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Hi there,
I'm new to these forums and am really interesting in the HTC Desire. Being a user of Sony Walkman phones for the last 4 years music playback is a huge part of my phone usage.
I'm wondering as a device without an equaliser how does this rate compared to other phones for music playback? Is it possible to download third party music playback software?
Otherwise this phone looks perfect, possibly too good to be true at £15 a month on t-mobile!
Hi, check the GSMarena review - sound quality is top notch! (so why would you want to ruin good sound fidelity with an EQ?).
Problems with non-unicode tagging leads to things being seen as "Unknown Genre" by the music player, which is a significant bummer for some (like me).
Theres plenty of third party software, some with EQs.
same boat here.. i have been a Sony walkman user for the last 10 years and sound quality was/is top of my agenda..
the Desire is pretty good i'd have to say.. ok doesnt sound as good as my Sony X series walkman but its unlikely to as thats a dedicated audio/video device.. the nice thing about android is that there's a choice of apps you can use for music playback.. the stock one is fine but a bit boring.. i downloaded 'cubed' last night and its got a pretty neat interface..
i would like an equaliser to be able to add treble/bass etc.. and i've seen it in some players.. but the interfaces are a bit iffy at the moment.. hopefully in time someone will create an all singing all dancing music player..
oh and just keep an eye on the the low volume threads here.. some people have gotten phones that the volume is very low on but mine (unlocked unbranded from carphone warehouse) is plenty loud..
Cheers,
Mick
LaChavvy said:
Hi there,
I'm new to these forums and am really interesting in the HTC Desire. Being a user of Sony Walkman phones for the last 4 years music playback is a huge part of my phone usage.
I'm wondering as a device without an equaliser how does this rate compared to other phones for music playback? Is it possible to download third party music playback software?
Otherwise this phone looks perfect, possibly too good to be true at £15 a month on t-mobile!
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Cheers for the feedback I'm glad the audio is pretty decent! The idea of using a standard headphone jack is a nice change to the SE phones.
Another question is can you change song without having to whap it out? It may sound strange but when I'm walking to say University, I can currently just hit the rocker switch on the side of the phone to change track - is that the case with the Desire?
Or do I have to bring it out, unlock it, and then change track, relock it, then tidy it away? Hope not!
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Another question is can you change song without having to whap it out? It may sound strange but when I'm walking to say University, I can currently just hit the rocker switch on the side of the phone to change track - is that the case with the Desire?
Or do I have to bring it out, unlock it, and then change track, relock it, then tidy it away? Hope not!
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If you use the bundled HTC headphones, then no. They come with media controls on the wire.
But if you use your own headphones, then yes. You'll have to take the device out, press the standby button to wake the device and skip to the track you want. You don't have to unlock and jump into the music application. There are music controls at the lock screen for back, play/pause, and forward.
Ah of course I forgot about those headphones. Thanks!
Now I just have to wait until January
LaChavvy said:
Ah of course I forgot about those headphones. Thanks!
Now I just have to wait until January
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Haha, January?! Why the wait? Surely by that time, there would be something else available that's more desirable...
You can control tracks/play/pause from the lockscreen.
I have a question to users of the Desire: when you put videos on the device and upload them to the memory card, can you arrange them into a playlist on the device itself to be able to play a series of music videos, without having to select each one, and also to be able to skip tracks, fast forward and shuffle???
Can the built-in music player play a video playlist?
If not, can the video player play a playlist with videos separately from music (and even just play the audio file if the screen is shut off)?
If not still, is there any application - video player - on Android Market that supports video playlists and shuffle, skip and fast forward?
I would not dream of being able to change the playback speed tho, just to be able to play vids right. I'd appreciate any your insights
Meridian is a great music/video player!
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the speaker isnt so good, though
I'm finding the music via earphones to be a little low. Are there any players with EQ so I could boost it up a bit?
I know people on UK T-Mobile ROM's had an issue with low music volume but I don't think that's the same issue with mine as i'm using the generic ROM.
if you want an awesome music app, try PowerAMP... impressive!! it detects when u insert headphones and auto resumes your last tune, even if the app was closed! Also flawless gapless play back!
