim said here is exactly why you SHOULDN'T go with wirefly or any other similar service. They make you sign an additional contract, apparently in this case for 6 months, that has NOTHING to do with Sprint. Well, technically it does since it stipulates you must stay with Sprint for 6 months, but this contract isn't with Sprint.
So, if you move, find a better deal, find a reason to terminate without an ETF, etc., you're still on the hook with this company for 6 months. If you like buying through a 3rd party, I think Best Buy and Radioshak both still don't require this anti-consumer tactic.
Wow. I didn't realize that when I did it. Luckily if you plan on sticking with your current contract for more than 6 months this won't effect you (like most people). But it would be quite annoying if you did need to switch carriers quicker than expected.
Good to know.
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What Ms. Kim said here is exactly why you SHOULDN'T go with wirefly or any other similar service. They make you sign an additional contract, apparently in this case for 6 months, that has NOTHING to do with Sprint. Well, technically it does since it stipulates you must stay with Sprint for 6 months, but this contract isn't with Sprint.
So, if you move, find a better deal, find a reason to terminate without an ETF, etc., you're still on the hook with this company for 6 months. If you like buying through a 3rd party, I think Best Buy and Radioshak both still don't require this anti-consumer tactic.
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what reason could you find to terminate without an ETF though? as far as i know death is the only exception..and sometimes that doesnt even work
the stipulation (as i understand it) is that you just have to hold your end of the bargain for 6 months (something you already agreed to with your carrier by signing a 2 year anyway)...the reason for the 6 months is because thats the contract they have with the carriers..they recruit or keep customers for carriers and pass on the commission to us (which is why they can sell the phones cheaper)
its not like they are going to kill you if you break the wirefly contract..you just end up paying retail for the phone...as long as you are certain about the phone and plan that you are purchasing i dont see a problem...if you have buyers remorse or you don't do your homework and want to cut the cord..then yeah...you're gonna pay for it..thats kinda what happens when you break any contract (cell phone or otherwise)
i have been researching this company as well...reading customer comments and their fine print..im thinking about upgrading to the Note 2 through them...$300 as opposed to $420 with tmobile ($370 AFTER mail in rebate)
if kim from wirefly is still reading this...the phone is listed as $300 (for upgrades)...do you know what the end cost is gonna be? is it $300? or is there gonna be upgrade fees and tax and my first born?
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if kim from wirefly is still reading this...the phone is listed as $300 (for upgrades)...do you know what the end cost is gonna be? is it $300? or is there gonna be upgrade fees and tax and my first born?
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I'm pretty sure no additional tax is charged on top of the listed price. I think T-Mobile charged me an upgrade fee but instantly credited it back to me on my next bill.
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What Ms. Kim said here is exactly why you SHOULDN'T go with wirefly or any other similar service. They make you sign an additional contract, apparently in this case for 6 months, that has NOTHING to do with Sprint. Well, technically it does since it stipulates you must stay with Sprint for 6 months, but this contract isn't with Sprint.
So, if you move, find a better deal, find a reason to terminate without an ETF, etc., you're still on the hook with this company for 6 months. If you like buying through a 3rd party, I think Best Buy and Radioshak both still don't require this anti-consumer tactic.
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Hello Morphling,
Our 181 day rule is based on a contractual agreement that we have with the carriers. We don't get compensated for a sale from the carrier until after this time frame has been met. All 3rd party dealers have a stipulation period that customers must abide by even though the terms and conditions can vary from company to company, this is an industry standard. Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.
