Quick Root Question for a T-Mobile(uk) Hero - Hero, G2 Touch Android Development

Hi Guys,
I am eager to try the 2.1 for my Hero which has had some 3G issues due to T-Mobile Network issue which still has no sign of being fixed.
Anyhow, my question is, if I made gold card and rooted my Stock Hero to a rooted 2.1 version, when the official one is finally released, can I go back to a stock 2.1 again?
Really want to try out the 2.1 but well over another month it seems to go on T-mobile.

yes
Yes, but it will prob unroot it,

Hi, If you root and install a custom 2.1 rom, when you update to the official t-mobile ROM, you WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ROOT AGAIN.
So be careful as custom roms often get things (just like the 2.1) a lot earlier than official upgrades. Especially from t-mobile as they seem to take ages before releasing them . Hope this helps.

twiztedvvv said:
Hi, If you root and install a custom 2.1 rom, when you update to the official t-mobile ROM, you WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ROOT AGAIN.
So be careful as custom roms often get things (just like the 2.1) a lot earlier than official upgrades. Especially from t-mobile as they seem to take ages before releasing them . Hope this helps.
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This is still assumed, the root access may still be there through the old methods. But we don't know until it is released. I would let someone else test it first.

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n00b questions about Froyo and root

With Sprint announcing that they will be releasing Froyo within the next week or so, I am wondering what that means for my phone since it is rooted and running a custom ROM (BakedSnackbeta9.7). Could someone give me a brief "It means that..." for me?
It means the devs will have better access to HTC's code, which in turn will help them with some of the issues plaguing current froyo rooted roms (lack of 4g etc.)
It means, just like with any other update, don't accept the OTA if you want to keep root. There will be a new root process eventually, but why chance it? Just like with 2.1, the rooted roms will be better than stock.
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and for now it means little as long as you dont take the OTA. I would expect to see the 2.1 rom devs moving to 2.2. I believe the Bakedpastries is the same dev as backedsnacks so you will likely see the 2.2 version replace the .1 version of the rom in the near future should you choose to flash it.

2.1 unrevoked-rooted tmo -> unchanged 2.2 HOW?

this is my second thread about this issue, and PLEASE don't answer if you don't know how i could do this. i DON'T want a rooted/modded whatsoever 2.2, just the update that came today.
i guess my best bet would be flashing a htc europe generic rom and get the OTA, but how do i do that?
If your phone is from a network provider then it will more than likely need rooting even if you just want to flash it with a generic HTC ROM.
If it was purchased SIM free then it should already have a generic ROM and it will just be a matter of time before you get the OTA update.
Have you tried manually chacking for an update on the phone?
maxupp said:
this is my second thread about this issue, and PLEASE don't answer if you don't know how i could do this. i DON'T want a rooted/modded whatsoever 2.2, just the update that came today.
i guess my best bet would be flashing a htc europe generic rom and get the OTA, but how do i do that?
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Here's how
I'm Rooted and I still want the official update after reading the warning.
1) Make a goldcard using this guide (For Desire too)
2) Download this
3) Double click it and follow the instructions.
4) When the update is ready to be pushed out, you will get a notification.
(taken from the Official foyo update thread....please search or read before making threads like this)
Also consider looking at this
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/307683/howto-unroot-your-htc-desire/
BTW, if you do this you will not be able to unroot again untill a new root is found which could take weeks, or could never happen. You loose the ability to install custom roms, or non sense roms.
@ shetlander: it IS rooted, but i'm not able to flash generic, it simply doesn't work
@jedipottsy: i don't have a micro SD card available, but as i said, the phone IS rooted, so i there any way to do it without one? maybe a dump of a generic firmware instead of a ruu.exe?
edit: i forgot to mention, i had a leaked 2.2 build flashed before, but then flashed back to t-mobile rom. what doesn't work ist the flash to htc europe generic
maxupp said:
@ shetlander: it IS rooted, but i'm not able to flash generic, it simply doesn't work
@jedipottsy: i don't have a micro SD card available, but as i said, the phone IS rooted, so i there any way to do it without one? maybe a dump of a generic firmware instead of a ruu.exe?
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nope, need an sdcard, can't flash an official over an unofficial, you need sd to restore to an older official.
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nope, need an sdcard, can't flash an official over an unofficial, you need sd to restore to an older official.
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well i was able to got to a defrost build and back to stock without goldcard, i don't see why a htc generic can't function (
cant see the advantage of using the official, you loose too much for little gain
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741663 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741755
there is full 2.2 with extras, or plain with root, much easier to install and you dont loose root
thx jedi, i am actually flahshing the thingy with busybox(whatever that does), there's no way i'm gonna miss teeter ^^
maxupp said:
this is my second thread about this issue, and PLEASE don't answer if you don't know how i could do this. i DON'T want a rooted/modded whatsoever 2.2, just the update that came today.
i guess my best bet would be flashing a htc europe generic rom and get the OTA, but how do i do that?
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Download this rom:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.zip
change the name to PB99IMG and put it on your gold card, boot into recovery and select fastboot, it will install the generic 1.21 rom, then when you check for updates the froyo update will be there, btw doing this wipes everything on your phone. Worked for me although I didn't install the froyo update as I am scared of the bootloader.

