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Can we expect Orange release today (2nd)?

I've read a few reports suggesting that Orange will be making the desire available from today (Fri 2nd Apr) through its stores and possibly online. Think techradar confirmed this in a recent article.
Can anyone shed any more light on the chances of a release today?!

Go to bed.... wake up and see!

I would be suprised if they did as 4 days ago the guy at orange said he had no clue when it is out.

I rang Orange retentions at 09:01 this morning. No HTC Desire, no release date, not likely to be released later today. Just goes to show you can't always believe what you read on t'internet!
What they did say is that they feed back demand to the powers that be on a daily basis so the more people who ring up and ask for a Desire, the faster it will be released. Apparently they are waiting until their stock of HTC Hero and some other handsets is used up (around 3-4 days worth) before launching the Desire but will launch it earlier if they sense they are losing out to other networks.
If anyone hear different, let us know!
Ian A.

Well I'm gonna head off to Vodafone once Devicewire get them in - they've got a good £25/month deal with 600 mins +texts +'unlimited' internet. I have no real faith in Orange anymore unless retentions offer me a really good deal (and based on what I had to do 18 months ago, that is as likely as me playing for the Arsenal at the Nou Camp on Tuesday - although given our injuries... )
Oh and one more thing that will definitely delay it with Orange - last night the released the Xperia X10 - they'll want to shift them first before the HTC Desire. I originally wanted that but now the reviews haven't been that favourable - no multi-touch (ever!!!!), Android 1.6 with a promise to go to 2.1 (presumably when everyone has gone to 3.0) - although their mediascape, timescape interfaces do work well. Hardware wise it could've been the ultimate handset - 8MP camera, 4 inch hi-def screen etc. yet only being a smidgeon bigger than an iPhone. Yet SE screw up again by releasing a handset with a version of software that is 6 months old. And given their current record of not fully supporting their handsets when they're out (extrememly slow updates, with bugs not being ironed out) I think I'll be giving that one a miss...

IPAddis said:
Apparently they are waiting until their stock of HTC Hero and some other handsets is used up (around 3-4 days worth) before launching the Desire but will launch it earlier if they sense they are losing out to other networks.
If anyone hear different, let us know!
Ian A.
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Are they having a laugh? They'll releease it earlier if they sense they are losing out to other networks? OK, T-Mobile had first the exclusive to get it out first, but Vodafone have it and even bloody Virgin Media have it. Losing out to other networks is a masterpiece of understatement if VM have the thing and the supposed "best network of 2009" don't yet!

I doubt they will wait for them to get rid of Xerpia X10 as its the Desire's alternative option so people who dont like HTC and are Sony fans will go for that while others will want Desire.

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I doubt they will wait for them to get rid of Xerpia X10 as its the Desire's alternative option so people who dont like HTC and are Sony fans will go for that while others will want Desire.
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Ordinarily that would be true but this is Orange we're talking about here!!!
Besides I believe they are the first to be selling the X10 so whilst they have that advantage they're gonna push that to the full. If you have a choice between that and the Desire then it fragments their sales for the X10. And let us not forget there is an outside chance of them not even stocking it all!
With the X1 they were constantly saying it was coming etc. and in the end they never officially released it (even though cpw and others were selling it on Orange plans). The X10 was listed as a coming soon phone for the last month or so, and yet the HTC Desire isn't even listed as coming soon.
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it never came out on Orange (esp. if they can't get their crapware onto it)...

fuzzmo said:
and yet the HTC Desire isn't even listed as coming soon.
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I'm not agree with you
(Ok, it's in France... Good news for us anyways )

fuzzmo said:
Ordinarily that would be true but this is Orange we're talking about here!!!
Besides I believe they are the first to be selling the X10 so whilst they have that advantage they're gonna push that to the full. If you have a choice between that and the Desire then it fragments their sales for the X10. And let us not forget there is an outside chance of them not even stocking it all!
With the X1 they were constantly saying it was coming etc. and in the end they never officially released it (even though cpw and others were selling it on Orange plans). The X10 was listed as a coming soon phone for the last month or so, and yet the HTC Desire isn't even listed as coming soon.
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it never came out on Orange (esp. if they can't get their crapware onto it)...
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True, I hope that dont happen tho otherwise I will have to wait till July before changing to another network as upgrade can be done early but I cant afford to buy the rest of my contract and then get a new one.
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thats good news as if its out in France I cant see why they wont be out in UK.

