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[Q] XAP access

Does anyone know of a way to access or download a XAP downloaded from the Marketplace on to a device.
I was unable to find any XAP files in the Zune backup directories. Has anyone had any luck with this?
Thanks

If you put your phone in WiFi mode, you can use wireshark (possibly along with Cain and Abel) to sniff the connection when you are downloading it. That's what Hounsell did over in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820455&page=3

That feature was removed a couple of days ago when a website was linking people directly to the files of the zune marketplace. This was actually a feature for developers to use so they could share the app with other testers, but since it was abused it was removed. Also downloading the xap files is only half the battle you need to have a developer unlocked phone inorder to load the app and run it on your phone.

msanda_77 said:
Also downloading the xap files is only half the battle you need to have a developer unlocked phone inorder to load the app and run it on your phone.
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It's not a true (said SeNS just deployed application to the retail HTC Surround via "Application Deployment" tool).

sensboston said:
It's not a true (said SeNS just deployed application to the retail HTC Surround via "Application Deployment" tool).
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Do you have a link/how to..?

ajhvdb said:
Do you have a link/how to..?
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When you install WP7 bits, you will have a start menu folder called "Windows Phone Developer Tools". There are 3 programs listed: "Application Deployment", "Windows Phone 7 Emulator" and "Windows Phone Developer Registration". After registering your phone you be able to upload XAP even on retail device. At least I've tested recently arrived AT&T's HTС Surround.

sensboston said:
When you install WP7 bits, you will have a start menu folder called "Windows Phone Developer Tools". There are 3 programs listed: "Application Deployment", "Windows Phone 7 Emulator" and "Windows Phone Developer Registration". After registering your phone you be able to upload XAP even on retail device. At least I've tested recently arrived AT&T's HTС Surround.
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To register your phone, you'll need a WP Developer Account, so yes. You will need a developer-unlocked Phone
I think you're confused between a Developer Phone (ie, one that's pre-release for development purposes) and a Developer-unlocked Phone (one that's retail, but has been unlocked with a developer account so that it can run unsigned, non-marketplace code).

U mean the problem is in the $99 to become a developer? ;-) It's not a real problem, at least for that forum members, I think so...

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You posted in: Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking > Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking
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Woaw, glad it's in the correct forum now
So, there is no app to install a xap without going thru marketplace!?!

ajhvdb said:
Woaw, glad it's in the correct forum now
So, there is no app to install a xap without going thru marketplace!?!
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Not yet, but will be soon.
Making a first cleaning and analysis!
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This thread will be moved and / or closed.
You posted in: Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking > Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking
And the place would be: Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking > Windows Phone 7 General
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re: mmelo76
Merry Christmas to you too.

Tom XAP Author: Change request

(The original thread has too many pages, and would likely go unnoticed.)
We, in Chevron support land, keep receiving the same complaints over and over again re: Tom XAP Installer. Users are attempting to use Tom XAP Installer (v1.2) to deploy interop-required XAPs and they're receiving the misleading error message:
- Please Make sure your phone was unlocked!
- Please Make sure you connected device to PC and Zune lauched
Try again ?
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We'd appreciate if you added code to detect 0x81030120 and show a proper error message. It should say something like:
Your phone is not "interop unlocked", which this XAP requires [...] Check out this thread on XDA for more information.
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Thanks.

Why not just tell people to use the official MS deployment tool?

I always use the Ms original tool , or a private one from one here at xda.

ceesheim said:
I always use the Ms original tool , or a private one from one here at xda.
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which one do you use. Actually those who wants to sideload should have a few xap installer apps in their pc then they will know whether it's the chevron unlock or their installer that has a problem>I know that installer has some pros and cons.

Ttblondey said:
which one do you use. Actually those who wants to sideload should have a few xap installer apps in their pc then they will know whether it's the chevron unlock or their installer that has a problem>I know that installer has some pros and cons.
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I use the MS one and a closed beta from ultrashot (ultrashot one isn't online and maybe never will so don't ask him, if he wants to release he will )
no the problem is @ tom xap sideloader , and I didn't see him here for a long time @ the wp forums

[Q] Toolkit v7.8.0 works in Windows 8?