Also peeps, your samsung supplied headphones have a button on the mic for pausing/answering your calls, but hold the button and it will skip track!! It can also be configured for double/triple presses for next/previous track!!
It works with DSP Manager alongside its own full featured EQ...
The best music app i've come across!
Dickie
Yep, I think most of us who have tried PowerAMP are converts. I got the trial version several months ago, paid for the full app after about 7 minutes (once Master of Puppets had finished playing from memory). Best thing about the EQ is the preamp, which increases output to headphones a reasonable amount.
The has been the music application I've used since it was released and the purchased it once it came on the market.
yeah, you couldn't ask for more from a player really eh!! ive used it for a while now, but thought i'd throw it up as ive not really seen a mention of it but a few people complaining about lack of controls on the mic and incompatabilities with other/older ear phones with track skip etc...
nice solution!
Dickie
best music player there is : ) makes my shure earphones sound sexy. also love the widgets it has! had bought it on galaxy s a while back.
Does this use alot of battery? I just always notice it in the top 3 of my battery usage stats (the default one), even though I don't have it running (does it have some background processes running?)
PowerAMP and DSP manager run in tandem with each other is pure bliss to my ears. My headphones and car really appreciate it also :-D
Poweramp is great and doesnt use any/much battery when running. Added bonus is you can pay with paypal off there website.
Fully agreed, best player on the market!
Just downloaded this, superb!
just tried it and am impressed.
just need a video player which is good. anyone recommend one?
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just tried it and am impressed.
just need a video player which is good. anyone recommend one?
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mobo player ..
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i like the interface, but the picture don't seem as sharp as the default video player.
dickie2007 said:
if you want an awesome music app, try PowerAMP... impressive!! it detects when u insert headphones and auto resumes your last tune, even if the app was closed! Also flawless gapless play back!
Also peeps, your samsung supplied headphones have a button on the mic for pausing/answering your calls, but hold the button and it will skip track!! It can also be configured for double/triple presses for next/previous track!!
It works with DSP Manager alongside its own full featured EQ...
The best music app i've come across!
Dickie
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Thx man
i read your post yesterday and downloaded the player
today i bought it because it's the ****ing best music player i ever had on a phone
Agree with what has been said, PowerAMP is brilliant and the only player that recognised all of my album art and the id3 tags on all of my file types.
I got this back in my HTC Desire days. It is hands down the best music player Android has to offer and well worth the purchase. I wouldn't be surprised to see this snapped up and built into Android at some point!
really nice compared to the other music players around even with dsp manager.
Is it worth getting DSP manager if you already have this app?
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Is it worth getting DSP manager if you already have this app?
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Yes, Power Amp is absolutely great.
I've got much punchier bass and slightly louder volume in general now that I've installed DSP manager - it's a tiny download too, Rooster - go for it!
i did like PowerAmp, but it did figure high up on my power list. I'm in two minds whether to buy the full version.
I love the stock music player that came with my galaxy s because of it's ability to play music in 5.1 ch.
However, I have now flashed the latest MIUI to my sgs but the music player is not able to play music in 5.1 ch, so I was wondering if anyone of you guys know an app that can do this?
Thanks
5.1ch is just a sound effect. You can get it on any player app with basic tweaks to the equalizer settings.
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Ah, I see. Does anyone have any tips on how to achieve this with an eq?
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With 5.1ch people usually mean that instead of stereo (which is 2 channels, left + right) you have 4 additional channels (Center + Back left + Back Right + LFE or Bass (.1))
Your phone only has one speaker so I'm not sure how you want to achieve this.
The audio output is only capable of sending out stereo as well.
A source file with multi-channel audio is usually in *.vob format (DVD video format) but I know of no player that will show this on Android (except for the Archos Gen8 stock video player).
Audio only files would typically be in *.wav or *.ac3 format but same here, I know of no player that will play these multi-channel streams.