Kiiv said:
I'm not agree with you
(Ok, it's in France... Good news for us anyways )
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Hehe - good news for you guys but:
http://shop.orange.co.uk/mobile-pho...nvBLDTszxGDLTK1j4vwH6JG!1816178946!-514848741
Still nothing for us! For the record I reckon it will come out but Lord knows when they will announce it. The Orange PR guy said 'early April, with the black edition late April'.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/htc-desire-black-edition-confirmed-coming-to-orange-uk-in-late/
When you consider that, it is quite bizarre that officially they don't even list it as coming soon...

Sometimes, Orange guys are not very well informed
I went in a shop two days ago (Desire already were on Orange website) and the man tell me he never heard speaking about the HTC Desire... We have so good sellers in our country

Well, once again I have spoken to Orqange and the best answer they could come out with was "within the next two weeks".
FFS it's typical Orange. Always the first to announce and the last to get!
I have, and I quote, been promised that "We'll send you a text message as soon as they have the handset available, so that you can arrange to obtain the phone".
Place your bets now on whether I'll actually get a text or not...

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Well, once again I have spoken to Orqange and the best answer they could come out with was "within the next two weeks".
FFS it's typical Orange. Always the first to announce and the last to get!
I have, and I quote, been promised that "We'll send you a text message as soon as they have the handset available, so that you can arrange to obtain the phone".
Place your bets now on whether I'll actually get a text or not...
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Yeah Orange are very bad at getting new phones in, I had this issue with the Nokia N78 and they never ended up getting it. Although that time, they had not announced they will have it while they did with Desire and its on the French website so in that way it must mean it WILL come but when is the question. They got till 14th as thats when I can upgrade ha ha but o2 not getting it till 19th and 3 till 20th so Orange got till then to be same time as others.

Have any of you guys considered making the switch to T-mobile seeing as how in a few months they will both be the same 1 network anyway?

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Have any of you guys considered making the switch to T-mobile seeing as how in a few months they will both be the same 1 network anyway?
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I am - but the department that handles issuing the PAC codes aren't open today. Will be on the phone from 09:00 tomorrow to get it and then will order the T-Mobile package (£30/month 18 months) off mobiles.co.uk.
Apparently the phone isn't even in their reviews list and the bloke on the phone wasn't even sure they would be getting it!!!!
Bet i get a different story tomorrow when I finally get my PAC code....

fuzzmo said:
I am - but the department that handles issuing the PAC codes aren't open today. Will be on the phone from 09:00 tomorrow to get it and then will order the T-Mobile package (£30/month 18 months) off mobiles.co.uk.
Apparently the phone isn't even in their reviews list and the bloke on the phone wasn't even sure they would be getting it!!!!
Bet i get a different story tomorrow when I finally get my PAC code....
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If you go through T-Mobile themselves you'll get a much better deal, the are also much more reliable than mobiles.co.uk seem to be and if the phone breaks you have the added security that you can just take it back into a store for repair instead of bothering with mailing it off etc.
If you haggle on the phone you can get the prices down, I got from this:
Handset cost : £60
600 Minutes
500 Texts
Flexible Booster
3GB Internet
£25 P/M
To:
Handset Cost: Free
600 Mins
Unlimited Texts (the flexible booster)
3GB Internet
£25 P/M
Try these excuses:
- I just phoned up and was told the phone was £x (this is what I did, I was genuine but it worked, might have to phone twice as they have it on record I assume when you phoned up)
- x.com is doing a better deal
- Vodafone is doing a better deal.

Ah OK, thanks for the advice - I was assuming a lot of the good deals were for current customers - is your deal 18 months? I don't wish to be tied in to a two year contract...

fuzzmo said:
Ah OK, thanks for the advice - I was assuming a lot of the good deals were for current customers - is your deal 18 months? I don't wish to be tied in to a two year contract...
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No, Mine is 24 months but I see no reason why you wouldn't be able to do the same thing with a 18 month contract.
The 18 month equivalent of my plan is £30 a month.

I would change but like I said in previous post, I cant afford the £80 to finish off my contract till July and then another £25 a month from April so would cost me extra £80 to change over early and no point in waiting for July as by that time a new fone would be out.

