Kill Manila/TF3d completely? - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I want my old WM5/6 back. The simple utilitarian menus that work quickly and are not buttered over.
Reminders snooze times
Task bar with separate volumes for ringer and headset
standard notification/text/reminders (not skinned)
The first time I did this (when it was new) I easily found all of the reg edits to fix the look and features.
I recently had to start all over and am having trouble located all of these edits and then got to thinking, if they all run because of manila, why not kill the cause instead of covering it up. If all it does is try to make this pretty at the expense of cpu usage, why not kill it completely. Will WM run as usual? If so, what is the best route?
TIA,
Dan

Go to:
Settings->Today->Items
Then uncheck 'HTC Sense'
That turns it off

That is well known, but does not remove the overlays, it just puts the today screen back and that was the first step of what I already did.
I want to kill the fat finger menus, and all of the overlays.

Dan McBoost said:
That is well known, but does not remove the overlays, it just puts the today screen back and that was the first step of what I already did.
I want to kill the fat finger menus, and all of the overlays.
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You are going to have to provide more information. Which TP 2 do you have, which carrier? Which version of WM? Which ROM?

I like teh butter!

download a custom rom that doesnt have TF3D or Sense cooked into it?

Dan McBoost said:
That is well known, but does not remove the overlays, it just puts the today screen back and that was the first step of what I already did.
I want to kill the fat finger menus, and all of the overlays.
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It may be difficult. I believe that WM6.5 put in the larger menu icons, rather than the old style "start menu". That may be simply a part of the OS. The only fix I've put in is to disable the HTC notifications by changing the registry to disable loading of the HTC .dll, which then loads the WM version. So when I click an icon on the task bar, it actually brings up the stock balloon rather than that all-in-one HTC manager.
But I haven't seen that it is possible to disable the new, larger icons (at least with my ROM).

stevedebi said:
It may be difficult. I believe that WM6.5 put in the larger menu icons, rather than the old style "start menu". That may be simply a part of the OS. The only fix I've put in is to disable the HTC notifications by changing the registry to disable loading of the HTC .dll, which then loads the WM version. So when I click an icon on the task bar, it actually brings up the stock balloon rather than that all-in-one HTC manager.
But I haven't seen that it is possible to disable the new, larger icons (at least with my ROM).
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Yeah I'm pretty sure that Windows stuffed the fat finger-friendly menus in there. Notice how when you kill Manila, a different fat menu is apparent.

I did not upgrade to 6.5 because of those reasons, but luckily my same post on PPCQ was found from the guy that came up with the below on here, heh.
Thanks for the help from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631449
Now I just need to hunt down the fix for the windows based phone edit. My list is all white and I can not see the choices.
Thanks to all.

Dan McBoost said:
I did not upgrade to 6.5 because of those reasons, but luckily my same post on PPCQ was found from the guy that came up with the below on here, heh.
Thanks for the help from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631449
Now I just need to hunt down the fix for the windows based phone edit. My list is all white and I can not see the choices.
Thanks to all.
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Actually, for my personal preference, the only one I really dislike is the HTC Notifications manager. Thanks for the link, however, in case I want to try basic WM...

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Any way to add "recent programs" to the home screen for WM6.1 "sliding panels"?