Perhaps I misunderstood your question?
Piepke
im sure you can find a port for the stock galaxy s player in this forum
Pierreken said:
With 5.1ch people usually mean that instead of stereo (which is 2 channels, left + right) you have 4 additional channels (Center + Back left + Back Right + LFE or Bass (.1))
Your phone only has one speaker so I'm not sure how you want to achieve this.
The audio output is only capable of sending out stereo as well.
A source file with multi-channel audio is usually in *.vob format (DVD video format) but I know of no player that will show this on Android (except for the Archos Gen8 stock video player).
Audio only files would typically be in *.wav or *.ac3 format but same here, I know of no player that will play these multi-channel streams.
Perhaps I misunderstood your question?
Piepke
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The stock galaxy s music player was able to simulate 5.1 ch (when headphones were plugged in) which provided a very nice boost in sound quality. What I'm looking for is either a port of that music player to MIUI or another music player that is able to do the same thing (or some eq settings that does it would also be fine).
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im sure you can find a port for the stock galaxy s player in this forum
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I have yet to find one that actually installs on my phone
That option is a load of bull XD.When you listen you only have 2 speakers assuming you are using earplugs which makes 2.0 the highest you can achieve. You shouldn't bother about it... just a stupid tweak that imho makes the sound sound worse...
your comment is a load of bull.. no offence here. But the guy is asking for something dont tell him if its bad or not. He likes it other people like it some dont like it you find it bull. But he doesnt comment you on that does he?
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And yes i find the sound nice to. And like other people said there are ways to get this trough EQ settings but so far i havnt got it the same as the stock player one
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your comment is a load of bull.. no offence here. But the guy is asking for something dont tell him if its bad or not. He likes it other people like it some dont like it you find it bull. But he doesnt comment you on that does he?
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And yes i find the sound nice to. And like other people said there are ways to get this trough EQ settings but so far i havnt got it the same as the stock player one
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All I was saying that the option is stupid and it's fake it doesnt provide 5.1ch surround sound and I thought he was thinking that and I was helping his out of his dream (read his 3rd post... this is the case here..). If this is the case my comment is valuable if this isn't well.. he'll just do nothing with the information... It's a win anyway, he has nothing to lose, playing around with a EQ is way better ;/. Install voodoo sound tbh if you want a good musical experience...
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All I was saying that the option is stupid and it's fake it doesnt provide 5.1ch surround sound and I thought he was thinking that and I was helping his out of his dream (read his 3rd post... this is the case here..). If this is the case my comment is valuable if this isn't well.. he'll just do nothing with the information... It's a win anyway, he has nothing to lose, playing around with a EQ is way better ;/. Install voodoo sound tbh if you want a good musical experience...
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The 5.1ch option was not stupid, even though it was fake. It made the sound much clearer and better on all headphones I used.
Will look into voodoo sound, thanks for the tip.
I had 5.1 available when I was using a gingerbread version I got from here. Now I can't seem to find one Pretty sure it was Calkulon or something along those lines. It was way better sound (with headphones) in my opinion, so I'm trying to find a current version that will deliver that "fake" surround
Epic touch 4g sprint running 4.1.2
On a side note, I got Jellybean using a vid a watched from QBking77 on youtube, and he references you guys alot.
There are some bugs with Jelly Bean... For instance my mic cuts out when I hold the phone to my face and the screen goes off. Bluetooth headset... NOT A CHANCE lol. On speakerphone i can talk just fine. Headset, works great too. Sometimes I have to pull the battery because the screen dims. But for the most part, it works great.
Hi all, im listen allot to FLAC music, and as you know the built in music app doest support this format, so i downloaded poweramp from google play and the sound was bad, so i search in the app how to improve the sound and i found an option to enable the beats audio,
Open the app, go to settings>audio engine>advanced tweaks> and unselect "direct volume control" and listen again
P.s sorry about my poor english, i really hope you all understand me.