Where to get it in London on launch day

(Sorry skip I know this should be posted in the UK thread, but I'm looking for some fast answers)
I'm happen to be in London at Nov. 17 and wonder what stores could have the gnexus in stock on that day. Carphone warehouse @ Oxford Street perhaps?

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(Sorry skip I know this should be posted in the UK thread, but I'm looking for some fast answers)
I'm happen to be in London at Nov. 17 and wonder what stores could have the gnexus in stock on that day. Carphone warehouse @ Oxford Street perhaps?
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Thats ok mate I will let it slide for hmm 4 days then its getting closed
Im guessing that all phones4u store should have it in stock on release day, my local store in Great Yarmouth said they will have it in stock on 17th. Also maybe o2 stores since they have stated it will be available on pay monthly and PAYG plans on release. Havent heard anything about Carphone Warehouse stores stocking it.
If you give phones4u a call on 0800 072 5855 they should be able to tell you which stores will be stocking it on that day or put you in touch with them directly.
Mark.

Thanks Mark! Exactly the info I needed. (Actually it is no coincidence that I will be in the UK at launch day lol)

appelflap said:
Thanks Mark! Exactly the info I needed. (Actually it is no coincidence that I will be in the UK at launch day lol)
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If you wanted it that badly I could have just bought one and posted it to you mate
Glad to see you will be getting a Galaxy Nexus though its good to see some familiar faces again
Mark.

mskip said:
If you wanted it that badly I could have just bought one and posted it to you mate
Glad to see you will be getting a Galaxy Nexus though its good to see some familiar faces again
Mark.
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Well one needs a vacation sometimes, so why not go where there's a new Android version is released .. and yeah London is also great LoL (there's a nice Jazz festival going on now).
Just hope I can get it somewhere without a plan. Otherwise I have to fill my time with visiting weird things like bridges, palaces, churches etc lol

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Well one needs a vacation sometimes, so why not go where there's a new Android version is released .. and yeah London is also great LoL (there's a nice Jazz festival going on now).
Just hope I can get it somewhere without a plan. Otherwise I have to fill my time with visiting weird things like bridges, palaces, churches etc lol
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Haha you dont wana do that theres plenty of bridges to look at in the world. Phones4u should definitely be stocking them on 17th so get a few adresses before you go and even call them if you can.
Mark.

[Q] what date have dial a phone said for delivery

as title says.they told me 11th April

same here, told me on the phone the 7th but my email confirmation says the 11th.

Also the 11th for my order with dialaphone. Seems like everyone got the same date. Still if it comes sooner then that's great.

11th for me too.

Mine says 11th too, shows credit check passed. They've also taken payment for the handset.

this is mainly due to bank holiday weekends ofcourse. Never mind few days more will not kill you.

Tad confused now, found this on their FB page.
Dialaphone Hi Mike, Thanks for your post. The expected delivery date for all HTC One X handsets is the 12th April. Let me know if you have any further questions and have a great day. Cheers, Espi.
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11th for me as well on the Vodafone contract. Don't mind waiting a few extra days but would be nice to get it before Easter holidays, doubt that will happen!

It may possibly come earlier.
This late date might be for the stats as proof they have 'exceeded customers' expectations' by delivering earlier than promised. Who knows, it may have a 'stretch target' to exceed delivery times to qualify for a bonus.
On the other hand, they might be telling the truth

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Tad confused now, found this on their FB page.
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They told me the 12th on Twitter as well, but all our order pages say the 11th.
Think they are simply covering their backs in case of holiday delays.

Audioboxer said:
They told me the 12th on Twitter as well, but all our order pages say the 11th.
Think they are simply covering their backs in case of holiday delays.
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Good point. Would love it to come early

Im going to give them a phone and see what they say,

johnbhoy89 said:
Im going to give them a phone and see what they say,
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Ask about beats headphones with o2 phones please

JimmyEatFood said:
Ask about beats headphones with o2 phones please
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couldnt confirm if they were sending it earlier than the 11th and also wouldnt confirm what headphones will be in the box
she was a bit rude, im guessing shes been pestered for information off of us

johnbhoy89 said:
couldnt confirm if they were sending it earlier than the 11th and also wouldnt confirm what headphones will be in the box
she was a bit rude, im guessing shes been pestered for information off of us
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cheers pal

thanks! i feel better now since i can't pay until then. i was already planning to pay extra for next day shipping. it stills says pre-order on Negri Electronics, so it's probably the same date for them.

