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[FIXED] My First cab - T-Mobile UK customised threaded SMS

Yes, I've finally gotten around to looking into this whole cab making malarkey and while this is an existing one customised to fit my needs, it's a good learning curve
It's the palm threaded SMS app and it just plain rocks - really
So anyway, I've tested this on WM6 (Black 4) and it really works. Everything is already set up in this for using with T-Mobile and MMS works too! It integrates nicely with the HTC homescreen and includes a custom alert tone (hope you like it! )
Just to make sure the install goes OK, please use the task manager to stop the messaging \ poutlook \ tmail processes before you run the cab as I believe this could cause problems.
You will lose your existing SMS and MMS messages in the standard messaging app so if you want to keep them, use PIMBackup first
It's a fantastic app and I recommend giving it ago and if you're on T-Mob, I've just made it a little easier for you
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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EDIT 1: Fixed MMS settings
http://rapidshare.com/files/36981262/Lordsmiff_-_Threaded.cab.html

If you ever vist bristol I may be tempted to reward you. thanks.. a handy cab.

Any screen shots of threaded SMS? Also if i uninstall your cab, does everything go back to normal?
Thanks

nbedford said:
Any screen shots of threaded SMS? Also if i uninstall your cab, does everything go back to normal?
Thanks
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Good point! Nice work on the cab Lord but some reassurance would be fantastic

Service provider?
Have installed it and its quality. I can't send mms though. In the settings its set to cingular. I've got the tmob settings bar the centre number any ideas?

screen shot
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/10/18/treo-750v-threaded-sms-mms-app-hacked-for-all/
looks like that

I'm looking at it now - I did test it on mine first but I think it probably kept the registry settings when I uninstalled it and re-installed it.
As for uninstalling...on my T-Mobile UK MDA Vario II, it uninstalled perfectly and everything reverted to the standard messaging app...BUT, as with anything like this, please don't just take the poster's word for it - use PIMBackup and and back it all up first!! It will most likely work OK, but...sh*t happens ;-)
Smiffy.

Thanks man. Your word is always good enough

OK, there were 2 places in the registry where the MMS settings were stored and I only changed 1 but it's sorted now (tested 3 times ;-)
And no, my word isn't good enough ;-) Back it up!! :-D
Cheers,
Smiffy.

Fixed and fantastic
Think this will quite possibly be the first cab i'll install after future flashes. Intelligent fuctionality.
Cheers Lordsmiff nice work
Forgot to say that when i uninstalled first version my old sms and mms were still there. When i reinstalled the new ones reappeared. Like lordsmiff says back up just in case but it didnt completely remove messages only temporarily when using the app.

You're right, it doesn't remove the old messages, it just uses a different message store but, at the risk of repeating myself ;-) back it up anyway
Which reminds me - if you want to reflash your device and then get all your threaded SMS messages back, you need to backup a file in the Windows folder called "PalmMsgV001" and also a folder in Windows called "MMS"
The file has all the text messages and stuff in and the folder has all the images etc from MMS messages in (I found that out the hard way )
Copy those two to your storage card and then back after a reflash to have everything back in threads
Cheers,
Smiffy.

Moved to rapidshare at mod's request
Anyone have any ideas where better to put it as I know some people (myself included) can't get them during working hours...damn those proxys
Cheers,
Smiffy.

Is it possible to install this threaded sms cab then alter the network settings by installing one of the available operator cabs or does the setting need to be entered manually?
Thanks.

i havent looked at lordsmiff's version... but if its anything like the ones i posted there is a possible issue of mms not working if you enter the settings manually... but his could be different...

There's not much chance of it being too different - it's based on your cab
If you want me to mod it for your provider, I can do that for you
Just PM me the connection details and I'll see what I can do
Cheers,
Smiffy.

i had another thought if you wanted to run with the idea.. i go back to work today so my time is going to be limited again.
The original version where based on the sprint connections, when i extracted all the files from the cingular treo rom and dumped the registry i compared them, i noticed all the reg settings were pretty much the same except for 2 lines and of course all the provider settings. But im thinking that if we left out the hard coded provider settings and allow the user to enter them manually that this may stop the "sometimes" apparent connection issues with MMS. So basically have a generic threaded cab with no provider settings hard coded at all... and if someone wanted to feel ambitious enough they could make cabs with just the hard coded reg settings for different providers (not the whole app)..