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what reason could you find to terminate without an ETF though? as far as i know death is the only exception..and sometimes that doesnt even work
the stipulation (as i understand it) is that you just have to hold your end of the bargain for 6 months (something you already agreed to with your carrier by signing a 2 year anyway)...the reason for the 6 months is because thats the contract they have with the carriers..they recruit or keep customers for carriers and pass on the commission to us (which is why they can sell the phones cheaper)
its not like they are going to kill you if you break the wirefly contract..you just end up paying retail for the phone...as long as you are certain about the phone and plan that you are purchasing i dont see a problem...if you have buyers remorse or you don't do your homework and want to cut the cord..then yeah...you're gonna pay for it..thats kinda what happens when you break any contract (cell phone or otherwise)
i have been researching this company as well...reading customer comments and their fine print..im thinking about upgrading to the Note 2 through them...$300 as opposed to $420 with tmobile ($370 AFTER mail in rebate)
if kim from wirefly is still reading this...the phone is listed as $300 (for upgrades)...do you know what the end cost is gonna be? is it $300? or is there gonna be upgrade fees and tax and my first born?
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Hello jdiddy_ub,
The carrier will charge you an upgrade fee but this is only paid once on the first billing cycle following the upgrade. The taxes for the service is assessed by the carrier and varies depending on where you live. If you are keeping the same rate plan then your taxes should not be any different then what you are currently paying now. Let me know if I can answer any further questions.
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Hello Morphling,
Our 181 day rule is based on a contractual agreement that we have with the carriers. We don't get compensated for a sale from the carrier until after this time frame has been met. All 3rd party dealers have a stipulation period that customers must abide by even though the terms and conditions can vary from company to company, this is an industry standard. Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.
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Hello jdiddy_ub,
The carrier will charge you an upgrade fee but this is only paid once on the first billing cycle following the upgrade. The taxes for the service is assessed by the carrier and varies depending on where you live. If you are keeping the same rate plan then your taxes should not be any different then what you are currently paying now. Let me know if I can answer any further questions.
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I'm not asking about the tax for service.. i am asking about tax from the cost of the phone
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Buy it from costco wireless. $39.99 upgrade. No extra etf and they refund the $36 upgrafe fee. 90 day exchange. Dont even think you have to be a member.
ATT will begin offering wireless customers the option to forgo contracts and get more frequent upgrades if they pay full price for their smartphones, allowing the carrier to cut back on the profit-sapping cost of subsidizing devices like the iPhone.
ATT is beginning a program later this month for subscribers to buy their phones using a monthly financing plan that will add payments to their monthly bills. After a year, they will be allowed to trade in the device for a new one. Under the new option, called AT&T Next, there are no service contracts other than the financing commitment. It is available for tablets as well.
So for a $650/20 months we get almost $35 per month added to your bill. what do you guys think: is it worth it?
BTW unlimited data plans are still allowed on Next.
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ATT will begin offering wireless customers the option to forgo contracts and get more frequent upgrades if they pay full price for their smartphones, allowing the carrier to cut back on the profit-sapping cost of subsidizing devices like the iPhone.
ATT is beginning a program later this month for subscribers to buy their phones using a monthly financing plan that will add payments to their monthly bills. After a year, they will be allowed to trade in the device for a new one. Under the new option, called AT&T Next, there are no service contracts other than the financing commitment. It is available for tablets as well.
So for a $650/20 months we get almost $35 per month added to your bill. what do you guys think: is it worth it?
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Hmm. I think I'd go for it.
I don't particularly care to wait two years for a new phone. I get tired of phones after 8 months.
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I've never had to wait 2 years for a phone upgrade; usually, after about 12 months, I have been able to call and ask nicely for an upgrade, so, I would NEVER go for this...ATT gets more than enough of our hard earned cash, why give them more???
So when you first buy a phone...you are paying a subsidized price, and that amount is "hidden" in your monthly fee...now they want you to pay another fee...then get a phone...then pay more on top of that?? Makes no sense to me. I'd rather buy a new phone outright on a no-interest credit card or something..shoot maybe even just save up for it. I've even wheeled and dealed my phones on Craigslist...Is business really that bad that carriers are trying to nickel and dime people for everything? 20 months was fine. Gave you time to make a choice on what you wanted instead of paying an arm and a leg when you get that itch to change. Oh well, to each their own. I definitely won't be taking advantage of this new option.
I guess ATT (and eventually Verizon) feel the need to come up with some new razzle dazzle to make people think they are getting something similar to what t-mobile is offering. You are correct, when you do the math, this new "special" program is nothing more than another way for ATT to take money out of your pocket.