johnbhoy89 said:
couldnt confirm if they were sending it earlier than the 11th and also wouldnt confirm what headphones will be in the box
she was a bit rude, im guessing shes been pestered for information off of us
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They have probably been given a script and their calls will be listened to and QC'd to check they stick to it. I suspect the first we will hear if its an earlier date is an email saying its shipping.

so, after paying vodafone to bring my commitment date earlyer so i can upgrade, i went through dialaphone purely because voda was asking far too much,
so i went for a white one x voda upgrade
free handset
htc media link
£31 pm 300 mins / unlim texts/1gb data
delivery i was told would be the 7th. that was today at lunch i made the order,
i was waiting for the s3 but im impatient, owning
hero/desire/desire z/desire hd/ to my current nexus s with custom rom. i wanted to go for this handset and canny wait,
purchased my screen protecters already,in car kit,home dock tooo,
sorry to ramble on lol, cheers,

I ordered my One X through Dialaphone almost 2 weeks ago now, I did call and speak to a gent just before ordering and he said they where due them in on the 7th, which if your not aware is Good Friday, if this is true then they probably won't ship till the following Tuesday after Easter Monday. That would make delivery date the 11th which is what everyone's order probably does say!
I live in hope that they may come in a day earlier and MAYBE come on the Friday/Saturday but it is unlikely so I am just banking on the 11th, itll be far less disppointing that way

I don't know why companies like HTC choose such a stupid time to release handsets. They could have chose any week, instead they choose Easter week. So annoying, lol.
But you are right, all these conspiracy theories about the phones being shipped late due to branding are probably all a load of crap. It's just the lack of days available to deliver due to the holidays that is causing the delays.
It's still not to say obviously that some phones could be branded, but lets hope not.

Talk about large text!! And +10 for Handtec!

Man the text on this phone is HUGE!!! Even on the GN you were able to reduce the size of the text a bit more than this. Anyone else find this text way larger than it needs to be?
Also for all those who are consideirng buying. Handtec fantastic retailer. I use to buy from them back in my winmo days and they would always screw up the importing documents and the package would be stuck in customs but they have fixed that now. Fast and smooth transaction and it was also the cheapest i was able to find it.

I'm glad you had a good experience with Handtec. I was thinking about ordering from them here in a few days as well.

did you try and change the font size in settings?
settings..>..display & gestures..>..font size

do the packages always go to customs or they just choose them randomly

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do the packages always go to customs or they just choose them randomly
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I believe its random. I've ordered twice from Handtec. Last year I got my GS II from them and it arrived the next day without being stopped by customs. My One X is in customs now. It was supposed to arrive today. I faxed the papers in and my phone has been released. It will arrive tomorrow. So it was only a 1 day delay.

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did you try and change the font size in settings?
settings..>..display & gestures..>..font size
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Yea. I changed it to small but i believe the GN had a tiny setting that this device doesn't have or the small just isn't small enough.

Dimeezy said:
I believe its random. I've ordered twice from Handtec. Last year I got my GS II from them and it arrived the next day without being stopped by customs. My One X is in customs now. It was supposed to arrive today. I faxed the papers in and my phone has been released. It will arrive tomorrow. So it was only a 1 day delay.
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I actually believe all packages go through customs. You only get stuck when some document is off or if some genius over there reads the document incorrectly. That last one really pisses me off. From my experience it goes through customs in the middle of the night. Once its starts moving the UK it gets to the US the following day. For the east coast folks i believe it stops in Memphis which has a customs office and then goes out from there.

at what time/day did you guys order it? and what color? did you choose Fedex or UPS? someone from NY said he got it the next day..his package didn't have to go through customs

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at what time/day did you guys order it? and what color? did you choose Fedex or UPS? someone from NY said he got it the next day..his package didn't have to go through customs
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I'm not sure how anyone would know if it went through customs or not? There is a difference between being stuck in customs and going through customs. I think its like saying I didn't go through airport security just because you didn't go through extra screening. I'm pretty sure it all goes through customs but then again I've never worked for fedex or UPS so i don't really know.
In this case I ordered on Sunday afternoon and they shipped it out Tuesday evening UK time and I got it Wed morning before 1030AM.