Hi!
Sounds great! Can it also be used for a other provider ? If yes; how do I know my settings ?
Does it show a alerts and integrates it good in the HTC Home Screen ?
XIvius

Lordsmiff said:
There's not much chance of it being too different - it's based on your cab
If you want me to mod it for your provider, I can do that for you
Just PM me the connection details and I'll see what I can do
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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I really love this app and would like to go back to it. MMS has always worked for me when using shogunmarks version but I think its limited to 300k.
Since your offering lord would you make one for AT&T?
I linked the settings I would have just posted them here but didn't want to miss something so I linked the main page for you.
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...le=en_US&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB71325
thanks

One thing everyone should know when using this app is if you use any kind of app that closes programs like HTC Task Manager for example you need to add the Palm Threaded app to the exclusive list so it does NOT close when pressing x.
What happens a lot of times is most people write their txt msg and just click the x but with the threaded you have to wait until the msg is actually sent.
So the app should be running most of the time..

Hi,
What about the new sms notify; does it show an alerts and integrates it good in the HTC Home Screen ?
Xivius

Small MMS Pics On T-Mobile touch pro 2

i have the t-mobile touch pro 2 and the images i send and receive are small is there a fix for this.?
i went in to the MMS options already to change the resolution size of pics i receive, and it didnt work so i set it back to original.
i am running build 21051.1.6.4
ROM 1.20.531.4
Radio 3.45.25.14

Here you go. This worked like a charm on my Touch Pro. I havn't tried it on my TP2 yet because I haven't received any mms messages yet. If you decide to give it a try, please let us know if it works or not.
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no i installed and i couldnt receive any mms

Some operators require you to download the settings from the operator's site and installing them first. Sometimes this can be done via sending an sms, or it has to be done manually.
I think T-Mobile also requires you to have first sent an MMS before actually being able to receive them.

small mms
It s the same s...t like HD on mms
Small pics small videos....please tell us if .cab do it better!

I also receive small pictures on mms, but the only person who I have received an mms from is my partner. Here phone is an older nokia 6230i, and I'm guessing that the size of the picture I receive is the size of the picture her phone is sending me... Is that not the case? As I'd definately like to receive bigger pictures!
Tested this out by sending a picture to myself (yes, aren't I sad hehe). The picture I sent, I sent in high resolution (sxga). The picture I received back in my phone was a small size... So I'd say it's definately down to a setting on the phone somewhere. Unless it's network dependant, and the network make the picture smaller (I'm with O2 UK).
Would definately like to know an answer to this!
Cheers

Any body any further ideas on this. Looking back on my old n95, I received the pictures at a much higher pic rate. So definately the phone at fault...

I installed the cab and it worked for two mms pics, actual size and all. Then it wouldn't let me send any mms, but would let me receive them. But they came as smaller pics again. So I just deleted that cab off my phone until another solution comes along.
Sorry guys like I stated in the post where I posted the cab, it worked flawlessly on my Touch Pro, but on the Rhoduim its a different story. And these small mms pics isn't worth a crap.

Generally what happens with tmobile is that it defaults to small blurry pics when a MMS is sent to/from a phone that it doesn't support. You have to trick it into being a different phone so that the network knows how to handle the MMS. I have had to this to every iphone i setup on tmobile's network

OK, I managed to get this sorted for my phone (well, so far so good anyway).
Way I did it... Basically what jim_0068 said. I made it beleive it was a N95 phone. This is how I did it:
Edit the registry using your favourite editor (I used the Resco File Manager Registry Editor). Then, Navigate to:
HKLM - Software - Arcsoft MMS UA - Config - mm1 - WspHeader
Then, edit the key "User-Agent" to:
NokiaN95/11.0.026; Series60/3.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1
Now, edit the key "Profile" to:
http://nds1.nds.nokia.com/uaprof/NN95-1r100.xml
I did a soft reset, altho you should be able to get away without doing a soft reset apparantly. I then sent a picture to myself, and hey presto, it came through full size. I tried changing the details to a different phone model previously, but that still hadn't worked!
Hope this helps all others

lovelldr said:
OK, I managed to get this sorted for my phone (well, so far so good anyway).
Way I did it... Basically what jim_0068 said. I made it beleive it was a N95 phone. This is how I did it:
Edit the registry using your favourite editor (I used the Resco File Manager Registry Editor). Then, Navigate to:
HKLM - Software - Arcsoft MMS UA - Config - mm1 - WspHeader
Then, edit the key "User-Agent" to:
NokiaN95/11.0.026; Series60/3.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1
Now, edit the key "Profile" to:
http://nds1.nds.nokia.com/uaprof/NN95-1r100.xml
I did a soft reset, altho you should be able to get away without doing a soft reset apparantly. I then sent a picture to myself, and hey presto, it came through full size. I tried changing the details to a different phone model previously, but that still hadn't worked!
Hope this helps all others
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I'd been playing this for the last hour trying to find a phone model that would work. This worked for me, thank you very much!