The Toolkit v7.8.0 works with the Windows 8 Final Version? 9200.16384.WIN8_RTM.120725-1247_X64FRE_ENTERPRISE_EVAL_EN-US-HRM_CENA_X64FREE_EN-US_DV5.iso ?

How about lets just not use toolkits .

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The Toolkit v7.8.0 works with the Windows 8 Final Version? 9200.16384.WIN8_RTM.120725-1247_X64FRE_ENTERPRISE_EVAL_EN-US-HRM_CENA_X64FREE_EN-US_DV5.iso ?
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if it works on windows 7 it will work on windows 8 if the drivers are installed correctly

People are still using toolkits. BTW...don't download pirated software. I can tell by the file name tsk tsk tsk... (unless you're a dreamspark student...then I take that back)
To answer your question, anything that works on 7 will work on 8 for the most part.

This is not pirate -> 9200.16384.WIN8_RTM.120725-1247_X64FRE_ENTERPRISE_EVAL_EN-US-HRM_CENA_X64FREE_EN-US_DV5.iso
Downloaded from microsoft oficial website

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This is not pirate -> 9200.16384.WIN8_RTM.120725-1247_X64FRE_ENTERPRISE_EVAL_EN-US-HRM_CENA_X64FREE_EN-US_DV5.iso
Downloaded from microsoft oficial website
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That's what I meant by the dreamspark student thing. I said if you dl'd it from the Microsoft site then I take it back
Good luck with it!

aooga said:
That's what I meant by the dreamspark student thing. I said if you dl'd it from the Microsoft site then I take it back
Good luck with it!
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That's a evaluation copy, I believe it will expire. Wait, does Microsoft give out evaluation copies?
Will the next nexus have a longer screen?

[Q] jailbreak rt 8.1,possible?

still wondering how to jailbreak rt 8.1,seems that cdb no more works..

A jailbreak for 8.1 isn't possible yet.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app that has now replied to millions of stupid questions

hjc4869 said:
still wondering how to jailbreak rt 8.1,seems that cdb no more works..
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*sigh*. Use search, or even just open your eyes and read through the development and hacking section which is basically full of this single statement: "8.1 does not have a jailbreak yet"

SixSixSevenSeven said:
*sigh*. Use search, or even just open your eyes and read through the development and hacking section which is basically full of this single statement: "8.1 does not have a jailbreak yet"
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Making a jailbreak is a complicated task. I'm working on it...
Melissa

surface rt 8.1 jailbreak
Myriachan said:
Making a jailbreak is a complicated task. I'm working on it...
Melissa
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hello my name is mike clery I was wondering any info on a 8.1 jailbreak I really want to install legacy apps on my surface rt so if you can tell me anything its December 26 and still no info on it

Dude. Don't pester the devs. Don't post questions that have already been asked and answered over and over again. Don't, ever, ask for ETAs or similar concerning hacks like this. Leaving aside the simple fact that it's impossible to predict anything of that nature (and thus asking is simply useless and annoying spam), people on here are volunteers doing this stuff in our own time. You are not our boss, to ask for regular status reports or some such thing. It'll be posted when it's ready. No point asking for anything else.
There has been plenty of discussion regarding an 8.1 jailbreak. I get that you're new, but time was, new members of a community had the courtesy to observe, and emulate, the behavior of the older members of the community. At a minimum, check the forum rules... the very first of which is: Search before posting!

cameyo ? work with jailbreakoen surface rt ????
Have you guys heard about cameyo ?????
Its pre pacakge apps taht dont need to be installed to run.
download them and run them, wonder if we be able to use those apps after the RT is jailbroken? any idea ?
search for online . cameyo . com / public - (no spaces)
here is the link to hugh list of apps that can be downloaded as n exe file and run on any PC, offcourse not on rt . i tried. Anyone with a 8.0 surface RT jailbroken devce, wanna try and let us know if they are working ?

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Have you guys heard about cameyo ?????
Its pre pacakge apps taht dont need to be installed to run.
download them and run them, wonder if we be able to use those apps after the RT is jailbroken? any idea ?
search for online . cameyo . com / public - (no spaces)
here is the link to hugh list of apps that can be downloaded as n exe file and run on any PC, offcourse not on rt . i tried. Anyone with a 8.0 surface RT jailbroken devce, wanna try and let us know if they are working ?
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Nope. Cameyo is for x86 not ARM and would need porting, as it is not open source that is not possible.