Carriers ALWAYS try and nickle and dime the public out of every possible dollar they can, and most of these new "special" deals, aren't special for anyone except ATT executives, and stock holders...
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ATT will begin offering wireless customers the option to forgo contracts and get more frequent upgrades if they pay full price for their smartphones, allowing the carrier to cut back on the profit-sapping cost of subsidizing devices like the iPhone.
ATT is beginning a program later this month for subscribers to buy their phones using a monthly financing plan that will add payments to their monthly bills. After a year, they will be allowed to trade in the device for a new one. Under the new option, called AT&T Next, there are no service contracts other than the financing commitment. It is available for tablets as well.
So for a $650/20 months we get almost $35 per month added to your bill. what do you guys think: is it worth it?
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you paid $199 for note 2, one year later you sell the phone for $300 (min). then you spend $350 on another phone. total is 199+350=550
with new plan. one year you pay 650/20*12=390, second year you pay 390. total 780.
you know what you should do.
This is a bit tricky.
Say for the Note 2 you paid 199 + locked into a contract. The price isn't actually subsidized into the cost of your monthly contract, rather the cost is the ASSURANCE that you'll be locked into a contract for 2 years. The amount of your monthly bill can go up/down obviously, and you won't find a line on your bill stating "monthly phone subsidized fee".
My take on this new program is that there will be a line listing the cost of your phone bundled into your monthly fee, without a contract locking you in for 2 years.
Difference is that if you're insane, you can get a different phone 12 months down the line, and split that new cost into your existing monthly bill. This allows you to theoretically have the cost of the new phone added onto the bill in addition to the cost of the old phone.
This isn't much of a deal if you're getting a high end smartphone at 6-700 bucks, but a pretty good deal if it's a lower end or less expensive phone.
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you paid $199 for note 2, one year later you sell the phone for $300 (min). then you spend $350 on another phone. total is 199+350=550
with new plan. one year you pay 650/20*12=390, second year you pay 390. total 780.
you know what you should do.
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This here^^^^^^^
This is what AT&T stated:
The monthly installments will run between $15 and $50, depending on the phone, and are a function of evenly dividing the full retail price of the phone by 20 months.
By way of example, AT&T says, a Samsung Galaxy S4 in Next will cost $32 a month on top of your monthly service plan. You'll be able to trade it in and upgrade after 12 payments, or pay it off in full after 20 months. That's based on the full $639 purchase price of a 16GB model.
Just my 2¢®
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you paid $199 for note 2, one year later you sell the phone for $300 (min). then you spend $350 on another phone. total is 199+350=550
with new plan. one year you pay 650/20*12=390, second year you pay 390. total 780.
you know what you should do.
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Slight correction. Second year you'd be paying 260, not 390. The split is over 20 months remember.
apallohadas said:
Slight correction. Second year you'd be paying 260, not 390. The split is over 20 months remember.
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if you get a new phone, the 20 months term will start over again. my calculation is based on the assumption that we buy new phone every year.
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if you get a new phone, the 20 months term will start over again. my calculation is based on the assumption that we buy new phone every year.
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I'm just guessing here, but I think that if you buy another phone right at the first 12 month point, they'll stack that with (on top of) the existing cost of the old phone. So you'll be paying monthly + old phone + new phone, instead of month + new phone.
If they give you a buyout amount to totally pay off the old phone, that might work better.
Another thing that we haven't really considered are the extra fee (if any) revolving around the extended cost of the phone. Is there a service fee for this 'loan'? I mean, that's what it is after all. It's like a mortgage for your phone.
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I'm just guessing here, but I think that if you buy another phone right at the first 12 month point, they'll stack that with (on top of) the existing cost of the old phone. So you'll be paying monthly + old phone + new phone, instead of month + new phone.
If they give you a buyout amount to totally pay off the old phone, that might work better.