ITAYSHARONI said:
Hi all, im listen allot to FLAC music, and as you know the built in music app doest support this format, so i downloaded poweramp from google play and the sound was bad, so i search in the app how to improve the sound and i found an option to enable the beats audio,
Open the app, go to settings>audio engine>advanced tweaks> and unselect "direct volume control" and listen again
P.s sorry about my poor english, i really hope you all understand me.
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The built in music app in fact does support FLAC since android 4.0
Why would you use Beats if you're a music enthousiast listening to FLACs?
You found the comprehensive eq in PowerAmp I take it? Always been able to get a decent sound tuned to the headphones I'm using. Beats is just a bass boost from the eighties.
Make sure you don't have the eq AND the tone controls (bass and treble) enabled, else they'll conflict. Chose one or other.
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Not sure about the OP, but on my device, Beats and PowerAmp, work right out of the box. The actual setting is only visible when you have a pair of headphones plugged in, then go to Sounds --> Sound Enhancer to select Beats
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Not sure about the OP, but on my device, Beats and PowerAmp, work right out of the box. The actual setting is only visible when you have a pair of headphones plugged in, then go to Sounds --> Sound Enhancer to select Beats
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WOrks samee for me here, too. Can I ask fellow PowerAmp users whether they have sudden dips and peaks in volume when browsing the phone and opening apps? Could you tell me if any advance tweaks you have, buffer size etc?
Thanks
The beats logo is showed from the box, but the sound isn't
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Thank you so much for find this and share with us. I loved Beats with the urBeats but now I can have both and PowerAmp with Beats. What a fantastic phone we have . Even the ICS Lockscreen feature does display Album Art on the HTC Lockscreen.
Hey thanks , that correct , now when I turn beats icon on/off can fill more baSS in sound, before this trick was no reaction.
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WOrks samee for me here, too. Can I ask fellow PowerAmp users whether they have sudden dips and peaks in volume when browsing the phone and opening apps? Could you tell me if any advance tweaks you have, buffer size etc?
Thanks
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Hmm, haven't noticed that, but in general the handling of notifications is very bad with PowerAmp!
Also, the fading function does not work anymore on One X. I posted about this in their forum and they said it is being looked at and will be fixed in the next update, whenever that is... :-/
I only enable Beats Profile when I need to dislodge ear wax. Otherwise I like being able to make out the words being sung.
pinn___________ said:
WOrks samee for me here, too. Can I ask fellow PowerAmp users whether they have sudden dips and peaks in volume when browsing the phone and opening apps? Could you tell me if any advance tweaks you have, buffer size etc?
Thanks
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Funny you mention this. I started noticing this after upgrading to 1.28
Also, the sudden pause/gap when listening to songs is also there; whether the next song starts (crossfading) or you fast-forward a song.
I think PowerAmp has not been optimized for the HTC One X yet. I hope the team is working on it. I love PowerAmp!
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Planet X said:
Thank you so much for find this and share with us. I loved Beats with the urBeats but now I can have both and PowerAmp with Beats. What a fantastic phone we have . Even the ICS Lockscreen feature does display Album Art on the HTC Lockscreen.
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I like that as well. When you select ICS Lockscreen in PowerAmp, it uses the actual HTC music widget on your lockscreen, that is very cool.
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Hmm, haven't noticed that, but in general the handling of notifications is very bad with PowerAmp!
Also, the fading function does not work anymore on One X. I posted about this in their forum and they said it is being looked at and will be fixed in the next update, whenever that is... :-/
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I've just noticed that if you change the thread priority to +1 , the dips in volume seem to go away. It's good that they are looking into optimizations tho
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FLAC, lossless audio with no drop in quality, used by audiophiles to obtain music in exactly the same sound/quality of the original.
Beats Audio - DSP EQ tuner software to alter the sound of the music, like using a crap DSP effect/EQ on a pc soundcard or ancient 1980's midi system
the 2 don't go together, you may as well use mp3 and save on storage space
zombiefly said:
FLAC, lossless audio with no drop in quality, used by audiophiles to obtain music in exactly the same sound/quality of the original.