Possible alternitve?
Is is possible to just get a developer license on an rt device and then use your own signing certificate to sign some application (like audacity) then import the certificate into the trusted root authority list using certmgr.msc? If that worked then we could get something going that would work with few risk of problems. Also for anyone else who might find this useful, you can download a windows rt debugger and it has a built In kernel debugger (maybe could be used to jailbreak???).

... And we come full circle. @johndc7, thanks for your suggestion but did you really think that wasn't among the very first things we tried?
The requirement isn't that the binaries are signed. It's that they're signed by Microsoft. Your suggestion does actually work if the tablet is in Testsigning mode - which means, basically, treat any trusted signature as if it's a MS signature - but putting the tablet in Testsigning mode requires editing the BCD (Boot Configuration Database) and the SecureBoot feature prevents any modification to the SecureBoot flag in the BCD. We even have tried complex steps like exporting the BCD, enabling Testsigning on it, marking it read-only, and re-importing it. No dice. Feel free to experiment more yourself, though...
Oh, and as for kernel debug, that's definitely another way to disable the signature enforcement... and it's just as unusable as your last suggestion. Secure Boot blocks the Debug flags in the BCD. You don't need any special software to perform kernel debugging of RT - any build of kdb or windbg from the last few years can do it - but you do need to be able to put the tablet in debug mode to begin with. Again, if you find a way to do *that*, then that would be very valuable.

Another idea........
Hopefully this is something that is actually somewhat realistic..... I have been wanting to run audacity (mainly) on windows rt. Does anyone know if it would be possible to recompile it to run full screen in metro? Even though this method isn't really ideal, it would be something to temporally use instead of having nothing until somebody finds a better way of doing it. I understand that it probably wouldn't be able to be released to the windows store but a developer license could be installed to run it.

Well, at a bare minimum, you would need to re-write the entire UI. Metro apps don't (can't) use the standard Windows GUI frameworks, so any graphical app that isn't completely DirectX-based (which is to say, pretty much anything except games and command-line apps) will need to have their interface re-written.
Then there's the issue of things like getting it to work within the sandbox (you can largely work around the API restrictions, but the privileges issue is a problem) and, unless it is already possible to compile it under modern versions of Visual Studio (a lot of open-source software isn't), you would need to fix it for MSVC compatibility too.
Short version: Not practically.

Possible Alternative
I did find a folder on my RT device called "CodeIntegrity". The path is "C:/Windows/System32/CodeIntegrity". It contains drivers and stl files that I assume prevent the use of unsigned exes. Permissions that are not normally granted on the Surface are needed to disable the files, but if we could somehow do it maybe it would solve the problem?

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The requirement isn't that the binaries are signed. It's that they're signed by Microsoft.
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Not exactly. They can be signed by any certificate listed in the kek or db and not listed in the dbx. So microsoft (though there are different signatures in rt 8.0 and rt 8.1) and the OEM, and any third party that made drivers that are used on the platform (at least in general). But those are just technical details and don't help find a solution all that much.

Windows 10 obile SDK/ADK/WDK Archives, Mirrors, Install files for Visual Studio

I used to have some SDKs and even a WDK for Windows 10 (Including Windows 10 Mobile). After recently installing Visual Studio 2015/2017 and building up libraries tools etc. one install after another I was able to acquire SDKs, ADKs and WDKs for Windows Phone 7, WP 8.0 and WP 8.1....but when I got started on installing or trying to install Windows 10 (Including Win10m) I realized none of the downloads on M$'s servers/webpages contain the Windows 10 Mobile portion of the installations, after doing a quick google search it appears Microsoft removed Win10m development feaures from their product downloads as far back as 2017?? Has it really been that long...? Wow.... I know I can't have been the only one to download these dev kits while they were available, can anybody provide a backup link or archive link to a cloud based service to share for those of us that still wish to continue to build Win10m source files and mess around with creating our own (UWP or not) Win10m software??
Thanks very much guys