Any way to add "recent programs" to the home screen for WM6.1 "sliding panels"?
Hey, folks! 1st time post here (I think!)
Anyhow, I upgrade my Dash to the Kavana WM6.1 ROM last week. I *really* like the sliding panels home screen layout. Super useful, if you ask me! I was wondering, though, if anyone knew how to add "Recent Programs" as on of the sliding panel plugins? I've opened the "SlidingPanel.home.xml" file and found the plugins section for the home screen order. It has...
<Plugins Order="CClock;CHome;CAppointments;CWelcomeCenter;CWindowsLive;Settings" />
So...I'm assuming that there might be some plugin like "CRecentPrograms" that I can add. Does anyone know what the plugin would be, or info on how to get the Recent Programs in there, if possible?
Thanks!
Yip
Unfortunately, there's nothing like that available right now. The next best thing is creating a panel with your most used applications. Search around here a little bit and you'll find it.
That is a good idea, however. Does anyone know how the MRU lists works? where it is stored, how it is called? Perhaps we could cobble it together.
Profezza said:
That is a good idea, however. Does anyone know how the MRU lists works? where it is stored, how it is called? Perhaps we could cobble it together.
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I think its stored in the registry under the shell - I will look for the key later
I'd agree that this would be nice to have. Really the only thing I miss about WM6.0. I'll poke around and see if I can find it as well.
The data is stored under HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Shell\StartMRU
I'm not sure what to do with it from there though as far as creating a panel/plugin for it. If anyone could point me in a direction I'm willing to try to do it.
I would love to have this plug-in as well.
You do realize that depending on where you try and put that in the home screen, your one button click away from your recent programs list in wm6.1? Otherwise you'd be 4 to 5 clicks if you added a panel to the home screen.
flyboy009 said:
You do realize that depending on where you try and put that in the home screen, your one button click away from your recent programs list in wm6.1? Otherwise you'd be 4 to 5 clicks if you added a panel to the home screen.
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That's true, of course, but it's what I prefer. I had the "Recent Programs" on my home screen in WM5.0 and WM6.0, and would like it back while still keeping the *wonderful* sliding panels UI.
Also, I would really prefer to have "All Programs" be the default when I hit the Start menu button. I know I can do that now, but then I lost the Recent Programs feature altogether.
Someone raised a good point, though: is there a way to create a home screen "panel" that features a handful of links to programs that I specify? That might actually be better, in my case.
rchamberlin said:
The data is stored under HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Shell\StartMRU
I'm not sure what to do with it from there though as far as creating a panel/plugin for it. If anyone could point me in a direction I'm willing to try to do it.
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I would try too if I knew where to get info on the new plugin system (the CHome thingy). Does anyone know? I can't find any doccos
MRU is one click away in 6.1 lol
Mikey1022 said:
MRU is one click away in 6.1 lol
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Thank you, that's been mentioned before in this thread. It could also be one click away on the home screen, depending on where the panel is located. At worst, you wouldn't have to use it.
IMO, it's not that much different than having the CLinks on there, except instead of it being static, it's dynamic. I think it's worthwhile to have on the home screen if possible.
yipcanjo said:
Someone raised a good point, though: is there a way to create a home screen "panel" that features a handful of links to programs that I specify? That might actually be better, in my case.
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yipcanjo said:
Also, I would really prefer to have "All Programs" be the default when I hit the Start menu button. I know I can do that now, but then I lost the Recent Programs feature altogether.
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I'm not fussed about the recent programs how do I get All Programs come up when I hit the Start Menu Button?
nevermind I'm an idiot.