Beats Audio - DSP EQ tuner software to alter the sound of the music, like using a crap DSP effect/EQ on a pc soundcard or ancient 1980's midi system
the 2 don't go together, you may as well use mp3 and save on storage space
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doesn't matter, let's music
I love to go to my company with playing music by 1X in my pocket. The quality of lossless music is acceptable
P/s : I'm using Pk2 earphone, not beat
zombiefly said:
FLAC, lossless audio with no drop in quality, used by audiophiles to obtain music in exactly the same sound/quality of the original.
Beats Audio - DSP EQ tuner software to alter the sound of the music, like using a crap DSP effect/EQ on a pc soundcard or ancient 1980's midi system
the 2 don't go together, you may as well use mp3 and save on storage space
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I don't think this is quite accurate, and furthermore do not understand the hate for Beats. I am not a fan by any means, but I really dislike it when people bash something because they read it elsewhere or someone else told them about it.
I am not saying that you are that person, Zombiefly
Reminds me of Windows Vista and people's perpetual dislike for the OS strictly from word of mouth when a lot of the bugs were squashed with SP1 (and subsequent SPs) ... but I digress
If some people like it, let them be. It just seems that every time someone expresses a certain preference for Beats or just ask a question about Beats in general, a lot of people jump on the hate bandwagon while not addressing anyone's questions; worse they say they prefer DSP Manager.
The irony here is that NONE OF THAT MATTERS if these so-called 'purists' are using Poweramp with the DVC option ticked on LOL; they're not even using Beats except for the notification icon haha.
Apologies for the rant - again, it has nothing to do with you specifically Zombiefly, just wanted to get that off my chest.
Errr, I might be being stupid here but where in Poweramp is the Sounds option?! I see the BeatAudio icon at the top when I plug headphones in and play music in Poweramp but turning Beats off or on in the notification bar makes no difference.
I cannot find an option for Beats anywhere in the Poweramp settings.
Thanks.
iouk said:
Errr, I might be being stupid here but where in Poweramp is the Sounds option?! I see the BeatAudio icon at the top when I plug headphones in and play music in Poweramp but turning Beats off or on in the notification bar makes no difference.
I cannot find an option for Beats anywhere in the Poweramp settings.
Thanks.
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Beats audio is a system feature not Poweramp. you can toggle it on/off from notification bar
iouk said:
Errr, I might be being stupid here but where in Poweramp is the Sounds option?! I see the BeatAudio icon at the top when I plug headphones in and play music in Poweramp but turning Beats off or on in the notification bar makes no difference.
I cannot find an option for Beats anywhere in the Poweramp settings.
Thanks.
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You have to click on 'Settings'
If you have the default three dots button (tap on that)
Click on Settings
Click on Audio Engine
Click on Advanced Tweaks
Disable Volume Control
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Beats audio is a system feature not Poweramp. you can toggle it on/off from notification bar
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I did say turning it off and on in the notification bar makes no difference.
Thanks Quiksilver78, that does the trick.
Totally stock no root
Is there anything I can do to improve the volume and sound on music?
There is not much you can do outside of adapt and the eq with the stock player. You can always download a music player app from the play store. Power amp and Gone Mad are both really good music players, both come with pre-amps in the paid version that will allow you to jack up the volume. There are a number of other apps that claim to be audiophile favs but honestly, I think it is more hype. Try Power amp - IMHO, it is the best out there without root. Please hit thanks if I helped in any way. Also, if you come across anything, please share.
you need root honestly. viper audio is da bomb!!!
many equalizers that are not widgets or dont run as seperate app are bad.
With Play Music app I use an equalizer that only changes"Play Music" and I set it up as a custom user EQ and it works nicely til we have root I will then try Viper.
I use bluetooth headset everyday Backbeat Go 2 and sound quality is already great.
Well never have root... I fear root on carrier phones is going the way of the DODO bird
big70tom said:
Well never have root... I fear root on carrier phones is going the way of the DODO bird
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Has anyone EVER successfully locked out the hackers and crackers for good? I'm not gonna get scared of it now...