Supertrooper said:
I installed the cab and it worked for two mms pics, actual size and all. Then it wouldn't let me send any mms, but would let me receive them. But they came as smaller pics again. So I just deleted that cab off my phone until another solution comes along.
Sorry guys like I stated in the post where I posted the cab, it worked flawlessly on my Touch Pro, but on the Rhoduim its a different story. And these small mms pics isn't worth a crap.
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**edit** The cab I posted is working for me and others, but it isn't working for some as well. So use at you own risk. It hasn't made any noticeable differences on my phone accept the pics are the actual size there suppose to be.

brilliant fix. thanks much!

just thought i'd respond and say i haven't had any mms issues in regards to picture size or blurriness.

touch pro 2 on o2
just had o2 on phone to try to sort this told not supported phone.
but ran the cab tested and works
thank god for xda site
and all the great answers we get

Reg edits worked like a charm on Tilt 2 using Tmobile

User-Agent Rhodium-1.0/arcsoft-mmsua-5.0.0.xx
x-wap-profile http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/Rhodium-1.0.xml
This is where the registry settings are for manila 2.1:
HKLM\Software\Arcsoft\Arcsoft MMS UA\config\mm1\WspHeader
This is where the registry settings are for manila 2.5:
HKLM\Software\Jataayu\MMS\SP

small pics
i used a cab called mmsfix.cab from this forum and it worked

Small MMS Pic FIX for TMobile
See next post.

Small MMS Pic Fix!!!
Ok, here is the fix...see attatched WORD doc. Worked on my TP2 with TMobile. Good luck! Jafo9

New US T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 MMS

Has anyone received an MMS with the newly released (August 12) T-mobile Touch Pro 2 and if so was the photo reduced in size?
If it was not reduced, please provide the registry setting for User Agent and X-Wap-Profile found here: HKLM\Software\Arcsoft\Arcsoft MMS UA\config\mm1\WspHeader.
I have a Touch HD and since T-Mobile doesn't sell this phone, they reduce the photo size to default minimum.

User-Agent Rhodium-1.0/arcsoft-mmsua-5.0.0.xx
x-wap-profile http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/Rhodium-1.0.xml
I am not sure if the size was reduced, but here are the registry keys for T-Mobile.

dallasjim said:
User-Agent Rhodium-1.0/arcsoft-mmsua-5.0.0.xx
x-wap-profile http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/Rhodium-1.0.xml
I am not sure if the size was reduced, but here are the registry keys for T-Mobile.
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Thank you very much. I just found out that a friend bought the Touch Pro 2 yesterday. I'll send him an MMS and see if the photo stays full screen. If so, this will be a solution for small MMS photo size on HTC large display phones using US T-Mobille.

New settings work!
Success! I sent my friend a full screen photo and he received it as sent. I then edited the registry on my phone with the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 data and had him send me a full screen picture back. For the first time since I bought this phone, the MMS photo was received as sent.

cab
can you tell us what settings to use or create a cab file thx

I had to do something like this for the Tilt when i had it on Tmobile. I just used my MDA settings.

thats not helpful at all

heres a cab that'll change them for you.

MMS on Touch pro 2 (euro) with ATT network
does this also work on AT&T network? i recently performed my first flash and i cannot send or receive MMS messages any longer.

xnifex said:
heres a cab that'll change them for you.
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Will this work on the old att TILT as well, I bought the new one TILT 2 and sold my old one to a T-mobile customer , but his MMS wont work at all, he can text , but he cant send/receive pics.

If you want to edit the registry manually, try this:
HKLM - Software - Arcsoft MMS UA - Config - mm1 - WspHeader
Then, edit the key "User-Agent" to:
NokiaN95/11.0.026; Series60/3.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1
Now, edit the key "Profile" to:
http://nds1.nds.nokia.com/uaprof/NN95-1r100.xml

bwnotredame06 said:
Will this work on the old att TILT as well, I bought the new one TILT 2 and sold my old one to a T-mobile customer , but his MMS wont work at all, he can text , but he cant send/receive pics.
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yes this will work with the first Tilt, but he must also enter in the Tmobile MMS server settings.