Program Launcher with multiple pages

Hi folks,
I'm looking for an programm launcher like the programs tab in TF3D, but I'd like to have multiple pages, as the 24 places in the tab are way to few.
Else I want to assign it to an hardware key, so I need an application, that is not integrated in TF3D.
Does anyone know a good app for this purpose ?
I guess someone already made something like that, but google and the forum search didn't bring it up.
Sounds like a job for Wisbar Advanced Desktop, I have 8 tabs on the main screen, 20 more fading in with one finger gesture, or configure a mainscreen tab to directly open a launcher page with 20 tabs per page, where tabs can also be a Inbox, URL or shortcut to opening a program with a given file. Then switch between unlimited launcher pages with one finger gesture per page.
^^ can you please tell me what part of wishbar advance i have to activate to make my screen look like that??
Look at MortScript and Mort Buttons You can add the buttons to start menu, Today screen or to the TF3D Programs page. each button has a full page or even multi-pages you can add apps, commands or scripts to. Really handy!
Psygnosis84 said:
^^ can you please tell me what part of wishbar advance i have to activate to make my screen look like that??
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Its not Wisbar Advance (Task), but Wisbar Advance Desktop
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products/pocketpc/WisBarAdvanceDesktop/
Then you need to install Sergej's free Blackberry Theme to the themes folder of WAD, and activate it as your default portrait mode theme.
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=93399&postcount=11
The earth background pic is attached here
that looks really nice ... but how does is look in landscape mode? does it support landscape? if yes, i'll give it a try
Dont use landscape, but the program differentiates between those two modes, so you could just re-arrange the dock and tabs to fit your landscape preferences. For me the key feature was to be able to show unlimited appointments on my main screen.
already tried yota center?
Me I use UltimateLaunch that I looove with Yota
See Screen Caps
Lucas0511 said:
Sounds like a job for Wisbar Advanced Desktop, I have 8 tabs on the main screen, 20 more fading in with one finger gesture, or configure a mainscreen tab to directly open a launcher page with 20 tabs per page, where tabs can also be a Inbox, URL or shortcut to opening a program with a given file. Then switch between unlimited launcher pages with one finger gesture per page.
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hi Lucas,
the first image you attached is your today screen? we can set wisbar advanced dekstop as our today screen?
Yes indeed, but as a today screen where you have full control of what to put on it!
Lucas0511 said:
Yes indeed, but as a today screen where you have full control of what to put on it!
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how to set the WAD as today screen? by disable the TF3D only?
last time i did try WAD, but, i didn't set it as today screen, i need to launch it as other program to get WAD work.
so, everytime you soft reset or wake up your HD, you will see WAD in your today screen?
Just disabled TF3D, started WAD installation, and WAD came up as today screen automatically. Yes, WAD is full today screen, but you can choose if you want to keep the Start and taskbar on the top of the screen, or have it disappear. Most standard Today plugins work from inside the WAD today screen, too.
Lucas0511 said:
Just disabled TF3D, started WAD installation, and WAD came up as today screen automatically. Yes, WAD is full today screen, but you can choose if you want to keep the Start and taskbar on the top of the screen, or have it disappear. Most standard Today plugins work from inside the WAD today screen, too.
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thanks a lot Lucas, i will try.
Thanks for the ideas.
I'm already using Yota Center and its a nice program.
The only thing is that I'd like to have more pages, cause 24 places is too few.
I'll try Mort Buttons, looks interesting though.
have you tried launchmanager ? it's not free though ...
http://www.fantasticbytes.com/products/launchmanager
Lucas0511 said:
Its not Wisbar Advance (Task), but Wisbar Advance Desktop
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products/pocketpc/WisBarAdvanceDesktop/
Then you need to install Sergej's free Blackberry Theme to the themes folder of WAD, and activate it as your default portrait mode theme.
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=93399&postcount=11
The earth background pic is attached here
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Thanks just one more question. When launching the Music player or Photo Viewer etc, are they the normal HTC ones or are they customized now?
Are they still easy to use?
Also does all your programs work normally? And if you don't like the WAD, you can easily delete it?
Psygnosis84 said:
Thanks just one more question. When launching the Music player or Photo Viewer etc, are they the normal HTC ones or are they customized now?
Are they still easy to use?
Also does all your programs work normally? And if you don't like the WAD, you can easily delete it?
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No, they will not be the HTC apps embedded in TF3D. You will set up each icon to open up your own apps. I haven't heard of anyone being able to use the HTC player or album yet as stand alone apps.
Yes they are very easy to use!
WAD will not affect the way your programs run. It is simply a launcher program (one of the best that I've seen yet).
Yes, you can easily uninstall WAD by going to remove programs and uninstalling it from there...although I have a feeling you won't want to after you get the feel for what it can do to your today screen!
Thanks that was a great explanation
just one more question for example do you mean it won't have a built mp3 player or something like that but you have to download a 3rd party one and assign it?
EDIT: I just bought it and installed the Blueberry theme but doesn't show up properly, i wonder why. I'm missing the clock, the calender and whenever i press the box on the right side, a empty grey box opens.. weird.
EDIT: Fixed it up by selecting Wishbar Desktop rather than HD BlueBerry, weird. some parts are still German even after applying eng buttons.
Psygnosis84 said:
Thanks that was a great explanation
just one more question for example do you mean it won't have a built mp3 player or something like that but you have to download a 3rd party one and assign it?
EDIT: I just bought it and installed the Blueberry theme but doesn't show up properly, i wonder why. I'm missing the clock, the calender and whenever i press the box on the right side, a empty grey box opens.. weird.
EDIT: Fixed it up by selecting Wishbar Desktop rather than HD BlueBerry, weird. some parts are still German even after applying eng buttons.
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You can set it up to use Windows Media player if you want to, otherwise a third party app is what you will need. CorePlayer or PocketPlayer are a couple to check out.
I haven't installed the Blackberry theme for WAD yet but I do no if you don't have the icons installed in the correct places the theme will not show properly. I ran into this same problem when installing Mallmans Vista theme. As soon as I went back and followed his instructions perfectly, the theme was correctly displayed.
I'm not familiar with setting up different languages so I'm afraid I won't be of any help to you there. You may check out the Lakeridge WAD forum for that.
Here is how I have my WAD looking right now, a tweaked version of Mallmans Vista theme!

