It seems liks Google started using the new market. What do you guys think about it? I kinda like it
I downloaded the apk and tbh its well better than the old one graphically. The widget section is welcomed and the overall look is just great
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I uninstalled the updates (installed 2.2.6 APK), shut down, powered on my phone, checked the market and it updated itself automagically to 2.2.7.
It looks a bit nicer than the old one, although part of me misses the tabs - it works more fluidly than before - haven't had any downloads crash out on me either yet which is a good sign.
how do you get the new market? i dont see any updates on my desire running on cm 6.1.0
One day you'll wake up and it's there. No visible updates, just Google magic.
I just got it today. When I open the market apps it there already. The UI looks good.
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Downloads and installations are also a bit quicker which is nice.
edwinlee90 said:
how do you get the new market? i dont see any updates on my desire running on cm 6.1.0
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Lothaen said:
I uninstalled the updates (installed 2.2.6 APK), shut down, powered on my phone, checked the market and it updated itself automagically to 2.2.7.
It looks a bit nicer than the old one, although part of me misses the tabs - it works more fluidly than before - haven't had any downloads crash out on me either yet which is a good sign.
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or find an APK for it... i.e. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877330
More to the point, how do I get rid of it.
Using appbrain I can uninstall the market and briefly use the old one, until it updates itself again later.
And I can't believe google just added some eye candy, but the search function is still rubbish and there aren't any filters - tsk tsk.
Kermode said:
More to the point, how do I get rid of it.
Using appbrain I can uninstall the market and briefly use the old one, until it updates itself again later.
And I can't believe google just added some eye candy, but the search function is still rubbish and there aren't any filters - tsk tsk.
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I guess you could try uninstalling (from manage applications) and then try and find an old APK for the old market - that might stop updating itself
Kermode said:
More to the point, how do I get rid of it.
Using appbrain I can uninstall the market and briefly use the old one, until it updates itself again later.
And I can't believe google just added some eye candy, but the search function is still rubbish and there aren't any filters - tsk tsk.
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I wouldn't mind, except there's a big bug (on my Desire - Orange uk). Whenever my phone runs out of battery and I charge it and go to the market, then click on 'my apps' it only shows about a third of them. So I have no idea if I have any updates on the missing ones. The only way I've resolved this is to go into settings/applications and 'uninstall updates' on the marketplace. Briefly the old market comes back before being replaced by the new one, and all my apps are then visible in the market until the next time the power runs out. Very lame.
poldie said:
I wouldn't mind, except there's a big bug (on my Desire - Orange uk). Whenever my phone runs out of battery and I charge it and go to the market, then click on 'my apps' it only shows about a third of them. So I have no idea if I have any updates on the missing ones. The only way I've resolved this is to go into settings/applications and 'uninstall updates' on the marketplace. Briefly the old market comes back before being replaced by the new one, and all my apps are then visible in the market until the next time the power runs out. Very lame.
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try clearing the data (and cache - why not) on the market - go back into it accept the terms and conditions, then let the apps refresh itself.
works for me
Lothaen said:
try clearing the data (and cache - why not) on the market - go back into it accept the terms and conditions, then let the apps refresh itself.
works for me
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Doesn't work for me.
Also, I don't think I've had any updates for any apps since the new market came out. I'm hoping this is a coincidence and that Google tested at least that bit.
I have had updates with apps - not many but some since updating to the new market.
not sure why you aren't getting the update - maybe its phasing across handsets in some sort of random order...?
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or find an APK for it... i.e. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877330
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right now im using cyanogen mod 6.1 which doenst have the new market. is it possible for it to automatically update to the newer market even though im running a custom rom? or would i need to download the apk for it and manually update it myself?
I just rooted my dhd and i noticed that my market account shows how installed all my old applications. Is possible to update the status of the market with the only apps actually installed?
I have the same issue. I installed some applications back when they did all the 10p apps, and some of them weren't very good. They still appear in my market as "not installed".
Not a major problem but it's just one of those small things in life that shouldn't bother me but does lol
Those app will remain there as you now own those apps as you have paid for them, i think what the OP is meaning, there are free apps that show in the market under your settings that you no longer have installed and have not had them installed for a long time but they still show in the market
uninstall the app
Open the market
Press the menu button, settings, remove search history
This only works on non paid for apps.