FYI... I found this fix on the Blackstone forum for those of us using Sense 2.5.
It worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4908688&postcount=19

PGMMA said:
Has anyone received an MMS with the newly released (August 12) T-mobile Touch Pro 2 and if so was the photo reduced in size?
If it was not reduced, please provide the registry setting for User Agent and X-Wap-Profile found here: HKLM\Software\Arcsoft\Arcsoft MMS UA\config\mm1\WspHeader.
I have a Touch HD and since T-Mobile doesn't sell this phone, they reduce the photo size to default minimum.
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the reason it does that on your HD is because tmobiles network dont recognize that phone so it compresses the image alot to what a *crappy* phone can handle. because i doubt that a *crappy* phone can open a 3MP pic

the MMS Fix in my sig will set the T-Mobile MMS server as well as the send/recieve size to 1024KB and the user agent/wap profile settings. It is a must have if you flash custom ROMs and you are on the T-Mobile US network.

Zylograth said:
the MMS Fix in my sig will set the T-Mobile MMS server as well as the send/recieve size to 1024KB and the user agent/wap profile settings. It is a must have if you flash custom ROMs and you are on the T-Mobile US network.
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Will this set the agent/wap in both spots? For 2.1 and 2.5, one is arcsoft the other is htc.
Thanks.

MMS Fixes

So, after seeing way too many posts about it not working, I sacrificed and flashed the stock operator rom and exported the MMS settings that hamper things on a custom rom. Here you all go. I tested it all and it works here! Cheers
What it fixes:
MMS max send size in new message
MMS receive size (issues with the pictures always being shrunk)
How to use:
Extract and import registry file.

How much is the maximum kb u can send? still 300? My mms works fine with a lil edit after flashing custom rom, will try this one out the next time I flash. Thanks

This edits all those sizes and also fixes the super small pictures when you receive them. This is specific to the Rhodium, but I am sure you can use it with the others too.

Any way to get them imported into the registry most editors only support unicode 5 for .reg files? Any incite besides "Use resco explorer" would be greatly appreciated.

hey thanks for this post .. but my problem isnt the size of the mms .. because i cant send or recieve at all. ive gone through all my connections and stuff but i cant get it to work ive googled and searched here and even posted about it but no answers .. noone has had this problem? im using the energy rom its fantasic but this is my only real problem i think its because i have to schange the settings in the arcsorft unfortunately there seems to e noway to access in this rom

Justin241982 said:
Any way to get them imported into the registry most editors only support unicode 5 for .reg files? Any incite besides "Use resco explorer" would be greatly appreciated.
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I just use "task manager" that comes with the Energy roms. It works like a charm.
takeda240 said:
hey thanks for this post .. but my problem isnt the size of the mms .. because i cant send or recieve at all. ive gone through all my connections and stuff but i cant get it to work ive googled and searched here and even posted about it but no answers .. noone has had this problem? im using the energy rom its fantasic but this is my only real problem i think its because i have to schange the settings in the arcsorft unfortunately there seems to e noway to access in this rom
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I am unsure of what you mean. I am on TMOUS and the latest Energy rom has the MMS all fixed when it comes to servers and data connections with the connection setup. I didn't need to change anything in that respect.

Thank you very much that rocks! All kinds of easy!

Cab
Can anyone cab the file? I am having a hard time importing the registry edit.

here you go luna

Thanks! I couldn't figure out how to make a cab. lol

xnifex said:
here you go luna
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Thank you very much

gehzumteufel said:
So, after seeing way too many posts about it not working, I sacrificed and flashed the stock operator rom and exported the MMS settings that hamper things on a custom rom. Here you all go. I tested it all and it works here! Cheers
What it fixes:
MMS max send size in new message
MMS receive size (issues with the pictures always being shrunk)
How to use:
Extract and import registry file.
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The issue i have with my Tilt 2 is that some of the pictures i have on my storage card are tiny when I choose to see a picture from the album. I used to have a Fuze and took some of those pictures with that phone. Will any of this cab's in the thread fix that issue?

It won't fix all ready downloaded pictures. Only new ones.

Why are these MMS images so SMALL!?

I take a picture (1280x1024) with my phone and send it via MMS. It sends. The recipient views a 1280x1024 picture. That person takes a 1280x1024 picture with their phone (Dash, Blackberry, doesn't matter) and I receive something significantly smaller in resolution. W. T. F.