Old start menu, old programs tab with 4 icons plus 4 icon program launcher!!

All right guys for those who want to have the old start menu back and want the old programs tab with 4 icons plus the 4 icon programs launcher then intsall the attached cabs (black or white font) which does it all for you, including the registry tweak to enable the old start menu, so enjoy;-)
P.S. currently in landscape mode it doesn't work so well so will try to fix this and post updated cabs here!
Full credit goes to showaco for the hack and Aussiebum for WVGA conversion!Many thanks guys! look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487192
I've just put everything in one easy install cab including registry tweak, tested on Dutty's v2.6 xtreme rom but can't see why it should not work on other rhodium based rom's with the new start menu!
N.B. this tweak is only for Rhodium based cooked roms with new start menu, so may or may not work with other based roms!!
Update 10/04/09: Added 3 Icons programs tabs cabs for those who prefer the standard 3 icons row programs tab rather then the 4 icons version!
Update 18/04/09: Looks like sgilesuk has beaten me to it with a version for those who prefer to keep the new start menu but would like to have 4 icons all programs launcher look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505400 nice work sgilesuk thanks
Hi gfreek, I just like to have the icons with titles in the PROGRAM tab. How can I do this?
kdu said:
Hi gfreek, I just like to have the icons with titles in the PROGRAM tab. How can I do this?
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If you mean just to have the icons with titles but without the tiles background for programs tab then the simple answer for the moment is NO sorry!!
Please bare with me as I've only just started looking into this hack and trust me it's not as simple as it looks! to do this hack one needs modify the actual value's and scripts within the manila files and that's very time consuming with a lot of trail and error!! so kudos goes to both showaco for the hack, it's his baby and aussiebum for the WVGA conversion!
I'm just trying get my head around this and do plan to do several other tweaks, lets see if I have ample time this easter weekend I'll try look into your request and see if it's possible!
Would love : only the 4 icons all program ...
I don't like the rest !
Hi,
I tried to fix this once before with showaco, but it didn't quite worked out. I'm surprised it's working for you, but my Touch HD seems to mess up the tiles...
HJ200 said:
Hi,
I tried to fix this once before with showaco, but it didn't quite worked out. I'm surprised it's working for you, but my Touch HD seems to mess up the tiles...
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ohh thats messed up!! what rom are you using? I know the cabs I've posted and tweaked here do work well with rhodium based roms with the new start menu.
I've got the same thing, all icons squashed up into the top 3rd and all bunched up
I'm using onkolog Lite Rom
n1ck75 said:
I've got the same thing, all icons squashed up into the top 3rd and all bunched up
I'm using onkolog Lite Rom
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Like I said guys this tweak is only for Rhodium based cooked roms with new start menu, so may or may not work with other based roms!!
If I have some ample free time this easter weekend I will be looking into this issue to see if it can be more compatible with other roms!
thanks for share.I'm looking for it.
Hello, it is possible to disable the old start menu?
Which registry tweak is this?
Thank you!
I installed the black version. What a mess! All icons in three lines.... I don't know how many rows.
nice and is there a way to get rid of the home, people, calender, settings. thanks in advance.
skinniebone said:
nice and is there a way to get rid of the home, people, calender, settings. thanks in advance.
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If you are refering to the 4 locked icons (Home, Contacts, Calendar, Settings) in the programs menu then they can be unlocked with some registry settings:
e.g.
For the HOME button:
Change the following value
HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Program Launcher\0\IsReadOnly\1 <--(DWORD Data, Dec)
from 1 to 0 to unlock.
The same apply to the other 3 locked buttons after that do soft reset for the changes to take effect
OKAY!!!
Great news!!! i sticked with dutty v2.1 because of the ****ty start menu.
Will flash this weekend to v2.6 again with your cab.
is it a possibility to have the new dutty start menu and this new programs tab working at the same time?
Thank you. I am trying.
Hey gfreek, when I initially flashed dutty's 2.6, I downloaded these cabs from that ROMs thread.
After installing, I encountered a problem whereby once you had scrolled to the program's tab, the soft key settings specific to the programs tab would stick i.e. not change when you went to another tab so if you went to the home tab, the soft keys would remain on 'All programs' and the other one (which I now can't remember off hand). The only way to fix was to soft reset and the problem would simply reoccur if you clicked on the programs tab
I also couldn't uninstall these cabs and had to perform a hard reset.
If you could sort out these issues, I will gladly revert back to the old start menu with your method.
Quad said:
Hey gfreek, when I initially flashed dutty's 2.6, I downloaded these cabs from that ROMs thread.
After installing, I encountered a problem whereby once you had scrolled to the program's tab, the soft key settings specific to the programs tab would stick i.e. not change when you went to another tab so if you went to the home tab, the soft keys would remain on 'All programs' and the other one (which I now can't remember off hand). The only way to fix was to soft reset and the problem would simply reoccur if you clicked on the programs tab
I also couldn't uninstall these cabs and had to perform a hard reset.
If you could sort out these issues, I will gladly revert back to the old start menu with your method.
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Sorry to hear that Quad! I'm actually currently using dutty's v2.6 and don't have this issue not sure why you getting this and why you cannot uninstall!! I will look into this
P.S. for all those who have put in request for it to work with inconjunction with the new start menu I'am looking into this aswell other tweaks so please bare with me I will be posting updates hopefully soon
thank god ^^
gfreek said:
Sorry to hear that Quad! I'm actually currently using dutty's v2.6 and don't have this issue not sure why you getting this and why you cannot uninstall!! I will look into this
P.S. for all those who have put in request for it to work with inconjunction with the new start menu I'am looking into this aswell other tweaks so please bare with me I will be posting updates hopefully soon
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Hi, I've got the same problem as Quad, on Dutty's 2.6 rom.
But thanks for what you're doing.