Another thing that we haven't really considered are the extra fee (if any) revolving around the extended cost of the phone. Is there a service fee for this 'loan'? I mean, that's what it is after all. It's like a mortgage for your phone.
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the new plan, my understanding is that when we have a new phone with this plan, we only need to pay for monthly phone payment, after one year, we can choose either keep the phone and pay for the remaining 8 months (after that the phone is yours), or, upgrade to a new phone and pay for the new phone's monthly payment again (20 months term reset).
so basically every 12 months you can upgrade with no cost, by keeping paying 650/20 each months. convenient for lazy people i think.
monthly service bill won't be affected (call+text+data).
yeah, there might be service fee for every upgrade too.
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the new plan, my understanding is that when we have a new phone with this plan, we only need to pay for monthly phone payment, after one year, we can choose either keep the phone and pay for the remaining 8 months (after that the phone is yours), or, upgrade to a new phone and pay for the new phone's monthly payment again (20 months term reset).
so basically every 12 months you can upgrade with no cost, by keeping paying 650/20 each months. convenient for lazy people i think.
monthly service bill won't be affected (call+text+data).
yeah, there might be service fee for every upgrade too.
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I thought they said no upgrade fee.
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Bsmith0731 said:
I get tired of phones after 8 months.
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Who doesn't man?
wase4711 said:
I've never had to wait 2 years for a phone upgrade; usually, after about 12 months, I have been able to call and ask nicely for an upgrade, so, I would NEVER go for this...ATT gets more than enough of our hard earned cash, why give them more???
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which department do you ask? and do you get any discounts on top of that?
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Who doesn't man?
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I'll say.
I was getting tired of my note but I switched over to an aosp based rom and my excitement has been renewed, for how long, who knows.
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vista1984 said:
the new plan, my understanding is that when we have a new phone with this plan, we only need to pay for monthly phone payment, after one year, we can choose either keep the phone and pay for the remaining 8 months (after that the phone is yours), or, upgrade to a new phone and pay for the new phone's monthly payment again (20 months term reset).
so basically every 12 months you can upgrade with no cost, by keeping paying 650/20 each months. convenient for lazy people i think.
monthly service bill won't be affected (call+text+data).
yeah, there might be service fee for every upgrade too.
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Well when you upgrade your line you have to do one of two things: either you trade in your old phone (I am assuming it should be in good condition otherwise they will charge you for it) or you can keep your phone and pay the balance left to pay it off.
ATT is marketing the deal like its doing us a favor saying they got rid of the $35 upgrade fee, yet they will charge us the same amount each month for the next 20.
I wonder how many will fall for this?
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which department do you ask? and do you get any discounts on top of that?
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I ask for retention, since they can make decisions no other department can...
the last 2 early upgrades I got were for 2 Gnote2's; one was about 4 months ago, and then the other one was about 1 month ago; I was less than 12 months in on both of these phone contracts when I called.
The first one I got for 299, less 6 months of unlimited texting credit(180 dollars, so the net was 119. They waived the activation fee on that one...
The most recent one,was 199, about a month ago, and they did charge me activation, but I called when the bill came and asked them to waive it, and they did!
The only take away from this is that you need to ask for an early upgrade, and if you are a good customer,(I have 3 lines,) ALWAYS pay your bill on time, and dont ask for all sorts of crazy stuff, there is a very good chance you can get an upgrade after 8-12 months...the "sales" department, usually cant do these kinds of things, thats why you have to get to retention....
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I'm just guessing here, but I think that if you buy another phone right at the first 12 month point, they'll stack that with (on top of) the existing cost of the old phone. So you'll be paying monthly + old phone + new phone, instead of month + new phone.
If they give you a buyout amount to totally pay off the old phone, that might work better.
Another thing that we haven't really considered are the extra fee (if any) revolving around the extended cost of the phone. Is there a service fee for this 'loan'? I mean, that's what it is after all. It's like a mortgage for your phone.