Only other way is to set up a new google account
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I discovered that Titanium Backup provides an interesting function. You can disassociate all your apps from market.
There is one app I own that keeps coming up with updates, however this update upgrades to the "new generation" of the app where you need to pay extra for the features included in the current version.
So now whenever I am notified by Google market about updates I have to pay special attention not to select this app for updates.
I would like to disable updates for this specific application or, if this is not possible, just make an update for this application fail.
I own full versions of Titanium backup and Root Explorer. Phone is rooted.
What I was thinking about was to make executable for this app read-only (hoping this will cause attempted updates to fail).
Use TB to break the market link. That should stop it.
...sorry...I was on the phone...
TBPro Detach from Market stopped working for me at a past update to Google Play Store. Market Fixer has been working for me since. I have three apps that either a bug was introduced or a feature was dropped so I contacted the Dev and then block updates. A smart addition to Play Store would be the ability to UPDATE ALL with selected apps check marked as Do Not Update.
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Inexplicable autonomous app update behavior when plugged in & wifi on. A real puzzle.
Facts:
1) Two phones, Pixel 3 and 3 XL, latest patches. Both rooted, running ElementalX and Magisk. Both have same apps installed and settings.
2) Playstore "Auto-update" is disabled, set to "Don't auto-update apps".
3) Play Protect is fully disabled.
4) TiBu has no scheduled jobs
5) No threat/system scanner running
Behavior background:
1) Started noticing a few months ago (so not a patch update issue).
2) Happens only when phone is charging and wifi on (I have wifi set to turn on when plugged in, I have not isolated whether it is caused by one or the other, or both).
3) Seems to happen around/between 10:20 PM and 11:20 PM PST, based on file timestamp.
4) Does not happen every night. I charge the phone (therefore wifi turns on during charge) every night). I have not been able to find a pattern.
The strange behavior I cannot explain:
1) When it happens, a few (can be 1, 2, or 5) apps are found to have been updated on their own.
2) However, these apps are not shown updated in the Playstore and their version remained the same.
3) When I go to data/app, these apps look like they are updated based on time/date stamp (from the night before).
4) However, their version number has not changed, Playstore does not show a recent update.
5) It does not matter when the app was last truly updated or installed. Even disabled app will get this "ghost re-install/update". Apps seem to be picked randomly.
In sum, I find a few apps that get randomly self-updated, but they were really not updated. The version has changed and Playstore does not know anything about it (not on update list). Also, version has not changed. In fact, though, their timestamp show that it was updated.
Here is the kicker--I see the behavior in both phones. AND, they are the same (at least about the same list of) apps that get the "ghost update". If I don't plug in one phone to charge (and wifi not on), that phone does not get the update until the next time it is plugged in.
W-T-F???
What are the apps? Is it always the same ones?
Seemingly random apps, both user-installed and system (e.g., Chrome, Data Transfer Tool). I have not been able to detect a pattern on which app gets this ghost update. I started noticing this late December, best guess.
I almost don't want to even bring this issue back up since I haven't noticed it in a couple of months. I was noticing it a lot on all 6 of my devices (including Pixel 3XL and Pixel 3) because I would go to Titanium Backup and see apps showing as due for backup of a new version. Nothing showed in Play Store, and the App description on Play showed the same version as before with the old last updated date. Either they have fixed it or hidden it better, but it seamed to be some sort of security patch at an app level. Here are a couple of old threads including my Google thread and a couple of reddit threads. I still have an open support case on it, but since it stopped happening and different folks at Google kept ignoring my replies to the man suggesting stupid-a$$ things (like factory resetting my devices and signing off and on with a new user on different devices) I just dropped it.