[APP] Theme Switcher Version 1.6 [2 Feb 2010]

I couldnt find an app so I wrote one.
This small app will give you the option to Save your current Settings or rather Mods to Manila/Sence or whatever you call it.
Im no good at graphics so I need someone to give me ideas on how to make it look better.
It will scan the windows folder for all *manila files that has a different date to the original Rom installation. It will take all these files and backup them to a specified folder. So when you flash and you had special clocks,icons,sliders, etc etc you can simply restore it instead of having to reapply all these custom items.
O yes please install on the Storage Card. Might waste too much space on the Internal memory.
I tested it and seems ok but all apps has bugs so please be nice. Leme know if any body wants the source code. Written in C# VS2008
Version 1.1
Please uninstall the old version. I changed the name to Theme Switcher so it will install into a different folder. You can just move the Backup Folder Across. Got some nice graphics and changed the wallpaper. The Config.txt file have some settings in it. Have a look.
Also Any files listed in extrafiles.txt will be backed up and restored as well so one can easily backup the current wallpaper etc
Version 1.4
Just added an Image so if you add a file by the name of "theme.jpg" in the folder where its backed up to it will show the image before you can apply it
Im sorry I re Uploaded the Cab File forgot to include the txt files.
If the Application Icon didnt show in the start menu its been fixed as well. Please show me some screen shots on a diamond
Version 1.5
Rebuild Cab file
- Icon Shows correctly
- All files included
- Added option to Exit without refreshing TF3D
Version 1.6
- Small Graphical changes
- Added following entries to extrafiles.txt which should backup the taskbar etc as well:
top.png
bottom.png
hdwall_softkeybar.png
hdwall_taskbar.png
homebackground.img
BT Discoverable.bmp
BT On Mode.bmp
BT Stereo headset.bmp
GPS-icon Mask.bmp
GPS-icon.bmp
HTCVolumeControl.dll
MMSRes_480x800.dll
outres.192.dll
phcanOverbmp.dll
shellres.192.dll
Stereo headset.bmp
tapres.192.dll
notify.dll.0409.mui
notify.dll.040C.mui
CDMA_RSSI_PPC.dll
WLMMessengerResources.192.dll
Stereo headset Mask.bmp
tshres.192.dll
PictureMailRes.dll
BT Stereo headset Mask.bmp
BT Discoverable Mask.bmp
BT On Mode Mask.bmp
shellres.192.dll.0409.mui
VoiceCmdRes_PPC.dll
htcStartMenuService.dll
LargeTitleBar.dll
NotificationManager.dll
Spare
Just a spare post incase of sumting
Move
Can a Mod please move this thread to Software development please
THANK YOU
Grumps, great job I love this app. Simple and works great.
I will be using it, not only as a theme saver, but also as a theme changer.
I just tried it to switch themes and it worked great.
I haven't used it much yet, so I don't have much feedback.
The only thing that I have come across that needs fixing is that the drop down list for the restore saved theme.
It is hidden behind the restore saved theme button.
Everything else works great.
Thank you so much.
Wouldnt i be nice to save phcanover & the other dlls with icons, too?
Seems to be a great app that will save me a lot oft time,
thx³
Greetz
Boris
howzeet
Phonatic said:
Grumps, great job I love this app. Simple and works great.
I will be using it, not only as a theme saver, but also as a theme changer.
I just tried it to switch themes and it worked great.
I haven't used it much yet, so I don't have much feedback.
The only thing that I have come across that needs fixing is that the drop down list for the restore saved theme.
It is hidden behind the restore saved theme button.
Everything else works great.
Thank you so much.
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what phone did u try it on . i made it on my rhodium. if its a vga device ill fix it. have a diamond as well that ill try it on
borisku said:
Wouldnt i be nice to save phcanover & the other dlls with icons, too?
Seems to be a great app that will save me a lot oft time,
thx³
Greetz
Boris
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i can do that if you can gimme a list of the files. or maybe i can create a text file and one can list all the files in there that it should include in the backup? does anybody know which files contain the wallpaper and the top and bottom bar. guess its called the taskbar. the ones thats part of the top icons and bottom buttons. then it could be a complete theme changer. i use it as that as well