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Correction: when you get a new phone after 12 months, you trade in old phone buy new phone and start over. The old phone bill is canceled. With Att Next, you no longer own the phone, it's a "lease phone". The tricky part is now rooting and unlocked bootloader will be difficult decisions because the phone must be in good satisfactory condition on all levels
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After giving my T-Mobile Note 4 to my brother for his birthday, I tried to see if I could get a deal from Ma Bell themselves. I was successfully. They price matched the T-Mobile variant at $749.46. I did AT&T next at 12 month of $41.30, and received a credit on my bill for $77. Its not the greatest deal, but hey its better than nothing, right? Not too mention I plan on trading the device in after 12 months, so I will only have paid $418.
Just thought I'd share. Give it a shot, you have nothing to loose.
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After giving my T-Mobile Note 4 to my brother for his birthday, I tried to see if I could get a deal from Ma Bell themselves. I was successfully. They price matched the T-Mobile variant at $749.46. I did AT&T next at 12 month of $41.30, and received a credit on my bill for $77. Its not the greatest deal, but hey its better than nothing, right? Not too mention I plan on trading the device in after 12 months, so I will only have paid $418.
Just thought I'd share. Give it a shot, you have nothing to loose.
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Yep, I've gotten 3 free phones ($600), 4 contracts given an early upgrade by up to 6 months, and probably $1000 in bill discounts by calling them over the last 7 years being polite, nice, and just asking them if they can help with stuff. Not happy with the whole locked bootloader garbage but they've always hooked me up on that end. Just call and tell them what's up and ask them if they think this is possible because you like AT&T and at least want to give them a chance to keep a customer, unless you owe them money or have burned them in the past most of the time they'll do their best to give you what you want. Just be polite, funny, and nice is they key. I called once and talked to a lady from an Atlanta AT&T call center and we ended up talking about how amazing her fried chicken recipe was and how her kids/grand kids loved it and I got a free phone ($200 waved) and 5 months early on my upgrade. It's crazy but it works lol. Good luck
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Yep, I've gotten 3 free phones ($600), 4 contracts given an early upgrade by up to 6 months, and probably $1000 in bill discounts by calling them over the last 7 years being polite, nice, and just asking them if they can help with stuff. Not happy with the whole locked bootloader garbage but they've always hooked me up on that end. Just call and tell them what's up and ask them if they think this is possible because you like AT&T and at least want to give them a chance to keep a customer, unless you owe them money or have burned them in the past most of the time they'll do their best to give you what you want. Just be polite, funny, and nice is they key. I called once and talked to a lady from an Atlanta AT&T call center and we ended up talking about how amazing her fried chicken recipe was and how her kids/grand kids loved it and I got a free phone ($200 waved) and 5 months early on my upgrade. It's crazy but it works lol. Good luck
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Exactly. I was very polite and thanked him. I mentioned how my bill has never been late and is always paid in full. I was actually quite lucky because they didn't have to do that.
While I'm all down for unlocked bootloaders and root, the truth is, I tinker with my phone too much then. Its gets tiring having to switch roms every week. So I think I'm just gonna do my own thing and call it a day. While I fully support those going to the T-Mobile route, I just found that too much of a hassle. That and very rude T-Mobile staff.
Not only have I had retention credit me to help out a bit. I had them upgrade my wifes line a year early and next day her a new 32gb white s4 before our honey moon last year for free.
I see Sprint has the Edge for $840 as opposed to ATT's whopping $945! Going to call Retentions later and see if they will price match. Thanks for the heads up OP.
Let us know if you were able to get one out of contract for less than full price! I tried 3 times already on phone and chat; retention was ready to let me cancel rather than give me anything to stay. I have always been extremely nice on the phone and usually get deals... but am not getting anything to lower the price of this phone.
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Let us know if you were able to get one out of contract for less than full price! I tried 3 times already on phone and chat; retention was ready to let me cancel rather than give me anything to stay. I have always been extremely nice on the phone and usually get deals... but am not getting anything to lower the price of this phone.
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Technically this one out of contract as it was on AT&T Next's program. Instead of paying $825.99, they gave it to me for $749.46 (T-Mobile's note 4 price).