P.S. I never did notice the plugged in thing, but that is not to say it wasn't happening. I was asleep when it happened as far as I know.
https://productforums.google.com/fo...rce=footer#!msg/play/Pgzokc69Qt8/9V1n27ONBwAJ
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
Found this, too, but it's from 2013: https://arstechnica.com/information...ng-android-apps-possibly-including-facebooks/
sliding_billy said:
I almost don't want to even bring this issue back up since I haven't noticed it in a couple of months. I was noticing it a lot on all 6 of my devices (including Pixel 3XL and Pixel 3) because I would go to Titanium Backup and see apps showing as due for backup of a new version. Nothing showed in Play Store, and the App description on Play showed the same version as before with the old last updated date. Either they have fixed it or hidden it better, but it seamed to be some sort of security patch at an app level. Here are a couple of old threads including my Google thread and a couple of reddit threads. I still have an open support case on it, but since it stopped happening and different folks at Google kept ignoring my replies to the man suggesting stupid-a$$ things (like factory resetting my devices and signing off and on with a new user on different devices) I just dropped it.
P.S. I never did notice the plugged in thing, but that is not to say it wasn't happening. I was asleep when it happened as far as I know.
https://productforums.google.com/fo...rce=footer#!msg/play/Pgzokc69Qt8/9V1n27ONBwAJ
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co...lently_updating_some_apps_even_when/?sort=new
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fury683 said:
Found this, too, but it's from 2013: https://arstechnica.com/information...ng-android-apps-possibly-including-facebooks/
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Many thanks for the links. This is exactly what I am seeing. One of the posts in the link described the install as exact same apk and version. It is also what I see. It still does not explain what is going on behind the scenes, but at least it is good to know that I am not the only one seeing this. For most people, they are not aware. I see it because I use a backup app for newly installed apps. As such, everytime an app installed or updated, I get a notification.
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Many thanks for the links. This is exactly what I am seeing. One of the posts in the link described the install as exact same apk and version. It is also what I see. It still does not explain what is going on behind the scenes, but at least it is good to know that I am not the only one seeing this. For most people, they are not aware. I see it because I use a backup app for newly installed apps. As such, everytime an app installed or updated, I get a notification.
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No problem. I do wonder if your devices are new. As I mentioned, I have not seen this behavior in months on any of my devices. I do think it was an in place Google side security patch to the actual app installer or something that they can control from Play without modifying the app code itself, and if yours have not been modified yet it will catch up when it finishes all of the apps that need it.
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No problem. I do wonder if your devices are new. As I mentioned, I have not seen this behavior in months on any of my devices. I do think it was an in place Google side security patch to the actual app installer or something that they can control from Play without modifying the app code itself, and if yours have not been modified yet it will catch up when it finishes all of the apps that need it.
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Both of my devices were pre-order (from last year) and were activated as soon as I received them. Some of the newer apps that were updated this way were newer, like Pixel Tips and Data Transfer Tool. Apps like SmartThings, Lutron, and Pushover were recently updated normally through Playstore, but they were ghost updated a few days ago. If the theory were true, on these basis, it is unclear why Google would need to/want to update/re-update the apps this way.
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Both of my devices were pre-order (from last year) and were activated as soon as I received them. Some of the newer apps that were updated this way were newer, like Pixel Tips and Data Transfer Tool. Apps like SmartThings, Lutron, and Pushover were recently updated normally through Playstore, but they were ghost updated a few days ago. If the theory were true, on these basis, it is unclear why Google would need to/want to update/re-update the apps this way.
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Well the fact that your devices are a hair older than mine (I got my 3XL and 3 very shortly after public release) does quash that argument. The one thing I can think of that is still different is the detection method each of us has used. TB has been updated a few times in the past couple of months to start, and even if not Google could still be making changes that are not seen by TB. What backup app/notification process are you using?
Are these all Google apps or services? Many of them update outside of the app store on their own.
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Are these all Google apps or services? Many of them update outside of the app store on their own.
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No, it has happened to plenty of 3rd party apps both root apps and not.
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Well the fact that your devices are a hair older than mine (I got my 3XL and 3 very shortly after public release) does quash that argument. The one thing I can think of that is still different is the detection method each of us has used. TB has been updated a few times in the past couple of months to start, and even if not Google could still be making changes that are not seen by TB. What backup app/notification process are you using?