OMG ME TOO! IT IS SOOO FLIPPIN ANNOYING!! WTF!
The image is about 100-275k in size, but when i download it. it becomes 4k....... i mean really now. come on. so annoying!

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thought i was the only one. it drives me crazy. at school all day and all the messed messages of random things from titty and taco tuesday pics to pictures of my sone are ruined. seriously whats the deal? is it just phones with new roms or will the official ones do this as well?

The only thing i can think of doing is going to kavana's rom for 6.1 That's what i am doing right now. I remember it was the only one that didn't screw up MMS.

what photo resolution size do you have selected under mms settings?

i had the biggest rez i could have. but it always showed up as a 4k image size. :/

Any way. I fixed my issue. i just installed Kavana's 6.1 Rom. and boom my MMS nightmare was fixed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374890

Well Ookba's 6.5 ROM blows Kavana's 6.1 ROM so far out of the water that I won't be flashing again just for an image size issue...
I have set the Resolution setting in MMS settings to 1280x1024 and will see what happens.

l0lcats said:
Well Ookba's 6.5 ROM blows Kavana's 6.1 ROM so far out of the water that I won't be flashing again just for an image size issue...
I have set the Resolution setting in MMS settings to 1280x1024 and will see what happens.
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it wouldnt rad my 4gb memory card so thats another no as well. but the resolution settings havent changed anything for me. maybe this may be a good question for Ookba.

I'm surprised no Dash user has jumped in here.. This is an age old problem, and usually found in custom ROMs when the cookers forget to change the registry settings for MMS.
Anyway.. I don't have a Dash, so I don't know what your default setting would be. Ask someone with a working MMS to look at the entries in this registry key (or if you have it working under a different ROM, look it up yourself):
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Arcsoft\ArcSoft MMS UA\Config\mm1\WspHeader
For my Shadow (HTC Juno), the correct settings are
user-agent: Juno-1.0/arcsoft-mmsua-sp-4.0.0.xx
x-wap profile: http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/Juno-1.0.xml
You can try putting this in there too, and I'm pretty sure the pictures will be the right size.

http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/Excal-1.0.xml i
found this online havent testit yet tho

bipinsen said:
I'm surprised no Dash user has jumped in here.. This is an age old problem, and usually found in custom ROMs when the cookers forget to change the registry settings for MMS.
Anyway.. I don't have a Dash, so I don't know what your default setting would be. Ask someone with a working MMS to look at the entries in this registry key (or if you have it working under a different ROM, look it up yourself):
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Arcsoft\ArcSoft MMS UA\Config\mm1\WspHeader
For my Shadow (HTC Juno), the correct settings are
user-agent: Juno-1.0/arcsoft-mmsua-sp-4.0.0.xx
x-wap profile: http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/Juno-1.0.xml
You can try putting this in there too, and I'm pretty sure the pictures will be the right size.
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If this is the case and users know that Kavana is correct then this should fix it?
All it is, is the REG mentioned above from Kavana .cab'd up install to Device Memory and soft reset.
Don't know if will work but worth a shot. "if doesn't work uninstall soft reset and all will be back"

stylez said:
If this is the case and users know that Kavana is correct then this should fix it?
All it is, is the REG mentioned above from Kavana .cab'd up install to Device Memory and soft reset.
Don't know if will work but worth a shot. "if doesn't work uninstall soft reset and all will be back"
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YOU ARE THE MAN!! IT WORKS
you should post it in OOkba's roms post and tell him this worked!!!!!!!!!!! EXCITTED!!! lol

trinidad716 said:
YOU ARE THE MAN!! IT WORKS
you should post it in OOkba's roms post and tell him this worked!!!!!!!!!!! EXCITTED!!! lol
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bipinsen did it, all i did was export .REG and make a .cab
Added to Evo

stylez said:
bipinsen did it, all i did was export .REG and make a .cab
Added to Evo
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haha.. you're welcome guys.. glad i was still checking the forums and was able to provide the help. i've been installing custom roms for years, and keep notes on common problems and how to fix them.

bipinsen/stylez: I will install this and see how it goes. Setting the resolution in the MMS settings did nothing.
I'm assuming trinidad is also using Ookba's 6.5 ROM? If so then I will feel more confident about this.

l0lcats said:
bipinsen/stylez: I will install this and see how it goes. Setting the resolution in the MMS settings did nothing.
I'm assuming trinidad is also using Ookba's 6.5 ROM? If so then I will feel more confident about this.
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Yea im using the newest 3vo on the Tmobile network mms is coming in fine!