MattMJB0188 said:
After giving my T-Mobile Note 4 to my brother for his birthday, I tried to see if I could get a deal from Ma Bell themselves. I was successfully. They price matched the T-Mobile variant at $749.46. I did AT&T next at 12 month of $41.30, and received a credit on my bill for $77. Its not the greatest deal, but hey its better than nothing, right? Not too mention I plan on trading the device in after 12 months, so I will only have paid $418.
Just thought I'd share. Give it a shot, you have nothing to loose.
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Just called ATT and they gave me a $100 credit. Which is cool since the difference between the Sprint Note Edge and the ATT one is $105.00. So I guess that's the way they price match since they can't actually change the price of the phone?
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Just called ATT and they gave me a $100 credit. Which is cool since the difference between the Sprint Note Edge and the ATT one is $105.00. So I guess that's the way they price match since they can't actually change the price of the phone?
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Are you also on the Next plan? I have found that CSR shut down as soon as I tell them I want to buy it outright and not on Next.
Ghetto Geeksta said:
Just called ATT and they gave me a $100 credit. Which is cool since the difference between the Sprint Note Edge and the ATT one is $105.00. So I guess that's the way they price match since they can't actually change the price of the phone?
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Probably, either way you made out good with what you wanted one way or another ?
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Are you also on the Next plan? I have found that CSR shut down as soon as I tell them I want to buy it outright and not on Next.
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Yes im on the Next plan, if you're buying it outright you should be able to find a good deal online. You may want to try back after you buy your phone.
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Yes im on the Next plan, if you're buying it outright you should be able to find a good deal online. You may want to try back after you buy your phone.
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Do you all know if you on Next plan and you payed off your phone and you want to get new device you have to trade phone you just payed off. Loose , loose on your end. Better is to buy phone some where else for lower price because on Next plan you will end up paying full price on phone and do not get phone. Info: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/next.html#fbid=CUe4oUP4J4k
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Do you all know if you on Next plan and you payed off your phone and you want to get new device you have to trade phone you just payed off. Loose , loose on your end. Better is to buy phone some where else for lower price because on Next plan you will end up paying full price on phone and do not get phone. Info: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/next.html#fbid=CUe4oUP4J4k
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You only trade in your phone if you want a new phone at 12 months. If you keep it 20 (making payments) the phone is yours to do whatever with. Also with my $25 a line discount it only ends up being $19 a month for my note 4 so I end up paying $380 over 20 months to own it free and clear vs $750 buying it outright.
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You only trade in your phone if you want a new phone at 12 months. If you keep it 20 (making payments) the phone is yours to do whatever with. Also with my $25 a line discount it only ends up being $19 a month for my note 4 so I end up paying $380 over 20 months to own it free and clear vs $750 buying it outright.
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How did you ends up paying $19 a month ? if you choose 18 months Next plan payment you ends up paying $34.42 x 18 = $619 plus you need to trade your phone. $25 line discount is for access not for a phone. If you agree to 2-years contract you pay $15+$25(discount) =$40. I and my wife (accountant) calculate all options and best way is to get phone on some other side then on Next plan. You will ends up paying full price on phone whatever plan and phone you choose from At&t..
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How did you ends up paying $19 a month ? if you choose 18 months Next plan payment you ends up paying $34.42 x 18 = $619 plus you need to trade your phone. $25 line discount is for access not for a phone. If you agree to 2-years contract you pay $15+$25(discount) =$40. I and my wife (accountant) calculate all options and best way is to get phone on some other side then on Next plan. You will ends up paying full price on phone whatever plan and phone you choose from At&t..
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I completely agree with you. Next is AT&T's way of charging you the same but making you feel better OR to get you to change phones all the time and give them the old phone back which they can sell for more. The best way is to get the phone out of contract and pay $15 a month under the "bring your own device" discount. My goal is to get the phone out of contract for less than the crazy $825.99 that AT&T is asking for.