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Two apps I use that tells me when an app was installed/updated:
App Monster Pro ** "old version" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.think_android.apps.appmonster.cloud
The current PS version, based on reviews, does not do what the old version does. The old version, which I continue to use, and works well, will make a backup of the installed apk any time an app is updated or installed. I can decide the number of revisions to keep. This allows me to roll back if I need to. The most helpful part, as it turns out, is knowing when an app is updated--even Playstore or other non-Playstore-installed apps will spawn a notification. The backup is in a plain apk, which makes it easy to transport and share.
The other tool is My Android Tools Pro -- https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-android-toolspro-one-fav-apps-t3262150
This app allows me to cut off broadcast receivers, disable services, manifest apk activities and content providers. It also includes a logcat viewer, process explorers, and more. Root is required. This app refined over time but was taken off of the Playstore. It does not appear to be maintained anymore, but still works well. I sort the app list based on newly installed apps and it clearly shows me what was truly and recently installed. I use the app to cut off broadcast receivers and services that relate to app measurement, install referrer, etc. For some apps, I cut off the startup receiver. They help to keep occasionally used apps from launching needlessly. Other may have opinions, but these methods work well for me.
Lastly, I used Root Explorer to verify the app install dates (per post 1).
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Are these all Google apps or services? Many of them update outside of the app store on their own.
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Adding to post #3, they are both Google and 3rd-party apps. The publisher of the app does not appear to matter.
snovvman said:
Two apps I use that tells me when an app was installed/updated:
App Monster Pro ** "old version" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.think_android.apps.appmonster.cloud
The current PS version, based on reviews, does not do what the old version does. The old version, which I continue to use, and works well, will make a backup of the installed apk any time an app is updated or installed. I can decide the number of revisions to keep. This allows me to roll back if I need to. The most helpful part, as it turns out, is knowing when an app is updated--even Playstore or other non-Playstore-installed apps will spawn a notification. The backup is in a plain apk, which makes it easy to transport and share.
The other tool is My Android Tools Pro -- https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-android-toolspro-one-fav-apps-t3262150
This app allows me to cut off broadcast receivers, disable services, manifest apk activities and content providers. It also includes a logcat viewer, process explorers, and more. Root is required. This app refined over time but was taken off of the Playstore. It does not appear to be maintained anymore, but still works well. I sort the app list based on newly installed apps and it clearly shows me what was truly and recently installed. I use the app to cut off broadcast receivers and services that relate to app measurement, install referrer, etc. For some apps, I cut off the startup receiver. They help to keep occasionally used apps from launching needlessly. Other may have opinions, but these methods work well for me.
Lastly, I used Root Explorer to verify the app install dates (per post 1).
Adding to post #3, they are both Google and 3rd-party apps. The publisher of the app does not appear to matter.
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Starting to look more and more like Google is still making changes in the background but it is not being detected by any current backup apps. Since the two you were using have either been deprecated or abandoned, it's hard to say if Google has actually changed what was being updated or just the possibility of detection. Short of someone getting into the app code for a hard comparison between pre/post versions (beyond my skill set for sure), my guess is this is going to go unanswered since Google is clearly still making changes but not releasing the "why" or "what."
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Starting to look more and more like Google is still making changes in the background but it is not being detected by any current backup apps. Since the two you were using have either been deprecated or abandoned, it's hard to say if Google has actually changed what was being updated or just the possibility of detection. Short of someone getting into the app code for a hard comparison between pre/post versions (beyond my skill set for sure), my guess is this is going to go unanswered since Google is clearly still making changes but not releasing the "why" or "what."
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I agree. What I can say with certainty is that those apps were at least "reinstalled" because of the folder/file dates. Also, my two phones are seeing the same apps being updated. This suggests that there are some logic behind it.
snovvman said:
I agree. What I can say with certainty is that those apps were at least "reinstalled" because of the folder/file dates. Also, my two phones are seeing the same apps being updated. This suggests that there are some logic behind it.
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Yeah, the "updates" my not have happened at the same time (or even the same day) but eventually the apps that are shared on various devices would end up modified for me as well.
FSTRIM?
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FSTRIM?
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I am not using the FSTRIM app, and the fact that eventually all of the same apps (6 devices on various Android versions) would end up getting updated but not all apps makes it unlikely that native trimming is causing it.