[Q] Froyo 2.2 On a USCelular based HTC Desire

You probably get these a lot and I'm sorry for reporting if you have. About 4 days I got an HTC Desire and I know it's only Running Android 2.1 (Eclaire). I've already rooted my phone and what not using the UNrevoked method, and right now it's in the process of loading the Cynagen mod (spell check?), It's been installed correctly, it just seems to be taking a while to load (off topic but is that normal), I Was wondering if there was any possible way to load Froyo onto via mod or and upcoming update. Any step in the right direction, Im new to Android but I do want to become affluent with them.
Alright I got it working, but now unfortunately I just don't think this mod is for me. Is there a way to revert back to the cell phones factory OS?
If you can find an official Cellular ROM you can flash it and revert to stock, unfortunately I don't think there is a leaked one.
I guess I could bring it into my provider and see if they can completely erase and reinstall the operating system, I found an Official Froyo Rom, but I'm having trouble installing it. I installed the radio correctly, but the Official Froyo itselfs keeps aborting.
Keeps saying its 'bad' idk maybe its a bad download but I got it off of XDA.
If you go with a modified software to your provider they may very well decide that your warranty is invalid now.
Can you give a link to the rom you say you've found.
3722 said:
If you go with a modified software to your provider they may very well decide that your warranty is invalid now.
Can you give a link to the rom you say you've found.
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This is thelike to the ROM to upgrade phone to Froyo 2.2, at this point i want to revert back to the to the stock OS, being supposebly Froyo 2.2 will be here for it in jan, but idk its been postponed 234 times now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
I cant help but feel like im not installing the radio correctly, its talking about using a rom manager but from what i've read ROM MAnager should do jut fine. Either that or Cyanogen isn't wanting it to go away.
Well i found a thread on there forums...
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/9270-stock-us-cellular-rom-request/ According the the posters its not COMPLETELY stock but its close enough. Hopefully Froyo will come soon (hopefully)
Right on the second one worked I might try to install that one on a later day.

Upcoming Update

If and when the Gingerbread update gets pushed out, how will us custom ROMmers be notified? Will we receive notifications asking us to download the update and then have to deny it? Will we have to unroot then upgrade? I wasn't around for the 2.2 update so I am a little curious as to how this all works on the Evo. Feel like such a noob right now but I really don't feel liking bricking my Evo due to an act of stupidity.
Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
You aren't going to need to do anything, other than NOT take the OTA. The only thing you will need to do is wait from 2-10 hours after the update is out in the wild for the devs to get their hands on it and give us a fully rooted build to flash. It does not take long around here. There is absolutely no need to unroot and take the OTA. Who knows, if you did that you may not even be able to root again. So basically all you're going to need to do for the update is wait for the devs, and then flash a rom as usual. Maybe some new radios or something too, who knows.
I'm more concerned about when they will push the damn update. *Supposedly* it's Q2, but I'd bet if that's true, it will be late Q2.
r916 said:
Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Sure, lots of people say "wait for a rooted version of the update," but all I want to know is, is it POSSIBLE to safely upgrade even if you are rooted? Would flashing the stock update remove ClockWork recovery?
yes i was rooted before 2.2 and i was having a crazy day, long story short i accepted the OTA not paying attention and it got me a weird reboot then i was unrooted and on 2.2 i had to wait for a root method for it. but i heard of some people having their phone glitch in crazy ways, also that first OTA sprint rolled out had a bug that was bricking some phones
RileyGrant said:
If and when the Gingerbread update gets pushed out, how will us custom ROMmers be notified? Will we receive notifications asking us to download the update and then have to deny it? Will we have to unroot then upgrade? I wasn't around for the 2.2 update so I am a little curious as to how this all works on the Evo. Feel like such a noob right now but I really don't feel liking bricking my Evo due to an act of stupidity.
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Developers will simply make new roms, and then you can flash the "update" of that rom. it'd be the same way of flashing CM7 nightlies.
Or just make sure you are s-off, take the update, install it. Then install SU from recovery and you are good to go. Thats the whole point of s-off (other than flashing PRI, NV, and Radios of course)
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If you rooted with Unrevoked and have Unrevoked Forever, then theoretically you should be able to flash the update and still be s-off to flash a rooted rom over the update. You'd have to push the custom recovery back onto the phone, though. However, I wouldn't be the guinea pig for the theory myself. I'd keep 2.2 until a rooted 2.3 rom is available and then flash that. No one knows what will happen if you flash the OTA update as no one has is or knows what's inside of it.
Once it starts being pushed out, it will just be a matter of time before some posts a thread either:
a) crying because the update broke their root.
b) gloating because the update did NOT break their root.
Basically, don't accept it. Play it safe and wait. We've been on 2.2 for well over half a year, so 1 more day isn't going to kill anyone.
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To make it simple, the result of accepting the OTA would either:
A- luckily do nothing
B- "Break" your phone and not be able to re-root
r916 said:
Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
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You are correct!
Theoretical question... If you're on a custom non-stock ROM (Myn or CM or whatever) and you accept the OTA, what would happen to the ROM? I don't think it would revert you back to the stock ROM because that ROM isn't on your phone anymore. I can't imagine CM would continue to work since it's not Sense. Would a Sense-based ROM (assuming you reinstalled all the Sprint bloatware) continue working with all the customizations even though you don't have root any more? Or does the OTA rewrite the entire ROM? Or would you just screw up your phone unpredictably?
I'm certainly not going to try this myself, but I'm curious as to what would happen.
phsteve said:
Theoretical question... If you're on a custom non-stock ROM (Myn or CM or whatever) and you accept the OTA, what would happen to the ROM? I don't think it would revert you back to the stock ROM because that ROM isn't on your phone anymore. I can't imagine CM would continue to work since it's not Sense. Would a Sense-based ROM (assuming you reinstalled all the Sprint bloatware) continue working with all the customizations even though you don't have root any more? Or does the OTA rewrite the entire ROM? Or would you just screw up your phone unpredictably?
I'm certainly not going to try this myself, but I'm curious as to what would happen.
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The OTA update would include the new stock 2.3 rom in it. It would wipe whatever you have on your phone (regardless of whether it is Sense or not) and install the OEM Sprint 2.3-based rom that all will eventually be on all new Evos when HTC ships them out.