Sample Calculation For All Options:
Note 4 out of contract ($825.99) + 2-yr of service with bring your own device discount ($15 x 24 mo) = $1185.99
Note 4 with Next 12 ($41.30 x 20 mo) + 2-yr of service with Next discount ($15 x 24 mo) = $1185.99
Note 4 with 2-yr contract ($299.99) + 2-yr of service with no discount ($40 x 24 mo) = $1259.99
Sample Calculation for Next 12 to make yourself feel better but not really:
Note 4 with Next 12 and service discount ($16.30 x 20 mo) + 2-yr of service with Next discount ($40 x 24 mo) = $1185.99
Let's also consider that you turn in your phone at 12 months like AT&T wants you to; you end up paying $495.60 out of pocket and end up with nothing. AT&T, on the other hand, has to pay for the rest of the bill for the device, which is $330.39. If they could sell the Note 4 in a year for more than $330.39, which of course they could, then they are making even more money of you. You may wish to argue that under the "make yourself feel better" option, you're only paying $16.30 a month so after one year you pay much less than $495.60; great deal, right? No, you just paid the rest under the service plan. AT&T will gladly take your money.
Not sure where your calculations came from but why are you adding the discount to the bill instead of subtracting. I pay 41.30 for next 12 on my note 4 but with my 25off discount i pay 16 a month for my phone. 16x12=192. After 12 months i would only need to pay 192 and then i can turn my phone in and get a new one with no penalties and if i keepy my phone i end up paying 320. The access discount is only appied when you are on the next plan or buy outright so it needs to be considered in your calculations because if you sign a contract your bill jumps +25. For 2 note 4s on next 12 plus 15gb family share with unlimited calling and text i only pay 180 a month. Just playing with the at&t cart i added 2 smartphones to the cart with 10gb share and on contract and the price is 180. I pay exactly what new customers pay but with the option to upgrade early.
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Not sure where your calculations came from but why are you adding the discount to the bill instead of subtracting. I pay 41.30 for next 12 on my note 4 but with my 25off discount i pay 16 a month for my phone. 16x12=192. After 12 months i would only need to pay 192 and then i can turn my phone in and get a new one with no penalties and if i keepy my phone i end up paying 320. The access discount is only appied when you are on the next plan or buy outright so it needs to be considered in your calculations because if you sign a contract your bill jumps +25. For 2 note 4s on next 12 plus 15gb family share with unlimited calling and text i only pay 180 a month. Just playing with the at&t cart i added 2 smartphones to the cart with 10gb share and on contract and the price is 180. I pay exactly what new customers pay but with the option to upgrade early.
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Next plan is created for people like you.
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You only trade in your phone if you want a new phone at 12 months. If you keep it 20 (making payments) the phone is yours to do whatever with. Also with my $25 a line discount it only ends up being $19 a month for my note 4 so I end up paying $380 over 20 months to own it free and clear vs $750 buying it outright.
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Exactly. I plan on doing this.
Anyone else get a deal through retentions?
I did this, I was pissed the ATT version was more expensive than the Tmobile version. Called retentions and complained, they have me a $180 credit. I since sold the ATT version and got a Tmobile one anyway.
Spawn026 said:
Not sure where your calculations came from but why are you adding the discount to the bill instead of subtracting. I pay 41.30 for next 12 on my note 4 but with my 25off discount i pay 16 a month for my phone. 16x12=192. After 12 months i would only need to pay 192 and then i can turn my phone in and get a new one with no penalties and if i keepy my phone i end up paying 320. The access discount is only appied when you are on the next plan or buy outright so it needs to be considered in your calculations because if you sign a contract your bill jumps +25. For 2 note 4s on next 12 plus 15gb family share with unlimited calling and text i only pay 180 a month. Just playing with the at&t cart i added 2 smartphones to the cart with 10gb share and on contract and the price is 180. I pay exactly what new customers pay but with the option to upgrade early.
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Let me clear your mind. The $25 discount is for your line which they normally charge you $40. With the discount you pay $15 instead of $40. Your $41.30 payment stay the same no change what so ever.