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I'm not sure how anyone would know if it went through customs or not? There is a difference between being stuck in customs and going through customs. I think its like saying I didn't go through airport security just because you didn't go through extra screening. I'm pretty sure it all goes through customs but then again I've never worked for fedex or UPS so i don't really know.
In this case I ordered on Sunday afternoon and they shipped it out Tuesday evening UK time and I got it Wed morning before 1030AM.
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I don't know? probably because he received it the next business day..Ive placed an order wed afternoon so hopefully i will get it this sat

At Handtec? If you placed it on Wed and you live in Miami you will probably get it Friday assuming they didn't mess up any documentation.

How much did you pay for your One X?Are there any tax/fee when you purchase from handtec?

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How much did you pay for your One X?Are there any tax/fee when you purchase from handtec?
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It was 403.99 pounds without VAT, which you don't have to pay if you are in the US. That turned out to about 685 US dollars.

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At Handtec? If you placed it on Wed and you live in Miami you will probably get it Friday assuming they didn't mess up any documentation.
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Let's hope so! Are you using it with att or tmo? im lucky to live in an area with the 1900mhz spectrum but if i travel Ill get stuck with edge..and I travel a lot..never thought of that, damn

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Let's hope so! Are you using it with att or tmo? im lucky to live in an area with the 1900mhz spectrum but if i travel Ill get stuck with edge..and I travel a lot..never thought of that, damn
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I'm using on At&t but I believe it supports 850MHz and 1900MHz on the One X but only one of those for the One S. I haven't had any connectivity issues but I also have not left Melbourne FL since yesterday when I received it. I also bought a micro sim cutter. I'm sure you've already considered this but I wanted to let everyone know that the Noosy second generation cutter is great although the adapters SUCK!!!!!

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Man the text on this phone is HUGE!!! Even on the GN you were able to reduce the size of the text a bit more than this. Anyone else find this text way larger than it needs to be?
Also for all those who are consideirng buying. Handtec fantastic retailer. I use to buy from them back in my winmo days and they would always screw up the importing documents and the package would be stuck in customs but they have fixed that now. Fast and smooth transaction and it was also the cheapest i was able to find it.
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You can set the text size to small and reduce it even more if you pinch to zoom when you're in an actual text message!!! It'll be bloody tiny! Or skip the: Settings - Small step and just pinch to zoom when you're in a message.

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You can set the text size to small and reduce it even more if you pinch to zoom when you're in an actual text message!!! It'll be bloody tiny! Or skip the: Settings - Small step and just pinch to zoom when you're in a message.
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Hahah!! I did not try that. Thanks for the tip. It worked well. I just wish it would go through the entire overlay. Just so much wasted space but lets be honest we all know I'm waiting for a AOKP build lol. Probably won't happen till kernel source is available.

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hmm ok plan b.. install 'rom toolbox' from the market go to the last page of the tweaks and choose a font from the font installer..some of them are really tiny

Sadly I enjoy the current font. Just wish it was smaller. I mean to be honest its a nit picky thing. If my only complaint about the phone is the font is too big then HTC is doing something right.

Cannot agree more on the font size!!!
I'm getting a little annoyed by the font size too!!
Received my One S yesterday and the font size is the first thing that caught my nerves!!! I was like !!!
Especially in the Email app, even setting the body font size to small, the text is HUGE on the emails!!!
I own a Galaxy Nexus too, and the font size is SOOOOO MUCH more normal and gives you more sizes to choose from!!!
So I'm guessing its a HTC Sense issue...
I actually posted a thread on this problem too (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24749856)
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hmm ok plan b.. install 'rom toolbox' from the market go to the last page of the tweaks and choose a font from the font installer..some of them are really tiny
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Does it require the phone to be rooted to use "rom toolbox"??

Limited Green Logo Edition?

Does any one have any info on the Limited Green logo edition?
Will it cost more?
is the only difference the colored logo?
Will you guys try to get it or will you just go with a skin?