[Q] GPS Problem after in-store gingerbread 2.3.4 upgrade

I recently received the Gingerbread 2.3.4 update on my T-Mobile G2 at my local T-Mobile store via SD card. As far as I can tell, everything is fine except for the GPS problem with not able to lock on. From what I can tell from reading other threads, it is similar to the problem people are having after first flashing CM7.
A little background: I am a complete noob when it comes to tinkering with my phone (taking screenshots with it was probably the most adventurous thing I've done to date). I don't really have a need to root my phone, but I haven't been able to find any threads that deal with the GPS issue with an unrooted phone. So if I have to root it to fix it, I guess I will, but I really don't want to go through with it unless I have to.
QUESTIONS:
- Is anyone else experiencing the GPS issue with an unrooted G2 or Desire Z?
- Other than calling up T-Mobile, is rooting the only way to fix the GPS issue? If so, will a temp root suffice, or will it have to be a perm root?
- If the temp root will do the trick, is there a need to downgrade to stock Froyo like you would for a perm root?
Thank you in advance for your help!
As far as I know, getting the 2.3 OTA update or getting the Gingerbread update from T-Mobile will lock your phone for permanent rooting. And you can't downgrade to Froyo 2.2.
It looks like you will have to wait until someon have invented a new hack or metode to root G2 with gingerbread installed.
Or just do a factory reset. I don't think they will have a bug in the new gingerbread update, the problem may be in the software in your phone.. you have to much garbage installed on it ... just do a hard reset,, if it doesn't work you and you want your old Froyo than you have to wait until someone hacks gingerbread for rooting ..
My Desire Z is seemingly having problems connecting after the OTA Gingerbread update. I didn't fully test it, cause I only tried it once after the update, when I was navigating to a place (and so, maybe not having a problem). But that once was unusually slow. I'm adding it to my list of problems to tell the service center! BTW, I can root my Gingerbread DZ, right?
G2 GPS not aquiring signal never rooted
boyfrom75 said:
As far as I know, getting the 2.3 OTA update or getting the Gingerbread update from T-Mobile will lock your phone for permanent rooting. And you can't downgrade to Froyo 2.2.
It looks like you will have to wait until someon have invented a new hack or metode to root G2 with gingerbread installed.
Or just do a factory reset. I don't think they will have a bug in the new gingerbread update, the problem may be in the software in your phone.. you have to much garbage installed on it ... just do a hard reset,, if it doesn't work you and you want your old Froyo than you have to wait until someone hacks gingerbread for rooting ..
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I am also having this problem. I purchased the phone and i think the OTA update was already installed.
I did a hard reset but it did not correct the problem ( it will not lock onto a sat)
Is there a work around yet? (hack for gingerbread rooting?)
here is my specs:
T-Mobile g2
Android Ver 2.3.4
Base band ver: 12.62.60.27u_26.13.04.19_m
kernel ver: 2.6.35.10-g96de068
[email protected] 18-2#1
Build:2.16.531.5 cl159515 release keys
Anyone help me as I cannot get GPS to work
I am a noob but did successfully root my old g1
You can downgrade stock Gingerbread then root, then install custom ROM using this guide
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TMobile_G2:_Rooting
This is basically THE guide if you're on stock.
Did this on my phone 2 weeks ago from stock Gingerbread OTA and now running ISC (Icecream JIBwich 1.2 port) happily with GPS works flawlessly.
Fasterfix app works, too. I'm running andromadus 12 and the latest tmobile radio. I upgraded radios when using mexdroid and that made gps lock perfect. But when I switched roms fasterfix got me the 2 sec lock I was looking for.
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I took mine in for an in-store, unrooted and my entire screen stopped working. Had to get me a new phone. Seems like the in-store updates aren't so great?
Sent from my CM7 G2!

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