Grumps, thanks for the app. I believe that I am having the same condition that Phonatic describes. I have a Rhodium with stock rom, manilla 2.1.
But that shouldn't matter, should it?
My screenshot has differences from yours, aside from the bottom bar difference between your sense and my manilla.
Mine has the top task bar and less space between the drop-down list and the "restore saved theme" button.
Also mine has nicer looking buttons.
Do I have the wrong version?
When you have more items in your drop down list, does your list stay above the button?
I still am using it. I just use my arrow down/up to make my selection.
Grumps, as a suggestion to fix the problem that I have,
would it be easier to adjust the layout?, than to change the drop down to render in front of the buttons.
Something like this.
Also, since you asked for graphic suggestions, what do you think about making all the buttons have the same look.
Another suggestion is for your startup.jpg.
Instead of your screenshot, which is very nice, how about something that displays the program name and authored-by info.
With a "tap screen to proceed" kinda instruction placed somewhere.
Here are quick mock-ups of the idea that I am trying to convey.
I'm actually using it for your app, they look good on my Rhodium, much better than this screen shot.
I used screenshots from this site to make these mock-ups. Thanks to the OPs.
If anyone minds that I used their image, please let me know and I will replace it.
Anyway, just some food for thought.
Thanks again for the great app, Tilt
This awesome and such a time saver, thank you so much! One thing is I can not delete theme i have saved, I store on storage card but it says I can not delete it is denied other than that it is exactly what I have been looking [email protected]
Thank you for this program!
Tilt ommarow said:
Grumps, as a suggestion to fix the problem that I have,
would it be easier to adjust the layout?, than to change the drop down to render in front of the buttons.
Something like this.
Also, since you asked for graphic suggestions, what do you think about making all the buttons have the same look.
Another suggestion is for your startup.jpg.
Instead of your screenshot, which is very nice, how about something that displays the program name and authored-by info.
With a "tap screen to proceed" kinda instruction placed somewhere.
Here are quick mock-ups of the idea that I am trying to convey.
I'm actually using it for your app, they look good on my Rhodium, much better than this screen shot.
I used screenshots from this site to make these mock-ups. Thanks to the OPs.
If anyone minds that I used their image, please let me know and I will replace it.
Anyway, just some food for thought.
Thanks again for the great app, Tilt
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Wow I like this. Think its a good idea. Maybe I should change the Name to Them Switcher. Dont you wanna do the images for me with the name Theme switcher? I dont know quote how to do all this but ill try and make graphics work as button thingys. Leme see what I can do.
Tilt ommarow said:
Grumps, thanks for the app. I believe that I am having the same condition that Phonatic describes. I have a Rhodium with stock rom, manilla 2.1.
But that shouldn't matter, should it?
My screenshot has differences from yours, aside from the bottom bar difference between your sense and my manilla.
Mine has the top task bar and less space between the drop-down list and the "restore saved theme" button.
Also mine has nicer looking buttons.
Do I have the wrong version?
When you have more items in your drop down list, does your list stay above the button?
I still am using it. I just use my arrow down/up to make my selection.
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Cool ill fix this
Thanks
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Cool ill fix this
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I will patiently wait for the fix. It still works as is.
By the way I like the taskbar showing on top.
Would you please do me the honor of putting this Startup.jpg on your Rhodium.
I just want you to see how it looks on the phone.
The screenshot just doesn't do it justice.
@anyone that wants to see how this looks on the phone, just right click on the image,
save as Startup.jpg and use it to replace the one in your phones Theme Saver folder.
Tilt ommarow said:
I will patiently wait for the fix. It still works as is.
By the way I like the taskbar showing on top.
Would you please do me the honor of putting this Startup.jpg on your Rhodium.
I just want you to see how it looks on the phone.
The screenshot just doesn't do it justice.
@anyone that wants to see how this looks on the phone, just right click on the image,
save as Startup.jpg and use it to replace the one in your phones Theme Saver folder.
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Ihave and I am using it. Im batteling to make it look right on Windows 6.5 and 6.5.3 because of the topbar being smaller and bigger. Can you also give me one without any writing eg theme switcher and save/restore/switch and press any key. Trying to use it as a background image for the app and moving the controls to the menu items
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Ihave and I am using it. Im batteling to make it look right on Windows 6.5 and 6.5.3 because of the topbar being smaller and bigger. Can you also give me one without any writing eg theme switcher and save/restore/switch and press any key. Trying to use it as a background image for the app and moving the controls to the menu items
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I will alter it however you like.
I have time tommorow. For now I must get 3hours sleep before I go to work.
Here is a background.
Goodnight, Tilt ommarow
Tilt ommarow said:
I will alter it however you like.
I have time tommorow. For now I must get 3hours sleep before I go to work.
Here is a background.
Goodnight, Tilt ommarow
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You got a private message. Thanx for the image
What do you think of these buttons?
Here's a template that I made for you.The dimensions are exact to the current layout.
If you were to replace the current background with this, it would be functional.
Some graphics should be added, especialy to brighten the lower section.
The size of the top button looks off, I suggest either make it bigger to match
(which would look crowded with the task bar, unless you lower everything),
or I can change it into a text box or no box just text.
Do you need text added, or is the text part of the app?
Anyway, just let me know your preferences ie graphics, text, color, button style etc., and I will adapt accordingly.
Tilt ommarow said:
Here's a template that I made for you.The dimensions are exact to the current layout.
If you were to replace the current background with this, it would be functional.
Some graphics should be added, especialy to brighten the lower section.
The size of the top button looks off, I suggest either make it bigger to match
(which would look crowded with the task bar, unless you lower everything),
or I can change it into a text box or no box just text.
Do you need text added, or is the text part of the app?
Anyway, just let me know your preferences ie graphics, text, color, button style etc., and I will adapt accordingly.
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This looks very nice. The reason why there is such a big gap at the bottom is that im not sure if it will all fit on a vga device. The buttons look nice. I also cant use it as is because on different device with different os's like 6.1 6.5 6.5.3 the image moves slightly up and down. so you will have to include the images with the text on it, as individual images and they have to be square cause i dont know how to program transparency as yet. Hope it would be possible. Thanx soo much for the effort so far It looks awesome
Grumps said:
This looks very nice. The reason why there is such a big gap at the bottom is that im not sure if it will all fit on a vga device. The buttons look nice. I also cant use it as is because on different device with different os's like 6.1 6.5 6.5.3 the image moves slightly up and down. so you will have to include the images with the text on it, as individual images and they have to be square cause i dont know how to program transparency as yet. Hope it would be possible. Thanx soo much for the effort so far It looks awesome
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Grumps, I just read your pm. Gimme a minute. I think I have something for you.
Thanks for the info above.
As I understand it, you need buttons with text and the background seperate.
I am uploading a file for you. Please let me know how these work for you.View attachment Grumps.zip