Three in the UK have it, maybe carrier exclusive. same specs.

yeah i pre ordered the green limited edition from three

It's first come, first serve I believe. They only made a limited amount of them.
Same price. The logo is the only thing different.
I personally don't like it. I prefer the regular edition.

My gf said she'll paint mine for me
I'm guessing ebay will have a lot of limited edition phones after release.. :|

Just ordered mine but was about 1 hour late to the order party and the green sold out. Did anyone manage to get a green one? It was really limited only 1337 units

Well when I ordered a new contract with Three on the 8th Nov I went for the Green Limited Edition one. But it's not very clear on my confirmation email. It just states "Razer Phone" then details my new plan.
I hope its the green one I do get sent and hopefully receive Friday 17th as stated in my email but not had any other emails about Dispatch or anything yet.

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Well when I ordered a new contract with Three on the 8th Nov I went for the Green Limited Edition one. But it's not very clear on my confirmation email. It just states "Razer Phone" then details my new plan.
I hope its the green one I do get sent and hopefully receive Friday 17th as stated in my email but not had any other emails about Dispatch or anything yet.
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Bought PAYG on the green one and haven't had a single email either. was on live chat earlier and was told it would ship today....obviously just live support BS to get me off the chat.

Well I will keep an eye on my email tomorrow and let you know if I get anything. If not I may ring Three to find out. Don't suppose anyone knows how phones are usually shipped? Royal Mail or Courier (Hermes, DPD etc)?

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Well I will keep an eye on my email tomorrow and let you know if I get anything. If not I may ring Three to find out. Don't suppose anyone knows how phones are usually shipped? Royal Mail or Courier (Hermes, DPD etc)?
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They told me it's DPD next day. Which makes no difference with me as usually DPD downgrade all next day parcels for Northern Ireland to a 2 day service so I doubt i'll get it Friday.

Interesting, At least if its DPD for me as well, then I'll have a 1 hour time slot. Can get my brother to pop over mine if its coming while I'm in work.

FortKnox said:
Well I will keep an eye on my email tomorrow and let you know if I get anything. If not I may ring Three to find out. Don't suppose anyone knows how phones are usually shipped? Royal Mail or Courier (Hermes, DPD etc)?
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dont call they clueless, send an email to the email address on email confirmation. they respond quite quickly.

Okay will do. Thanks.
Also found out Three deliver by DPD by default which is a great.
http://support.three.co.uk/SRVS/CGI...,Kb=Mobile,Ts=Mobile,T=CaseDoc,Case=Obj(37535)

The only real ones are made with this.
http://a.co/ezFq0qs

I got one from 3 in denmark - preordered it the day it was revealed, it was the same price as the normal one. got it this morning already and im excited about it. the camera is really bad, but i like the screen, performance and speakers...

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I got one from 3 in denmark - preordered it the day it was revealed, it was the same price as the normal one. got it this morning already and im excited about it. the camera is really bad, but i like the screen, performance and speakers...
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Fancy posting pictures of it? don't think i've seen the green logo version yet.

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Fancy posting pictures of it? don't think i've seen the green logo version yet.
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https://ibb.co/cgQaSm
https://ibb.co/dXWFSm

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The Green is nicer than I thought it was going to be, thought it might look a bit off compared to the silver but I like it thanks for the pics!
Any out of the box system updates?

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Yeah Camera App isn't the best at the moment, nothing wrong with the Camera hardware as it is supposed to be an improved version of the camera used in the S7. Which is pretty decent. So until Razer release there Camera updates it's gonna be a bit hit and miss. Btekt on Youtube has showcased how the Razer Phones camera was improved by using this Modded version of the Google Camera ported from the Pixel (link below) however it only takes advantage of the main camera not the second. But until Razer comes out with an update for its camera app then the Google Camera port may be the way to go, at least temporarily.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported/
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That looks great, can't wait to get mine tomorrow.

no updates out of the box. I think theres a difference in regional software in the Razer Phone or between the Razer Phone and the Razer Phone SE, i dont seem to have some preinstalled games and wallpapers as others from the U.S i saw on youtube (I´m from denmark). As regarding my impressions of the phone, im happy about the 120 hz, the sound, and especialy the Dolby Atmos support. The performance and build quality. I´m maybe a little bit disapointed by the screen, coming from a Note4 with superAmoled, and the camera isnot good at the moment.. But again, this phone has something cool about it..