WM 6.5 ROM queries/problems

Yesterday I installed HTC ROM upgrade and unbeknownst to me installed WM 6.5. It does not seema s bad as some here make out but I have come across a couple of irritation stumbling blocks that I am sure someone here can resolve for me. How the hell do I get into basic wondows/phone settings such as backlight, power settings etc. Is there a way to customise what used to be called the Today screen, now the Home screen I suppose, beyond what little is available on the Home screen menu. In the old 6.1 version I had until yesterday when Touch Flo didn't have a settings option you were dropped back into windows settings, can't find a way to do this now. BTW does Manila = Touch Fl0 3D and is Sense an updated version of the same?
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Yesterday I installed HTC ROM upgrade and unbeknownst to me installed WM 6.5. It does not seema s bad as some here make out but I have come across a couple of irritation stumbling blocks that I am sure someone here can resolve for me. How the hell do I get into basic wondows/phone settings such as backlight, power settings etc. Is there a way to customise what used to be called the Today screen, now the Home screen I suppose, beyond what little is available on the Home screen menu. In the old 6.1 version I had until yesterday when Touch Flo didn't have a settings option you were dropped back into windows settings, can't find a way to do this now. BTW does Manila = Touch Fl0 3D and is Sense an updated version of the same?
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ok, im figuring u have the wm 6.5 now. yes manila is touchflo, and sense is just the newest UI. touchflo3d is a UI and Sense is a UI. if u have touchflo3d and want to change today screen settings(which is limited with out modding) go to ur start menu. then settings. then go today screen. u can change your themes on appearance tabs. if u want windows default today screen, click on the items tab on the bottom of same screen. then u can uncheck touchflo and check windows default. its a more basic setup. if u really wanna modify ur today screen/tf3d, check out the Themes and apps thread here in Rhodium. theres all sorts of tweaks to make ur tf3d look nuthin like it does now. Like transparent sliders, new icons, new taskbar, new transparent clocks, and it goes on and on.
i know it can seem confusing with all the icons trying to find ur main system settings. For the main ones, press start menu. then go settings. then go to system. u will be able to modify backlight/power settings and more. these are the main windows mobile settings. U also have a settings tab in tf3d that lets u change some things in system and tf3d but not as much or detailed like main system settings. try it out
Hi Jeremy.
In the 6.5 ROM you can find all the old regular WM settings by just sliding to the "settings" tab in Sense, and clicking the bottom-left soft key, "All Settings". Yes it's an extra click, and yes it gets annoying.
Manila is the underlying operating name for HTC's custom UI. First version was TouchFlo, then TouchFLO3/TF3D (which you just came off of), then Sense. All of those are just "generations" of Manila.
jbevan said:
Yesterday I installed HTC ROM upgrade and unbeknownst to me installed WM 6.5. It does not seema s bad as some here make out but I have come across a couple of irritation stumbling blocks that I am sure someone here can resolve for me. How the hell do I get into basic wondows/phone settings such as backlight, power settings etc. Is there a way to customise what used to be called the Today screen, now the Home screen I suppose, beyond what little is available on the Home screen menu. In the old 6.1 version I had until yesterday when Touch Flo didn't have a settings option you were dropped back into windows settings, can't find a way to do this now. BTW does Manila = Touch Fl0 3D and is Sense an updated version of the same?
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The fix is noted above, but I would recommend burning a custom ROM. I'm using the Energy ROM, and in that version the Settings goes to the WM settings rather than the Sense Settings tab. Plus, these ROMs can have a lot of nice customized programs already burned in.
I just downloaded and installed Easy Today Launcher on my WM Prof 6.1 and I am really happy with it. It allow you to put shortcuts on your today screen. I have TF3D turned off, so no idea how it works with that. The Easy Today Launcher is free and super easy to use.
thats right...in that tab theres the all settings to...a lil faster..lol
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Hi Jeremy.
In the 6.5 ROM you can find all the old regular WM settings by just sliding to the "settings" tab in Sense, and clicking the bottom-left soft key, "All Settings". Yes it's an extra click, and yes it gets annoying.
Manila is the underlying operating name for HTC's custom UI. First version was TouchFlo, then TouchFLO3/TF3D (which you just came off of), then Sense. All of those are just "generations" of Manila.
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Hi. Thanks for explaining the Manila naming thing.
Unfortunately, for some reason, I do not have the All Settings soft key, its what I was looking for - the same option as in 6.1 with TF3D. Any ideas? Maybe I shoud just flash with the Energy custom ROM and be done with it!
Hello to Austin Texas btw from sunny north london!
Jeremy
I have found the All Settings option, it was under the Menu soft key! Anyway I have taken the good advice of stevedebi and installed the Energy custom ROM, which was a cinch to install and looks fanatsts so far. A happy man here!

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